Model Boat Mayhem

Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: mick on January 21, 2009, 10:42:19 am

Title: Here she is
Post by: mick on January 21, 2009, 10:42:19 am
 
Here SHE is!!! Made from the Remains of World Trade Centre!!!

USS New York

It was built with 24 tons of scrap steel from the  World  Trade  Center .

It is the fifth in a new class of warship - designed for missions that include special operations against terrorists. It will carry a crew of 360 sailors and 700 combat-ready Marines to be delivered ashore by helicopters and assault craft.

Steel from the  World  Trade  Center was melted down in a foundry in  Amite , LA to cast the ship's bow section. When it was poured into the molds on Sept 9, 2003, 'those big rough steelworkers treated it with total reverence,' recalled Navy Capt. Kevin Wensing, who was there. 'It was a spiritual moment for everybody there.'

Junior Chavers, foundry operations manager, said that when the trade center steel first arrived, he touched it with his hand and the 'hair on my neck stood up.' 'It had a big meaning to it for all of us,' he said. 'They knocked us down. They can't keep us down. We're going to be back.'
The ship's motto? 'Never Forget'
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: das boot on January 21, 2009, 11:24:42 am
I guess that could be termed as the ultimate in recycling...the guys that serve on the ship must be very proud of her and her heritage.

Rich
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Colin H on January 21, 2009, 04:17:14 pm
I don't often say this but WELL DONE the US of A.


Colin H.
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: nhp651 on January 21, 2009, 04:30:09 pm
She looks magnificent!
God bless her and all who sail in her. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: mb1387 on January 21, 2009, 04:51:47 pm
All I can say is ( cool)
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Roger in France on January 21, 2009, 05:49:37 pm
Relates very well to some of the President's speech yesterday.

May both she and he perform superbly.

Roger in france.
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Bryan Young on January 21, 2009, 05:50:31 pm
I think I may get myself into a bit of bother here. I appreciate the sentiment behind the use of steel from the Twin Towers.
But I think I am looking at a computer simulation of a ship about the size of a large(ish) destroyer. A ship that is supposed to carry 360 crew and 700 marines. (1060 people) plus aircraft and assault marine craft. Must be a bit cramped in there, especially when all the "kit" has to be stowed etc.etc.
I don't want to rain on your parade, but I do have reservations about what I am seeing and reading. BY.
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: andyn on January 21, 2009, 06:12:45 pm
It's not a CGI, it's real.
(http://www.geekologie.com/2008/02/11/uss-new-york.jpg)
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 21, 2009, 06:24:43 pm
It's a bit bigger than that Bryan. 684 feet long and displacing around 25,000 tons. See here: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/lpd-17.htm

Colin
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: John W E on January 21, 2009, 06:58:13 pm
hi there one and all

this is an interesting looking ship - has anyone any idea - why is there so much steel re-enforcement around the anchor hauses?

I havent seen many ships with re-enforcement like that on the hull side

aye
john
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Arrow5 on January 21, 2009, 07:53:31 pm
Is it re-enforcement or some sort of wave/sea/spray deflector ?
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on January 22, 2009, 12:21:07 am
 The ship is one of the San Antonio Class LPD.

At 1/96 scale, it comes out to 2.17 meters,...
not that I made any building studies of the San Antonio or anything like that  %)

Here is Jeff York's build up..
http://wmunderway.8m.com/gallery15/gallery15.htm
However, I heard that he restarted the build, because he felt he could do it better.
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Bunkerbarge on January 22, 2009, 03:06:57 am
hi there one and all

this is an interesting looking ship - has anyone any idea - why is there so much steel re-enforcement around the anchor hauses?

I havent seen many ships with re-enforcement like that on the hull side

aye
john


John, I'm not so sure about reinforcement but I suspect it is to keep the anchors and chains clear of the bulbous bow.
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 22, 2009, 09:52:51 am
I think Bunkerbarge is right there. Also there may be sonar equipment in the bulb.

Colin
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Bryan Young on January 22, 2009, 06:28:38 pm
Looks like I was wrong (again) about this ship. In mitigation I can only say that the original pic really did look like a smaller vessel. Should have known better I suppose.....the Yanks don't do "small" very often! Sorry, but the follow-ups are fascinating.
As far as the fairing around the hawse pipes is concerned.....don't a lot of the rig support ships have similar arrangements? BY.
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on January 22, 2009, 06:52:26 pm
Looking back at the first post, the interesting thing, really, is that the ship in that
first picture IS the San Antonio, LPD-17, not the New York.    %)
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: John W E on January 22, 2009, 07:29:42 pm
hi there all

After a bit of thought about the faring and its use against damaging the bulbous bow with the anchors / sonar equipment - it seems a bit strange because, when you think about all the other ships which have bulbous bows and sonars and soforth underneath the ship and they dont seem to have this flared arrangement on the bow...

the other thing to note is that the anchors are brought inboard of the ship and they seem to sit in a housing as Bryan says, offshore vessels, especially diving support vessels have a similar affair - however, their anchors are normally stored outboard  -  also, they tend to put either 2 or 4 anchors down at once to secure the ship and adjust the posiiton of the diving vessel by altering the length of the cable connecting the anchor.

Just another point - do we notice that the anchor housings are actually square and set flush with the side of the ship - with no lead for the cable or the chain as like on a normal anchor hawser where they point towards the bow and downover - food for thought though eh?    :-)

aye
john
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: mick on January 22, 2009, 11:18:15 pm
The photographs came in a group, so I posted the 17 by mistake....here is the 21 O0
Title: Re: Here she is
Post by: malcolmfrary on January 22, 2009, 11:58:36 pm
Those odd shapes might be something to do with stealth and not be reinforcement at all.  The rest of the ship has a very uncluttered appearance - an old-style anchor hawse might well be a huge radar reflector after the rest of the ship has had its reflection reduced.