Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Submarines => Topic started by: bassplayer1 on May 10, 2010, 01:33:35 pm
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This is my new project and I thought I'd share it with you! She is 1.75m long at 1/32 scale. All made up of blue foam covered with glass and epoxy. I'm working on the details write now and when is finished it's going to be used as the master to pull the molds from. Still a lot of work to be done but I enjoy every minute of it! (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/0153.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/061.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/062.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/0602.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/012.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/013.jpg)
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Another interesting project Yannis. Can you post any pics of the real boat ?
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What type of tool do you use to make those engravings in the resin?
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I use OLFA's scriber, a carbite scriber, needle file and small diameter drill bits for the rivets. Here is a photo. (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/angelman/156.jpg)
Duncan I'll post some photos of the reall thing later on
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Stunning work Yannis ! Something different is always interesting to us sub nuts on a global scale
I know a few of us would be keen to own such a model
How about starting a build thread so we can follow your progress
Best Regards,Donuts
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Thanks Donuts, I'll be posting as the work proceeds but it's going to be a little slow due to the luck of time.
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Here are some photos of the real thing! (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/rc%20aeroplanes/S1171.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/rc%20aeroplanes/S116-DIVING.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/rc%20aeroplanes/S119_2.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/rc%20aeroplanes/s119.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/rc%20aeroplanes/S118.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/rc%20aeroplanes/s117.jpg)
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Yannis-- I was just out running my 1/32nd type 202 in the pond and thought, "I haven't been on MBM in a long time" so I log in and scan through this forum and see what I've been missing. What a fantastic build. Being a fellow Greek I'm always on the lookout for something Hellenic and wow does this fit the bill. Excellent work. 1.75m is a nice working size and looks great on the water. Good luck.
Mike
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Thank you very much Mike! Where do you come from originally?
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My family comes from Crete and Cephalonia but have been in the US since WWI then WWII. A great project you have there. I've had great difficulty searching for information on post-war Hellenic submarines. This is going to be a spectacular model when completed.
Mike
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Hallo to you all!
I did some work on the type 209! I started scribing the panels on the base of the coning tower and did the torpedo doors. I'm also trying to simulate the battered panel infront of the sonar dome! Tricky job and I hope it works!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/057.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0592.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0604.jpg)
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very cool indeed, and like what you did to the front as regards the dents!!!!!!!!!
How did you achieve this please?
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Thank you very much Voyager!
For the dents I used a drill bit very carefully and then I smoothed them down by brushing on a two pack filler. It takes a couple or three coats.
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I decided to have a brake from scribing and detailing and the last couple of days I made the odd shaped prop. It's not finished yet as it needs soldering and polishing. I hope it works OK in the water too!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0672.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0662.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0652.jpg)
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0643.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0623.jpg)
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Thanks for the quick reply!
I wouldn't mind giving that a go on one of my next projects. I wonder if I might get a similar effect If I were to use an engraving tool on my Mini-Craft drill instead of a drill bit?
Also, your set of scribers, do you use some sort of brass templates to obtain the right curves?
Regards: Voyager.
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nice sub and prop, how did you cut the slots for the blades.?
Peter
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on the real sub, what is the bow made of that it dents this way? I can see from the photos of the real sub that your attempt is close to what happens on to the real sub.
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Thanks for the quick reply!
I wouldn't mind giving that a go on one of my next projects. I wonder if I might get a similar effect If I were to use an engraving tool on my Mini-Craft drill instead of a drill bit?
Also, your set of scribers, do you use some sort of brass templates to obtain the right curves?
Regards: Voyager.
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Your idea with the engraving tool is really good! As for the templates I make my own out of card or fiber glass sheet.
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nice sub and prop, how did you cut the slots for the blades.?
Peter
I covered the hub with a piece of masking tape wich was previously marked with the positions and angle of the blades. Then I used a hacksaw very carefully to make the grooves.
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on the real sub, what is the bow made of that it dents this way? I can see from the photos of the real sub that your attempt is close to what happens on to the real sub.
It's made of steel and I think it's being "hummered" while hot to get the curvy shape! That's why you get this effect!
