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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: MGrob on April 04, 2009, 08:51:14 pm

Title: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 04, 2009, 08:51:14 pm
On going to the local modelshop i picked up an Airfix kit of the HMS Hood.

after getting home i thought wouldnt it look better if say it were 7 foot longer ? ? ?

so out came the pencil, measuring tape and paper and jotted down dimensions, etc etc.

took a while to work out a profile of this vessel, and after lookin on the net with no joy (other than having to pay to have plans) i decided i would draw my own, this wasnt a problem as have built many model flying aircraft in the past in this way.

after measuring the kit i came up with a model that would be 7 ft 1 inch long,

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/hmshoodbulkheads.jpg)

after drawing the profiles on paper i scanned them onto the trusty laptop and traced the lines and reprinted to the actual size that i required...the magic of technology

so today i have started the build and will show my progress as i go through

thanks,

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: RickF on April 05, 2009, 12:28:01 am
Airfix Kit 1:600 scale = about £17.00. Plus effort of measuring tiny hull, including all of Mr Airfix's "adjustments" for manufacturing, drawing up plans to 1:140 scale etc?

"Model Boats" plans at 1:192 scale = £9.95 plus scan and scale?

As I often say, it's your model, but why do it this way?

Rick
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 05, 2009, 02:25:49 am
after looking at the plastic kit i figured how hard can it be, but i get my enjoyment from drawing and building. dont get me wrong, i like to build from plans aswell. but theres something about a model that you knew you had everything to do with designing and building from scratch.

first batch of pictures later today
 
Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: Eric65 on April 05, 2009, 08:23:39 am
You may want to but 'Anatomy of the Ship HMS HOOD' by John Roberts, tons of excellent detailed drawings.

Good luck with your build MGrobs, we look forward to seeing some pics!
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 05, 2009, 10:23:46 am
just took some quick pics, sorry but not wide enough lense  :-)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/S7301435.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/S7301436.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/S7301437.jpg)

more later........

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 05, 2009, 04:10:37 pm
some more pictures:

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/S7301438.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/S7301440.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/S7301441.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/S7301442.jpg)

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 06, 2009, 01:02:08 pm
Hi all, late night last night, wanted to get all bulkheads done.....

certainly lookin ship shape....no pun intended  {-)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/010.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/011.jpg)

not long to skinning to hull, cant wait

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: Bunkerbarge on April 07, 2009, 05:35:00 pm
Very interesting to see a hull go together this way and scaling from a model must be interesting if not a more challenging way of doing it.

By the way great signature, you must like the same as me?!!
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MartinH-K on April 07, 2009, 07:22:16 pm
Hi Matey
Keep up the good work. I too am building Hood from scratch and include a piccie of where I'm at. The first year is the worst!
Best wishes
Martin
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 08, 2009, 01:53:58 am
Bunkerbarge, i had an mg zr 1.8 few months back but gave her up for a BMW 3 series,

done some more planking today, looks like i havent touched it, but hopefully this time next week shall be ready fo sanding  %%

more pics to come soon

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 08, 2009, 01:56:52 am
Hi Matey
Keep up the good work. I too am building Hood from scratch and include a piccie of where I'm at. The first year is the worst!
Best wishes
Martin

hoping to have mine completed in about 1 year, but we shall see. keep up the good work martin....
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: dreadnought72 on April 08, 2009, 09:18:16 am
Huh.

My first year of building was so long ago, I've forgotten whether I enjoyed it or not!  %%

The third anniversary of my build was a couple of weeks ago.  :o

Andy
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 08, 2009, 06:08:59 pm
starboard side, rear finished today, just rest to go.......

if I knew it was gonna be this labour intensive i wouldnt have bothered  %%

but plus side, does look good BIG

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/002.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/004.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/005.jpg)

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MartinH-K on April 09, 2009, 04:11:34 pm
Oh yes!!! Size DOES matter! O0 :-))
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 11, 2009, 12:53:44 am
Update

More planking and sanding and filling and sanding and filling and planking and sanding blah blah blah .......  %%

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/002-1.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/004-1.jpg)

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/007.jpg)

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: Mark47 on April 11, 2009, 10:54:33 am
Rob,

What's your plancking material?

Mark
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MartinH-K on April 11, 2009, 05:17:32 pm
Your workspace looks a bit like mine... :embarrassed:
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 11, 2009, 07:33:09 pm
Rob,

What's your plancking material?

