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Mess Deck: General Section => Tugs and Towing => Topic started by: tubby tomo on June 03, 2009, 09:15:17 pm

Title: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: tubby tomo on June 03, 2009, 09:15:17 pm
hi all i wonder how many members have pusher tugs i don't see many pictures of them as models so I'm showing my one hoping i see more
(http://www.postimage.org/gx1CWLSS.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)
 :-))
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: jenno on June 03, 2009, 09:45:39 pm
Hi Tomo 1,
                   I've built the American Beauty with 4 Barges (with another 2 on the way) making her 15' long.


                         Mark.
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: warspite on June 03, 2009, 10:00:14 pm
 :D WHAT - sacraildge (spelt somthing like that) have you not seen the light and viewed the springers, they,  that push pull shove kick the h**l out of everything else on the water - where have you been  {-)

I always thought that these boats were the basis for the springers
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: towboatjoe on June 03, 2009, 10:42:22 pm
:D WHAT - sacraildge (spelt somthing like that) have you not seen the light and viewed the springers, they,  that push pull shove kick the h**l out of everything else on the water - where have you been  {-)

I always thought that these boats were the basis for the springers

The hull design were for small truckable push boats used to move barges in a work area. Here's a photo of one.
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: towboatjoe on June 03, 2009, 10:46:01 pm
Speaking of models Here's one of mine and you can view many more of my creations at http://www.towboatjoe.com
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: portside II on June 03, 2009, 10:46:19 pm
Q Whats the difference between a pusher tug and a springer ?
A a pusher tug is a mansion ,where as a springer is a bed-sit  {-).
daz
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: portside II on June 03, 2009, 10:49:29 pm
thats a great boat there Joe , i would love one of the vacu-boat kits , but the postage would make to kit expensive.
daz
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: towboatjoe on June 03, 2009, 10:50:21 pm
I thought I might add a couple more of the American Viking
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: towboatjoe on June 03, 2009, 10:52:41 pm
thats a great boat there Joe , i would love one of the vacu-boat kits , but the postage would make to kit expensive.
daz

They are some nice boats. I've got one that I detailed and named after the owner Phil Pace. I'm also working on a twin screw version.
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: towboatjoe on June 03, 2009, 11:08:36 pm
Wow, could this be jenno's American Beauty passing the Tennessee River just above Paducah, Kentucky?
Jenno if you want to try your luck at fiberglass lids for the barges, I have some drawings and photos you can work with.
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: warspite on June 03, 2009, 11:18:22 pm


The hull design were for small truckable push boats used to move barges in a work area. Here's a photo of one.

That one looks like the wimbledon tennis version or the olimpic high diver version - i their rubbish, :-)) show them how to dive 
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: tubby tomo on June 04, 2009, 06:21:17 am
hi all mark what a lovely boat very nice barges from the picture she looks like the real thing  yes tow boat Joe another fine model Ive often visited tow boat Joe's web site you can spend hours on there  mark did you put all the rudders on silly question
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: destroyer42 on June 04, 2009, 07:30:10 pm
This is a photograph of my towboat. On its maiden voyage
(http://www.postimage.org/aV1jYId0.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1jYId0)
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: destroyer42 on June 04, 2009, 07:41:14 pm
Hi Fellow Mayhemer's
Have Just finished this towboat. She has Six working rudders 106mm props in kort nozzels at a scale of 1/32 making it 40inches long by 14inch beam. Bollard pull of 12lbs. All the lights, radar and deck winches are fully working.
I can post some of the build photos if anyone is interested.
destroyer 42
(http://www.postimage.org/Pq1ITIgr.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1ITIgr)
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: tubby tomo on June 04, 2009, 07:50:39 pm
hi d 42 yes i would like to see your build pics always interested in another modelers work Ive got 6 rudders on my tow boat fantastic when you go astern look forward to seeing pics  Tomo
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: destroyer42 on June 04, 2009, 07:54:03 pm
Hi All,
Another picture.
(http://www.postimage.org/gx1FmPY9.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gx1FmPY9)
Destroyer42
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: portside II on June 05, 2009, 12:26:56 am
Oh yes Destroyer42 you have to post a build , i for one would love to see how it's done the hull looks great.
daz
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: destroyer42 on June 05, 2009, 04:42:53 pm
Hi Portside11,
Here we go the start of the build. I had no plans just photoghraphs and the internet and Towboat joe's website.
(http://www.postimage.org/Pq1O10Z0.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1O10Z0)
destroyer 42
(http://www.postimage.org/aV1ow4Ii.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1ow4Ii)
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: destroyer42 on June 05, 2009, 04:48:20 pm
Hi Some More
(http://www.postimage.org/Pq1O3Q49.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1O3Q49)

