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Title: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 09:49:06 am
Anyone got/had one of these http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/RadioControl/viewProduct.php?ProdID=1836 (http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/RadioControl/viewProduct.php?ProdID=1836)?
For £25 they are either cheapo crap or good fun (whilst waiting for the rigger cells to charge up again  %))

Rich


(http://www.howesmodels.co.uk/admin/products/fTs69Gi1/sp.jpg)
Photo added - Martin
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: tigertiger on January 21, 2009, 10:04:17 am
I don't think thye would be too quick with 380 motor, not as quick as the hull would suggest. I would assume that is why the price has been slashed, coz they didn't sell.

Having said that, for 25 pounds you can have a lot of fun. I have seem people just put in a higher voltage battery and a big boost in performance. You could also put in better motors for not much cash.

For 25 quid, I don't think you can go wrong really. It could turn into a nice boat for a knock about, or a rescue boat.
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 10:33:00 am
Thanks for adding the piccie Martin...I forgot! (A classic Homer moment...Doh!!!)

TT...I guess you're right, I did wonder about the 380 motor being man enough. I wonder if it's feasible to squeeze a half decent 540 in there? As you say, could be a bit of fun at the other lake...I don't think the rigger would be welcomed there!

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 11:10:49 am
Just read in the little flyer that Howes send out with anything you buy from them that the boat is fitted with TWO 380 motors and not one...that puts a different light on the matter. Could be one for pay day... ;)

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 21, 2009, 11:12:19 am
I've got a video clip of one running on the local lake if you would to see it...... not very impressive straight out of the box....  :((
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: DickyD on January 21, 2009, 11:13:06 am
Hi Rich

Dont forget to do a distance check on the radio before you use it. ok2
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 11:30:09 am
I've got a video clip of one running on the local lake if you would to see it...... not very impressive straight out of the box....  :((

Yes please Martin...could be interesting to see.

Hi Rich

Dont forget to do a distance check on the radio before you use it. ok2

Good thinking DickyD...the lake is only small, no more than fifty yards across from shore to island, so it SHOULD just about get that far! I haven't really decided on buying one yet, just sort of mulling things over...maybe even get one of these (minus that awful looking top bit)
(pic attached this time, Martin!) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140294057269&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=004 (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=140294057269&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=004) It's just something to go play with on a Sunday afternoon when the 'rigger is off duty.

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 21, 2009, 12:37:26 pm
Sorry, I lied, I don't have a video clip......  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 12:49:52 pm
Hmm...thanks for the piccies, Martin. It looks kind of quick with all that spray being thrown about, but as you said, it's probably not that quick. Mind you, with my reactions as they are now (old age and all that sort of thing...  :D) it's probably quick enough!

(thinks to oneself...how the hell am I going to control the 'rigger....?)

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 21, 2009, 04:01:34 pm
Look at the running pictures again, notice how quickly the wash has settled down behind the boat.
Compare it with.....
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 04:09:41 pm
Ah...you want wash n' spray? I can give you wash n' spray....

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: andyn on January 21, 2009, 04:11:17 pm
they are cheapo crap

However if you gave one to me or let me tell you what to get for it, it would soon become a bit faster %)
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: Bill D203 on January 21, 2009, 04:27:35 pm
Rich
Don't waste even £20.00 on the RTR Bud hydro. What they don't tell you if someone with a radio on 40MHz or 27MHz turns there set on which covers most boater it will not work. The ONLY way forwards with that RTR boat is to strip out the Radio/ Motors etc. Refit it with a real RC unit, Speed controller, Rudder, and a good battery.  By which time you could have got yourself a proper boat. IN Short what a pile of S**T!  Every week someone who dose not know about RC boating turns up at our lake with one of them RTR units. We always turn off all of or Rx's so they have a run. The funny thing is we never see them again. I hope I have made my point.
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 04:40:30 pm
Point made...taken...and observed Bill, thanks very much. I did wonder about one of them, just wanted something quick to build and use for those days when it's not 'rigger weather or I'm just going down the pond with a couple of the lads for a bit of fun boating. I guess I'll go take a sniff round good old eyab and see if I can pick up a small hull going cheap, only want something for a 540 and eight cells max.