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what a great job !!!!
Do love your sub !
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Hallo everyone!
Just a small update(it's too hot to work down here). I made the basses of the dive planes and top rudder and also I corrected the lower rudder. Did some dry fitting to get an idea how she looks!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0012.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/005.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/007.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0092.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0112.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0123.jpg)
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Yannis you are doing a brilliant job on this submarine but if its too hot to work out there
you should get yourself on the a sailing boat and go across to Sagiada (stopping for a swim on the way)
Have a nice meal of grilled prawns at Aliki's Taverna and sail back to Gouvia - was my favourite day trip
when we kept the boat out there - a beautiful place to live.
Geoff
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That's a brilliant idea Geoff!!! When I get some free time I'll do it! You probably know my brother Spyros? He's the guy who does the fiber glass repairs in Gouvia Marina!
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OH MY GOOOD...i do not have words to say...but excellent work...ohhh....Sir..will it submerge fully...?
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Thank you for the nice coment sir! Yes, it's going to be fully operational!
Regards to beautifull India
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God...thanks once again for the effort....will you add some videos in youtube after making it...please....its too inspiring...
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Sure I will my friend but it's going to take some time! I still have a lot of work to do till is completelly finished!
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indeed....and nice...i am waiting for that to see it explores the waters....ohh..yummy....
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Thank you Rathi
I hope soon enough to start moulding the beast!
Yannis
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OHH..great..thanks once again...
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Hallo to everyone!
Almost finished with the battered panels at the bow and the front of the conning tower and started the scopes , snorkel and radar. Did some dry fitting to see what they look like. They are made of aluminium tube, brass rod and plasticard! I used also a bit of balsa to form the shape of the snorkel body before it was covered with a thin styrene sheet.
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/130.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/128.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0013.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/043.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0362.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/047.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0024.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0063.jpg)
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Hallo everyone!
Finally I finished with the scribing and stuff and she was given the final coat of a two pack filler! Next I'm going to sand her with a fine wet & dry to get a smooth finish and all it's left is to add one more detail on the bow.
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/041.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0423.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/131.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0833.jpg)
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I did all the fine sanding on the conning tower and I started preparing it for molding. It was given one coat of sealer & glaze to block all the pores and tomorow I'll start on the dreaded waxing.
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/049.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/050.jpg)
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Wow!! Keep up the good work, it will be a great model when finished :-))
Thanks for sharing
Phil.
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MAN You are REALY good.Don't stop.Is going to be a quite peace of work.And Thank You for sharing.
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Thanks a lot guys!!!
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Hello everyone!
The dirty job has started and here are some pictures of the process!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/051.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/052.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0034.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0073.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0093.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0103.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0222.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0152.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0162.jpg)
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:-)) this is Fantastic! thankyou for sharing with us
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Good evening!
Finished with the mold! It needs a good cleaning now and the I'm going to start waxing again to produce the first part. It didn't come out as good as expected but it'll do for now! I'm going to remold the part at a later stage.
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0182.jpg)
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0203.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0223.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/045.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/033.jpg)
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Taking advantage of the time between wax coats I made the final detail on the deck just behind the sonar dome. I used a piece of mesh cut to shape and it was glued in place with a small amount of cyano. Then it was covered with self adhesive aluminium tape and was pressed with an eraser to take the weave of the mesh. I'm quite pleased with the resault! Sorry about the black & white photos but something went wrong with the camera!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/135.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/1362.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/137.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/141.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/1422.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/1432.jpg)
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Hello
Finished with the sail at last and the first piece came out of the mold quite allright! Here are the results!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/144.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/289.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/291.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/438.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/439.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/441.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/444.jpg)
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OH..my respected friend..i do not have any known word to write here...how excellent model maker you are...i dream about to work with you all to finish and operate such model...ahhh..its too nice..keep working..
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Thank you very much indeed Rathi !!!
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Yannis, How is sunny Corfu and how is the build coming along, I am really looking forward to the next update.
Geoff
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Sunny Corfu I hear you say? Only 6 degrees Celsium and we are freezing to death!!! I haven't done much lately due to the luck of time! To busy at work!!! Hopefully things will get back to normal soon so I can get some time to get back at it! I can't wait!!!
