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Title: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: shıp110 on October 25, 2009, 05:00:48 PM
I started to be built beginning this year models pictures of tugboats Klimek would like to share with you
I have plans downloaded from this link
www.freeshipplans.com/free_model_tugboat_plans.html
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: shıp110 on October 25, 2009, 05:10:12 PM
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/hasan110/klm7.jpg)
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: shıp110 on October 25, 2009, 05:12:43 PM
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/hasan110/klm14.jpg)

Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: tugnut on October 25, 2009, 05:26:24 PM
That looks a neet build i like the way you hold the keel in place O0.
 Regards John B
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: shıp110 on October 25, 2009, 05:30:41 PM
model's body ended coating

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/hasan110/klm21.jpg)

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/hasan110/klm29.jpg)
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: shıp110 on October 25, 2009, 05:39:22 PM
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/hasan110/16072009004.jpg)

central station and engine covers for ventilation or over

(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/hasan110/klm62.jpg)

I completed model primer

Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: shıp110 on October 25, 2009, 05:44:57 PM
Our model rc-controlled
(http://i1011.photobucket.com/albums/af234/hasan110/klimektekne.jpg)

this is our web site

www.elhobi.tr.gg
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: DickyD on October 25, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
Nice looking model. Looks well on the water.
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Steve Mahoney on October 29, 2009, 05:26:50 AM
You make it look so easy
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: shıp110 on October 30, 2009, 10:22:56 PM
model became new members to the forum site. When I look into the model. beautiful model requires a good plan

do not find a good plan.

Our model is simple.

I'm sorry I'm using google translate to english.

good works



Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: quixilver on January 15, 2010, 07:21:12 AM
Modeli ve isciliginizi cok begendim. Ucretsiz bir planla da daha  iyisi cikmazdi saniyorum..Tebrikler..

Good model and the wood art. I think not posiible to make better with a free plan..


Mehmet Icoz.
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Steve Mahoney on January 18, 2010, 12:57:07 AM
Totally agree with Quixilver.
Can we have some more photos of the finished model please.
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: KIWINB on April 28, 2011, 10:34:14 AM
I have built one also, Length 580mm, 4mmply frames planked with 10x2mm pine steamed to shape. Deck and Bulwarks from 0.8mm ply, Deckhouse from 2.5mm balsa. powered with a 12v motor from an old hairdryer on 8x 1.3AH nicads. All up weight 1.8Kg
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: KIWINB on May 07, 2011, 11:27:51 AM
And, under way.
(http://s2.postimage.org/1s026eqsk/P1040068_800x600.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1s026eqsk/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1s0ag3h9g/P1040066_800x600.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1s0ag3h9g/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1s0dr6690/P1040064_800x600.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1s0dr6690/)
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on May 13, 2011, 12:04:22 PM
Hi

I am new to this modelling thing and want to try to build a tug as well.   I am having problems to download the plans for the Klimek from the site as given above.  I get referred to another site which I have to log in with email etc but then it just hangs!  Can any one help?

Thanks

Marco
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: KIWINB on May 13, 2011, 07:14:48 PM
I can open the Freeship site ok, I've attached the plans as I downloaded them. Just note that the separate plans are not exactly to the same scale, check the drawing border size. I had to rescan 3, 4 and 6 by 102% to match the size of 1,2 and 5. The first plan is one I found somewhere, I rescanned it by 300% (in sections) and joined the new pages to make a working plan. The lines come out very jagged (the original is only 640 x 480 pixels) so some interpretation is needed to get them reasonably accurate. The shape for the bow bulwark is not correct (the front is too vertical), so make a new pattern with paper. The cabin parts are reasonably accurate. I also enlarged the deck detail sheets (5 and 6) by 185% to match the large plan to make the details.
The final result comes out looking very nice on the water. I did my doors and details on the superstructure with waterproof ink (looks ok as standoff scale!!).

