Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Wasyl on December 13, 2009, 01:55:36 pm
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Can any of the "older members"and possibly some of the not so old,know where they would find these two
I,ll start you off with a little hint...you,ll find them in plain but not in pan????? {-)I,ve probably said too much, {-)
Wullie
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In the Breadbin.
Bob
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Geordie is bottom of loaf.
Curly Kate is top of loaf.
So it really depends what you do with your bread.
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Haway then me bonnie lads, translate this one -
'wisht lad had yer gobs' {:-{
and what does it come from? ;)
Derek.
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'Come along chaps and keep your mouths closed' and ........I'll tell yer all an awful story ! - The Lambton Worm that grew and grew with a geet big heed, geet big ears and geet big googly eyes :o and there is still the spiral path around Penshaw hill where it wrapped itself round and squeezed !
Mike
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traditional Geordie song about the Lambton Worm
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I see you Southerners know a bit about our North-Eastern heritage :-)) ok2 :-)
I remember, as a child my mother saying 'don't sit there like Penshaw Monument' when she wanted us to get up and do something.
I'm afraid that a lot of the Geordie/North-Eastern dialect is now being lost - great shame :((
Derek.
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Penshaw Monument stands on the top of Penshaw Hill on the outskirts of Sunderland.
Dont suppose it wanted to move. ok2
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Up here north of Hadrians Wall,our definition of a Geordie,...is wait for it...a "Scotsman with his head bashed in"..don,t ask me where it comes from,cause i don,t know,its just wot we were told from day one %%
..I,ve got some pals who are Geordies,you don,t want to know what they call me...? {-)
btw
may i offer my commiserations to all Geordies, seeing as how Newcastle Broon ale will no longer be made in Newcastle, <:(
Wullie
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Think of England as a pint of milk the cream always floats to the top.
Sentry.
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That is a dangerous analogy.
Before anybody posts the obvious rebuttal, think please.
Do we want that on the forum.
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<*< Here we go............. Strictly speaking .......................... the northern eastern dialects :police: .......... Geordies are Tynesiders. Folks in Northumberland, Durham, and Wearside,Teeside are quite/very different dialects. Coal mining communities/areas throughout the region have 'pitmatic dialects with subtle differences. Gather speakers from each area and put them socially in the same room (preferably a pub) and you will immediately hear/recognise the different dialects.
Brown Ale or Brown Dog is now a poser's drink for tourists/wannabees. Durham folk would be offended to hear that their 'Worm Song' is Geordie. Get a copy of Blaydon Races and read/hear the difference. The Geordie anthem was really, in my memory, the beautiful love song 'The Waters of Tyne' - especially so, when it is sung by young voices. The series with James Bolam - 'When the Boat comes In' was very accurate. The famous Geordie comic - Bobby Thompson (The Little Waster) was the real deal. {-) {-) {-) It's very easy to get it wrong. ok2
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Perfectly explained Mr Perkasaman, I wonder if other parts of the uk have so many variations in dialect in such a small area. I remember when that idiot made a tape pretending to be the Yorkshire Ripper I knew he was from Sunderland immediately (as doubtlessly, did so many other north easteners) and that was all of 5 miles away from where I lived (S Shields - Well Done Joe !!! Haway the lads :-)) )
Mike
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Mike can also claim to be a 'sand dancer' 8)
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Mike can also claim to be a 'sand dancer' 8)
And an adopted 'skate ender' I was going to try the dialect spelling but changed my mind - something like skiet ender. ie I lived for a while on the Law Top, which leaves non Shields folk probably non the wiser O0 {-)
Mike
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And an adopted 'skate ender' I was going to try the dialect spelling but changed my mind - something like skiet ender. ie I lived for a while on the Law Top, which leaves non Shields folk probably non the wiser O0 {-)
Mike
Oh yeah.
The Law Top area, only minutes away from Arbeia Roman Fort (at the end of Hadrian's Wall), and the North Marine Park (which overlooks the harbour) in South Shields by the sea, located at the Mouth of The River Tyne
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The Roman Army built a fort called 'Arbeia' on the 'Law Top' - it was an island in those times :o (A tributary of the Tyne flowed around this mini fortress isle which later silted up - formed +/- modern 'Ocean Road'. (A must for tourists/curry fans) :-))
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Here we go............. Strictly speaking .......................... the northern eastern dialects .......... Geordies are Tynesiders. Folks in Northumberland, Durham, and Wearside,Teeside are quite/very different dialects. Coal mining communities/areas throughout the region have 'pitmatic dialects with subtle differences. Gather speakers from each area and put them socially in the same room (preferably a pub) and you will immediately hear/recognise the different dialects.
