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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: VIVALDI on April 11, 2009, 09:47:51 pm
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Hello,
at the request of nhp651, here's a summary in pictures of the scratchbuild of the trawler VIVALDI of Lorient. The scale is 1/13th the dimensions 1M75X0M52. It weighs 82 Kilos. The model is covered with aluminum. The propeller pitch is personal design.
If seen have any questions, try to answer within the limits of my English.
More photos here: http://cnavale.quennetier.free.fr/spip.php?article1
Kénavo, Philippe!
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Here is photos of the built of the propeller of the model of the trawler Vivaldi. It's a controlable pitch propeller that I built entirely.
You can see the different stages of construction here: http://cnavale.quennetier.free.fr/spip.php?article17
Kénavo, Philippe!
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That is a great job" when looking at the some of the pictures I cannot tell if it is the real boat, or just the model that is very nice job. :-))
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WOW :o
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That really is a great job! The aluminium work is superb. Congratulations!
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thanks philippe,
i am mesmorised every time i look at it.
it is just beautiful.
neil. :-)) :-))
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Fantastic! :-))
..... I'm giving up model boat building...... again!
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Simply stunning!
Wilhelm
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Verry impressive.
G. George
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Awe inspiring !!
John
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Beautiful machinery, that propeller is really a work of art, but to be able to do that as well as build the bridge to such a stunning level of detail is a rare combination.
Stunning, I think I'm going to take up baking, or knitting, or go into a corner and polish my motorbike.
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Thank you for all your compliments! You make me blush! :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
This building was a good experience. Long, but very pleasant!
I had so much fun to make this boat with this technique, which I will repeat with another trawler. It is called STIREN AR MOR. It is a 16-meter trawler that will scale 1/15. Do not try this boat in a port, because this boat is completely out of my imagination and that of my eldest son Yohann. Yohann is fisherman at the port of Le Croisic(France) and skipp time to time the trawler "MABON II".This project trawler that we developed together, is the boat he would build if he created his company. At the moment, I draw the plans and construction could start in 2 months. The boat will be built with the same plating process as aluminum as the Vivaldi, with a controlable pitch propeller that I realize
I'll show you pictures of the work throughout construction.
In the first picture, here is the design of the project. The model will have the same colors. And another picts of the VIVALDI.
Kénavo, Philippe!
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It's a shame to cover all that beautiful minature engineering up with paint work, but when you are looking at the photos of the winch deck she really does look like the real ship and not a minature creation.
Absolutely beautiful, Philippe. :-)) :-))
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Hello
:o Vivaldi you are here ?
I know well this masterpiece, this miracle, as the first sea trial took place at home, on my personnal pond named Porz Bihan (Little harbour in breton language)
As I have a covered part and an electrical lift with 200kg capacity, it was a very good help to check and to make adjustement to the variable pitch propeller as the boat need to be out of water, in water, out of water, in water ....
In fact the main problem with this boat in my home pond was the smell of fish >>:-( she's a trawler and I'm only works with tugboat
Of course it's humour :embarrassed:
Some pics taken at that time
(http://nsa06.casimages.com/img/2009/04/12/0904121255446062.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsa06.casimages.com/img/2009/04/12/090412125709864045.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsa06.casimages.com/img/2009/04/12/090412125750690487.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
Hoping to see you soon.
A+ Xtian
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The boat is really beautiful but I want that pond, its excellent.
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Fantastic! :-))
..... I'm giving up model boat building...... again!
Martin, I might join you.
Beautiful is an understatement.
Ron.
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Oh for a back garden like that,
never mind the skills to build such a model as Vivali has..............i think if I did that in my back garden my wife'd divorce me and the kids would have me sectioned...... {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
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In fact the main problem with this boat in my home pond was the smell of fish
Xtian to thank you for allowing me to do testing of the propeller and to see the model for the first time in the water!
Even if it's a "boat that smell of fish", his eyes betraying his addiction for trawlers (see pics following). He does not want it be known ... :embarrassed: :embarrassed: O0 O0
These tests allowed me to see the need for the engine is powered by 9V. 12 V is much too powerful. While sailing, the electric engine always runs at the same speed, and only the tilt of the blades gives the appearance to the vessel. For a correct speed, I only use 40% of the inclination of the blades, leaving a lot of power in reserve to go up a high current for example.
The pics below are proof of that Xtian like fishing vessels ... ok2 ok2 %% (pics taken in Pors Bihan)
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Anybody know of a nice hobby they can recommend, cause I quite! OK, only joking but this is just too much. What a nice boat, it really looks like photos from a real vessel being built. And that pond! Congratulations to both of you!
Hama.
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Oh for a back garden like that,
never mind the skills to build such a model as Vivali has..............i think if I did that in my back garden my wife'd divorce me and the kids would have me sectioned...... {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Let the wife and kids go Neil, we'll all keep you company. ok2
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Absolutely jawdropping, it just looks amazing in the water. Jealous me never :embarrassed:
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i like the pond aswell as the boats. By the looks of it even if its pouring with rain you can stand under the shelter and have a wee sail!
