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Title: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Seaspray on January 25, 2009, 01:42:23 pm
Is there anyway a marker pen can be made to last longer than a couple of weeks unused?

Every time I put one in the drawer for next time it is bone dry, even If its out in the workshed or in the kitchen.

Silly i know but it gets expensive after a while

Is there a way to bring them back from the dead so to speak ?

Ideas appreciated.

Seaspray
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: tigertiger on January 25, 2009, 01:44:21 pm
Hi Seaspray.

Mine seem to last well over a year.
Have you tried switching brand?

Dumb question, do you replace the lids?
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Roger in France on January 25, 2009, 01:47:17 pm
I find the tips dry out and are hard to revitalise. So, I try to store mine vertically, tip down.

Roger in France.
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: boatmadman on January 25, 2009, 01:47:45 pm
Store them tip downwards.

Ian
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Seaspray on January 25, 2009, 01:50:38 pm
I'll try tip down but was a bit apprehensive about them leaking, mind you saying that i may have tried that.

But is there any possible getting them to work again ?

TT what brand do you use, knowing the missus it is the cheapest ones possible.
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: tigertiger on January 25, 2009, 01:57:23 pm
Cheapest possible may be the problem.

If it is cheapest chinese rubbish then you get what you pay for. These are the cheap ones often found in supermarkets or down the market.

I have used pens a lot, any resonalbe brand is worth the extra money. And the good brands are better value, they do last longer. Or so I have found.

I have also found the good ones can be recovered if you accidentally leave the lid off. By placing the lid back on, leave them tip down and leave for 24 hours.
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: omra85 on January 25, 2009, 02:14:22 pm
Edding and Nobo are good makes, steer clear of "own brands" as they dry up BEFORE you take the tops off  %)
Danny
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: andyn on January 25, 2009, 03:50:29 pm
It's all about the Sharpies :-))
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Martin [Admin] on January 25, 2009, 04:32:38 pm
To revitalise, try a drop or two of Meths!
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: The long Build on January 25, 2009, 04:41:10 pm
I use Pentel N50 , seem to work for ever, however they do have quite a strong addictive smell.  :}
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: tigertiger on January 25, 2009, 04:52:36 pm
I ahve a bunch of Pentel Sign pens I bought in 2000. Pulled on out fo the box last month. Stil works.  :D
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Seaspray on January 25, 2009, 06:02:53 pm
I got a Pentel Pen but its dry now but looks like it was a good age as the body with its dents and scratches say so.

To revitalise, try a drop or two of Meths! says Martin now you know i don't drink but I'll try it on the pen. l.o.l.

Cheers for your input again ..to the shops

Seaspray
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Proteus on January 25, 2009, 06:04:18 pm
I use these , not cheap but they tend to last ages as long as you don't dip them in oil and will stay on glass metal etc  Oh and wood

http://www.staedtler.co.uk/Lumocolor_permanent_special_gb.Staedtler


Proteus
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Seaspray on January 25, 2009, 06:16:56 pm
cheers again
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: PT Sideshow on January 26, 2009, 11:23:57 am
If it is a an alcohol based maker, wiping with spirits or alcohol will remove the dried pigment on the tip. As Martin said some times and depending in the pigment used.

Making sure that the cap is snapped closed is the single most important thing before storing tip down.

Here is the global access site for a US brand with MSDS and other info and history.

http://www.sharpie.com/Default.aspx?locale=n (http://www.sharpie.com/Default.aspx?locale=n)
 :-)
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: funtimefrankie on January 26, 2009, 11:29:44 am
To revitalise, try a drop or two of Meths!
Works for me, when there's no Cains  bitter on hand :-))
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Seaspray on January 26, 2009, 01:27:20 pm
pack of 6 coming home.with the missus tonight


Seaspray
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Jimmy James on January 26, 2009, 03:01:29 pm
 :-)I've Got some Berol Toughpoint pens that are 2 or 3 years old and still going strong...When they runout, the plastic tube's make great funnels & if you cutout the felt tips. the black felt tip holder in the end makes a good funnel cap ( pry it 1 or 2mm out of the end of the tube.
Jimmy (Freebooter)
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Seaspray on January 26, 2009, 03:41:18 pm
Aye I keep all that type of stuff to.   :-))  :-)) Its like a Blue Peter Studio round here, if it wasn't for the missus.

But saying that the amount of times I've kept something for years and put it out to the dump, I could have used it the next day.

The old shed was bearable today, a bit milder has helped.
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: funtimefrankie on February 03, 2009, 10:46:00 am
I've a Berol white board marker, pinched from work 15 yrs ago still going strong.......
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: SteamboatPhil on February 03, 2009, 11:34:34 am
It has to be a "Sharpie" every time for me, quite a few colours now and they last forever   :-))
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Seaspray on February 03, 2009, 02:01:01 pm
Missus got a couple from work.  I found one in the 'lets put it here and I'll know where it is for the next time'. She bought a couple at shops the other days. so I am sorted. If I can only remember where they are when I need one. But them drying out on me I'll just have to live with.

Cheers lads



Seaspray
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: tigertiger on February 03, 2009, 02:06:09 pm
You do gets what you pays for.

Pentel
Berol
Steadtler
Sharpie
and others mentioned above last and last.

If your missus gives then to you gratis, then no issues. {-)
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: funtimefrankie on February 03, 2009, 05:28:02 pm
I've a Berol white board marker, pinched from work 15 yrs ago still going strong.......
Just used it outside in the shed still works fine in this cold weather (Its a permament marker, not a white board)
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: bogstandard on February 03, 2009, 06:42:02 pm
If you want REAL permanent, get yourself a paintpen, used for marking up metal or WHY.
I've had my white one for about 15 years, use it all the time, never dries up, and when I shake it, sounds like there is a few years in there yet.

http://www.seton.co.uk/setoneurope/catalog/0/20/100018-1%20200779-2%20302486-3.html

John
Title: Re: PERMANENT MARKER PENS
Post by: Jimmy James on February 23, 2009, 08:51:59 pm
Agreed, Felt tipped paint markers are great, Ships engineers use them for marking oily or greasy oil drums and spare parts   it dosen;t wash off or fade like the ink ones
Freebooter