Kevin
Auckland N.Z.
(http://s1.postimage.org/hjlmf3us/KLIMEK_plan_640x480.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hjlmf3us/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hjn9ygck/Plan_01.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hjn9ygck/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hjtw3ubo/Plan_02.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hjtw3ubo/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hjx76jb8/Plan_03.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hjx76jb8/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hk25sksk/Plan_04.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hk25sksk/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hk74em9w/Plan_05.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hk74em9w/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hkc30nr8/Plan_06.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hkc30nr8/)
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on May 18, 2011, 01:39:14 PM
Thanks for the response Kevin.

I have downloaded your files and will get a place that can get them to the right size and print them.  I actually want to practice on a easier model because I have no experience building a wooden model.  Is there someone that can point me to a place I can go read up on bending the wooden planking the right way?

I read about steaming and soaking but have not found a place that explains exactly how its done!

Marco
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: KIWINB on May 19, 2011, 10:47:35 AM
Marco, I would recommend you practice with making a hull from Balsa first. One of the construction pix I posted above shows the steamer I have, it is essentially a pressure boiler with a valve to release steam when required. Works a treat on pine, it becomes as soft as balsa!!.
Have a look at sailboat forums the RG65 class is a good one to search for construction with balsa planking. They don't have compound curves like the tug around the stern. The main thing is to take your time.
Try making the practice hull about 1/2 size (2mm formers and 1.5mm planking).  Dosn't use much wood then!!.
I used a waterproof glue called Gorilla glue from hardware stores. Aliphatic glue from hobby stores is ok also. Super glue is not the best to use as it is brittle when cured. (Although it can be used if the hull is to be fiberglassed afterwards).
A balsa hull that has a coat of fibreglass will be strong enough to stand up to most handling and sailing incidents.
A couple more pix of on the water,
(http://s4.postimage.org/8sgko8is/P1040100_1067x800_800x600.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8sgko8is/)

(http://s4.postimage.org/8sljaa04/P1040103_1067x800_800x600.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8sljaa04/)

(http://s4.postimage.org/8sqhwbhg/P1040106_1067x800_800x600.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8sqhwbhg/)
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: KIWINB on May 20, 2011, 12:04:03 PM
Marco, I found this on RC groups, how to build a hull     http://www.wmunderway.8m.com/cont/hullcont/hullcont.htm
A really good show and tell on hull building.

Kevin
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on May 20, 2011, 04:39:06 PM
Kevin

Thanks again!  I would not have noticed the scale difference in the pages if you did not mention it. The web site you gave regarding the building of a hull looks really promising.  I have saved and printed it for reading in bed!  (Next to wife who still has to be informed and still has to approve the building of a boat!).

Is it absolutely required to cover the balsa wood with fiber glass?  What if a harder wood is used?

Will post a picture of my previous project (Still not done!) of a Tamiya Tundra with some modifications.  Am i allowed to but a car on this site or only boats?

Regards

Marco
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: KIWINB on May 20, 2011, 09:04:01 PM
I used Pine to plank my Klimek, as I said in my original post. I had to steam soften the pine planks to bend them. The first photo shows the steamer I used. I only f/glass covered the balsa blocks I fitted to the Bow and Stern for impact strength.
I made a 1/9th scale balsa body of my mk2 MX5 to fit a Tamyia TL01 4WD chassis I had. I had a towbar on it at one time, so it could  ;) be used to tow a scale boat. (That sort of brings it into boat modelling). :-))
(http://s2.postimage.org/3j4ryx0k/143_4365_800x600.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3j4ryx0k/)
 Lots of free boat plans here  http://freeshipplans.blogspot.com/2008_06_01_archive.html

Kevin
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on May 22, 2011, 09:08:56 AM
Kevin

I think I will first try a simpler hull first with pine.  I will buy a steamer for curtains and modify it slightly.  When I get the hang of it I will try the Klimek at maybe even a bit bigger scale that suggested on the plans.  Here is my Tundra.  I also fitted a towbar to tow a trailer with another Tamiya on it.  The trailer is almost done after which I want to start on the first boat project.

