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Title: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on March 08, 2010, 09:02:41 PM
Hi guys,just been chatting to a couple of mates and have organised a sub meet at Eaton Park,Norwich
for bank holiday sunday,drop me a line if you are interested
regards, Donuts
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: Flying Sparks on March 09, 2010, 12:32:35 PM
Hi Donuts

Would that be Easter Sunday?

Phil.
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on March 10, 2010, 08:39:05 PM
On target Sparks
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: Subculture on March 10, 2010, 08:45:10 PM
Hey Donuts, coming along to the Summer Dive-in at St Albans?
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on March 10, 2010, 09:02:11 PM
Thanks for the invite,I have a slight problem at the moment but if the nice man at the hospital
fixes my Carpal tunnel syndrome in both my hands in time then theres a chance that holding tools and
serviciing my subs might allow me to get back to sun dodging in time
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: RonP on March 16, 2010, 11:02:02 PM
Count me in Donuts, I will be there with my Alpha and so will Mick Higgot with his Typhoon, torpedos loaded and looking for targets.
RonP
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: gyronuts on March 17, 2010, 06:32:48 PM
can you confirm it is easter sunday? Bill
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on March 19, 2010, 09:01:30 AM
Hi Guys,looks like this things gathering pace,should be a good day
Easter sunday is the day,Eaton park in Norwich is the place.10 am start until
flat batteries or moans from S.W.M.B.O curtail operations
I have heard that some kits and bits are there to be sold off
see you all soon

Donuts

Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: Martin [Admin] on March 19, 2010, 09:48:52 AM
Location?
Directions?
Links?

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Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on March 19, 2010, 10:40:35 AM
oops, Sorry Martin!
Eaton Park is on the South  Western side of Norwich
The easiest way to find Eaton Park is to use the southern bypass in either direction
until you get to the A11 Thickthorn roundabout,follow signs to Norwich,cross straight
over the next roundabout and take the next slip road off the A11 (Cringleford)
Right at the T junction(bridge over A11) Left at the next T junction,over the hump back bridge
to traffic lights in Cringleford,turn left at these lights onto Bluebell Road,about half a mile up
Bluebell road turn right into Southpark avenue,about three hundred yards up Southpark ave
there is a traffic island in the road.stop and find a parking place cos you have arrived
 
The club has its own Premises in the park with two prep rooms and an upstairs
meeting room with free tea and coffee and a micro wave to warm up your own food
there is  a stairlift for the less mobile and full toilet facilities
car parking is a problem late mornings but members will show where to park if you pop in
quickly and ask
The pond is 440 feet by 80 feet with a depth of between 2 to 3 feet
this is an above ground pond and as such is very user friendly,we have two sets of waders
should the unfortunate happen,if any warship guys would like to attend we will deploy or
harbour and boom to give them some safety from sub attack
We are one of the very few clubs that still run I.C boats on the pond,should any nitro guys be interested
The club has 1 old and 1 new website
the  old address is nmbc@fsnet.com
the new address is www.norwichmodelboatclub.com
Not being very IT literate its probably better to try the links on mayhems site,post code for sat nav users will follow shortly when I have found it!!!!
see you all soon
Donuts



hope this helps and I look forward to seeing you all
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on March 19, 2010, 10:50:52 AM
Post code is NR4 7AY
regards Donuts
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: gyronuts on March 21, 2010, 07:50:53 PM
I will be there to. Bill
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: Turbulent on March 22, 2010, 07:55:48 AM
All directions are on the website gents
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on March 28, 2010, 03:15:56 PM
Hi guys,in order to obtain car parking next to the pond,I have to contact the council for permission
but I need to know how many people will be attending,could all those wishing to attend please post a reply
before close of play this monday evening
regards ,Donuts
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: gyronuts on March 28, 2010, 07:45:39 PM
I will be attending. Citreon Picasso LO 58 ACY.
 Bill
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: Turbulent on March 29, 2010, 01:15:34 PM
Geoff,

Are you intending to Park down the side of the pond?, I'm pressuming you're talking to the events team on the council as we have not registered an event for Sunday.

Have you spoken to Dennis?

Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: reinhard on March 29, 2010, 03:29:35 PM
Gentlemen
I have to tell you that this meeting does NOT have the support of the committee of the Norwich Model Boat Club.  There is another event on our regatta list booked for this Sunday.  The person who arranged this is no longer a committee member.
The only way parking can be permitted next to the pond is to submit a Risk Assessment Form at least a month prior to the event.  It is not possible to obtain this at such short notice.
All future communication regarding club events should be directed to me as Chairman, or Turbulent who is the Vice Chairman.  My e-mail address is paukenschlag@talktalk.net
Reinhard
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: gyronuts on March 29, 2010, 06:29:56 PM
does that mean the meeting is cancelled? Bill
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: Turbulent on March 29, 2010, 06:45:14 PM
Bill

There is no "meeting" to cancel, Eaton Park is a Free to use facility & as such any member of the public is free to turn up & sail at any time.

