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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: norry on October 09, 2006, 04:53:18 pm

Title: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: norry on October 09, 2006, 04:53:18 pm
Hi Guys...This part of the Forum is a bit quiet just now, So I thought i would post a couple of pictures of my Model Damen Stan Tug 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
I took this tug to the National Tug Towing Finals recently at Ellesmere Port & it attracted a fair bit of interest from the other Tug Skippers...
It is called "STANFORCE" as it has been built as a Stan Tug on a "WYEFORCE" hull...
It has twin independantly controlled GRAUPNER 720 TORQUE  motors...GRAUPNER Bow Thruster...
Working Towing Winch...& I am planning on fitting a Gog Winch next...
It is pictured here towing one of a pair of 1/24 Scale 100 foot x 30 foot Flat Top Barges at Largs Model Boat Club...
I Hope You Like Them...
...Regards...Norry...
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: ron h on October 09, 2006, 06:39:54 pm
Very nice, but I think you got your date wrong. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: andywright on October 09, 2006, 07:43:49 pm
Have to get photographing, my barges aren't as nice as that one, but they tow OK. I like the Stantug Norrie.
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: norry on October 09, 2006, 08:04:02 pm
Hi Ron....
The 1906 bit is the Damen Number 19m Long and 6m Beam...

The Barge is one of a matching pair that I built for this tug...This one is called "JAYFORCE" after my Largs M.B.C. mate James MacLean & the other one is called "NORFORCE" after myself...
I have just acquired a large Fully Working Crawler Crane to put on the other barge...I will; put it on the other barge when I can get it back off my 6 year old son Johnny who has been playing with it since I took it out of the box...
The Picture Below is of Clyde Marines Damen Stan Tug 1906 "BATTLER" which my tug is based on...
The other picture is of Williams Shippings Damen Stan Tug 1906 "WILLPOWER"

                      ...Regards...Norry...

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Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: andywright on October 10, 2006, 09:49:38 pm
Heres a few of my Nangee and my barge, I now have two of these barges, its easier for car transport, I lash them together at the lake side to make a decent sized tow.


(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1148/img0815mediumge9.th.jpg) (http://img189.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0815mediumge9.jpg)

(http://img280.imageshack.us/img280/7131/img0842mediumpu4.th.jpg) (http://img280.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0842mediumpu4.jpg)

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Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: cbr900 on October 11, 2006, 05:35:10 am
This is a pic of my Tugger Two and the two barges behind her, fourteen feet long overall, sorry the pic quality is not to good....



Roy
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: mike_victoriabc on October 11, 2006, 06:42:34 am
Nice looking tug, Norrie

I'm not familiar with the Graupner drive units - are they geared ones? I have a  Wyeforce kit staring at me (actually my two cats are eying up the hull!) that I've been debating what units to put into it. Perhaps these if I can locate them.
Regards,
Mike
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: mike_victoriabc on October 11, 2006, 06:43:52 am
Must learn to read - sorry Norry
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: norry on October 11, 2006, 09:38:52 am
    ...Hi Mike...
   
The main problem I found with the WYEFORCE model was that it was a bit too high with the    2 storey deckhouse & caught too much wind when positioning or towing.
Thats why i decided to build a DAMEN STAN TUG from the hull as it is not as high...

This way it makes a perfect boat for tug-towing ...

Another big reason is that i am a big fan of the DAMEN TUGS...



                                  ... REGARDS...NORRY...
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: cbr900 on October 11, 2006, 11:23:19 am
I though there was a cut down model on the main site, for the same reason Norry, I could be wrong........



Roy
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: mike_victoriabc on October 11, 2006, 03:28:17 pm
I'll have to read through the Damen sites - a glance shows some nice looking tugs!

The Graupner 720 - is this running direct or is there a gearbox or belt drive as well? I found specs for the 720 but no reduction systems. I've been using the Robbe ones but they can be noisy, especially in the larger hulls.

I'm going to have to look at the Wyeforce kit and see what I can change as the lower profile is starting to appeal to me.
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: norry on October 11, 2006, 07:02:50 pm
Hi Mike...
                 
If you contact Damen through their website & ask for a catalogue, You will find lots of good pictures & ideas for future model projects...
Damen are a modeller freindly company whom I have found very helpful in the past...
I have been thinking about a DAMEN STAN TUG 2608 in 1/32 scale using a WYEFORCE hull...

...REGARDS...Norry...
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: Model_Slipway on October 11, 2006, 07:31:45 pm
Mike,

The Graupner 720BB, direct drive for our Wyeforce, brilliant motors !  Try Great Hobbies or Burnaby Hobbies in Canada, alternatively  Harbor Models in the US.

Jackie
info@modelslipway.com
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: norry on October 16, 2006, 03:56:39 pm
  ...Hi Jackie...
I have 2 Graupner 720 BB Torque Motors in My STANFORCE model which is built on the WYEFORCE hull.

