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Title: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 15, 2009, 07:10:27 pm
Evening All,

Last week i finally found the boat for me after 6 months of looking. I spotted this model on ebay and i just knew this was the one. I help run the Fleetwood Maritime Heritage Trust websites so with this being a model of a Fleetwood Steam Trawler it was perfect.

I picked her up today and decided to share some images with you all.

Stats
Length: 58"
Height: ( keel mast tips) 23  1/2"
Beam: 9  1/2"

Images - Fairly Large Images ** SORRY **
(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/1.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/2.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/3.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/4.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/5.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/6.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/7.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/8.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/9.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/10.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/11.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/12.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/13.JPG)

All comments welcome.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 15, 2009, 10:33:15 pm
Hy Alan
I have on of these, and so does my mate on this forum (Tug Kenny) they really do make a lovely model and yours is looking like a nice job. It will make a great exhibit in the Maritime Trust.
 Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: nhp651 on May 16, 2009, 10:26:38 am
so when are you going down the lake, Alan. I was down on thursday..now where to be seen my lad. come on get her bum wet. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 16, 2009, 10:38:21 am

I didn't want to say, as yours is much better than mine. Excellent model you have there with attention to detail.  :-))   

ken
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 16, 2009, 02:40:43 pm
Thanks for the replies Guys. Im over the moon with the workmanship of the builder he really has done a great job.

nhpb, i plan on taking her to the boat house tomorrow to check the ballast is set right. Then if the weather allows i might get her on the lake.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: nhp651 on May 16, 2009, 03:25:18 pm
i'll come down and have a look, allan,
weather permitting. if it,s decent, i'll bring the lifeboat.
see ya there, neil, :-))
i presume it'll be am before the wind gets up. %% %% {:-{ {:-{
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 16, 2009, 05:05:47 pm
Hopefully be at the boat house about 10:30 or 11.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 17, 2009, 12:23:00 pm
Got her in the tank just 1 small piece of lead needed on the port side to level her up. To windy to get her in the water but as soon as weather allows ill get her in.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: nhp651 on May 17, 2009, 01:19:39 pm
i got down there at about 11.15am, and the boat house was locked up,
 just 3 guys sailing mustangs. so went to the ice cream parlour instead.
will watch out for you later. neil. :-))
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 17, 2009, 01:21:43 pm
We left just after 11 shame we missed each other. Let me know when you plan on going down ill see if can get down aswell.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: nhp651 on May 17, 2009, 10:04:16 pm
will do, alan,  :-))
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: ZZ56 on May 17, 2009, 11:04:34 pm
That's an amazing model.  I was originally going to build one of these as my great uncle was master of the Acadia Seahawk (ex Boston Firefly)  but the cost of shipping a hulll from the UK to Canada would've required a loan from the World Bank! 
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 18, 2009, 08:44:04 am
We have some nice information on the trust site for the Seahawk.

http://www.fleetwood-fishing-industry.co.uk/2008/10/mv-boston-firefly-fd182/
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 18, 2009, 07:51:15 pm
Evening All.

When i first looked at this model i knew the paint was wrong and would need to be sorted out. I will try to explain using photos.

Here is the vessel as she is now.
The black paint on her near the middle rails is way to thin.

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/full.JPG)

I think it should be more like this.
I have outlined the area that i believe would need painting in.

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/full-paint-red.jpg)

On this one is without the outline.
This is done using photoshop as to try and get an idea if this would be more in keeping with the way they was painted. The lines would be smoother as you know.

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/full-paint.jpg)

And Taped as a Visual test.
(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/taped.JPG)

All comments welcome.


Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: nhp651 on May 18, 2009, 08:15:38 pm
i would say your photoshop is much nearer the mark, alan. :-))
water lines on fleetwood trawlers were never straight either. they used to dip down slightly towards the keel at the for and aft ends anyway.
neil.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 18, 2009, 08:22:15 pm
Thats what i thought. Ill have to pluck up the courage now to get the paint out !
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 18, 2009, 08:27:12 pm
Hi Alan

Here is a snapshot of my Boston. The black area seems larger than yours.?

I took the lines direct from the drawings and know no diferrent. I've never seen the real boat so couldn't realy argue.