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 04:41:50 pm
they are cheapo crap

However if you gave one to me or let me tell you what to get for it, it would soon become a bit faster %)

Can you fit a chainsaw motor in there then Andy? %%


Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: Bill D203 on January 21, 2009, 05:26:07 pm
Andy.
Post a Pic of my Bat boat. Ta . My wife brough a RTR Bat boat home for me. I took it for a trip down to the lake ONCE. then i parked it in my Loft.  I needed a boat to do the night sail at Llanberis last year. I put a 540 motor on a gearbox in it with a 40MHz radio and rudder. At Llanberis I striped the gears?? When I got it home I took the top off the boat and fitted a 12 volt car Rad cooling fan motor with a 75mm prop on it. Now I am the 1st to admit it's not going the beak any speed records, but it runs for 45 Min's on a fully charged battery.  I get bored with it and often pass the radio on to others down the lake. It's a good boat now to learn to drive a RC.
Try this link        boat.http://picasaweb.google.com/SMBC11/StevenageModelBoatClub02?feat=directli
One of these fine days I going to get another and fit a glow plug in one just for the hell of it.
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: andyn on January 21, 2009, 05:37:33 pm
Possibly not unfortunately, although a Rossi 21 would go well with a bit of hull strengthening :-))

Bill's modified bat boat - also on the club website ok2

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/DSCN3500.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/DSCN3504.jpg)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/DSCN3501.jpg)
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 05:54:30 pm
Nice looking vessel...but I thought a bat boat was a strange looking thing American thing with wing like objects at the stern? Or am barking up the wrong tree...?

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: andyn on January 21, 2009, 06:01:24 pm
It is, if you look at the third photo closely you can see them, it's just that Bill's weighs a lot extra than the standard one, with a fan motor in the front and about 14 cells...
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: andyn on January 21, 2009, 06:04:48 pm
Bat Boats doing what they do best - flying...

(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/prod031.gif)
(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/andyn_01/BatBoatMark.jpg)
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: Bill D203 on January 21, 2009, 06:10:07 pm
Cheers Andy
She what I mean Rich. It's all made of junk bit out of my shed. All I paid for was the speed controller I all ready had the radio kit and cells.
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 06:43:26 pm
Those bat things look frightening! I've had a good old sniff round on the 'net and found the MFA Piranha2, that looks like a quick and easy build to keep me on the water until the 'rigger is sorted out. What do you think of the Piranha2...any good?

Rich


(told you there'd be loads of questions...)  O0

Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: Bill D203 on January 21, 2009, 07:13:48 pm
Yes Rich they are OK. Have you seen the Club 500 by model slipway?  I think all you need to complete the kit is a Radio set up and battery. Again the speed will not kill you but they are a dam fine starter boat for all ages. There is a Club 500 section here on Mayhem have a look at it. There is some good stuff on how to build it etc.http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=2272.0
try this link to club 500
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: andyn on January 21, 2009, 07:18:47 pm
One I have found good is the ZigZag racer by Hobbyzone, RTR BUT uses proper crystals. Barry over at Mainly Models does them for £25

Before Bill says anything mine doesn't work anymore because... well.... I kind of filled it with water by hitting a rather large submerged log. Then got even more water in it due to the rescue attempt. But we won't go into that...

Doesn't have a proper servo however, just a motor with some gearing, but appears to be perfectly functionable
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 07:23:14 pm
Seen those Bill, thanks very much...I'd prefer fibreglass, both our ponds are concrete edged and if I'm going to hit that I'd rather do it with f/glass than styrene! And I will hit it...I rammed the wall at Princes Park once years ago with my ancient MRH/Merlotti Silak .61 at full bore, shorted the hull by an inch, shot the motor out of the mounts and chipped the concrete!
They don't build 'em like that any more!

