Model Boat Mayhem

Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 02:30:04 pm

Title: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 02:30:04 pm
I was along at the transport museum this morning to get some picture of a ship for a forum member
unfortunately it was away being retored in preperation for moving to the new museum site
here is a good few pictures of some of the models that were on display

The three Queens (1/57th scale  :o)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0091.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0087.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0089.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0091.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0093.jpg)

Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 02:32:25 pm
HMS Ocean
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0095.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0096.jpg)

HMS Hermes

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0107.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0108.jpg)

HMS Hood

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0123.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0122.jpg)
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 02:34:47 pm
This 1916 coaster really stood out look at the funnel also ;)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0113.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0114.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0115.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0116.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0117.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0118.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0119.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0120.jpg)
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 02:37:12 pm
a WW1 minesweeping Paddle steamer O0

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0129.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0130.jpg)

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0131.jpg)

and 1 of the many large cargo ships

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0121.jpg)
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 02:39:30 pm
It isn't all ships but there is cars, bikes trains
Trams
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0140.jpg)

and even
Prams
(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0142.jpg)

The museum is free and all they ask for is a donation
so if you are in the area it is well worth a look  ;)
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: tonyH on March 14, 2009, 02:53:05 pm
Hi Gingyer,

Is there any chance that you got a photo of the model of Lairds Isle which may/may not be on show?. I'm planning a model of either HMS Engadine or HMS Riviera which became Lairds Isle after being converted back from naval use.

Thanks

Tony
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 02:57:51 pm
is it this one you are talking about
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=11656 (http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=11656)
or this
http://www.clydesite.co.uk/clydebuilt/viewship.asp?id=10927
about 1/3rd of the display is shut off and I never saw any of the small paddle steamers or small steam ships like the second link

Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: dan on March 14, 2009, 03:02:46 pm
outstanding models, i wonder how many hours it took just to build one of the Queens, and i especially like the paint job on the coaster
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 03:09:45 pm
I am a warship person but the queens are a site to behold
and there is a lot of wee bits that just complete the display

I thought the coaster was superb myself

I could not get a good picture because of the ares shut off but
1 of the highlights other that the hood is a 1:48th-ish model of the
Howe (KGV class battleship) you can see it in this picture

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg282/gingyer/IMG_0096.jpg)
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Mark47 on March 14, 2009, 03:47:49 pm
I am a warship person but the queens are a site to behold
and there is a lot of wee bits that just complete the display

I thought the coaster was superb myself

I could not get a good picture because of the ares shut off but
1 of the highlights other that the hood is a 1:48th-ish model of the
Howe (KGV class battleship) you can see it in this picture

Hi Gingyer,

Did you notice any leanders whilst you were up? By the way nice photos considering the lighting conditions in the museum. :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 14, 2009, 03:50:51 pm
Great photos gingyer, thanks!

Martin   :-))
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 03:56:46 pm
Hi mark
there is Leander it's self in the Ikara fit but
I tried to get a picture but it is tucked away with hording in the way >:-o

Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: brianc on March 14, 2009, 04:09:25 pm
Hi Mark,
I took some pics a while back and just found them,I`m uploading them now(your in for a bit of a treat mate :-)))
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: brianc on March 14, 2009, 04:13:15 pm
Her you go mate......
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0139-1.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0140.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0141.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0143.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0144-1.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0145.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0147-2.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0148.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0150.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0151-4.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0152-2.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0153.jpg)
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: brianc on March 14, 2009, 04:17:20 pm
And theres more....
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0188-2.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0190-2.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0191-2.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0193-1.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0194.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0195-1.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0196.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0197.jpg)

i`m sure I`ve got more kicking around, I`ll have a wee look :-))
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 04:28:15 pm
looks good brian,
That is the one in the corrider that is closed off  >:-o
along with some nice frigates and the prototype Tye23 model from Yarrows
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: brianc on March 14, 2009, 04:49:18 pm
Just found hundreds of pics tucked away in a folder on the computer :embarrassed:

Here are some more.....
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0133-2.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0135-1.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0129-1.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0130-1.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0131.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0136-2.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0137-3.jpg)

That should keep you going for a while Mark :-))
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: brianc on March 14, 2009, 04:53:48 pm
OOPS!! found some more....
(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0316.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0315.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0314.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0313.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0312.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0311.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0310.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0309.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0256-1.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0255.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0254-1.jpg)

(http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn280/brianc_023/PICT0253-1.jpg)

All done mate......  enjoy :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 14, 2009, 05:05:35 pm

Smashing thread, Gingyer.