Marco

(http://s4.postimage.org/1dgwyhiqs/DSCF0037_a.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1dgwyhiqs/)

(http://s4.postimage.org/1dh58697o/DSCF0040_a.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1dh58697o/)
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Zattera on October 08, 2012, 12:39:24 PM
Good afternoon
I am Antonio, I am writing from Italy.
I look a lot in internet, concerning this boat, a lot pictures, a lot web site, I think that shıp110 made the best model that I found, all particular made with good attentions and high precision.
I started the same model two years ago, after I stopped for some personal problems, now I like to continuous, I am not expert model marker, this is my first experiment :-)
In the begining I found only one drawing and only one picture in internet, I remade complete project in 3d file (for me it was easy because it was my job) and after I have started the construction.
I kindly ask, if you are helpful to answer on some questions that I found on this project.
My troubles concerning the details, the small parts that I will do for finishing this boat.
In the meantime, I am continuing with the wood parts
Thanks a lot
Antonio
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Tug-Kenny on October 08, 2012, 12:45:31 PM

Hello Antonio.  Welcome to mayhem.

Can you show a picture please as we might be able to help you if we knew the type of boat.

Your English is good but a few details are missing.   :}

regards

ken


Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Zattera on October 08, 2012, 02:43:50 PM
Hello Ken
Thanks a lot for your interest, my first message was general because I was not sure if someone be interested to my experience.
My model is Klimek tug, for this reason I wrote here, is only forums on the web concerning this boat, I saw the model from shıp110 and I think is made very well, I wrote to him, but at the moment he doesn't answer.
In this time I have two question:
1)How can I finish the surface on the main boat deck?  Only by painting? But is like really?
2)How can I finish inside the control room? The floor, the internal wall, I want to do the best internal design also if will not so visible.
I put the numbers on the pictures because is not easy know the technical words, I hope you can understand.
Antonio

(http://s12.postimage.org/yx9rp5uux/klimek_01.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yx9rp5uux/)
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on September 27, 2016, 01:36:20 PM
Hi All

I don't know if this thread is still active or looked at but I just wanted to post some pics of my first and second projects as mentioned above.

First boat (a cabin cruiser) is done and second one (The Klimek Tug) just started.

Marco
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on November 29, 2016, 01:15:47 PM
Just some progress pics...
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Fisherman on September 14, 2017, 10:57:03 AM
I can open the Freeship site ok, I've attached the plans as I downloaded them. Just note that the separate plans are not exactly to the same scale, check the drawing border size. I had to rescan 3, 4 and 6 by 102% to match the size of 1,2 and 5. The first plan is one I found somewhere, I re-scanned it by 300% (in sections) and joined the new pages to make a working plan. The lines come out very jagged (the original is only 640 x 480 pixels) so some interpretation is needed to get them reasonably accurate. The shape for the bow bulwark is not correct (the front is too vertical), so make a new pattern with paper. The cabin parts are reasonably accurate. I also enlarged the deck detail sheets (5 and 6) by 185% to match the large plan to make the details.
The final result comes out looking very nice on the water. I did my doors and details on the superstructure with waterproof ink (looks ok as standoff scale!!).


Hello Kevin, I have just joined the group and plan to build the Klimek Tug having previously built a Malaysian Coastal Patrol craft some years ago. I live in Christchurch and seek your advice on a a few questions to get me underway. Firstly, I have downloaded the plans and they are very difficult to read, so is there an easy way to overcome that or perhaps does anyone have more readable plans available? Re the scale it appears to be  9/16 t0 !", so I would need to enlarge the drawings by 1.8 (you also found this with your suggestion of +186%) and that may make them quite difficult to read the detail. If it helps let me know your phone number. Many thanks, Ron Parry

(http://s1.postimage.org/hjtw3ubo/Plan_02.jpg)pp (http://postimage.org/image/hjtw3ubo/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hjx76jb8/Plan_03.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hjx76jb8/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hk25sksk/Plan_04.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hk25sksk/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hk74em9w/Plan_05.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hk74em9w/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/hkc30nr8/Plan_06.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hkc30nr8/)
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Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on September 14, 2017, 02:12:05 PM
Hi Ron

If you are struggling I have done some work on this and have some combined plans in Coral draw format.  They are the same plans you have just combined and enlarged. My Klimek is approx one meter long and the drawings on Coral draw are 1:1 for that size.  Let me know if you want them.  Just send me your e mail.