Because the bow is curved, the black area gives the illusion of rising to the Bow. Is this what you noticed?

ken

Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 18, 2009, 08:40:52 pm
Hi Alan

Here is a snapshot of my Boston. The black area seems larger than yours.?

I took the lines direct from the drawings and know no diferrent. I've never seen the real boat so couldn't realy argue.

Because the bow is curved, the black area gives the illusion of rising to the Bow. Is this what you noticed?

ken



The black is larger and i would say yours is right Ken.

As Neil said they did slightly go up at both ends and i do agree the the eye makes it look more.

Here is a photo on the Boat docked up. You can see her lines look nearly straight but they would have slightly gone up.
(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/Boston_Typhoon-FD272.jpg)
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 18, 2009, 11:30:17 pm
Hy Guys
Here,s mine, showing the waterline but before the rigging ect was completed.
Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 18, 2009, 11:49:12 pm
Do you have a pic from more of a side angle bosun ?
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: ZZ56 on May 19, 2009, 12:38:32 am
We have some nice information on the trust site for the Seahawk.

http://www.fleetwood-fishing-industry.co.uk/2008/10/mv-boston-firefly-fd182/


Thank you so much Alan. 

My grandmother had a picture of her as the Seahawk, but it's gone missing since she's moved.  If i can find it, i'll scan it and send it to the trust site.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 19, 2009, 07:54:54 am
Hy Alan
RE...side on pic   of Boston Typhoon, I have'nt got one at the moment, but I can take one a little later today when I find the Camera, and then post it for you.
Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 19, 2009, 08:07:26 am
Hy Alan
RE...side on pic   of Boston Typhoon, I have'nt got one at the moment, but I can take one a little later today when I find the Camera, and then post it for you.
Bosun

Cheers Bosun.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 19, 2009, 08:08:01 am
Hy Alan
RE...side on pic   of Boston Typhoon, I have'nt got one at the moment, but I can take one a little later today when I find the Camera, and then post it for you.
Bosun

That would be great.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: DickyD on May 19, 2009, 09:41:23 am
Hi Alan I had fun doing the waterline on my Milford Star because of the optical illusion this type of hull produces.

Believe it or not, my waterline is dead straight and spot on.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 19, 2009, 10:35:55 am
Quote

Believe it or not, my waterline is dead straight and spot on.

Alan. Reference what Richard says above. The illusion would appear to be caused by the curvature of the deck, combined with the angle of the ship at the time of the picture and the position of the camera.

I would sugest widening the black band so that when in the water, all you see is black above the water line. (till she hits a wave!)

Hope this helps

ken


Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 19, 2009, 10:52:52 am
Cheers for the image dicky. Optical ollusions can drive a man insane.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 19, 2009, 09:18:42 pm
Well what an evening !

Managed to get her in the water tonight and DISASTER !

First off the prop shaft slipped from the motor so i had to get it tightened back up. Then in she went again.

Ran ok for 10 minutes then she lost all drive. Just a spinning motor. Luckily i was keeping her close to edge so i managed to get hold of her quickly. This time the propeller had worked lose and fell off !

So 2 mishaps but im not finished yet. Went home and replaced the propeller and headed back to the lake. Ran great for 30 minutes then again the prop shaft came off the motor.

So now i have just finished adjusting the motor alignment as i feel the motor was sat to far from the prop shaft and was allowing shaft connector to work loose and come off. So i have now moved the motor towards the shaft to cut down the movement.

Hopefully next time i get her in the water she will survive the trip !
 {-)

Oh and also had a small amount of water in the hell after finishing which i believe was being let in through the shaft. So to solve this i have covered then ends of the shaft in grease.

The builder only sailed her once so i guess im having his teething problems.

Ill let you all know how i get on next time she goes in.  :-))
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: nhp651 on May 19, 2009, 10:19:33 pm
ahhhh, the joys of model boat sailing, alan.
you're not alone by any means.
you can take consolation in that thought.
neil. :} %) %) %) <:(
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 19, 2009, 10:27:29 pm
Hy Alan
Sorry to hear about your problems, it's all sent to try us mate.
Any chance of some inside working pics, motor set up ect.
I managed to take a pic of my Boston as promised, as you can see there is no white boot line on the water line as I believe it was,nt done those days. However  I have seen quite a few with the white line following the run of the Gunwhale/decking, and that would be running upward toward the bow, giving the illusion that the water line was indeed not straight. Hope this helps
Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 19, 2009, 11:06:44 pm
Thanks for the image bosun. The lines you have there look like i think they should be. Lovely looking model aswell.