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Wonderfull work, we will start the project 209/1400 in 2011
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That looks really cool!!!
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Hai Bass...have you compleated your music programmes..? and back to models..? ahh...aiting to see some videos from you...have a nice time..
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Hi Rathi
Finished with all that rehearsing stuff and things are getting back to normal! I'll be back at it pretty soon!!! :-))
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thank you..and god may bless you to make more models...
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Just a small update! Sorry but I'm not having a lot of time lately due to work obligations and the project goes really slowly! I cut the hull as shown in the photos and that's because I'm going to mold the deck and subsail in RTV while the main hull is going to be molded in GRP. Molding it like this also gives me the option to produce all three types of Type 209 by changing the deck! That is 209/1100, 209/1200 and 209/1200AIP(ofcaurse convertion kits are going to be made). Also I spent some time making the WTC's and added some more details to the hull and deck!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0035.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0015.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/1303.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/1152.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0085.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0074.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/S109.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/105.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0053.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0084.jpg)
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By the way MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR to everyone!!! :-))
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Hi Yannis Nice to see its still going forward even if not at your usual speed. Hope you have a great Christmas and New Year.
Geoff
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Hai Bass...ohh amazing..again...nice ork...and Merry Christmas and Happy new year...
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Nice work, god luck for the next year.
http://www.projekt209.de/
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Nice work, god luck for the next year.
http://www.projekt209.de/
Thank you very much sir! I went through your site and I must say your work is fantastic!!! Beautifull model !!!
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No,no that`s not my boat, we vill start the projekt this year.
this is the boat from our friend Jörg Behlau
greetings
Anne
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Oh! That's a surprise! Another lady modeller! Good luck with your project and please keep us posted! I'm interested on that boat myself too, is there any chance to get a set of plans and if so where do I get them from!
Regards Yannis
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HAPPY NEW YEAR to You All My Friends!.
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Happy New Year to you too Bijou!!! Happy New Year to everyone!!! :-)) Think of me tonight because I'm going to be working 'till about 7.30 in the morning!!! That's the cost of being a musician, I always work when everybody else is having a party!!! >>:-(
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Just a small update! Added some details on the top of the sail and now is ready for molding in RTV.
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0452.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0462.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0492.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0502.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0512.jpg)
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if I it understand properly you build the boat with wtc.
Have you already thought about the compressed air diving system ?
Like we in Germany do it.
www. pressluftjunkies.de (register)
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I'm going to use an aspirated ballast tank! A valve to fill the tank and an air pump to blow it back to the surface! That will be my first attempt of making something like this! I usually use a water pump with a bludder!
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@bassplayer1 in a couple of words:You are a living example for many of as.Thank You for every thing. :-) :-))
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Hallo everyone!
I'm back at full throtle this time and here is what I've been up to! Cut the hull in the middle and corrected and added some more details! Waxing has started and by the end of this week I'm going to start molding! More to come!!!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0065-1.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/1002.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/1012.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/102.jpg)
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Hi Yannis good to see you back again, the sub is looking really good.
Geoff
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Wow Yannis! I lost trrack of this build thread for some reason. You've made fantastic progress on her.
Mike
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Thank you guys for your kind words and... oh boy....molding has started! :}
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/154.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/156.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/158.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/157.jpg)
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Some more photos and a couple of videos just for the fun of it! I hope I don't bore you to death!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0086.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0105.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0163.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0183.jpg)
And the videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFriAmuY7So&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycXO09CAG60&feature=related
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Hallo my friends
The mold of the lower half of the hull is finaly ready! It just needs triming, cleaning and polishing and then start waxing again! Getting there!!!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0124.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0142.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0155.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0114.jpg)
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More progres!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0164.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0174.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0205.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0194.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0087.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0106.jpg)
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Nice bit of GRP work there. Do you use PVA as well as wax for the release?
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Thank you very much Subculture! I use PVA only on the "difficult" spots although it's not the right way but it works for me! :-))
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Okay that's nice to know. I find everyone I speak to about laminating has a slightly different method.
