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Title: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on March 24, 2010, 11:52:06 am
This is to be my next build.
I bought the kit second hand and am still waiting for parts.
I will put on photos when I start.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0250.jpg)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Mat_B on March 24, 2010, 01:09:59 pm
cool new build  :-))

but  {:-{

why is the hull blue?

Mat
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Mark47 on March 24, 2010, 01:29:21 pm
You seem to like your grey boats Dicky. O0
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on March 24, 2010, 02:13:14 pm
See you're not colour blind Mark, mind you I only have five grey ones out of fifteen.
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on March 24, 2010, 04:39:51 pm
... but it's blue!?!?    :P
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on March 24, 2010, 08:25:48 pm
Not you too, ask shipmate60 he'll tell you its grey. >>:-(
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: cbr900 on March 25, 2010, 01:27:20 pm
Richard,

I thought you were the one who was colour blind, but Bob must be as well because that hull is BLUE........... :-)) :-))


Roy
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on March 25, 2010, 01:48:24 pm
No the hull is not blue it is light grey, the flash makes it look blue. <*<
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on April 05, 2010, 05:30:51 pm
Right so I have made a start.

What I have here is part of a 1990s kit, [lots missing] an instruction book of 2000 vintage a drawing that doesnt really tie up with either and some sheets of plasticard.

Its a real head ache.

Have so far made a new rudder to replace the white metal one.

I have fitted the prop shafts and made the A frames.

The motors have been fitted.

A box made for the batteries.

And two strips of lead placed in the bottom of the hull.

It was then tested in the test tank and appears to be Ok for the water line, and everything works.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0253.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0254.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0256.jpg)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 05, 2010, 06:22:36 pm
Dicky,
1 tip is to run another actuator from the steering servo to the tiller head.
It gives far more positive steering and eliminates the possibility of the rudder going "over centre".
This one should give you lots to think about so take you longer to build, so far better value for money!!!

Bob
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Spook on April 05, 2010, 06:51:56 pm
Interesting!

My HMS Amethyst, bought new from Deans Marine within the past few months, also had parts missing, instructions that did not match the kit and the moulded parts (resin and metal) were not produced to a very high standard - quite poor in fact. The deck templates did not fit the hull properly - one template had to have about 7mm shaved off before it would fit and the transom template was a completely different shape to the hull and deck transom. The painting instructions contradict themselves in various places in the instructions, so I had to make a few educated guesses and took some artistic licence. I had to make up quite a few parts from scrap to finish it off, but there were some parts that I couldn't reproduce, so it's still incomplete, and will remain so, I'm afraid.

That said, after a lot of fiddling and bodging, it's not looking too bad, despite the ongoing patching-up after my disaster with the varnish. I'll post some pics when it's finished.

But the hull is white (well, it was before I painted it)

Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DARLEK1 on April 05, 2010, 11:58:16 pm
I have built many of Deans kits and know Ron Dean to speak to, there are I must say alot of shall I say Issues with some of the stuff, but I just get on with it and build and change what needs to be sorted in order to make the boat look right, Deans tends to give you the basics, some of the fittings that I got for my Dido class build where in the fittings set for the Dreadnaught build that I did , Problem being, erm no, those were not fitted to a Dido class in WW2 and on Dreadnaught in 1915 or what ever.
www.psships.com  for Dreadnaught, Dido, (HMS Hermione) is on here or I can now post pictures :o

 Paul... :-)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: John W E on April 07, 2010, 08:14:39 pm
Ah Dicky man

Not again, how many times have I told you - you have that rudder upside down again.

Looks good - we will make a scratch builder of ya yet!  :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))

Have you noticed the kits you are buying are getting less and less with regards to parts supplied....aye, it is all in the master plan my man

aye
john
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: TSpettel on April 14, 2010, 09:11:13 am
I just bought a kit of the HMS Amethyst and it arrived late last week.  none of the parts were missing and when i inspected them they
looked very good to me, the plans were alot better than my HMS Javalin kit.  well..... everything in the new HMS Amethyst kit is better
than my HMS Javalin kit.  the only thing that dident look right is the hull is "dished up" (not flat) on the bottom, but i can fix that with
some fibreglass bulkheads and epoxy no-problem-o. I do like Dean's kits, I have had alot of fun building my HMS Javalin.  you can see my
build thread on Deans forums under HMS Javalin..   I do plan to build my HMS Amethyst as the HMS Starling.
         Tom
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on April 14, 2010, 05:30:08 pm
Have done a bit more now.

