Model Boat Mayhem
Technical, Techniques, Hints, and Tips => Painting, Finishing and Care. => Topic started by: monarch on May 12, 2009, 04:42:45 pm
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Hi
Have bought a second hand Marie Feling tug and have damaged the hull, I know it was painted with Humbrol paint and has a matt red oxide finish and wonder if anyone can suggest colour and number that may be suitable.
Thanks
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Revell paint number 37 :-))
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You could try wading through this lot http://www.airfix.com/humbrol-paints-and-accessories/paints/all-paints/
Barry M
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The original Humbrol "Hull Red" was number 177.
Colin
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Assuming (always dangerous) that you are talking about the underwater bit of the hull.....why not just use Red Oxide, The colour is an almost perfect match for "anti-fouling" paint found on "real" ship", dries well without brush marks and is long lasting. Also, the "small" tins are a darn sight cheaper than the Humbrol equivalent and last longer in the tin....plus having the bonus of having lots in reserve if you want a bit of a "touch-up" (still talking of hulls). BY.
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Bryan, I'm not sure whether Monarch simply wanted to touch up the existing paint or repaint the underwater part of the hull entirely. You are of course right that car primer "red oxide" is a very good match for real ship antifouling but in this case it would seem that the existing paint is enamel and so using a solvent based paint on top isn't likely to be an option as it is likely to react with the Humbrol underneath.
In any event, trying to touch in an area would be a bit problematical anyway so Monarch would be best advised to find a "red oxide" coloured enamel and use that. Humbrol no longer do Hull Red but No.70 Brick Red might be an acceptable alternative.
Colin
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Hi
Thanks all, reading comments seems a better bet to repaint the complete hull below water line with red oxide from halfords or the like and then re-varnish.
Lionel
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Lionel,
That's not what i meant! Unless the existing paint finish is very old - 10 years or so - you risk the Halfords solvent reacting with the existing finish. Then you will have a job and a half on your hands!
If you think the existing finish is Humbrol enamel then it's best to stick to that. The Brick Red colour should look OK.
Colin
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Hi there Monarch
As Colin has stated, the chances are, the hull will be painted Humbrol number 177 (hull red), although this colour is no longer available - according to Humbrol's Colour System book which I have you can make this colour match up. You would do this by blending these Humbrol colours ;
No 60 x 53 drops
No 34 x 15 drops
No 33 x 14 drops
then
No 99 x 2 drops
How large the drops are, I suppose is up to yourself, as long as all of the drops are kept of the same volume/amount :-))
The other alternative is; Tamiya do a hull red which is very near to humrel hol rod - or even Humbrol's hull red :-)) :-)) ;) That Tamiya colour is XF9 - the drawback with this colour though is that its an acrylic paint - so, if you do choose to paint your hull with this - it would have to be a full paint job.
If you go the Halford's red oxide route, I believe all Halford paints now may be an acrylic base; and they may not react to the Humbrol - but BE SAFE - test a small piece first before doing a full hull.
Hope this is of some help.
Aye
john e
bluebird
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Hi
Taking on all your great comments, would it be better to use enamel or acrylic. I think from all the info it will be easier to repaint then try to match old paint.
Great help
Thanks Lionel
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Acrylics, whether water or chemical based, WILL react with humbrol enamal based paints.
They dry by evaporation and etching process, and the enamel( oil based) will be picked off like orange peel on an over ripe satsuma.
And then it's a whole mess as Colin says to sand it all down, especially as the top side is already fitted out.
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I use Humbrol 70 brick red and gloss red Humbrol 19 mixed to get the right shade and fingerprint free finish, ie , a harder finish than just matt.
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Lionel, I would go with John's suggestion. The paint will be compatible with what you have on the hull at the moment.
Colin