Here are some images of the prop and motor coupling ( is that right ? ).

There is a gap of about 2mm from the locking nut to the hull so that allows a little movement. Was alot more before i moved the motor aft a little.
(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/prop.jpg)

Here is the motor and coupling to the shaft. You can see the coupling sat very close about 2mm from the motor casing. Before i moved the motor it was about 1cm. Also you can see the grease i have applied.
(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/motor.jpg)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/motor.jpg)

So by closing the gap and cutting down the movement between the coupling joining the motor i hope she will hold. All i can see happening is the coupling nut losing grip. Is there a better way to connect the 2 parts ?
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 20, 2009, 08:02:18 am
Hy Alan
I dont think that greasing the shaft as in the picture would do you any good, when the motor runs, centrifugal force will send the grease flying everywhere. Can you remove the motor and withdraw the shaft, then you can grease the tube useing a small syringe, you can also get a grease nipple that you clamp onto the stern tube, you will still have to withdraw the shaft to drill a small hole into the tube, but it is a relatively easy job. If you have a look at Cornwall Model Boats website , or give them a ring you will see that they supply them.
I would leave a small gap between the motor and coupling, in case of binding, but mainly make sure that the locking nuts on either end of the shaft are locked to the prop on the outside, and to the coupling on the inside.
Cheers
Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 20, 2009, 08:20:17 am
Good Morning Bosun.

Both nuts are locked of as you suggested now.

I will remove the grease and from the outside then remove the shaft and grease up the tube. When i get her back on the water i will let you know the outcome.

Thanks for all pointers. Noobies like me are very greatful.
 :-))

Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 20, 2009, 10:09:00 am
Hy Alan
Your Welcome, Keep in touch with your progress
Bosun :-))
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 20, 2009, 09:21:31 pm
Got her out again tonight but the coupling ended up coming loose again so the motor was just spinning free.

Whats the best way to secure the coupling ?

Some people say file a small flat face on the motor arm others say drill a hole through the coupling and motor arm and pin it.

What do you guys think ?

Cheers Alan

 :}

Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Stavros on May 20, 2009, 10:42:49 pm
File a flat on the motor thats what I do and dont get any probs.BUT are you sure it is the right size for the shaft of the motor ie not to big,it needs to be a snug fit to the shaft otherwise you get problems



Stav
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 20, 2009, 11:03:48 pm
Evening Stavros. Its a snug fit yes, i will try the file and if that fails ill have to try something else.

Cheers Alan
 :-))

Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: DickyD on May 21, 2009, 09:09:21 am
Hi Alan,as Stavros says, file a flat face on the motor spindle and the prop shaft and that should solve your problem.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 21, 2009, 10:54:20 am
Will do, i will let you know how i get on.

I got a video of her in the water yesterday. Ill get it uploaded asap.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 21, 2009, 06:45:07 pm
Here is is a link to the video from yesterday. I apologise about the camera being all over in parts but my Father is not the best camera man in the world  {-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhw9ceZZ7ek
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: DickyD on May 21, 2009, 06:54:25 pm
Very nice Alan though it does look as though it could do with a bit of rear end ballast to bring it nearer the waterline.

This will probably help if you sail in breezy weather,it will stop it heeling over to far.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 21, 2009, 07:09:26 pm
Hy Alan
Looking good mate, Dicky is right about the ballast, add a bit to the rear end. They do tend to keel over a bit on the turn, so keep the speed as close to scale, not to fast. It's lovely to hear all the family on the video, thats what it's all about, and dont forget to lower the black paint a bit nearer the waterline.
Nice one
Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 21, 2009, 07:17:18 pm
Yeh i have some lead ready to slot in next time im down the lake. I will get the painting done as soon as i pluck up the courage. Hehe

My daughter was the skipper that day :)
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 22, 2009, 08:02:20 pm
Evening all.