What we are stating is that Norwich Model Boat Club is not organising this sail & that anybody attending should be aware of this because our facilities may not be available to them, we will not be setting courses etc as we do on our organised events & our tables etc will not be set out for modeller's use - we have members sailing that day who will in all likelyhood be using them as we have a free sail event in the morning.

It should also be noted that the I/C modellers will be racing on the pond from 1230 - hardly a sub friendly environment!

So basically, you are more than welcome to come down on Sunday & sail and you will be made more than welcome, but please dont expect an organised event with Pond side Parking & the usual facilities NMBC provide.

Our first Scheduled Submarine event of 2010 is on 16th May.
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: reinhard on March 29, 2010, 06:48:47 PM
Gentlemen

The next officially sponsored submarine/warship meeting of the Norwich Model Boat Club will be on Sunday 16th May from 10AM.  Whole pond available.

The annual National Submarine meeting will be on Sunday 8th August all day.  This is a submarine only meeting.  Whole pond available.

The third submarine/warship meeting will be on Sunday 12th September from 10AM.  There is another event on the regatta list on this day, so the pond will be divided after a certain time.

Risk assessment forms for these events have been sent for permission to park at the pond side.

Reinhard
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: gyronuts on March 29, 2010, 07:52:32 PM
Thanks. So in reality i can turn up , weather permitting, and sail my sub and be welcome on sunday and won't upset the local club members? Bill
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: Turbulent on March 29, 2010, 08:04:52 PM
Thanks. So in reality i can turn up , weather permitting, and sail my sub and be welcome on sunday and won't upset the local club members? Bill

Abosolutely Bill, in fact I will be there on sunday & if you're about I'll even make you a brew! :-))
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on March 29, 2010, 09:27:43 PM
Hi Guys,donuts here.Well I will consider my wrists slapped,its a shame dennis did not mention all of this when when i proposed
the event a fortnight ago, indeed the last info I got was that anyone can organise an event but that the committee
would not offer any help,I did not intend to stand on anyones toes and apologise if I have
In view of the terse replies I will withdraw

Regards Donuts 
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: gyronuts on March 29, 2010, 09:28:55 PM
donuts i hope to see you sunday, would be a shame if you were not there. bill
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on March 29, 2010, 09:40:10 PM
thanks for the kind words Bill but in the circumstances and given the attitude of the new chairman, I think it would be best for all
concearned if I did not attend the Norwich Model Boat Club at all

Regards donuts
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: reinhard on March 30, 2010, 12:02:14 PM
Gentlemen
I am sorry that Geoff, our previous Chairman, feels he needs to resign.  He has done a lot for the NMBC in the past.  However, time moves on, and having been in my position, he should know how things operate and what the rules are.  I would like to pass on the following information to all concerned.
When the club agreed that individuals could organize various activities, this was with reference to outside shows and events, which the club felt they would not officially support.  All the events at Eaton Park are decided in consultation with the various section heads at the beginning of each year and a regatta list drawn up.  This is pretty full and there is little scope for an impromptu event.
As Paul mentioned in his thread, there is IC racing going on in the pond on Sunday, and being a submariner myself, I wholeheartedly agree with his concerns.
As for arranging for parking by the pond side, that can only be done by the club and not by individuals.  A Risk Assessment form has to be completed and submitted to the Council, as per my previous thread.
I am very sorry if there has been any confusion caused by all these threads, but I would feel personally responsible as Chairman, if I didn't highlight some of the difficulties. I would be upset if modellers travelled a considerable distance and had a less than happy experience with us.  All modellers are more than welcome at Norwich any Sunday, and would receive our usual hospitality, but please refer to the regatta list on our website. You can see the precise location of the club from the Google maps.    Reinhard
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on April 02, 2010, 06:26:18 PM
Hi Guys......Donuts here.  Just a quick reply with regards to Reinhard's comments.  The February 2010 newsletter carries a report from the Vice Chairman under the title of Events organisation and is as follows:-

"Event Organisation. To clarify the clubís position on events as discussed at the AGM. Should any member wish to organise the clubís participation in a show, they can speak to the committee, who will ensure they have the full support of the club & itís facilities. The committee however, will not be organising these events".

As you may no doubt see this extract is slightly ambiguous and open to interpretation, the moral of the story is, say what you mean and mean what you say.  As previously mentioned I had spoken to the new Chairman 'twice' about this event on consecutive Sundays and no concerns were raised by him about my plans.

