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Title: planking
Post by: chromedome on September 28, 2006, 08:36:44 PM
can someone tell me the width of 1/96 scale planking please?

 chromedome
Title: Re: planking
Post by: DavieTait on September 28, 2006, 09:31:39 PM
1.5mm stock would be suitable to represent 6" wide deck planks. For 4" use 1mm. Very narrow and fiddly work , too fiddly for me lol

Davie
Title: Re: planking
Post by: RickF on September 28, 2006, 11:31:22 PM
I use 1/16" obechi for deck planks in 1:96 scale. I take about 12 at a time, lay them on black insulating tape, then separate them with a sharp blade. They can then be glued down, scrapped, sanded and varnished. Then, hey presto - caulked decks.

Rick
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ron h on September 28, 2006, 11:50:51 PM
I use 1/16" obechi for deck planks in 1:96 scale. I take about 12 at a time, lay them on black insulating tape, then separate them with a sharp blade. They can then be glued down, scrapped, sanded and varnished. Then, hey presto - caulked decks.

Rick


I think I have heard all this before. ;D ;D
Title: Re: planking
Post by: RickF on September 29, 2006, 12:19:18 AM
Maybe you have, but there might be someone out there that hasn't!
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ron h on September 29, 2006, 12:35:08 AM
rick f, where did you learn how to do that, I know where I did, I was not being sarcastic about your post , hence the grins
Title: Re: planking
Post by: RickF on September 29, 2006, 12:53:59 AM
That's OK Ron. Probably read it in one of Brian King's books.
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ambernblu on September 29, 2006, 06:34:48 AM
can someone tell me the width of 1/96 scale planking please?
chromedome

Simplest way to convert real inches to any scale is to first multiply by 25 (approx mm to an inch) then divide by the scale you are working in. This has to be simple 'cos I aint no mathematician!  :D

So as Davie says, a 6" wide real plank x 25 = 150mm divided by 96 (scale) = 1.56mm (yep too fiddly for me as well!!)

Cheers, Brian
Title: Re: planking
Post by: RickF on September 29, 2006, 09:24:06 AM
Why the need to convert from Imperial to metric, when all "modellling" wood - at least in my local shops - is sold in fractions of an inch?  One of the many (often useless) things fixed immovably in my mind is that 12 inches is 1/8" at 1:96 scale. So a six-inch plank is 1/16".

Rick
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ambernblu on September 29, 2006, 09:30:20 AM
Rick, I appreciate that, but 1/96th (1/8th scale) was only one specified suggested scale - the conversion works (thankfully  ;D ) on any and all measurements (not just for planks!) and for any and all scales you may conceivably be using - 1/144th, 1/167th, 1/3600th, 1/6789th et all....   ;D  ;D
Title: Re: planking
Post by: chromedome on September 29, 2006, 09:34:38 AM
thankyou all....what i was thinking of doing was to scribe lines with a scaple ,into humbrol 121 cream.I dont think i am good enough to plank a warship in 1/96 scale ...afraid of not getting it quite right.


   chromedome
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ambernblu on September 29, 2006, 09:45:51 AM

Chromedome, just what i was thinkin of doing... although you could also probably get some runny black into the lines if you wanted to and then either wipe it off or maybe dry brush across them with your cream.
Title: Re: planking
Post by: cbr900 on September 29, 2006, 12:35:15 PM
Can you not get a transfer or the signwriting shop to cut the strips on the computer...



Roy
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ron h on September 29, 2006, 01:05:24 PM
This is how I do it.
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ambernblu on September 29, 2006, 04:12:01 PM

Very nice Ron....!! :)
Title: Re: planking
Post by: RickF on September 29, 2006, 08:28:29 PM
Hi Ambernblu,

You are quite right, of course, but being a BOF who started modeling in the days of cubits, ells and rods, poles and perches I do tend to disregard any scale that is not easily divisible under Imperial measurements - 1:96, 1:72, 1:48 or 1:32. I have to confess though to a long association with 00 gauge railways at the unbelievable "illigitimate" scale of 4mm:1 foot!

As regards wooden decking, nothing that is painted and/or scribed looks as good as real wood in 1:96 or bigger.

Rick
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ambernblu on September 29, 2006, 09:25:10 PM
Rick

As for the decking in real wood, I can honestly say, yep, nothing can beat it for sheer authentic looks - and I would certainly applaud the skills of the modelmaker who can reproduce it in such small a scale! However, as much as I would love to have a go... its probably gonna have to await a future model - larger than 1/96th - before I attempt it - and I quite fancy the 1/48th Deans Medea or dare I say that huge Komet!