How many coats of wax do you put on? I use Simoniz carnauba wax, just been prepping some moulds as the weather has been perking up a bit lately. I have given them eight coats, buffing in between each coat, they're lovely and shiny now. I was debating whether to apply PVA or not- they're fairly simple moulds with no undercuts.
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I put ten to twelve coats buffing in between each one. In the picture are the brands I use preferably the one on the right especialy on new molds! Eight coats you're about right but I wouldn't risk it just in case! If I was you I'd put a couple more coats just to be on the safe side! Spraying a mist of PVA it would be even better, that's the proper way after all. Up to you!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/398.jpg)
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A little progres on the back end of the top hull. Getting there!!!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/245.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/025.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0232.jpg)
And finally I pulled out from the mold the bottom half of the hull. I think it turned out pretty good! Quite pleased with it!!!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/027.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/029.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/030.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0322.jpg) (http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/035.jpg)
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Todays' progres! I opened the flood holes at the stern and the openings for the dive-surfase vanes at the bow(I'm still itching!)
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/0393.jpg)
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Ηallo there
More work has been done! Finished with the hull and now all that is left is to mold the decks in RTV! Some pictures and a video! Helper is my son Angelos!
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http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/cfTi6wlrNy0
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Its really coming along now Yannis - where are you going to sail her - no lakes that I can recall on Corfu but plenty
of hotel swimming pools.
Geoff
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Thanks a lot Geoff!!! I usually go in the pool at Gouvia Marina or in the Athletic Centre by the airport. It has a huge pool but sometimes the personel get funy about it! Sometimes they let me, sometimes they don't! Another option I have is the RC Hotel wich is located on the hills oposite Gouvia. Once a while I get brave enough and play in the sea(periscope depth).
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Good evening everyone!
I did some progress molding the deck and here are some photos!
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Hallo everyone!
Weather is picking up down here and so is the mood!!! Here are some pictures of the progress it's been made lately! Finally I've started assembling the beast and so far everything works as expected!
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Good evening everyone!
Did some work on the separation line of the upper and lower hull and the only place that needed some filling it was infront of the dive planes. Also added some details on the deck and the rudders-dive planes. Here is some photos!
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Hallo everyone
I've finished with the periscope mechanism and here is three videos of how it works!
http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/fmrX5BHBi5c http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/mrkiCUWUYlc http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/2/cRUljAV2c8Q
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Excellent Yannis. :-)) :-)) :-))
Geoff
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That works very well.
Is that a pneumatic system?
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Excellent Yannis. :-)) :-)) :-))
Geoff
Thank you very much Geoff
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That works very well.
Is that a pneumatic system?
No, it's not pneumatic! It works with a geared pump! Thanks for your nice coment!
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Aaah so hydraulic!
Water at 1 Bar or so from the gear pump?
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Don't know really but I can assure you, to my surprise, that pump is really strong!
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Good evening everyone!
Added some more details on deck and sail. Also today it was the first encounter with water just to get a rough idea of how she behaves and how big the ballast tank should be! Conclusions are...1) Stability problems wich means that I'll have to keep the CG really low in the hull. 2) The ballast tank will be smaller than expected and 3) It takes a lot of effort pulling her out of the water, nearly broke my back today! Definately is a job for two! Here is some photos!
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Looking very good!
You will need to get going with foam and lead below the waterline and you do have a lot of (heavy??) equipment in the sail.
My favourite lifting aid are two, old cam belts from diesel trucks. (They are very strong and stiff enough to place under the sub in the water. They are also long enough so that you can lift it by straightening your knees. No need to bend your back!)
:-)
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Thank you Davy1, very good idea!!! :-))
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Hallo everyone!
Making the WTC and the main ballast tank. The pipe going through the tank is for the trim tank.
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Greetings from damn hot Corfu!
This is what I've been up to lately. I'm still working on the WTC and also made the bow planes mechanism! This is my second attempt and it's based on the original plans of the real thing! Works a treat!
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Hallo everyone!
Progress is really slow due to other obligations but getting there! Finished with the WTC and it was tested for water leakage! Passed the test so I've started putting in all the bits and pieces and also I've installed the prop shaft and prop! Here is some pictures and a video!