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Hi Vivaldi,
A outstanding work of engineering and craftmanship. The use of aluminum I really like. I have used lots of brass which I solder and would be interested in what bonding material is used on the aluminum.
G. George
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Hi ggeorge,
Aluminium is stuck, with an industrial product used in aeronautics, which is a paste, and which is preserved at the freezer. Failing this, one can use the epoxy one with two components. It is besides the process which I will use for the next model that I will build, "Stiren Ar Mor". .
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wow!
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If i could build like that ,,out right quit my day job ...
That is Museum quality beyond any reasonable doubt.. :-))
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You have shone some outstanding brass work!
Moderated
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You have shone some outstanding brass work!
Now if that can be made in 1/96th scale .
Who wants to try?
Paul
Vous avez brillé un certain travail en laiton exceptionnel ! Maintenant si cela peut être fait dans la 1/96th balance. Qui veut essayer ? Paul
hello,
>>:-( >>:-( This is not correct to take advantage of a topic to advertise your business, especially to military models that have absolutely nothing to do with models of trawlers. If you want to advertise, open another topic, but just do not pollute this subject, thank you. nhp651 asked me to open a topic to present the trawler VIVALDI, and nothing else, and certainly not the promotion of a company! >:-o
English french translator you are using is not understandable. {:-{
@, Philippe
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You have shone some outstanding brass work!
Now if that can be made in 1/96th scale .
Who wants to try?
Paul
Vous avez brillé un certain travail en laiton exceptionnel ! Maintenant si cela peut être fait dans la 1/96th balance. Qui veut essayer ? Paul
hello,
>>:-( >>:-( This is not correct to take advantage of a topic to advertise your business, especially to military models that have absolutely nothing to do with models of trawlers. If you want to advertise, open another topic, but just do not pollute this subject, thank you. nhp651 asked me to open a topic to present the trawler VIVALDI, and nothing else, and certainly not the promotion of a company! >:-o
English french translator you are using is not understandable. {:-{
@, Philippe
I agree this is getting a bit much this advertising .
Proteus
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here here, phillipe.
could the moderators or martin please remove the advert, and we can just concentrate on phillipes beautiful work.
thanks.
neil.
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Philippe, You sir, are a master in the field of building with aluminum. And a beautiful fishing trawler you have built.
I look forward to the next vessel from your hands.
One question. The paste you use. Is it to stick the aluminum to the wood frame, or aluminum to aluminum?
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You have shone some outstanding brass work!
Now if that can be made in 1/96th scale .
Who wants to try?
Paul
Vous avez brillé un certain travail en laiton exceptionnel ! Maintenant si cela peut être fait dans la 1/96th balance. Qui veut essayer ? Paul
You can still click on to the web site! I think you will need to modify the whole lot to remove the "free advertisment".
Lovely build Vivaldi.
Ron.
hello,
>>:-( >>:-( This is not correct to take advantage of a topic to advertise your business, especially to military models that have absolutely nothing to do with models of trawlers. If you want to advertise, open another topic, but just do not pollute this subject, thank you. nhp651 asked me to open a topic to present the trawler VIVALDI, and nothing else, and certainly not the promotion of a company! >:-o
English french translator you are using is not understandable. {:-{
@, Philippe
I haven't quite put the above on correctly but I believe you can see what I mean. The site is still accessible.
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He puts that web site address on all his postings >>:-(
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I can't see anything wrong with the posting ,
"You have shone some outstanding brass work!
Now if that can be made in 1/96th scale .
Who wants to try?"
if you look at all the posts by emspaul they all pretty well have that signature on , and wasn't advertising as such. There are a lot of members on here who could have replied who also have their business addy in their Signature.
(might be better to have the www site in the signature area rather than the main text granted)
And I have to agree with Paul , what a work of art.. I to also would like that test tank by the house.
Larry
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I can't see anything wrong with the posting ,
"You have shone some outstanding brass work!
Now if that can be made in 1/96th scale .
Who wants to try?"
if you look at all the posts by emspaul they all pretty well have that signature on , and wasn't advertising as such. There are a lot of members on here who could have replied who also have their business addy in their Signature.
(might be better to have the www site in the signature area rather than the main text granted)
And I have to agree with Paul , what a work of art.. I to also would like that test tank by the house.
Larry
I thank you for your comments everyone! :-)) O0
Then, I do not agree! >>:-(
First, it is a deviation from the topic. We are talking about french trawler, and that person presents warships. And I may offend the world, but I hated warships! <*< <*<
Secondly, he introduced a commercial site! This is not innocent! :P
If this should happen again, so I prefer that the administrator removes the topic and my name on the forum. :-X
I do not want to serve as a springboard for any commercial website. >:-o
I work with a manufacturer of fittings for model boats, and never on a forum I would advertise for him, because a forum should be a space to discuss, and not a way to promote any action commercial.