Not being a mathematician, my scale 'calculator' came in most handy when producing masters of actual warships - getting the 'balance' correct on a one inch long HMS Exeter was just as important to me - it had to look as near correct as I could make it before it went into the casting process and on sale to the public!  :o

I am also still a keen 4mm:1 foot (sorry -1/76th - OO gauge!) railway modeller - but will quite happily have N gauge (2mm: 1 foot) sheep chewing grass on a distant hillside topped with N gauge fir trees, if it suits the perspective I wish to achieve!  :D

Cheers, Brian
Title: Re: planking
Post by: chromedome on September 30, 2006, 12:17:20 PM
I never thought I would say this,but i wish I was "planker"!! ;)

 chromedome
Title: Re: planking
Post by: cbr900 on September 30, 2006, 12:23:02 PM
Chromedome,

I thought it was spelt with a W... ;D ;D



Roy
Title: Re: planking
Post by: barriew on October 02, 2006, 11:35:32 AM
I was given al load of bits and pieces from a modeller who died recently. In amongst it were small pieces as in the photos - dont know if you can still get this stuff. The 'planks' are approx 2mm wide.

Barrie
Title: Re: planking
Post by: cbr900 on October 02, 2006, 12:22:20 PM
Brian,

My planks are 6mm wide and the boat is 1900mm LOA., is that the correct sized planking on the deck, for a model that length...



Roy
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ambernblu on October 02, 2006, 12:31:09 PM

Roy, It surely still depends to which scale your boat is built in....
Title: Re: planking
Post by: cbr900 on October 02, 2006, 12:33:45 PM
The scale is 1/29
does that help, maths and myself do not get on..



Roy
Title: Re: planking
Post by: DickyD on October 02, 2006, 12:50:46 PM

About 7"or 174mm
                        ;D ;D
Title: Re: planking
Post by: cbr900 on October 02, 2006, 12:54:10 PM
DICKYD,

Are you referring to the planks used for your coffin, 7" the beam is only 12", would not be much of a plank job with two planks cut down at that... ;D ;D




Roy
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ambernblu on October 02, 2006, 01:40:42 PM

Roy, I make it 5.2mm, based on a 6" plank at 1/29th scale. So it would be near enough for me anway!  ;D

Cheers, Brian
Title: Re: planking
Post by: cbr900 on October 02, 2006, 01:43:27 PM
Thanks Brian, I will post a pic of it soon, so you can see what it has come out like..



Roy
Title: Re: planking
Post by: ambernblu on October 02, 2006, 01:55:27 PM

I'll look forward to that Roy! Its a helluver size model too - nearly 2 metres long?!? Can't wait!  ;)

Cheers, Brian
Title: Re: planking
Post by: DickyD on October 02, 2006, 01:58:39 PM
DICKYD,

Are you referring to the planks used for your coffin, 7" the beam is only 12", would not be much of a plank job with two planks cut down at that... ;D ;D




Roy

NO you Aussie planker, its all 'bottom' upards down there isn't it.

His 6mm planks would be 7" in real life not on his model. AARRRGGGHHHH!!!!!   ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: planking
Post by: cbr900 on October 02, 2006, 02:01:23 PM
OOPS Guess I got that wrong.... ???


Roy
Title: Re: planking
Post by: DickyD on October 02, 2006, 02:07:00 PM



Nice table lamp Roy


Richard   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: planking
Post by: martno1fan on October 02, 2006, 09:45:28 PM
if you want to cut your own planks from sheet stock you can make a tool for this using several sharp stanley knife blades.you take a piece of ply cut slots in for the blades then epoxy them into the slots so you have say four to six in a row.then you have a small hardwood strip along one edge of the ply to rest over the edge of the wood your stripping the planks from.you simply run the blades down the sheet stock and hey presto 4 or six planks in one swift movement!!.just a little tip i learned when cutting balsa planks.it works great just keep the tool pushed up against the sheet your cutting and you dont need to use a straight edge !!.perfectly straight planks every time once you get the hang of it.
Title: Re: planking
Post by: derekwarner on June 30, 2013, 02:49:50 AM
An old topic.......over the years I have planked a number of vessels @ 1:24 scale using 3/8" thick random groove red cedar ripped into 1/8"planks as the source material
The results have been average only and far from a truly skilled perspective
Is anyone able to offer any comment on a good text specifically for the methods of calculating the amount of tapering for the planking? .....
I think I have a mathematically calculated process for this but would welcome any old world method that may confirm my thoughts
Naturally I have spent hours on the WEB looking for such a text .....but it appears a little illusive ........Derek
Title: Re: planking
Post by: Mad Scientist on July 30, 2013, 11:10:46 PM
Planking is one of those part art/part science things...a lot depends on the hull shape.
I don't know of any formulas, but there are some CAD programs which are supposed to 'develop' plank shapes. Delftship and Freeship, for example. Might be worth a try.
Tom