Brown Ale or Brown Dog is now a poser's drink for tourists/wannabees. Durham folk would be offended to hear that their 'Worm Song' is Geordie. Get a copy of Blaydon Races and read/hear the difference. The Geordie anthem was really, in my memory, the beautiful love song 'The Waters of Tyne' - especially so, when it is sung by young voices. The series with James Bolam - 'When the Boat comes In' was very accurate. The famous Geordie comic - Bobby Thompson (The Little Waster) was the real deal. It's very easy to get it wrong.
Quite funny really, the examples given: James Bolam (great actor) from (Wearside) I think, Bobby Thompson lived in Shiney Row (hardly Tyneside in my book).
Perhaps the best description of "A Geordie" was given as 'The Scots didn't want us, the English wouldn't have us, so there we are, a race apart. {-)
There was a debate some time ago on a local TV show as to the origin of the term "Geordie". The presenter put forward the idea that dated back to the development of miners safety lamps (there had been a number of very large gas explosions in local mines). A competion was held to design a safety lamp, two main people involved (1) George Stephenson (2) Humphrey Davy. It was claimed that the Stephenson lamp was superior and that the areas that adopted it were named "Geordies". The Davy lamp was actually approved, but it was claimed that he had contacts in high places and the competition was really rigged.
(Takes cover now) What happened to the definition that a Geordie had to be born within the sound of Swans hooter?
And yes, I was, less than a mile from the main gate to Wallsend Shipyard.
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I think you'll find that most areas within the UK have quite different dialects or accents often within a small area.
When I was in the Army, many years ago, I prided myself on my ability to distinguish between Bolton, Blackburn or Burnley; Harlow, Colchester or Southend; Derby and Nottingham; Leeds and Bradford; Birmingham and the Black Country - often to the speaker's considerable surprise (I got more than a few pnts betting on this)!
I think though nowadays as folks move about the country much more frequently, the accents are getting "watered down" and soon, apart from very rural areas, will become almost standardised.
Ah well, we'll have to think of some other reason to extract the ur*ne %)
Danny
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Alreet Dicky, yer a Marra! Yeh geordie noow :police: ( Wuh'll let yeh - keep yah feet still Dicky Hinnie!) nex time yer up wuh'll gan forra curri doon oshun rode - Keep a had!!! ;) :-) Keep yah vine goin Bonny Lad. :-))
Proposa: Perky Secondas: Blubord an Micky - Yer in DD - Neebody els mind! :police:
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Howair Lads, NEE nit pickin, Reet? - Am keepin toot............ wah taakin aboot 'twangggggg'. :police:
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You're not related to wor Dorfy by any chance %)
Mike
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Alreet Dicky, yer a Marra! Yeh geordie noow :police: ( Wuh'll let yeh - keep yah feet still Dicky Hinnie!) nex time yer up wuh'll gan forra curri doon oshun rode - Keep a had!!! ;) :-) Keep yah vine goin Bonny Lad. :-))
Proposa: Perky Secondas: Blubord an Micky - Yer in DD - Neebody els mind! :police:
Does this mean I've got to learn another language then ?
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Divvent fret Marra wuh'll larn yuh - wuh naa wot wuh like an wuh like wot wuh naa - savvy wor Dicky - yeh wors noo! Gerra car sticka:
'DIVVENT DUNSHUS WAH GEORDIES' - Flawnt it man - heed up an lukin canny!!!!! :-))
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That Geordie language,would tak some waterin doon you,d need gallons of the stuff,and the same can be said aboot Aiberdeen,i,l ive only 60 miles south of Aberdeen,and i,ve got to take a word translator with me to understand wit their sayin, "yi ken wit a mean Loon,fit yi sayin min,wid ya tak a look it them Quins, then if you gan tae Dundee, its a Pehs and Taes and a bottle o Tam Mcgovern {-)
Wullie
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Hi, One of Andy Stewarts records named the "Rumour" is nice to listen to. There is an alternative
to the "Geordie" subject in as much Newcastle, in the civil war was Royalist.
Nemesis
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Does this mean I've got to learn another language then ?
I think you'll need an course in advanced gibberish, Dicky
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I think you'll need an course in advanced gibberish, Dicky
That along with the English and the Rubbish should hold me in good stead methinks. Is there a funny handshake too ? {:-{
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I was born in Hebburn lived there 20 years when met wor lass after we won the cup in 73 in the chelsey cat in sheilds moved to lincolnshire for work still where been married 36 years wor lass is a Mackem and the mother-in-law still complains yar tacking like him.