It's my opinion! You may not share, but if it should be allowed a practice I do not post here anymore. :-X :-X :-X
I hope that despite my English not perfect, you understand me! {:-{ :D :embarrassed:
@+, Philippe!
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it would be a sad loss to us all, vivaldi if you were to stop posting on this site. have a word with martin and tell him how you feel,
neil. :-))
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VIVALDI,
Martin and we Moderators understand how you feel.
Unfortunately Mayhem is being used by a number of folk who want to promote their own interests. We attempt to eliminate them as soon as we see their efforts and we very much appreciate any Member using the "Report to Moderator" button to draw our attention to something we have missed.
We have tightened the Sales Rules to make it clear that a Member or a Trader cannot get away with abusing this Site.
Votre anglais c'est bien. Nous vous comprend tres bien, merci. (Translation as required by Mayhem Rules: "Your English is OK. We understand you very well, thank you").
Roger in France
Moderator
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roger, could you therefore remove the links to the offending threads, for Vivaldi's peace of mind.
after all, less offending sections HAVE been removed before on many occasions.
neil :-))
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I would like to thank the team of the forum for their fast intervention! :-))
OK, for me the incident is closed...
+, Philippe!
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phillipe, A am intrigued at the V/P screws, have you got any pictures of how you made them work?
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phillipe, A am intrigued at the V/P screws, have you got any pictures of how you made them work?
Please Ghost in the shell, could you tell me what screws you mentioned (V/P????), I did not understand, sorry!
If I know what we are talking, I put a picture, no problems ;)
@+, Philippe!
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I think he means variable pitch propellers. You will have to excuse ghosty, we are still trying to teach him English ;)
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If it helps......the French for "propellor" is "helice" with an accent on the "e" which i am too lazy to go through the multiple steps to find on an English keyboard!
Roger in France
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Vivaldi refered it as controlable pitch prop,if that helps.
Superb built boat
Mark
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VIVALDI on no account are you allowed to leave this site,I have shown many people the photographs of this build and at first most people thought it was a Full size trawler and thay were astounded by the amount of detail that has been put into this masterpiece which I would compare to the work that was put into the Cistine Chapel excuse the spelling
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if you speak English with an accent, how would you like me to understand! {-) {-) {-) :embarrassed:
Here is the link of the build of the "hélice à pas variable" (in french language). You can see how i made screws :
lien en français:
http://cnavale.quennetier.free.fr/spip.php?article17
link in english :
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://cnavale.quennetier.free.fr/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://cnavale.quennetier.free.fr/%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26hs%3DG6K%26sa%3DG
if you want to be patient in the coming months I'll show you how I work on these parts in the topic:
Prototype trawler "Stiren Ar Mor" http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=16680.0
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VIVALDI on no account are you allowed to leave this site,I have shown many people the photographs of this build and at first most people thought it was a Full size trawler and thay were astounded by the amount of detail that has been put into this masterpiece which I would compare to the work that was put into the Cistine Chapel excuse the spelling
Thank you for all the messages of praise.
if I come here, this is just to show you how I work and want to share my scratchbuild technics.
I have no desire to leave, but I simply ask you to ask your questions in English that I can understand, thank you! ;)
Thank you to those who help me understand some messages! :-)) O0
@+, Philippe!
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Hello,
The model club of Brest (France, Britanny) will attend the International Model Boat Show on 6, 7 & 8 November 2009 at Warwick. The models of Vivaldi and the Galaxy will be present. I hope to meet some of you during this weekend!
Kénavo!
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Vivaldi
I was at warwick this year. I said to my friends one of those models on the french stand should get best in show,
supprised they didnot a third I believe
I have only just found this posting. after seeing how these are built and the skill used in many aspects of modeling
you guys without doubt are some of the best, I also saw you there the year before with a part built tug.
it is nice of you to take the trouble to travel over to the show and I know it is greatly appreciated by many people.
see you all next year I hope
Mick
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Hello,
Mick, we are very pleased to be third. It is a great result, with the quality of some models exposed!
Thank you for your appreciation.
And thank's to all the modelers for their hospitality and kindness.
I will certainly return (now that I know the way! :-)) ok2). I dont know when exactly, but I will return it on! And hopefully with more models... ok2
Kénavo, Philippe!
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Your trawler is far beyond what i could ever hope to achieve , it is a real masterclass in model making O0
The french fishermen do have some very nice looking vessels and it is nice to see a model of one built with such a degree of perfection , keep up the good work O0 :-))
Andy
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Below are the last pieces that I made on the trawler model of Vivaldi.
These is trawl door. Fully brass brazed to the silver and soldered with tin.
The first picture shows trawl door on the true trawler.
Kénavo, Philippe!
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Great piece of work.