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Title: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: nhp651 on April 19, 2009, 01:39:56 pm
Not really into electrics,

I have two IDENTICAL BUHLER motors, except that one is fitted with a suppression kit( don't know why as these motors are so clean running anyway )...... except for the speed at which they turn under battery power.

I can put them on any volt battery from 3 to 12v and one runs approximately twice the speed of the other.

Can anyone explain to me the reason why please, and whether I could ever use them as a pair on a twin screw boat with twin ESC'c.
cheers,neil; %% %% %%
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 19, 2009, 02:10:24 pm
Buhler motors are made for different applications and voltages.
It sounds like you have 2 motors that look similar but one has double the opersting voltage.
As to using together, either double the voltage on the slower motor or have a boat that forever goes in circled.
The standard answer would be not to use in the same boat.

Bob
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: stallspeed on April 19, 2009, 02:44:48 pm
buehler/ buhler (http://www.buehlermotor.com) put paper part number stickers on them.

Neil,there is a fair chance the same motors as yours is part of the usual 1/4 million surplus consignment that passes through the hands of surplus vendors like surplus traders (http://www.surplustraders.net/a/0082.shtml) and goldmine electrics (http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/departments.asp?dept=1103)
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: nhp651 on April 19, 2009, 02:49:18 pm
cheers lads,
i'll find 2 different ones for my lifeboat.
thanks. neil. :-))
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 19, 2009, 02:50:56 pm
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i'll find 2 different ones for my lifeboat.

Which will presumably make it circle in the opposite direction....  :}
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: nhp651 on April 19, 2009, 03:16:02 pm
it'll save on cost of a bow thruster, colin.lol {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: Stavros on April 19, 2009, 03:36:02 pm
Fit a pair of motors off MMB awsome motors.Not at all connected sposored etc etc with MMB but  very happy customer



Stavros
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 19, 2009, 05:01:47 pm
I was just going to suggest the same thing.

Bob
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: nhp651 on April 19, 2009, 06:04:53 pm
cheers, Guys.
I do have a pair of motors from another lifeboat, about the same size as the buhlers and they were great for low down upto excellent scale speed for the old classic lifeboat,and will probably use those, but can't remember where the buhlers came from. {:-{
The next model that I will need big fast motors for is a Speedline Tamar ( unless a certain member requires it  ;D) that I have on my slipway waiting to be built, but I think I'll be going brushless with that one. %%
Thanks for the info though. :-))
neil
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: Proteus on April 19, 2009, 07:51:31 pm
you may find one motor is 12 volt and the other 24 volt I have had both and they look identical , they normally have a number on the body you can look up the speck on there site, both are OK at the correct voltage.

Proteus
Title: Re: IDENTICAL MOTORS - DIFFERENT SPEEDS
Post by: nhp651 on April 19, 2009, 08:15:48 pm
cheers proteus.
i'll just use another matched set. :-))