Sentry.
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>>:-( Am spellin funetic tuh help yis larn thuh reet twang - Aah divven nah. :(( Nemmy sez wah 'charlies' :o (thuh 45 was king georg/die? - wer allwis loyil ti thuh croon - reet ideeah ;)
'Oor Wullie's' a 'worky ticket' startin this lot - 'The Broons' an theh 'but'n ben' hols ill be next ;D
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All this reminds me of the old story....
A Japanese business delegation were visiting Tyneside with the intention of setting up a car factory. They toured various engineering firms, shipyards and workshops, then all went back to the Chamber of Trade for a debrief. Through their translator, the thanked their hosts and said how impressed they were with the Geordies. In particular, said one delegate, they were amazed that several of the workers had already learnt some Japanese.
The locals were stunned, and asked the delegate to explain. He told them that in one foundry he had distinctly hear a worker call to a colleague and say, in Japanese: "Owa marra - hoy ya hama owa hea!"
Rick
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Dus it nae dae you gud tae speak yer native tongue,for too long our native dialects have been driven underground,by those that would have us believe, that we must speak the Queens Englsh,Up here north of Hadrians Wall,more and more people are reverting to speaking "the Scots language,..not Gaelic,just Scots,
How many times have we who make up the UK when we are on holiday in ..Spain Germany France,etc, we are automatically classed as English, whenever we open our mouths,.its ok if you are English,but for the like,s of Scots, Welsh, Irish,its a no,no,Whenever anyone says to me,"you are English"I tell them that in order to communicate i peak English,but I am from Scotland,
and before anyone jumps on me,"No I don,t want Scottish Independance" {-)
as fur oor Wullie an the Broons, you,ve obviously been getting the Sunday Post, {-)
Wullie
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Ref the original point of this post i.e. the round and square ends of bread slices; my Mum and my Gran always referred to them as Audrey and Polly. Any ideas where this came from? Anyone else heard it (East Midlands)?
FLJ
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Yes,back to the original point,...how easy it is to get side tracked,i,ve never heard of them being called anything but,Plain, Geordie and curly Kate,..but it would appear from the way we were side tracked,that its a Northerner term,..like Boggles,Boggies an broon ale,
Wullie
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I was brought up in the East Midlands - Northants - and never ever heard the rounded or flat bits of a slice of bread called anything! The crusty first slice of the loaf was called a "cob end", I think, but we were too poor to afford bread often!
Rick
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Bread is traditionally called, 'the staff of life'. There are so many types and varieties - just like our selves/dialects etc and it may be that 'humour' is our yeast. I've subscribed/tasted many forums - Mayhem/mers 'rise above the rest' - the mix is O0 right O0 :} I have thoroughly enjoyed the thread/'gentle leg pulling'. :-))
Wullie - As youngsters we loved the Wullie/Broons (alternating) Xmas 'annuals' - are they still published? -I don't read the (Scottish) 'Sunday Post'.
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I was brought up in the East Midlands - Northants - and never ever heard the rounded or flat bits of a slice of bread called anything! The crusty first slice of the loaf was called a "cob end", I think, but we were too poor to afford bread often!
Rick
Methinks you may have just started a whole new diversion on Monty Pythons 'Hard, you think you've had it hard ?' sketch O0
Mike
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Ho Wullie, huv you got ony wally dugs on yer mantlepiece? Ah distinctly rememember evrybiddy hud them when ah wis a bairn.
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Bread is indeed the staff of life: and the life of the Staff is one long loaf.
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Bread is traditionally called, 'the staff of life'. There are so many types and varieties - just like our selves/dialects etc and it may be that 'humour' is our yeast. I've subscribed/tasted many forums - Mayhem/mers 'rise above the rest' - the mix is O0 right O0 :} I have thoroughly enjoyed the thread/'gentle leg pulling'. :-))
Wullie - As youngsters we loved the Wullie/Broons (alternating) Xmas 'annuals' - are they still published? -I don't read the (Scottish) 'Sunday Post'.
Yes,oor Wullie and the Broons.are still published,along with another old favourite of the time,Rupert the Bear {-)
wullie
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Ho Wullie, huv you got ony wally dugs on yer mantlepiece? Ah distinctly rememember evrybiddy hud them when ah wis a bairn.