Thanks for going in for me. Pity my section on Paddler Steamers was closed off. Never mind, if all their models are like this, then it would well be worth a trip there myself.


When they move to new premises, is it their intention to have all the boats in one building ?

Perhaps we could have a Mayhem day there, with tea and scones after, eh!! Martin.  :-))

ken
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 14, 2009, 05:14:04 pm

Smashing thread, Gingyer.

Thanks for going in for me. Pity my section on Paddler Steamers was closed off. Never mind, if all their models are like this, then it would well be worth a trip there myself.


When they move to new premises, is it their intention to have all the boats in one building ?

Perhaps we could have a Mayhem day there, with tea and scones after, eh!! Martin.  :-))

ken


We would hope so but nobody knows for sure the grand plans
and since glasgow council are involved it would not surpirse me if they burned all the warships
that is the mentality if this council >>:-(
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: tonyH on March 14, 2009, 06:57:44 pm
Hi Gingyer,

Yup, the second (1911) built by Wm Denny & Bros.

Great photos by the way, of some brilliant modelling!

Tony
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Bryan Young on March 14, 2009, 07:34:00 pm
I loved my visit to the Glasgow Museum of Transport. Not just for the ships, but the whole place was great. One or two of the models were suffering a little ( the large "Blue Funnel" ship in particular), and could have done with a bit of TLC. As far as museums are concerned the shipping side of things does seem to be taking a bit of a back-seat these days. I realise and understand that myself and other members of this forum are "ship lovers"...but is the general public? Modern ships are not worth a second glance. Old ships are history, and are our youngsters really interested in "history"?  Perhaps they aren't, because modern teaching ignores such arcane subjects. The guilt of the "English" slave traders is a much better stick to whack learning into our offspring. With any luck some "kids" will realise that there was more to the ascendancy of the Industrial Revolution than some Fat Cats getting fatter, and that invention, innovation and sheer cussedness made an awful lot of "things" happen.
Re Glasgow....all I can say is vote for a different council. BY.
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Mark47 on March 14, 2009, 11:53:32 pm
Hi Big_bri,

Thanks for them, as you can tell I'm still researching HMS Apollo. It probably takes five times longer to research than it does to build a model. O0

As always if you come across more Leander photos you know I'll appreciate them.  O0

I'll need to arrange a day up the club within the next month or so with you (once I pin the wife down for a copy of her shifts). Still nothing to sail, but I may have my Trent ready for sea trials by then, if not I can always bring the camera for research into future projects. :} (don't tell the wife I want to build more) {-) {-) {-)

Thanks again,

Mark
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Shipmate60 on March 15, 2009, 12:42:09 pm
Big_bri,
Any chance of you emailing the Leander pics as I am building a 1/64 scale one and those pics would be ideal for detailing.

Bob
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: BarryM on March 15, 2009, 01:27:39 pm

Smashing thread, Gingyer.

Thanks for going in for me. Pity my section on Paddler Steamers was closed off. Never mind, if all their models are like this, then it would well be worth a trip there myself.


When they move to new premises, is it their intention to have all the boats in one building ?

Perhaps we could have a Mayhem day there, with tea and scones after, eh!! Martin.  :-))

ken


My understanding - and I hope to be proved wrong - is that only a selection of maritime exhibits will be on show at the new museum on a rotating basis because of space constraints. For a city that was built on and made by the Clyde, it seems odd that shipping is having to take a subsidiary role behind land transport. The view appears to be that maritime matters are covered by the Scottish Maritime Museum with its bases at Irvine, Braehead and Dumbarton. However, as ever, the SMM is hanging on by its fingernails to survive chronic under-funding. The SMM Catch 22 is that they need Lottery Funding to kickstart them again but the Lottery Heritage Fund refuses funding because the SMM cannot demonstrate that it is a viable proposition - and without funding they cannot do that.  The Glasgow Transport Museum has far lesser funding problems being supported by Glasgow Council taxpayers.