Hopefully the 'rigger will be here at the weekend and give me something to do, but meanwhile I feel a trip to Deal coming on. It's not THAT far from Hastings landfill site, and it is council diesel after all.. O0

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 07:24:27 pm
One I have found good is the ZigZag racer by Hobbyzone, RTR BUT uses proper crystals. Barry over at Mainly Models does them for £25

Before Bill says anything mine doesn't work anymore because... well.... I kind of filled it with water by hitting a rather large submerged log. Then got even more water in it due to the rescue attempt. But we won't go into that...

Doesn't have a proper servo however, just a motor with some gearing, but appears to be perfectly functionable

Never heard of that one Andy...do you have a link to it by any chance?

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 21, 2009, 07:25:22 pm
Those bat things look frightening! I've had a good old sniff round on the 'net and found the MFA Piranha2, that looks like a quick and easy build to keep me on the water until the 'rigger is sorted out. What do you think of the Piranha2...any good?
Rich

I built one of those ages ago...  http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/My_models/01%20piranha.htm (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/My_models/01%20piranha.htm)
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: andyn on January 21, 2009, 07:31:06 pm
I do indeed  :-)

This is the shiney new 3 version, I have the 2

This one has a proper esc too, the one I have was all on one board. It also has a proper servo. Having said this mine went like the clappers for a boat that's only 15" long, and turned almost on the spot.

Mine came with me to Germany in 2007 and had runs just about every day while I was there, and never missed a beat the whole 2 weeks.

http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_boats_hobbyzone_zig_zag_racer_3.htm (http://www.hobbyzone.com/rc_boats_hobbyzone_zig_zag_racer_3.htm)
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 07:34:29 pm
Martin...thanks for that, enjoyable reading.  :-))

Andy...thank you too for your link, I'll be away to have a look at that right away.  :-))

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: john54 on January 21, 2009, 07:45:57 pm
I was going to buy that rigger (when for sale on here) Then had big vets bill. Oh well first things first!
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: andyn on January 21, 2009, 07:56:42 pm
Then had big vets bill.

Didn't have your gonads taken off did you john?
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 08:08:04 pm
I was going to buy that rigger (when for sale on here) Then had big vets bill. Oh well first things first!

I apologise to you John, for beating you to it, I'm really looking forward to getting my hands on it and getting on the water, it's going so different to running a submarine (or I hope it will...) Sorry to hear about the vet bill too, that can get expensive. We had a bill for our African Grey of over £300 years ago, and that was just for five injections. I dread to think what it would be now.

Andy...I'm sorry sir, but that boat is about the ugliest thing I've seen in a long time, it looks like a beetle! Humble apologies (and bowing to your superior knowledge of all things that travel on the water rather than under it), but I really do think it's not my scene at all. I thank you anyway...(cap in hand, knuckling of forelock and waking backwards under the door....)

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: Bill D203 on January 21, 2009, 08:14:55 pm
I'm with you Rich.
Demented egg whisk. Or bumble bee on heat. take your pick.
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: andyn on January 21, 2009, 08:18:01 pm
I admit it ain't the prettiest of things, but a submarine is essentially a long hard tube full of seamen {-)

I believe when I sailed mine it was reffered to by everyone as a floating iron...
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: john54 on January 21, 2009, 08:20:37 pm
No but i had my 4th toe right foot removed last monday  >:-o but the dogs o.k now shame i cant walk him yet  :((
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 08:26:45 pm
I'm with you Rich.
Demented egg whisk. Or bumble bee on heat. take your pick.

A bumble bee on heat, eh? That's got to be one for Harry Hill...

I admit it ain't the prettiest of things, but a submarine is essentially a long hard tube full of seamen {-)

I believe when I sailed mine it was reffered to by everyone as a floating iron...

err...are we discussing the same things here? My subs are full of...oh, never mind, there's a mod about!

No but i had my 4th toe right foot removed last monday  >:-o but the dogs o.k now shame i cant walk him yet  :((

One word covers THAT...ouch!!

Rich
Title: Re: RTR boat...?
Post by: beerbelly on February 17, 2009, 05:00:48 pm
 whats the best RTR to get as an bigginner i.e make and models ?

 cheers wayne