On checking the 2010 Regatta list I find that Mono 2 class,  April 4th, is a fast electric meeting starting at 10.00 with two seven minute heats to be completed before 12.00noon.  Perhaps the Vice Chairman would like to check more closely in future before issuing incorrect statements or as with car parking, have things changed but no-one has been informed.

Yes rules are rules, I should know, I drew up most of them including the precedent for car parking, Under this agreement, one weeks notice was required and need only be by telephone to the council.  Extra terms and conditions were not communicated to me from the Committee.

Lastly and in closing my decision not to attend the Norwich Model Boat Club at all means on Sunday 4th April and does not imply resignation from the club.  This decision would be taken by me and informed to the Chairman 'personally' should the need arise.

It is a shame that we have had to carry out this discussion via a web site forum instead of by personal contact and this will be my last posting on this subject.

Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: tassie48 on April 04, 2010, 11:37:35 PM
Any photos from your meeting just a bit hard to pop over from Tasmania tassie48.
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: Turbulent on April 05, 2010, 08:23:12 AM
Tassie,

If you've been following this thread, you'll no doubt guess the "meeting" never was, there were however a few guys turn up for a sail yesterday - apologies to Bill & Ron who made a special effort to come over from afar - If you have a look on our website, the links in my signature at the bottom of the page there are several ( To many according to some of our members!) pic's of past Sub events on there.

For anybody interested in Submarines & Warships, we are holding our first Naval of 3 Regattas in 6 weeks time & can confirm that there will be the usual facilities - Ample parking within 30 feet of the pond side etc, entrance is free of course, but non members will just need to be signed in to use the club house for tea, toilet, charging etc.

Any questions, contact me or Reinhard on here or by pm.
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: reefrich on April 05, 2010, 09:41:41 AM
Just read this thread and had a good laugh! i always thought that building, sailing and apprecitating model boats of all types was FUN and enjoyable. I didn't realise there was so much politics within a club.

Any of you guys running in the next election?

Bill if you see this I will try to send you some pics of the Ohio afetr its refit!
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: The long Build on April 05, 2010, 10:39:08 AM
Just out of curiosity does the club have sole usage over the pond or is it actually a public facility, and regardless of what event the club may have organised could not any member of the public can actually use the pond ?
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: admiral donuts on April 05, 2010, 10:48:38 AM
Hi Guys...Donuts here.  I know I said I wouldn't post any more but I just had to reply to Reefrich.

I absolutely agree that the hobby is all about having Fun and making it a sociable activity.  All I tried to do was organise an event using the clubs published guidelines.  The boating pond is a public facilty and anyone can simply turn up and sail, the club just tries to organise pondside activities.
Visiting modellers and members of the public are always welcome.

Politics will kill off any club, gives off bad publicity, puts off visiting modellers and stifles the volunteer spirit.  How much better it would have been to sort this out privately rather than publically.

OK, now that this is all behind us I propose to play with my toys !!     However, should you wish me to stand for Parliament as an Independent Mayhem member, I would be interested to read your comments.  My manifesto would be based on more time at the pond, less time at the office.  How does that grab you.
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: The long Build on April 05, 2010, 10:56:56 AM
probably get few more votes than some of the available parties. :}
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: Turbulent on April 05, 2010, 12:45:34 PM
probably get few more votes than some of the available parties. :}

Depends on the agenda.
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: gyronuts on April 05, 2010, 05:57:11 PM
Hi,
 Many thanks for your hospitality. I had a great time sailing in the clear waters. As can be seen in the photos the lookout remained on deck even when submerged to detect the dreaded green weed!!!. Bill
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: reinhard on April 09, 2010, 04:03:23 PM
Hi Bill

Glad you enjoyed your visit. It was very nice meeting you. Great photos.

Hope to see you again at the sub/warship meeting on the 16th May or at any time you are in the area.

regards

Reinhard
Title: Re: Impromptu Sub day
Post by: RonP on April 12, 2010, 11:20:43 PM
Its very sad when politics rears its ugly head in, what is after all, just a hobby but I have seen it all before I am afraid.
 Bourneville MBC, of which I was a member for almost 30 years, lost its long standing President and was taken over by less pragmatic
people who seemed to be obsessed with risk assesments, health and safety issues and third party insurance (for people who hadn't got boats)
not to mention reading the rule book at every opportunity. The result was predictable (and had been prophisied)the membership of the
scale boat side of the club fell from over 200 to less than 20 in two years. Who is the loser?
The impromptu meets we used to have at Bourneville in the past attracted many and in the days before the internet made these things easy.
They are no more and it is rare to see a scale model boat at Bourneville these days, just the wind and a prayer boys.
Ignore my comments if you wish and argue all you like, but upsetting your membership is not the way to promote the hobby.
RonP