The hull has been painted and the portholes epoxy'd in.

The deck hatches and coamings are all fitted and fixed.

Main work to superstructure is complete with a few details still to be done.

Have started fitting the fittings which will be as near as I can get them to right.

This is awkward as my drawings, instruction book, CD of photos and other plans I have obtained all refer to other ships of the class or of Amethyst after several refits.

Not to worry, I shall have a ship at the end of it.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0257.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0258.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0259.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0260.jpg)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Shipmate60 on April 14, 2010, 08:26:37 pm
Dicky.
She ain't looking so bad then!!!

Bob
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on April 14, 2010, 08:28:43 pm
Dont look too closely Bob. ok2
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on April 23, 2010, 06:06:36 pm
Have done a little bit more, most of which is scratch built.

Have made and fitted the two masts and the range finder and the break water.

I've made the 4" gun turrets and fitted them temporarily.

Made the guard nets behind B turret.

Fitted several more resin fittings

Just love scratch building just hope I live long enough to finish it.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0261.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0262.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0263.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0264.jpg)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on April 29, 2010, 05:37:37 pm
I have fixed the handrails and further fittings.

I have completed making the guns and ships boats.

Everything has been primed but still a way to go.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0266.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0267.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0268.jpg)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: farrow on April 29, 2010, 09:55:45 pm
Hi Dick, I will have to pick up shipmate60 and come over and have a close butchers, looks good to me .
Dave
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on April 29, 2010, 10:51:08 pm
Another DD object lesson in model boat building almost finished!   :-)

I for one, would be very interested in detailed tutorial of finishing and painting a styrene superstructure Dicky....
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Niall on April 30, 2010, 08:33:42 am
How to finish and paint styrene -

1) Ensure surfaces to be painted are clean and dust free.

2) Follow the instructions on the paint to be used.

3) If brush painting, use good quality brushes. To paint large surfaces I use 0.5" to 2" decorating brushes. For small areas and details the brushes I use are the OO, O, 1 and 3 sable brushes from the link below. I tried to buy similar quality brushes from an art shop several years ago and they were 3-4 times more expensive!
http://www.historexagents.com/shop/hxsearchresults.php?SupplierCode=BU
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: J.beazley on May 01, 2010, 01:07:32 pm
Blimey is there any boat that comes from the DickyD workshop that isnt outstanding  :o

Richard if you fancy a real challenge and plenty of scratch building Bob has the Richelieu hull in his loft which im still going to build but have other things to finish first.

Jay
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 07, 2010, 04:23:06 pm
Well it's all finished apart from the electrics, which all work but need some tidying up.

Thanks for the nice comments during the build and the one or two odd ones [John]

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0269.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0270.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF0271.jpg)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Klunk on May 07, 2010, 04:34:41 pm
Just been down to DickyD And dropped something off (yes from Luton!) and I must say the pictures really do not do the actual model justice. It is really a superb build! Hope you enjoy the box Dicky!!!
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 07, 2010, 04:38:31 pm
Will do when I'm allowed to open it Pete, mind you I have ordered the motors and brass props for when I do.
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Shipmate60 on May 07, 2010, 05:25:57 pm
That didn't take you long.

Bob
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: tt1 on May 07, 2010, 05:42:37 pm
Really does look A lovely model Dicky, can't believe the speed of construction and with scratch built parts to boot, let alone the time for all the contribution you make to this forum -  Well impressed. :-)) :-)) :-))
      How many is this now, (16?) :o

                             Regards, Tony.
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: John W E on May 07, 2010, 06:35:34 pm
Very nice Dicky, we'll make a scratch builder of you yet. {-)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 07, 2010, 08:03:57 pm
That didn't take you long.