Ok i managed to file the motor arm down so i had a flat to stop the slipping. Also i added 2 small pieces of lead to the stern. I got her in the water again tonight and she ran great, NO BREAK DOWNS !!!

I took her all the way round the lake, if you know fleetwood lake you will know shes fairly big. Also ran her into the wind at variouse speeds to test the fixes i have applied and se held up great.

I managed to take a few snaps of her in the water aswell. Well 10 photos. Here we go.

I hope you dont mind the updates. If im bugging you all with this please tell me.  <*<

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail1.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail2.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail3.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail4.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail5.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail6.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail7.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail8.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail9.JPG)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model%20FD272/sail10.JPG)

I still think more ballast is needed in the stern. Thanks everyone for the help you have given me.

Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: DickyD on May 22, 2009, 08:15:51 pm
Not bugged at all Alan, glad she's fixed and sails OK.

Looks really good on the water. :-))
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 22, 2009, 08:19:48 pm
Cheers Dicky
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 22, 2009, 09:23:21 pm
Proper Job, Alan
Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 22, 2009, 09:49:29 pm
cheers
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: derekwarner on May 23, 2009, 12:45:00 am
Great model Alan.........& also great that the family are interested & involved :-))......I think your dad derserves a camera tripod for his birthday.......... O0 ....Derek
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: ronkh on May 23, 2009, 08:50:30 am
Alan,

Great thread and a lovely model. :-))
I doubt you were bugging anyone. Certainly not me.

Ron.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 23, 2009, 09:58:00 am
Great model Alan.........& also great that the family are interested & involved :-))......I think your dad derserves a camera tripod for his birthday.......... O0 ....Derek

Hello Derek, great idea on the present i could also burn this video to disk for him as an example why he needs it hehe.

Alan,

Great thread and a lovely model. :-))
I doubt you were bugging anyone. Certainly not me.

Ron.

Thanks Ron.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: DickyD on May 23, 2009, 10:58:13 am
Alan I just had a look at a photo of the real Boston Typhoon and your water line is definitely to high and you could do with slightly more ballast.

http://float-trawlers.lancashire.gov.uk/image.php?i=6029&r=2&t=4&x=1

Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 23, 2009, 02:58:42 pm
Hello Dicky, the black needs to come down to the 2nd rib.

The image you show there is of the 2nd FD registered Typhoon (motor).
From our trust site, http://www.fleetwood-fishing-industry.co.uk/2008/10/mv-boston-typhoon-fd183/

Did you see the image i posted of the FD272 Typhoon (steamer) on the previous page ?
From our trust site, http://www.fleetwood-trawlers.info/index.php/2008/12/boston-typhoon-fd272/
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: DickyD on May 23, 2009, 05:26:42 pm
Hi Alan there is no image on that link and if you do a search it still comes up "no image".
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 23, 2009, 05:31:03 pm
Hi Alan there is no image on that link and if you do a search it still comes up "no image".

Image not added yet.

Here it is.

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/Boston_Typhoon-FD272.jpg)
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bulerthebishop on May 26, 2009, 12:47:06 pm
Some excellent pics of the 'Typhoon' on in this thread guys.  Can't take the credit for the condition of mine tho, bought it as it is (Ebay), just tidied up the rigging.  It's a well 'weathered' example as you can see from the pics.  
(http://www.postimage.org/aVwCqVS.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVwCqVS)

(http://www.postimage.org/aVwD6ki.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVwD6ki)

(http://www.postimage.org/PqNa5ZA.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqNa5ZA)

(http://www.postimage.org/gx1gFQKS.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1gFQKS)

(http://www.postimage.org/PqNaTSr.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqNaTSr)

(http://www.postimage.org/PqNbzgS.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=PqNbzgS)

(http://www.postimage.org/aVwGvQA.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVwGvQA)
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 26, 2009, 01:03:43 pm
Very Nice  O0
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bulerthebishop on May 26, 2009, 01:31:33 pm
How about a  weekend 'Typhoon' Convention, in Fleetwood perhaps.  :}
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 26, 2009, 01:34:01 pm
IM IN  :-))