Marco
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Fisherman on September 14, 2017, 08:58:36 PM
Hi Marco, yes I would appreciate a copy of them - thanks. You mention your Klimek photos in other messages but I couldn't see them so would appreciate having a look. Cheers
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on September 15, 2017, 07:42:01 AM
Morning from RSA

Please mail me at the address below and I will send the files to you. I can only see the images I posted if I am logged in.  Have tried to upload new ones now but it is asking me for a http:// location??

I can also send you some pics if you want to your email address.

Looks to me like something on this site has changed with uploading pictures? Maybe I am being dumb!

email=marco*********


Marco

It is not advisable to put your email on a live Forum.

To contact this member please click the name tab
ken
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Brian60 on September 15, 2017, 08:36:49 AM
Fisherman those plans above are just the kit builders drawings and as such you will struggle to build a boat from them. FOr instance to make the frames for the hull, you would need to know how to loft  lines from the drawing and really there are not enough lines shown. Not a easy job even for an experienced builder to do.

Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: tigertiger on September 16, 2017, 02:25:00 AM
***If members want to contact each other, and even exchange personal details, this can be done safely using the personal message system***


Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on September 18, 2017, 03:13:54 PM
Hi All

Am I correct in saying that no more pictures can be uploaded?

Brian 60--- I know very little about boats and building them but I have done the hull with only the plans as above.  Did I do it wrong?

Marco
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Brian60 on September 18, 2017, 04:20:49 PM
Hi All

Am I correct in saying that no more pictures can be uploaded?

Brian 60--- I know very little about boats and building them but I have done the hull with only the plans as above.  Did I do it wrong?

Marco

I think what tigertiger meant was, if you want to have a private conversation with another member, use the private message facility rather than giving out personal details or offers to share files etc on this open forum.

No you have not done it wrong, you may have a perfectly acceptable ship hull. But with so little information on those sheets above it may well have mistakes which cannot be corrected later. But if you are happy with it then carry on, after all you are the one it has to please the most!
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: KIWINB on October 03, 2018, 07:51:07 AM
Hello all. I found Ron's listing for his Klimek on Trade Me. A bit of searching and I found that there have been more built,  including one more in Nelson that I know of. Ron and Marco, nice work on your boats.
I found the A4 plan somewhere (the white one in the plan set on page 1 in this thread) and that is where I started.Enlarged that to give 560mm OAL. Any more and the lines became far to blurry.
I found and used the Freeship drawings to fill in all the details. 
The Nicads died so I now use 2S2P lipos from an old laptop to provide 7.4v at 4AH for power.
It is amazing how much ballast is needed to meet the waterline.
Still using Flysky T6A-V2 radio (fitted with 2 18650 lipo's for power), with 3ch GT2 Rx.
It finishes up as a very nice tug, I still trot it out on the lake regularly.
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Fisherman on October 03, 2018, 08:12:11 AM
Hello Re the Klimek. I am a little lost in thr current discussion. I am happy to arrange copies of the plans I have if you can respond by Friday. They may assist what you are doing, My email is - Email removed  - or any other help I can do for you - tnx Ron.

PM Ron = http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=19347 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=19347)
Title: Re: KLİMEK TUG Build
Post by: Marco Wegman on October 03, 2018, 09:41:35 AM
Hi KIWINB


I also have some higher resolution images of the plans of the Klimek.  If you still need them PM me and I can send them to you.


Marco