Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Pleasure boats, Sports, Race, Power and Leisure Boats: => Topic started by: jaywayne75 on January 26, 2010, 07:14:45 pm
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Just ordered my brushless Earthrace to be fully converted into the Ady Gil.
it will have the green laser too.
can't wait lol :}
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Should look pretty cool, who is selling them ?
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getting it direct from the manufacturer its about £400 need to get decals sorted but should not be an issue
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The fact that it will be broken on arrival is not bad packaging just an adjustment to keep it up to date and to scale {-) {-) {-) {-)
Question is still unansweredShould look pretty cool, who is selling them ?
Got a link?
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i really hope not!! it is a worry though!! lol
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Being a Kiwi I got very curious about a model of this so I went hunting and found several sites. Here is one http://totally-rc.co.uk/index_files/Page3505.htm
Nice looking model, just can't quite put my finger on what is incorrect on this version.
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The bow doesn't look vertical enough for a start,plus it's actually got one :-))
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Ahhh, it is the older version, with the bow on still, thanks for that {-)
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when you take it out watch out for them big scale boats you might lose ya nose :} :} :} :} :} :}
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If anyone is modeling the shonin maru 2 then revenge will be sweet lol prop foulers
hope to have it at Wicksteed this yr with twin 500 motors not a single brushless as they give too much welly and any changes made to make it as real as possible prior the incident laser nav lights radar gps mods etc
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Getting the earthrace but prefer realism over stupid speed so the plan is to use a twin motor setup as per the real thing the model is 920mm long and weighs 6,5 kg
it comes with a 3.4kv single brushless setup this will be removed but what props shafts and motor combo's would be best for good speed but nice slow running?
cheers
jason
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Jason
I really like your thinking.
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well thanks for that i just want a good usable boat that is as close to the real one as i can get it
i am not into brushless as slow running is not smooth as i found out with rc cars would sooner whack in a couple of 480 500 size motors that would give good perfomance and slow running
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You have a left thumb for a reason - speed control ;)
It was a pretty rapid boat anyway...
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if i wanted the boat to do 900 kts then i would stick with the setup i have
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hi jaywayne75
do you have any pictures of the inside/ running gear, if not can you take some when you get it back.
thanks
me3
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awaiting delivery i will post details of it and the conversion when it arrives %%
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ok thanks
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It depends on the speed controllers if you buy good brushless one you can crawl along without a problem I had the same problem with cheap brushles ones but got some better ones and no problem, there is a video on hear from red181 with his boat on brushless on hear
http://s238.photobucket.com/albums/ff100/pmdevlin/?action=view¤t=Huntsmanbrushless1.flv
he uses http://www.castlecreations.com/products/products_boat.html they are great to set up if a bit expensive.
peter
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I was going to suggest going for 2x 540 sized motors running Graupner 451 35mm M4 props. {:-{
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i had a Novak 5300 in the car slow running seemed fast
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i want to get props from propshop to the pattern of the real ones 4 blade cleavers and want to try and get good economy from the motors
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i want to get props from propshop to the pattern of the real ones 4 blade cleavers and want to try and get good economy from the motors
the huntsman is running a Cleaver from prop shop, he also runs one on his fire boat we tried lots of props and found they where the best
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as long as u can get two 540's side by side in the hull that i think will be the answer i will measure it up as she is quite narrow lol
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I assume that your 3.4Kv actualy means 3400 Kv?, there are a bigger range of brushless motors with different Kvs compared to brushed motors, picking an appropriate motor is much easier I thing, turns, what the hell is turns <*< ( of course i do know) most wouldn't have a clue
i had a Novak 5300 in the car slow running seemed fast
Thats 5300Kv, at 7.2 volts its no load speed is 38000 RPM, the 3400 Kv is 24400 Rpm,
You need something around the 1000 Kv to 1500 Kv, that will give good slow speed as well as reasonable speed at full throttle
Nick
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as long as u can get two 540's side by side in the hull that i think will be the answer i will measure it up as she is quite narrow lol
You could always try staggering the motors.
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well she should be here in a day or two so measuring can begin
the Cleaver props in the pic are perfect for earthrace i will be getting some of those also looking to put the dual rudders in the sponsons as per the real thing staggering the motors i think wont be a problem but only if i really have to
the empty space will mostly be filled with foam should a boat decide to try and slash me bow off
still not sure brushed or not?
brushed gives great slow running but brushless gives insane speed maybe 1500kv is ok
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If you want slow, a 700 Kv, ;) 5000 RPM at 7.2 volts, on a 40 MM prop will give you all of 3.5 KpH, well maybe a little more with the slippery Earthrace hull :-))
I can watch the bell spinning and almost count the revs by eye.
first motor in this thread.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=20084.0
Nick
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i spose its because i am used to brushed 540 size motors but any motors that will suit the 920mm hull at 6.5kg would be fine so keep ya ideas coming
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Ok it turned up today the Earthrace and i am pleased oerall but its a big job to convert to twin motors but it beggs it to be honest oh i m Jaywayne75 but i have used my mates login as i am on his computer to save confusion!!