Seriously i am.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bulerthebishop on May 26, 2009, 01:54:30 pm
I am a newbie to this site but I see quite an interest in the Boston Typhoon model.  It wouldn't be too difficult to arrange a date to get Typhoon owners together to sail and discuss the model, I am sure we will all learn something from others.  Fleetwood being the obvious place.  Is anyone connected with model boating in fleetwood prepared to comment on sailing facilities?  Perhaps late summer or autumn would be a good time. I am sure we could get a bit of coverage in at least one of the model mags.  What do you think people? 
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 26, 2009, 02:27:17 pm
Im a member of the Fleetwood Club.

Anytime time of the year from now is good. The lake gets busy from around 13:00 onwards but there is always plenty of room.

Also im sure we could use the facilities at the club for a brew and sit down.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bulerthebishop on May 26, 2009, 03:02:13 pm
Thanks Alan, any one else interested?
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 26, 2009, 03:30:04 pm
Hy Guys
Could combine the two Blackpool Model Boat Show, and a sail in at Fleetwood around about October.
Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 26, 2009, 05:22:04 pm
Thats good for me. But my Typhoon might be on the Fleetwood Stall.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: polobeer on May 26, 2009, 06:34:58 pm
Alan,

Your "Boston Typhoon" is one of the most atmospheric RC vessels I've seen - anywhere! Such an elegant design. I particularly liked the views of the model on the water. Great stuff...

All the best
Simon  ok2
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 26, 2009, 06:56:24 pm
Cheers Simon, whats the vessel in your Avatar ?
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: polobeer on May 26, 2009, 07:06:46 pm
Hello Alan!

The model in the avatar is my Mountfleet Models Admiralty Coaster named "John Masefield" sailing on a lake in the Forest of Dean!

All the best
Simon  %)
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 26, 2009, 07:12:13 pm
Is there any images posted of mayhem of her ?
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: polobeer on May 26, 2009, 08:09:19 pm
Hello Alan,

Yup! Here is the link:- http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4763.0

All the best
Simon  :-)
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 26, 2009, 08:15:55 pm
Thanks simon. She looks amazing.  :-))
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: polobeer on May 26, 2009, 08:18:32 pm
Cheers Alan, and thanks for reminding me! I had completely forgotten that I'd posted these pictures...

All the best
Simon  :-))
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 27, 2009, 10:58:35 pm
Evening All, im going to have to paint the hull with black to the 2nd rib and was wondering what paint to go for. It looks like a gloss paint that has been used painted or sprayed im unsure.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on May 27, 2009, 11:51:11 pm
Hy Alan
Personally I would'nt go for gloss, go for black satin, and then you can give a coat of satin varnish after it has all dried, brush useing a good quality sable or similiar brush.
Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 28, 2009, 07:46:43 am
Thanks for the help bosun.  :-))
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 29, 2009, 09:27:01 pm
Evening All,

Beautiful evening today so i decided to nip down the lake and have a sail. Everything went to plan no breakdowns.

Thanks to everyone for all the help and tips given to me in this thread.

A few more pics for you all from this evening.

And again thanks for all the help.  :-))

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/sail11.jpg)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/sail12.jpg)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/sail13.jpg)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/sail14.jpg)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/sail15.jpg)
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: derekwarner on May 30, 2009, 12:46:30 am
Alan...excellent photography here  :-)) .....Derek
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: ronkh on May 30, 2009, 06:34:02 am
I agree. Very nice.   :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: derekwarner on May 30, 2009, 08:32:55 am
Alan.....your .jpg could be considered as a good contender for the Model Boats photography contest prize..........see the postings under seperate cover @ Mayhem .......Derek  :-))
...

"Website Photographic Competition Summer 2009.

Paul Freshney and I have been giving some thought to having a Website Competition for registered members. We did not just want to have a simple lottery but something which would showcase the best of model boat building and stimulate discussion on the Forum which we can all learn and benefit from. So, after a bit of head scratching, we have decided to have a photographic competition. Most people have access to a digital camera these days so just about anyone who wishes should be able to enter.

The twist will be that the winning photograph will be the one which looks most like a real ship as opposed to a model!