I find the only problem with them is that the motor that has to run backwards does not give anywhere near the same power output as the one that is running forwards...
When I put both throttles "Full Ahead" the boat pulls away very sharply to one side...
If you have a solution to this problem, Could you please pass it on to me...
I will be at Blackpool on Sunday, So I will speak tp you then...

            ...REGARDS...Norry...
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: mike_victoriabc on October 17, 2006, 06:25:35 am
What are you using for speed controllers?

I have had similar problems when using a mixer. I opted for a 4 channel radio and it seemed to solve the problem. I thought it was due to the two motors requiring slightly different voltage to get them both to the same revs (friction in the shafts, etc).

Your thoughts?

regards, Mike
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: andywright on October 27, 2006, 02:09:46 pm
Norrie,
 where did you get thee drawing for the Wheelhouse from, or is it from pictures, that looks like the late style one. I am in the procees of puchasing the MMM hull to do iether the Barrlwer or Valiant B two of the latest deliveries from Damen
Andy
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: norry on October 27, 2006, 03:50:17 pm
                ...Hi Andy...

  I built the Wheelhouse from pictures & the plan of MMM,s 1906 plan in 1/32 scale...
 
  It is just built to my own liking in Semi Scale, Especially for Tug Towing Competitions....
 
  If you are buying a hull from Mobile Marine Models, The plan comes with it...

  There are plenty of pictures of Damen 1906,s  available on the net & Damen will help you in any  waythat they can...


                          ...Regards...Norry...
   




                                       
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: andywright on November 11, 2006, 11:25:44 pm
Bought the hull and accessories! Just looking for a drawing of the latest wheelhouse style, will try Damen.
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: norry on November 12, 2006, 03:45:08 am
                ...Hi Andy...


I will try to get you some pictures of "BATTLER" which is based at Greenock on the Clyde...

That is the boat that mine is based on...

I will try to get down on monday or Tuesday...If you Private me your address I will post them to you...

               ...Best Regards...Norry...
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: andywright on November 12, 2006, 05:20:24 pm
Your a gem Norrie, private on its way.
 I was in Holyhead a fortnight ago on my ship, and the new 1906 Valiant 'B' from Falmouth was there, but I couldn't get through the damn security gate to get on board, apparently she is on charter to Stena to assist docking in bad weather. We had deadlines to keep to so couldn't stop.
The only trouble with a model of her is she is cutaway on the stern, this model is small enough with out having cutaway bulwarks. And she has two gates one in each side amidships.
Andy
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: Channel on November 27, 2006, 05:53:31 pm
Hi Andy,

Valiant B is in Holyhead for a few months - I may be crewing her at some stage!

I hope to have a sunday morning free soon to come down to Cold Knap . . . .

Cheers
Chris
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: andywright on November 27, 2006, 06:51:34 pm
Chris,
Hopefully the weather will be better this Sunday, I should be there.
I had read in Maritime Journal that the Valiant B is in Holyhead for a while. Some internal pics would be nice, wheelhouse especially.
Andy
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: Channel on November 27, 2006, 08:38:01 pm
Hi Andy,

Won't make it this sunday, maybe the following though. I've only got 1 tug up and running just now, have a model slipway Gry Maritha which s nice to tow.

Valiant B has been joined in the Plantain fleet by DMS Heron - not named MTS Valour. She is currently on passage from Damen's yard to Portsmouth as I understand it. I was offered to join her on her maiden voyage but sadly was moving house last weekend so couldn;t anage to get away :-(


Cheers
Chris

ps - do you know Dan Brown ? I was speaking to him a few months ago, said he was thinking of building a model of Portgarth.
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: norry on November 28, 2006, 09:14:50 am
    ...Hi Guys...

Here are a couple of pictures of my Damen Stan Tug 1906 in 1/32 scale...It is now Wee Johnny,s Tug Towing Boat...This is the first Damen that I built about 5 years ago...I swapped for another boat Last Year then bought it back again later to stop Johnny from moaning at me...I have been planning on building a new detailed wheelhouse for it but i seem to have lost my round tuit somewhere...
I hope you like them...Best Regards...Norry...By The Way... Its my Birthday Today so I can post what I like...
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: andywright on November 28, 2006, 06:51:53 pm
Channel,
I know Dan well, he still hasn't got a model.

Happy birthday Norry. got my 1906 today, prop shafts in tonight I hope.
Andy
Title: Re: Model DAMEN STAN TUG 1906 in 1/24 Scale...
Post by: Channel on November 28, 2006, 08:50:21 pm
Andy,

Are you basing your 1906 on one in service or finishing in your own colours ?

Not sure if you know but the 1906 is being replaced by the 1907 this year, deckhouse is slightly different. Think Valiant B was the last 1906 to be built.

If the weather is good on Sunday I may call down to Cold Knap, what time do you meet ?

Regards
Chris