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Also available as a petrol boat, seen at Nurnborg Toy Fair http://www.mariosrcmodels.com/nurnburg_2010.htm (http://www.mariosrcmodels.com/nurnburg_2010.htm)
These guys have it for sale as well http://www.hobbystores.co.uk/asp/FS_blank.asp?frame=http://www.hobbystores.co.uk/asp/default.asp?itemid=B-VAN060A-GPR&selectedtab=030 (http://www.hobbystores.co.uk/asp/FS_blank.asp?frame=http://www.hobbystores.co.uk/asp/default.asp?itemid=B-VAN060A-GPR&selectedtab=030)
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anyone know of where i can get decals made for this model (Ady Gil) ?
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Does anybody know of who or where makes decals? (waterslide) as i need to get some made for the conversion of earthrace to ady gil
thanks
jason
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Waterslide decals will waterslide on.... Then waterslide back off again...
Try RCGraphics.
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You can make your own easily if you have a colour or laser printer by buying waterslide transfer paper here http://www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk/productlist.asp?catid=14&RootCatID=14 (http://www.craftycomputerpaper.co.uk/productlist.asp?catid=14&RootCatID=14)
If using colour ink, you'd need to seal the transfer on the boat to stop it coming off.
AFAIA there is different paper for ink jet and laser pinters.
HTH
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Ha ha i did intend to satin laquer them on lol
tho i will give the printing option a go
thanks
jase
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Just been doing some, black printing on clear backing, works well.
Not tried the white backing paper yet
Print it out, spray the paper, let it dry and then dunk and slide it on, not sprayed it again yet.
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Just been trying to put some colour (red and Yellow) printed decals onto a dark blue background and the decal is all but invisible <:(
Any any tips on decals on to a dark colour?
The ones I've done before have been black onto a white background and been fine.
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Try your local sign shop - they usually have small scrap ends that they can create your text/design onto - quite often for a donation to their tea fund. I've had a few here done using a vinyl type material.
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jason
go to the sign shop around the corner from you.. Get some of that self adhesive venial . Mark at the club has a rob cutter that will cut them out perfect.
All you need to do is to get a drawing of the transfers you want. I call you later
John
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Ok an update this is the Ady Gil prior to the driveline mods and decals but after surgery to the horns or fins on top she looks far better for it tho!!
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Well its going well all electrics are out the intake/exhaust horns heavily modified (flatter angle and more swept) and now wearing the satin black
more detail mods to follow radar and IRC platform nav lights and hand rails
it will be a twin Graupner direct drive setup with two 35/40mm 4 blade props and will try tank steering if this is no good then twin rudders in the sponsons as the real thing had these so plenty to do but all quite do-able
:-))
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All going well no electrics but graupner direct drives will be going in with 2 40mm props loads to do detail mods tho the horns are heavily modified as now they sit flatter and more swept an issue with this model but looking ok now!
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nice project looks great, sad though that the sea sheperds had to bring that nice boat to antarctic and get it destroyed.
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Here it is now with twin graupner 602 multispeeds with 600 motors tank steers really well and may add sponson rudders for trimming
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Keep a sharp lookout for Japanese whaling ships O0
Peter.
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Ha Ha i have a prop fouling line so they best watch out for me as revenge is sweet :-))
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All topics merged... hope it still makes sense!
Good looking boat, can't wait the video of it running!! :-))
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Ive got the bigger brother of this and am about to start carrying out some mods to improve it.
Ive allready had to repair the bow after a little accident and that has motivated me to change a few things, the exhaust presently comes out on the left hand side but Im pretty sure that was letting water in through the turns so im blanking the exit off and going to reroute the exhuast out of the left side breather fin. Im also going to do similar and run a breather tube from the right side fin down to the carb. After that the idea is to fibreglass where the sponsons meet the main hull to add strength, at the moment their are 8 bolts securing each sponson to the main hull but id rather increse the strength in that area considerably. Then trim tabs going to be added as mine seams to have a tendency to lean to the right and on righ turns the right sponson burries into the water. With a little head scratching I think I can get the trim tabs running of a third channel so that its trimable whilst running. Oh yeah and going to add some boyancy as well , theirs quite a bit of space in front and above the fuel tank so hopefully get some packaging air packets on those spaces. Think thats my plans in a nut shell. Would like mine to have the ability to go through waves as the real one did which is my thinking behind most of my planned work. Then a quick respray in some thing appropriate.