Closing date for entries will be Friday 31st July 2009 and the winners will be announced shortly afterwards.

 
So just start posting your photos below and good luck!"
 
Colin Bishop
Website Editor
 
 
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 30, 2009, 10:48:45 am
Thanks Guys for the comments, Derek i have looked for the competition but cannot find it. Would you be able to point me in the right direction and ill submit the image.

Thanks
Alan
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: DavieTait on May 30, 2009, 11:16:01 am
http://www.modelboats.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=28197

That's it Alan
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on May 30, 2009, 07:27:10 pm
Thanks i have submitted the photo.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 01, 2009, 12:21:38 am
hi alan and the rest of you bt fans,
watched both these models go for grabs on ebay and hey did you to lads get a bargen.
Ok  who i am i, my names Poul and i live in Immingham one of the lagest ports in uk but more to the point i lived in Grimsby and my dad was the danish interpenter for all the snibbys that use to dock there. ( got a model of one of these) I remember my uncle was the skipper of a few trawlers, so fishing is in my blood. so when i decided to get back into model boating what did i want to build. YEPP the bigest trawler i could find. So a big thanks gose to mountfleet models (www.mountfleetmodels.co.uk/boston-typhoon.htm) for giving us boat builder a great model. iam in the first stages of building the BT. Took me ages to glue down rhe main deck and the well deck, this being i needed to get the water line right with the ballest. .Even brought a great big paddling pool  to test the ballest out. now the grandkids love me im no longer grumpy gramps but captain gramps. love all the photos posted here gives me lots of idea how my BT will look when finished, keep up the thread cos it certainly help me on building mine . just a thought how much weight have you added for balast  alot of mine is removable poul,
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on June 01, 2009, 08:45:57 am
Im unsure on the weight. I know there is an old 6v battery in there and 13 small pieces of lead if i can get them out i will weigh them and let you know.

Kepp us posted on your build.

 :-))

Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bulerthebishop on June 01, 2009, 01:07:02 pm
My Typhoon has 3 12v batteries, one for power the other two for ballast.  It also has a couple of pounds of lead shot directly under the prop shaft in a 'poly' bag. 
(http://www.postimage.org/gx1wa6Yr.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1wa6Yr)

(http://www.postimage.org/aV11b5bi.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV11b5bi)

It could come down a bit in the water, or could it?, comments welcome
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 01, 2009, 04:28:59 pm
hi brian
like the the washing hanging out to dry nice touch there brian. plus good weathering on yours.

I have lead lined the bottom of mine with lead an then i have some lead pipeing that i have flattered and shaped. so i can slide them in and out of the boat. will get some photos on ASP.


poul
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 01, 2009, 08:23:00 pm
my BT at present
bt1 taking shape
bt2 1st sea trials
bt3 2nd sea trails finding the water line
bt4 removable lead balast lay out
bt winch ready for painting
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on June 01, 2009, 10:32:30 pm
Looking great Poul keep us posted on your progress
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 05, 2009, 07:31:59 pm
hi alan
just fitted all the bulk walks on the main deck and now comming up tp the well deck.
could do with a couple of close up pics of your well deck to get the feeling as how all the scupper plates and the shroud plates lay. theres not much refrence to the well deck in the manual.
cheers poul
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on June 05, 2009, 08:40:44 pm
Hello Poul,

All my scuppers are sealed shut. Here are some images. Hope they help.
(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/scup2.jpg)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/scup1.jpg)

(http://www.webinventions.co.uk/misc/Model FD272/scup3.jpg)
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 06, 2009, 10:55:50 am
hi alan
it was the scupper plates in the well deck the ones that have the holes in them do they lay on top of the decking. the other one is the shrooud spacer bars for the rigging how was it fitted to the side . dose it look like the side was drilled and the shroud fitted or just glued by the two pins
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on June 06, 2009, 12:10:56 pm
They just sit on the decking.