The only Wally dugs that i,ve got are the ones i got from the Dentists, {-)
Wullie
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My Gran had a pair of them on her mantlepiece in Possil Park - Her father, Great Grandad Murdoch was a piper on a Clyde steamer (the Waverley) in his later years. Her husband/my Grandad's favourite loco was powered by the Napier Deltic (he was a driver on it in his last years before retirement). He was in awe of it's power/sound and comfort - "it pulls a dozen carriages like a piece o' string an I get hame clean". He was very unromantic about steam power - he started as a cleaner and worked his way onto the footplate. He was especially proud of driving the odd 'special' train north to Balmoral/May.
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By coincidence the online Gazette has an article on Dorfy - she tarks jus lyke Perkasaman O0
http://www.shieldsgazette.com/cookson/Dorfy-on-the-stress-of.5917243.jp
Mike
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Ah nah Dorfy, shuh's a canny lass, mind yuh, shuh wud'n gis a gan iv ah byke. {:-{ Ah met a wen ah wis pullin me tanner barra lyk a nackad gallowa - lowded doon wi fornitcha, on anotha flit. Ad sent the bairn tuh hoy the keys thru thi landlads dor, wuh canna pay im :embarrassed:- Wiv got nowt foh weh sels. Wuh'll hev tuh get the 'provi man'. The 'littl in' needs a quack but wuh hav'n got thuh 3s 6d to pay im. Ah got a polis for free boots foh the bairns - ah cut sum'a them doon foh thuh gels. (Tyneside in the thirties? - Tales aboot thuh gud ol dayz ) :-)
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Er - aye well canny - mebbe ah spose %% {:-{
Mike
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Plain Geordie and Curly Kate
I thought they were the two presenting One Man and his Dog on BBC2 this week. Kate Humble and ......oh, it doesn't matter about his name. ;)
Geoff
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Methinks its time the missionaries were coming over the wall to educate those south of the border in Queens english.
Its a well known fact that the purest english is spoken in Inverness.
Jock Strap
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Hi Jock, I think Wullie's bringing up reinforcements on the thread ;) - I like your idea as long as you send 'four an twenty' of them O0.
I think Mike and I belonged to the 'Likely Lads' era %). This series was a real personal favourite and I think La Frenais 's characterisation and writing was spot on. Geoff has impeccable taste and judgement. :-))
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Methinks its time the missionaries were coming over the wall to educate those south of the border in Queens english.
Its a well known fact that the purest english is spoken in Inverness.
Jock Strap
As is usual, you have a problem with spelling. "Queen" has only 2 "e's" and not 3. And here was me believing that Scottiche education was better than wot we got. BY.
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Queens!!!...Queeens....??????...specsavers for you Bryan,or are we missing something here,..and your "Scottiche"has the Germanic look to it,or is it Saxon {-) {-) {-)
Wullie
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Queens!!!...Queeens....??????...specsavers for you Bryan,or are we missing something here,..and your "Scottiche"has the Germanic look to it,or is it Saxon {-) {-) {-)
Wullie
I most sincerely apologize for my little blunder. Now and again my 2 eyes don't work in harmony....a medical thing as opposed to anything alcohol related. Sorry. As for the spellings well, coming from the loins of Norse folk (albeit a few weeks ago), I do get the occassional urge ....but I shan't go into that area! Again, sorry. BY.
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Apology accepted, {-).."Norse Stock"mm,..trolls,and Berserkers, and all them other creatures,everytime i drive down to Wideopen to visit my mate Bob,i see all these weird named places that remind me of how often the NE coat was invaded,by Norseman/Angles/Saxons/Jutes,...Fenham le moor springs to mind and that other funny one that sometimes has a T added to it,.."Shilbottle" {-)
Wullie
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Shilbottle??? What a name, thats just asking for it, I bet that road name is graffiti'd more than any other in the land! {-)
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And Ponteeeeeland, Pity Me, Houghton Le Spring, Hetton Le Hole, Seaton De Laval, an :Dd can't even spell Colourcoats!
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Shilbottle??? What a name, thats just asking for it, I bet that road name is graffiti'd more than any other in the land! {-)
You better believe it {-)there,s another name sign on the road from Workington to Carlisle,..it sometimes ,reads Brothel, {-)I wonder how many other places there are, that at the stroke of a black marker, the name can be changed,much to the annoyance of whoever lives there???
Wullie
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We also have 3 villages called "Often Seen", "Seldom Seen" and "Never Seen". BY.
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Wllie an ees marra lytesum wanna gan canny boolin roond wi theh markas ;D - divven fohget, wah spellins wah histry 8)
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We also have 3 villages called "Often Seen", "Seldom Seen" and "Never Seen". BY.
Hi Bryan,..I live approx 2 mile from Newbiggin,???............
......which by my reckoning is very close to you,.....but,my Newbigging is more than 160 miles from you, {-)
Wullie