Barry M
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Mark47 on March 15, 2009, 01:50:25 pm

Smashing thread, Gingyer.

Thanks for going in for me. Pity my section on Paddler Steamers was closed off. Never mind, if all their models are like this, then it would well be worth a trip there myself.


When they move to new premises, is it their intention to have all the boats in one building ?

Perhaps we could have a Mayhem day there, with tea and scones after, eh!! Martin.  :-))

ken


My understanding - and I hope to be proved wrong - is that only a selection of maritime exhibits will be on show at the new museum on a rotating basis because of space constraints. For a city that was built on and made by the Clyde, it seems odd that shipping is having to take a subsidiary role behind land transport. The view appears to be that maritime matters are covered by the Scottish Maritime Museum with its bases at Irvine, Braehead and Dumbarton. However, as ever, the SMM is hanging on by its fingernails to survive chronic under-funding. The SMM Catch 22 is that they need Lottery Funding to kickstart them again but the Lottery Heritage Fund refuses funding because the SMM cannot demonstrate that it is a viable proposition - and without funding they cannot do that.  The Glasgow Transport Museum has far lesser funding problems being supported by Glasgow Council taxpayers.

Barry M

Any idea where the new site is and when it's opening? There has been talk about it for years and years. I guess it's finally going to happen.
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Arrow5 on March 15, 2009, 02:17:21 pm
It is currently under construction on the River Clyde northern bank near the city centre. A radical design of building by one of the worlds greatest architects, a lady by the way. There are a few web pages with aerial photographs on the Glasgow Museums site. Maybe this could be Gingyer`s next photo excusion for us ???????
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 15, 2009, 05:41:35 pm
The new site is on what was yorkhill quay and like all the regeneration work on the clyde
it is being designed "like water" or a flaming eyesore >:-o
here is the link http://www.glasgowmuseums.com/venue/showProject.cfm?venueid=7&itemid=33 (http://www.glasgowmuseums.com/venue/showProject.cfm?venueid=7&itemid=33)
Barry M reply is what the rumours are saying but know one really knows and It would not surprise me if they got rid of the ships
the entire museum is being designed around the steam engines and 3 street scenes  {:-{
We know it would be impossible to put all the models on display BUT
they intend to increase the amount of exhibits from 1200 to 3000 but are rumoured to be reducing
the amount of model ships with more models going out to the resource centres

There is very little to see of the new museum and it wont be ready till 2011

Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: gingyer on March 15, 2009, 05:56:16 pm
Barry you mentioned the SMM at Irvine, Braehead and Dumbarton
I have not been to the Dumbarton museum but found the rest lacking and
not value for money especialy braehead.
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: BarryM on March 15, 2009, 07:06:26 pm
Gingyer,

That's a shame as Braehead won a 'Best Small Museum' award in 2005. Perhaps it tries to be all things to all people but it does present (I think) a decent few hours wandering. For those who do not know how a ship is built, it gives a good education.

Dumbarton houses the Denny test tank which until recently was still used by Strathclyde University for ship model testing. If you are interested in how commercial ship models are prepared and how these are tested in the wave tank (still one of the largest in Europe) then you'll find it worthwhile.

The big problem for the SMM is that for years it has run on a shoestring with a lot of (unpaid) work performed by volunteers. It has always had to prioritise preservation with insufficient funds with the result that it has not been able to keep up with the work load and ships neglected soon start to fall apart. The restoration of the puffer, Spartan, is almost complete and of the 19th c. Kyles is (I believe) still ongoing but these were/are being performed by donations-in-kind from commerial shipowners and shipyards. The SMM collection has now been officially recognised as the definitive Scottish collection but, when it comes to Government funding, it has to compete with other worthy causes, e.g. Scottish Mining Museum, and there is simply not enough money to go round. Given the present financial climate, this is not going to change in the short term.