Bob
Long enough Bob, quite enjoyed it in the end.
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 07, 2010, 08:05:31 pm
Really does look A lovely model Dicky, can't believe the speed of construction and with scratch built parts to boot, let alone the time for all the contribution you make to this forum -  Well impressed. :-)) :-)) :-))
      How many is this now, (16?) :o

                             Regards, Tony.

16 Tony, not allowed to start number 17 till July.
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 07, 2010, 08:06:14 pm
Very nice Dicky, we'll make a scratch builder of you yet. {-)

Never !!
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Tug-Kenny on May 07, 2010, 10:07:59 pm

You'd better build a Train next time, Richard.  Your going like one now.   ;)

Seriously a good build. Well done you.  Might come down to see it in the summer.

Cheers

Ken

Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 08, 2010, 09:48:34 am
You'd better build a Train next time, Richard.  Your going like one now.   ;)

Seriously a good build. Well done you.  Might come down to see it in the summer.

Cheers

Ken


Thanks Ken, it would be nice to see you again. :-))
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build Maiden Voyage
Post by: DickyD on May 16, 2010, 12:29:54 pm
Maiden voyage day today, so off to Setley Pond.

Typical spring day, cold, windy and raining.

She sailed well considering the conditions.

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF2677.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF2671.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF2670.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF2661.jpg)

(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/HMS%20Amethyst/DSCF2662.jpg)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Klunk on May 16, 2010, 05:58:13 pm
Very nice, hope it was not too heavy for swmbo!
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 16, 2010, 05:59:59 pm
She knew a man that could, Peter. %)
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Tug-Kenny on May 16, 2010, 10:00:26 pm

Looks just like the real thing. Smashing.

Ken

 
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: rem2007 on May 16, 2010, 11:23:20 pm
Outstanding build Richard!
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 17, 2010, 08:07:11 am
Thanks fellows.
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on May 17, 2010, 09:42:27 am
Lovely job Dicky.
 What props are those?
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 17, 2010, 09:46:04 am
Raboesch from Deans Martin. They are really excellent.
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: tt1 on May 17, 2010, 03:47:01 pm
Another cracker Richard, looks great on the water and she sits a treat to the waterline. So what's next?  %).
         Looking forward to another of your builds  O0

                             Cheers, Tony. :-))
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 17, 2010, 05:44:47 pm
Another cracker Richard, looks great on the water and she sits a treat to the waterline. So what's next?  %).
         Looking forward to another of your builds  O0

                             Cheers, Tony. :-))

HMS Javelin next Tony, in a month or so, to give the wifes pay packet a chance to catch up with me.
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Shipmate60 on May 17, 2010, 09:18:49 pm
Dicky,
Isnt it HMS Javelins?

Bob
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 18, 2010, 08:08:10 am
Still working on that Bob. ok2
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: brianc on May 20, 2010, 05:51:05 pm
Absolutly superb Richard.she looks stunning on the water :-))
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: DickyD on May 20, 2010, 05:56:51 pm
Thanks Bri, turned out alright in the end.

Still waiting to see your build on here. :-))
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: brianc on May 20, 2010, 06:01:38 pm
I`ll post a thread when I get some time mate,just don`t seem to have a lot of that at the moment  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: ramone on December 05, 2016, 08:13:20 pm
Hello , First time here and thank goodness for the marvel of the internet !

Started this model today from Deans Marine and glad I found the thread before starting it , without the clear pictures and hints I would have gone ahead with the plans ... having now looked at the 1mm deckplan of the boat I see that the hull is out of shape and will need to be brought in to match by almost 1/2 an inch to match.

By the way its not going to be HMS Amethyst but a similar black swan class sloop of the same era HMS Mermaid which my late father served with during his time aboard her.

It will be a static display hopefully by the time I finished I may have gotten some tips on doing a seascape for her to sit in. 

 

 

Title: Re: Deans HMS Amethyst build
Post by: Tug-Kenny on December 05, 2016, 08:35:01 pm

Hi Ramone and welcome to Mayhem.   :-))

Please feel free to start a build blog and ask any questions you may have

Cheers

ken