Is this one of yours too? :o - Can you get us more details please? http://www.askweb.ch/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=49
I'll split the topic once there is a reply....
Martin,
Is this another impulse buy off Ebay that you're trying to cover up? A futuristic tug maybe? What's "it" called? Don't tell me ... "Smit Zeppelin". {-) {-) {-)
Simon
Title: Future Liner?!
Post by: cos918 on September 28, 2009, 09:37:41 pm
Is this one of yours too? :o - Can you get us more details please? http://www.askweb.ch/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=49
I'll split the topic once there is a reply....
Martin were did you find this need to know more O0 O0 O0 O0
John
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: polobeer on September 28, 2009, 10:34:55 pm
How much are you asking for it? Does it have a bow thruster?
Simon {-)
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: cos918 on September 28, 2009, 10:38:50 pm
Simon you seen the size of the thing. It massive . Hit the link martin put up on the first post.
John
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: More Coffee on September 28, 2009, 11:50:58 pm
Its a boat its a plane ...Im confused ...do the seats act as life preserver's ...
Its different :-))...
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: sinjon on September 29, 2009, 02:41:34 pm
I used to work for Saunders Roe - it does look a tad familiar
Colin
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: BarryM on October 04, 2009, 02:33:40 pm
An ekranoplane with Dan Dare on the bridge?
Barry M
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: tweety777 on October 04, 2009, 03:54:33 pm
Seeing the fact that water is much heavier then air and the weight of the substance that is moved by a propeller is very important for its effeciency i can tell you this really won't be build in real. The idea is pretty cool however, but really not effecient.
Greetings Josse
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: Freighter130 on November 02, 2009, 07:41:00 am
Hello all,
This model is called 'Dolomedes' - the water spider. It was built by one of our best and very experienced modellers in our ship model club. It was designed and built all by himself over many years. It is built using wooden planks has a lot of electronics in it for prop control lights and in its latest state even with a small helicopter landing deck from which the taking of of the helicopter is simulated.
While our main club site (http://www.askweb.ch) is currently down due to a technical problem you may want to have a look at our video page. In the second part of the following movie you can see the Dolomedes sailing: http://www.youtube.com/user/RetoFor#p/u/10/reKF-XrW66o
Enjoy the other videos in our channel on YouTube too: http://www.youtube.com/user/RetoFor
Regards,
Freighter130
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: Freighter130 on November 02, 2009, 08:15:00 am
I just realised that the foto gallery is still running.
You'll find the gallery with a few thousand pictures here: http://www.askweb.ch/coppermine/index.php?cat=0
And the Dolomedes you can find here: http://www.askweb.ch/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=49&page=1 http://www.askweb.ch/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=49&page=2 http://www.askweb.ch/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=49&page=3 and even more here: http://www.askweb.ch/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=256&page=26
Have Fun!
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 10, 2011, 06:59:55 pm
Just saw her in YouTube!
http://youtu.be/AF4m1uJ_0RY
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: rathikrishna on December 28, 2011, 06:25:31 am
Martin sir..thanks for the extra ordinary idea.. :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Future Liner
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 30, 2012, 08:34:27 pm
10p to the first person to find a modern version of this model here on Mayhem... I know it's on here somewhere! >:-o
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: grub on August 31, 2012, 04:21:16 am
So who's building one then? http://www.retronaut.co/2011/09/abandoned-ekranoplan/
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: Colin Bishop on August 31, 2012, 10:12:35 am
There is an article by Ashley Needham on building a military version of the Ecranoplan on the Model Boats website: http://www.modelboats.co.uk/news/article/the-caspian-sea-monster-ecranoplan-orlyonok-a90/8657
I saw it in action a couple of weeks ago and it performs very well.
Colin
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on November 12, 2012, 09:05:55 pm
"Build : 2010 by Kyokuyo Shipyard Corporation – Shimonoseki in Japan, nr 493
While busy restoring all the lost links to the pictures on the rest of the website I kept stumbling over pictures of this vessel and while I initially decided to first finish that hugh job of restoring the inspiration was held back by nothing so I just had to write something about her."
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 13, 2012, 09:48:35 am
Well there's a change in design if ever I saw one. Rather like an umbrella in a storm to push forward eh !
ken
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: sailorboy61 on November 13, 2012, 10:28:13 am
Still not going to help much with the windage and leeway on these things!
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: Bob K on November 13, 2012, 11:01:52 am
Maybe a silly question, but when people make models of liners they tend to be so top heavy and unstable it usually involves a massive keel with a lot of lead at the end. They also tend to roll badly and get blown around with the wind.
If model liners behave like this, how safe are full size cruise liners in any kind of seaway ?
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: AlanT on November 13, 2012, 11:14:03 am
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 14, 2012, 12:19:06 pm
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If model liners behave like this, how safe are full size cruise liners in any kind of seaway ?
You can't really make comparisons because of scaling effects. If a model liner was truly to scale you would be making the upperworks paper thin for example. Plus of course the windage on a model is proportionately much greater that on a full size vessel. That's why model sailing ships also need disproportionately heavy keels to carry scale looking sailplans.
When you scale down, the volume decreases by the cube root while the area decreases only by the square root.
Colin
Title: Re: Future Liner?!
Post by: malcolmfrary on November 14, 2012, 11:24:16 pm
Much as Colin said, but the scale effect of wind speed is proportional to the square root of the scale because of the area effect mentioned, so yachts, liners and aircraft carriers all have the same problem. Of course, on a model liner, you don't have to install all of the upper deck interior works. But some will try, and will learn of "loll". For the real future liner, anybody remember what I recall as the opening page of an early "Lion" comic? It involved what looked to be a low flying ocean liner (mid '50's, airliners not yet that practical) meeting a sticky end, flying lifeboats hither and yon, and I can't remember the name of the hero Captain even for cake, but the arch villain was "The Dictator". Looked a lot like my last primary school teacher.
Title: Re: Future Liner
Post by: Martin (Admin) on September 21, 2020, 05:11:49 am
This topic popped up on Facebook again.... I wonder where the model is now?
This model is called 'Dolomedes' - the water spider. It was built by one of our best and very experienced modellers in our ship model club. It was designed and built all by himself over many years. It is built using wooden planks has a lot of electronics in it for prop control lights and in its latest state even with a small helicopter landing deck from which the taking of of the helicopter is simulated.
While our main club site (http://www.askweb.ch) is currently down due to a technical problem you may want to have a look at our video page. In the second part of the following movie you can see the Dolomedes sailing: http://www.youtube.com/user/RetoFor#p/u/10/reKF-XrW66o
Enjoy the other videos in our channel on YouTube too: http://www.youtube.com/user/RetoFor