The SMM has tried to keep a lot of vessels afloat when perhaps it can be argued that they would be better off bringing them ashore as static exhibits but all praise to them for trying.

Like everything else, it comes down to £sd.

Go here for revamped website http://www.scottishmaritimemuseum.org/

Barry M
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Mark47 on March 15, 2009, 07:08:02 pm
Barry you mentioned the SMM at Irvine, Braehead and Dumbarton
I have not been to the Dumbarton museum but found the rest lacking and
not value for money especialy braehead.


The Dumbarton one, is the Denny Tank. Not been in it myself because the fliers only seem to devote the museum to the history of the tank itself. It was the first one ever made to test hulls before construction. If I do decide to throw money at it, I'll let you all know what's in it, and more importantly if it's worth a visit. "Big_bri" lives a little closer than me but not by much (10 mins in a car), may be he knows more about it and can tell us if it's worth the money/visit.


Mark
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Mark47 on March 15, 2009, 07:10:44 pm
Gingyer,

That's a shame as Braehead won a 'Best Small Museum' award in 2005. Perhaps it tries to be all things to all people but it does present (I think) a decent few hours wandering. For those who do not know how a ship is built, it gives a good education.

Dumbarton houses the Denny test tank which until recently was still used by Strathclyde University for ship model testing. If you are interested in how commercial ship models are prepared and how these are tested in the wave tank (still one of the largest in Europe) then you'll find it worthwhile.

The big problem for the SMM is that for years it has run on a shoestring with a lot of (unpaid) work performed by volunteers. It has always had to prioritise preservation with insufficient funds with the result that it has not been able to keep up with the work load and ships neglected soon start to fall apart. The restoration of the puffer, Spartan, is almost complete and of the 19th c. Kyles is (I believe) still ongoing but these were/are being performed by donations-in-kind from commerial shipowners and shipyards. The SMM collection has now been officially recognised as the definitive Scottish collection but, when it comes to Government funding, it has to compete with other worthy causes, e.g. Scottish Mining Museum, and there is simply not enough money to go round. Given the present financial climate, this is not going to change in the short term.

The SMM has tried to keep a lot of vessels afloat when perhaps it can be argued that they would be better off bringing them ashore as static exhibits but all praise to them for trying.

Like everything else, it comes down to £sd.

Go here for revamped website http://www.scottishmaritimemuseum.org/

Barry M

You just got in there first, about the Denny Tank. :-)) O0 O0
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: Mark47 on March 15, 2009, 07:11:25 pm
The new site is on what was yorkhill quay and like all the regeneration work on the clyde
it is being designed "like water" or a flaming eyesore >:-o
here is the link http://www.glasgowmuseums.com/venue/showProject.cfm?venueid=7&itemid=33 (http://www.glasgowmuseums.com/venue/showProject.cfm?venueid=7&itemid=33)
Barry M reply is what the rumours are saying but know one really knows and It would not surprise me if they got rid of the ships
the entire museum is being designed around the steam engines and 3 street scenes  {:-{
We know it would be impossible to put all the models on display BUT
they intend to increase the amount of exhibits from 1200 to 3000 but are rumoured to be reducing
the amount of model ships with more models going out to the resource centres

There is very little to see of the new museum and it wont be ready till 2011



Thanks for the link, I'll have a look into it. O0 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: BarryM on March 15, 2009, 08:44:59 pm
Remember if you go to Irvine that it is only open April - October. Funds are not sufficient to enable it to open year-round. Of course if you are a volunteer, you will probably be able to get access at any time!  O0

Dumbarton and Braehead are open year-round.

Barry M
Title: Re: Glasgow Transport Museum
Post by: BarryM on April 16, 2009, 05:34:40 pm
Forgot to say that membership of the Scottish Maritime Heritage Association  for £10/year (or £15/couple) gets you into any of the three museums as many times as you want for a year.

http://www.smha.org.uk/index.php?pr=Home_Page


Barry M