Model Boat Mayhem

Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: woodybob on November 29, 2009, 01:29:44 am

Title: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: woodybob on November 29, 2009, 01:29:44 am
Say... whatever happened to this great little company that made such wonderful fittings for model boats? 
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Colin Bishop on November 29, 2009, 09:03:20 am
They went out of business many years ago I'm afraid.

Colin
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: The long Build on November 29, 2009, 10:12:54 am
Thought someone took over the fittings ?
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bryan Young on November 29, 2009, 05:22:52 pm
I've got one of their last catalogues, and to be honest the offerings (although well made) were very expensive, completely outdated and would be out of place within the bounds of "modern" model making. OK if you are re-building a 1930s Basset-Lowke model I suppose. BY.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: woodybob on November 29, 2009, 10:34:22 pm
I've got one of their last catalogues, and to be honest the offerings (although well made) were very expensive, completely outdated and would be out of place within the bounds of "modern" model making. OK if you are re-building a 1930s Basset-Lowke model I suppose. BY.

hummm... care to post some pages from that catalog?
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bryan Young on November 29, 2009, 10:41:20 pm
hummm... care to post some pages from that catalog?
Yes, OK. But give me a couple of days to do it. BY.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: funtimefrankie on November 30, 2009, 01:10:19 pm
Weren't there some ads for them a couple of years back, in "Model Boats" someone selling off the stock??
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bryan Young on December 14, 2009, 04:04:54 pm
Sorry. I KNOW I've got the thing somewhere...just haven't found it yet! (Too much "stuff").
However, I do have to hand a 1933 Basset-Lowke catalogue that is actually more interesting than the Webb offering. I've also got it on disc, so copying is no problem.
I could put one or two sample pages on here if anyone is interested? Or I could do the whole book in a serial form. Thoughts? BY.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on December 14, 2009, 05:13:44 pm
Whole please Bryan.

LB
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bradley on December 14, 2009, 05:23:28 pm
I may be wrong but, as a young copper  :police: in North London in the 1960's, I seem to recall Webb Model Fittings having a workshop in a back street in Wood Green where two elderly gentlemen made all the fittings - fascinating to call in for a cuppa and watch them at work  ;).  I have no doubt when they got too old they sold the business but I suppose that no-one was interested in hand-making fittings any longer and the firm just 'disappeared'.  I also have a catalogue somewhere but I would hate to try and find it after several house moves.
Perhaps Bryan Young would correct me if my memories are wrong :((.
Derek.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bryan Young on December 14, 2009, 06:26:19 pm
I may be wrong but, as a young copper  :police: in North London in the 1960's, I seem to recall Webb Model Fittings having a workshop in a back street in Wood Green where two elderly gentlemen made all the fittings - fascinating to call in for a cuppa and watch them at work  ;).  I have no doubt when they got too old they sold the business but I suppose that no-one was interested in hand-making fittings any longer and the firm just 'disappeared'.  I also have a catalogue somewhere but I would hate to try and find it after several house moves.
Perhaps Bryan Young would correct me if my memories are wrong :((.
Derek.
Sorry Derek, all I can recall is that their fittings, although beautifully made, were "out of date" (i.e."traditional") and very expensive. BY.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bryan Young on December 14, 2009, 06:58:46 pm
This reply primarily for LB.....but also for others who are interested.
Since my previous post I've looked again at the disc.
It runs to 104 pages, taking up 192mb of disc space. It is (obviously) about model ships of the era, plus a bit about other aspects of modelling that B-L did. Each page is between 1 and 2 mb, reducing a page to the 161kb required by the forum looks horrible!
So I have a suggestion....if anyone "out there" would like a copy of the disc I'm willing to do it for "free". Mainly because I hate to see "stuff" hidden away and never seen by interested people.
All I'd request is that you send me a PM with a mailing address, I'll PM you with mine. Send me a blank CD (preferably CD-RW, but not vital), with a small label or whatever with a return stamp on it and I'll post the full disc back ASAP. My recent postage cost for a CD within the UK has been 68p....and £1-60 for postage to the USA. (But only 75p to New Zealand.....you work it out!).
I can also enclose a little list of other very old stuff I have on disc that makes interesting reading....particularly WW2 guff produced by the Ministry for (dis)Information. Bryan.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on December 14, 2009, 11:00:03 pm
Yes Bryan I see the point, I'll send you a disk by the end of the week, I would do so tomorrow of course but I'm on Orangeleaf transporting  Lairds to Birkenhead, Sir Percy arriving on Wednesday so that will be a 0430 start.