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http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee
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Just finished with the bow planes mechanism! Only needs minor adjustments and will work a treat! It's based on the plans of the original. Here is a video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT1jIvHU9XA
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Yannis, thats a superb model, and superb modelling!
Couple of questions: in the real one do the periscope suite all go up and down together as per your model or have you taken liberties? Also, why are the bow planes asymmetric? Do they counteract torque I wonder?
David
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I believe the hydroplanes are designed for small submarines where space is at a premium, the Type 202 submarines of the post war Federal German Navy used this system. If you notice, there is no up and down pivoting, only proportional deploying outboard of the hydropane bit by bit. One side is used to rise and one side to dive, quite clever really.
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Ah, I see!! No, not quite clever...VERY clever. Thats what today would be called "thinking outside the box"!
Thanks for the info
D
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Yannis,
Really beautiful work.
A question though - I'm having difficulty understanding your control arm mechanism for the bow planes. I'm working on a Type 202 with similar asymmetrical bow planes so I need a system like yours if not exactly the same. Would it be possible to show a few more pictures of the bow planes in various positions so I can study the relative position of the control arms? Right now, it looks to me that a motion of the control arm running towards the pressure hull will cause both planes to go either in or out at the same time and I know that's not correct. One plane should move in as the other moves out (I think).
Thanks for your time,
Dan
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David the unbuiltnautilus answer is spot on, I hope it covers your question! Thanks for the nice comment!
Dan, if you watch the video carefully I think you'll find your answer! The secret is the 45 degrees dead angle that is being produced as the pivot turns! Very simple, very effective and very clever! If you like I'll be more than happy to send you the plans! Thanks for the nice comment!
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Hi everyone!
Solved the problem with stability and started triming the beast! Also tested all the systems and they work as they should! By the looks of it I'm going to need about another six pounds of lead ballast to bring her on the correct water line! See how it goes! More to come!
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Yannis,
Thanks. I missed seeing the link to the video. The video shows the mechanism very well - I understand.
Dan
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Yannis, thats a superb model, and superb modelling!
Couple of questions: in the real one do the periscope suite all go up and down together as per your model or have you taken liberties? Also, why are the bow planes asymmetric? Do they counteract torque I wonder?
David
Sorry David, I forgot to answer this part of your question! In the real one the periscopes go up and down in two different groups but that was a bit to much for me so I took liberties! Maybe later on I'll do it properly!
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Some more trials today and everything works just fine! She stands on the corect water line now and only needs some fine triming wich I'll do on Sunday I hope! Photos and videos attached!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/zrQZh-vxb6E
http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/gAiR8lDb5BI
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Some more pictures and a video of the triming stage in a proper pool this time!
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http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/zqPoWud0aZM
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Also managed to add some details and next thing is to sand the whole boat with fine grade sandpaper(wet) and prepare it for the final coat of paint! More to come!
Regards from rainy and depressing Corfu!
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Hi Yannis - she looks really good in the water and so close to being finished. You will have to start thinking/planning
your next build
Geoff
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That's right Geoff, I have allready something on my mind!!! :-)) Thanks for the kind words!
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Looking Good Yannis,
Any updates???
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Looking Good Yannis,
Any updates???
Thanks for the kind words!!! As about updates..... {:-{...haven't done much lately apart from almost finishing the scopes and antenas! Being pretty busy at work lately doesn't leave me with enough spare time! Here is some pictures!
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Merry Cristmas and a Happy New Year full of nice new projects to everyone!!!
Best regards
Yannis
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Finished with the scopes and their mechanism at last! I didn't use the hydraulic mechanism I made earlier because it wouldn't fit after making the new WTC ( I should of known better >:-o) I made a new one with an electric motor and jackscrew and works fine! Here is some pictures and videos!
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http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/2/0A3sdlHC0Gw
http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/va522Xuc4GU
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Yannis that looks very efficient - but not being any type of engineer i wondered how you kept the
electrics dry.