(http://www.postimage.org/Pq1O491i.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1O491i)
Destroyer42
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: portside II on June 05, 2009, 06:35:39 pm
Is that just balsa sheet on the hull , if so what thickness did you use? .And what are the measurments .
daz
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: destroyer42 on June 05, 2009, 07:35:40 pm
Hi Portside II,
The hull sides & frames are 4mm ply and the covering is 2mm ply all glued with alphatic glue then covered in fibreglass. the deck is 4mm again covered in glass fibre. The superstructure is a mix of 3mm, 2mm & 1mm plasticard.
Destroyer42
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: destroyer42 on June 05, 2009, 07:48:09 pm
portside II,
Forgot to mention the size of the towboat is 40inches X 14inches 1/32 scale. the weight without batteries is 33lbs, With batteries 2 12v 12amp hrs she weight about 48lbs.
However she is not a problem to launch single handed. Hull in the water first then batteries then superstructure. She has working radar, lights & winches all controlled from F14 navy with Action P94 twin ESC, Action distribution board, action switcher & Action slow speed for the 2 geared motors for the winches. Main motors are MMB 900 driving 2 106mm 5 bladed props  in 110 mm Kort nozzles. She has 2 main rudders and 4 backing rudders 6 in all. These perform just like the real thing.
Destroyer 42
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: portside II on June 05, 2009, 10:22:45 pm
Ooh you have got me thinking about a build project, i think i will have to make a set of drawings up but i dont think i will be able to start a build until the winter.
daz
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: tubby tomo on June 22, 2009, 05:29:21 pm
 {:-{hi I'm going to bring up a subject that's been on here before about three props what prop goes in the middle RH-LH
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: destroyer42 on June 22, 2009, 07:12:42 pm
Hi Tomo1,
Have a look at this site. This will give you the answers.
http://oldriverbillzumwalt.members.ktis.net/wheels_&_korts.
Destroyer 42
(http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6846/49766855.th.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxDOBS0)
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: portside II on June 22, 2009, 09:59:13 pm
Hi destroyer , tried the link but it was broken , but i know of the site so here is the link again.
http://oldriverbillzumwalt.members.ktis.net/wheels_&_korts.htm
daz
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: tubby tomo on June 24, 2009, 12:28:23 pm
hi thanks for info when 3 props are used you can use 2RH or2LH as manly used for more power when needed
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: bulerthebishop on June 24, 2009, 01:29:42 pm
{:-{hi I'm going to bring up a subject that's been on here before about three props what prop goes in the middle RH-LH
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/107/41680454.th.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1BbiP9)

This pic clarifies the direction of centre prop, at least on this tug, it is L/H same as port prop, but I am not sure it makes any difference!
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: tubby tomo on June 25, 2009, 01:27:40 pm
hi Brian what web site did you get pic from
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: bulerthebishop on June 25, 2009, 06:27:02 pm
hi Brian what web site did you get pic from

www.pousseurs.fr/    How's your French?  Mainly French Pushers, but German and Dutch too.  A good pic of Medart out of the water, gives good view of hull shape, click on links at left side .
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: portside II on June 26, 2009, 12:38:56 am
That's interesting Brian , on the photo of the pusher DECIDE out of the water shown from the stern , it clearly shows the twin kort's and the rudders , but it may be my eyes the korts look like they are steerable as well .
I have not seen this combination before , is it common on pusher tugs.
http://www.pousseurs.fr/cft_rhone/cft_decide.html     
its the bottom pic.
daz
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: bulerthebishop on June 26, 2009, 03:58:31 pm
That's interesting Brian , on the photo of the pusher DECIDE out of the water shown from the stern , it clearly shows the twin kort's and the rudders , but it may be my eyes the korts look like they are steerable as well .
I have not seen this combination before , is it common on pusher tugs.
http://www.pousseurs.fr/cft_rhone/cft_decide.html     
its the bottom pic.
daz
I don't think the Korts are steerable, the rudder shaft appears to go up through the hull, this would not allow the Kort to swivel.  The bottom forward edge of the rudder appears to be attached to the bottom of the Kort just for support.
(http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3285/31726549.th.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1xI2mr)
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: towboatjoe on June 26, 2009, 09:45:42 pm
It looks to me like straight shafts. I think what you see is the shaft supports going up to the hull. Here's what a typical tunnel stern with korts look like in the U.S.
Title: Re: pusher tugs or tow boat
Post by: portside II on June 26, 2009, 09:54:55 pm
Yep your right   :-)) the port kort looks like it is on an angle .
It's either my eyes or an optical illusion  %% .
daz