For the spacer bars it doesnt seem any drilling was done so i expect they was just glued.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bulerthebishop on June 06, 2009, 07:36:41 pm
The scuppers on my Typhoon are open, usefull for letting any splash water on deck escape.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 09, 2009, 08:37:47 pm
hi alan
got the butt straps sorted now.
 just trying to get the fore castle some where near then i can spray the black on
 and get cracking with the houseing
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on June 09, 2009, 08:42:55 pm
Thanks for the update Poul, she is looking great. I see you have mounted a speaker in the bow aswell :)

Are you going to add a smoke unit ?
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 10, 2009, 12:33:46 am
hi alan
yes got the smoke gen and the steam sound system and the motor and the speed controler last month.
also looking if i can use a mp3 play though the speaker, then go down to grimsby docks and get  the seagulls sqauking
now that would be an nice sound as she sails pass you.
what size lettering has been used on yours will order mine from cornwall modling also get the viiynal white strip
poul
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on June 10, 2009, 08:12:41 am
I will let you know this evening Poul when i get home from work.

What type of smoke unit have you got ?
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 10, 2009, 05:45:43 pm
hi alan
got the 12v graupner for it also put one in this but havent tried it out doors yet
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on June 10, 2009, 06:57:20 pm
Evening Poul,

The lettering is half a centimetre in width and just over half a centimetre in height.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 12, 2009, 05:48:15 pm
hi alan
today got the boat sprayed. i see early on in the thread  brain and your self was wondering about your water lines.
on my plans the water line is 3" down from the stern and 5 1/2" inches down from the bow.
just waiting for the paint to dry out now.
is yours just red oxide red on the bottom  been varnished or has it been sprayed red paint ?.
 poul
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bulerthebishop on June 12, 2009, 06:14:32 pm
Poul,  my Tyhoon's waterline is 4 1/2" down from the bow and 3" from the stern.  Red Oxide has not been varnished, red oxide primer is the nearest I can think off to the colour used on the real thing.  You might have to decide if you want the waterline to show the boat with a full hold of fish, or running light on it's way to the fishing grounds. There are some good pics on www.hulltrawler.net of boats returning from the fishing grounds (good close-up of Arctic Invader docking) so you can judge where waterline should be.   
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on June 12, 2009, 07:00:31 pm
Hello Poul its red oxide but not varnished. It doesnt seem so anyway,
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: bosun on June 12, 2009, 08:08:23 pm
Hy Guys
Just an observation, but I would recomend you spray varnish the red oxide as it is,nt a waterproof paint, it also gives a little protection when you get the inevitable odd scratch or two.
 Cheers Bosun
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on June 13, 2009, 06:59:44 pm
hi alan
up date for this weekend.
I have order the vinyl lettering and white stripe from cornwall's there was only 4mm or 6mm so gone for the 6mm.
thanks for that tip bosun have used halfords red oxide and satin black also got a tin of there clear varnish as i wanted to at leaset
spray the lettering. found some paint on wood that used many years ago. going to do the main hosing in this as like the mountfield pic.
i'll do some test see how it looks.
well time for a beer catch you lads later
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on June 13, 2009, 07:17:55 pm
Poul shes looking great.

Thanks for keeping us posted.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Poul on July 06, 2009, 06:34:01 pm
hi alan
seem ages since my last post. been busy on the BT here hows shes looking today
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Alan Duggan on July 07, 2009, 08:14:50 am
she looks great. you are doing a grand job poul.
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: silurian on May 25, 2010, 05:07:07 pm
I will soon start building a model of Boston Typhoon at a scale of 1/70  wood hull fibre glass inside
Can any one suggest what size electric motor and propeller I will need. I am not looking for high performance
I have not built an electric powered boat for some years. I have control devices but have completely forgotten how to use them.  I am OK on R/C
Silurian
Title: Re: Boston Typhoon FD272
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on May 25, 2010, 10:00:25 pm

Hi Silurian

Welcome to ModelboatMahem. Here you will find a very helpful group of like minded people who can help you with your boating queries.

I have built the Boston but at a scale of 1:32.  As she is not a 'speedy' boat, I would agree with you that power before speed is the best approach.  The ideal motor might be a 545. This has many poles and will travel slowly but has the power to move her gracefully thought the water.  As to the Prop size, then I can only guess as to which one to use. You may like to start of with a 45mm diameter if you can get it under the hull.

You may also like to post your own blog on this site and don't forget that we like loads of pictures.

Hope this helps,

Ken