Mark

a combination of light ply, and odd bit of balsa, then fiber glass on the inside...

and as for the workshop, was tidy when i started, but then just got messy but strange thing is i know where everything is  :}
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 12, 2009, 06:25:19 pm
one more picture, before all the finish sanding, and before the 1st layer of primer goes on....

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd237/mgrob/006.jpg)

just noticed also that all the gnomes have come over to have a look  {-)

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MartinH-K on April 12, 2009, 07:04:23 pm
Probably a stupid question but I notice the stern seems to be squared off. Are putting it on seperately? I mean... you're about to give it its first primer coat... {:-{
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 12, 2009, 07:10:02 pm
havent yet stuck it on yet, i did this part in block and shaped it that way

good observation tho, will be doing the spraying when weather gets better again, easter weather always the same  {-)
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: Arrow5 on April 12, 2009, 07:28:18 pm
I think you should consider fibreglassing the balsa, strengthen and waterproof, ding-proof. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 13, 2009, 12:48:23 am
way ahead of ya, started fibreglassing earler this afternoon, love the smell it gives off but the nagging of the other half  {-)

planning on spraying next weekend if all goes ok, more pics to follow once more has been done

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: Capricorn on April 13, 2009, 03:17:22 am
Rob, it looks great, always good to see builds like this.  I'd say it's going exceptionally fast, less than two weeks! (if I'm reading the dates right)  Will be fun to watch the rest go together.  Should be done in another month at the rate you are going 8). Cap
(building a similar size boat myself, 10'-6" long destroyer, has been very enjoyable project, not going this fast though)
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 13, 2009, 09:40:12 pm
Rob, it looks great, always good to see builds like this.  I'd say it's going exceptionally fast, less than two weeks! (if I'm reading the dates right)  Will be fun to watch the rest go together.  Should be done in another month at the rate you are going 8). Cap
(building a similar size boat myself, 10'-6" long destroyer, has been very enjoyable project, not going this fast though)

i would agree that the build is going fast, but will soon slow down once i start building the upper decks and superstuctures, and the guns which there are many of. But enjoying every minute of building and will enjoy it more when its on the water.

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MartinH-K on April 13, 2009, 11:07:15 pm
What incarnation are you fixing her in (what years)? ok2
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 14, 2009, 06:56:45 pm
as she was before the bismark sent her to the bottom of the sea.
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MartinH-K on April 14, 2009, 08:15:08 pm
So... May 1941? The question is not so stupid as it sounds. :}
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 18, 2009, 07:52:36 pm
hi guys, no new pics yet.

doing all the boring preparation work before i can begin spraying but will be all worth the efforts

thats all for now

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 25, 2009, 09:17:48 pm
just a quick question.....

what would peoples views be if i were to add a bow thruster....just that if i got into a bit of bother and get stuck and cannot turn i thought that this might be a good idea to add one now before i start doing the upper decks.

cheers

Rob
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MartinH-K on April 25, 2009, 11:07:23 pm
Everything I've heard suggests it's not necessary.... even on something as big as what I'm doing I'm not adding one but its up to you...
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: TCC on April 25, 2009, 11:40:08 pm
just a quick question.....
what would peoples views be if i were to add a bow thruster...
That's one you have to answer yourself. You know it's not 'right' for the model but you'll be the one living with it. Get your line rehearsed for when you'll have to answer for it at shows and stuff. :-)
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: tweety777 on April 26, 2009, 08:35:19 am
Hi Rob,

If you would add a bowthruster it would be best to use something like a pump with in- and outlets in the bottom of the hull, as you can then not see them anymore.
Isn't steering with the props (1 side forwards the other side backwards) in combination with some helping tugs enough?
The length-to-beam ratio is very important to get a good manouvreability, a length-to-beam ratio of 2 means very manouvreable, and 8,2 (for Hood) means very course-steady and not manouvreable.
You will really need a large rudder and 2 ESC's to steer with the props.

Greetings Josse
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MartinH-K on April 26, 2009, 10:35:51 am
Hood would handle a bit like a canal barge... its to do with anticipation and knowing what your turning circle will be. Have you thought about a detachable system so that you an... detach it when on display? {:-{
Title: Re: HMS HOOD - MGrobs BUILD
Post by: MGrob on April 26, 2009, 11:17:23 am
thanks for the input guys, will most likely try 2 ESCs and a larger rudder. Cheers

Rob