LB
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: The long Build on December 14, 2009, 11:24:51 pm
I have the Eleventh Edition (Eighth Edition Illustrated) think I purchased the Catalogue back in the 80's sometime when I had Grand idea of building an 8 foot Titanic (and this was before the JC film..) still have the 1/4 inch frames I cut , never know maybe one day.. :-X

Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bradley on December 15, 2009, 05:01:22 pm
Hi Long Build,
Perhaps, from your catalogue, you could confirm that the address of the Webb Model Fitting Co was in Wood Green, London N.22.
From your photo it looks like the one I remember.
Derek.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 15, 2009, 05:40:39 pm
Yes, it was 204 High Road, Wood Green, London N22. I have the advert in an old copy of Model Maker.

Colin
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bradley on December 15, 2009, 05:45:18 pm
Thanks, Colin.  Just shows my memory hasn't gone completely and they were rear of r/o 204.
Derek.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: The long Build on December 15, 2009, 06:37:24 pm
Yes, it was 204 High Road, Wood Green, London N22. I have the advert in an old copy of Model Maker.

Colin

Actually the address shown in the Catalogue is

The Web Model Fitting Co.
63 Uppleby Road
Parkstone
Poole
Dorset
BH12 3DB

Also mentions at the back that they were an Associate Company of   "Chine Engineering Ltd. and that Chine is Ministry of Defence Approved to DEF STAN 05-24

Larry
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 15, 2009, 06:41:03 pm
Must have been a later date then. I do vaguely remember that there was a change of some sort at some point. The address I have given was taken from a 1960 advert.

Colin
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: The long Build on December 15, 2009, 06:42:45 pm
Must have been a later date then. I do vaguely remember that there was a change of some sort at some point. The address I have given was taken from a 1960 advert.

Colin

Me not around then  :} :}
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 15, 2009, 06:43:19 pm
Me was  :((
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: The long Build on December 15, 2009, 07:07:00 pm
I think you AND a couple of OTHERS I know have been around a lot longer than we know about..  No matter what year model boats mag I pick up, their there.. 8) 8)
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bradley on December 15, 2009, 07:24:37 pm
I remember seeing the company advertised for sale many, many years ago and I thought then that their products would not survive  :(( - they were too well made and labour intensive.  As I mentioned previously, it was the 1960's when I used to sneak into their premises for a cup of tea  :-)) and the address was r/o 204, High Road, N22.  So that probably puts me well along the 'age scale' :(( :((.

Derek.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 15, 2009, 07:40:26 pm
I think you AND a couple of OTHERS I know have been around a lot longer than we know about..  No matter what year model boats mag I pick up, their there.. 

The rumours of reincarnation are true......

Colin
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: tobyker on December 15, 2009, 07:56:05 pm
Didn't they have an advt on ther back of MB magazine? I remember brass guns suitable for TBDs and such, and Braine gears for yachts.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: The long Build on December 15, 2009, 08:14:33 pm
Some Pages

If you want more I will put them up .

Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: riggers24 on December 15, 2009, 09:35:26 pm
Like this one from March 1980
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: The long Build on December 15, 2009, 09:58:41 pm
A few more pages

Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: tobyker on December 16, 2009, 12:04:25 am
I want one of those adjustable weighted rudders!!
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: woodybob on December 17, 2009, 03:36:31 pm
Thanks for sharing. :-))  I just stumbled onto this http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Web-Model-ship-boat-Fitting-Co-Catalgue-1950s_W0QQitemZ270502499560QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_ToysGames_ModelKits_ModelKits_JN?hash=item3efb3494e8 and bought it.   :-)
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: DickyD on December 17, 2009, 05:03:50 pm
Anyone know why Webs are no more, the fittings look excellent ?

Sorry, forget I asked that, I didnt read the first page. Its an age thing, I was working in Wood Green about the same time as that old timer Derek. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: Bradley on December 17, 2009, 05:32:32 pm
Quote
Sorry, forget I asked that, I didnt read the first page. Its an age thing, I was working in Wood Green about the same time as that old timer Derek.

Less of the 'old', Dickie  >>:-( {-) ;D

I think that they probably came to an end when the 2 old boys who ran the company and made all the parts were just too old to carry on.  Even when I used to call there in the 1960's they were certainly getting on in years and were typical old time craftsmen.  Still, in those days everyone over 40 was old to me  {-).

Derek.
Title: Re: WEBB Model Fittings
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on December 17, 2009, 05:37:53 pm
probably because they where so dear, in the 60s there deck  winch was a trademan's wages for a week. having said that MHB want £125 for there non working vigilant winch