Geoff
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Geoff as you can see the motor is in its own water tight box and the end switches are of the waterproof type! The only thing I did it was to waterproof the terminals with silicone sealant! Did a test in the bath tub and everything works fine so far! Hope it stays that way!!!
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Did some more work adding more details and correcting the hand rail on the sail. Not quite finished yet but here is some pictures!
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That watertight deck hatch is simply stunning work -- you continue to amaze!
David
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Superb Yannis...absolutely superb workmanship.
Rich
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That watertight deck hatch is simply stunning work -- you continue to amaze!
David
Thanks David!!! Much apreciated!!!
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Superb Yannis...absolutely superb workmanship.
Rich
Thank you very much Rich!!!
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Hey Yannis,
take this: :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
regards
Sascha
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That's very kind of you Sascha!!! Thank you very much!!!
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Did some corrections on a couple of deck panels and finally painted the boat its final coat! Also sprayed the pennant number and hopefully tommorow I'm going to start doing some weathering!!!
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Weathering has started and so far so good! (I think?)
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Finished with the weathering and also completed the triming of the boat! Hopefully sometime this week I'll do some proper sea trials! Here is some pictures and videos!
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http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/2/LmT3ihDV9WA
http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/cUHB2RNw9Ow
http://www.youtube.com/user/bassplayer12100?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/vl_0PBT30Rw
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Excellent weathering job, keep up the good work :-))
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Superb Yannis...absolutely superb. My heartiest congratulations!!
Rich
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Yannis that weathering really looks great - must be nice to have it finished.
Geoff
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Gentlemen, thank you very much for your kind words!!!
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@bassplayer1
As You know by now I am fascinated about what cams out from Your hands.Looks astonishing.Absolutely Beautiful.
Regards
MARIUS
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Hi bassplayer1
I really love the weathering :-)) What have you used to stop it being washed off in the water?
Dave:)
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Thank you very much Marius!!!
Dave, I didn't use anything to seal it simply because it's just Humbrol paints! I didn't use any pastels or powders! Thank you for your kind words!
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Did some trials in salt water and I'm quite pleased with it! Only needs some extra weight! Couldn't take any pictures in action as I was on my own! I'll do that tomorow, weather permiting, with my son after he finishes school.
Geoff, any idea where that place is? :}
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Not many clues there Yannis - Im guessing Gouvia Marina. It really looks good now its finished. Well done on an excellent model
Geoff
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That's right Geoff!!! Right oposite the sea planes' hangar! Thanks for the nice coment!
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A wonderful model.
I was watching the video of it diving in the test tank and it occurred to me that, if it were not for the background, it would be really hard for me to tell if was a video of a model or a full-size submarine. Really impressive work.
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Blimey thats impressive now. The tank noises etc make it sound like a dockyard! its almost frightening!
D
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Thank you very much my friends!!!
Today it was a sunny lovely day and here is some pictures and videos of how we took advantage of it!!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MwRX8JIeyU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImWN4yLXfVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hap7wHYbnk8
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2 words
WANT ONE! O0
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You can have one!!! :-))
Here is one more video of yesterday!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rLtX8ATgno
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Ηallo everyone
We had a great time with "ΑΜΦΙΤΡΙΤΗ" (Amphitrete) a few days ago!!! Here is some pictures and videos!
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/DSCF7399.jpg)
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/DSCF7454.jpg)
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/DSCF7436.jpg)
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/DSCF7412.jpg)
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/DSCF7433.jpg)
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/DSCF7400.jpg)
(http://i824.photobucket.com/albums/zz162/koytagia/submarines/DSCF7421.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiTrB_DdO38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIhtbFaC2Jk
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Yannis you really have done a splendid job - congratulations.
I could just make out my old berth in the background of one of the vids - wish I still had the boat out there now
Geoff
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Thank you Geoff! Much appreciated!
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Good evening!!
Look what happened to day while testing a torpedo!!! The back of it got loose due to bad glueing or I over did it with the gas!!! The fun starts at 2.00 :o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wATuGQI2_IY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wATuGQI2_IY)
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Wow, glad it didn't happen in the boat !
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Hi Yannis you should get it right with just a bit of "tweeking" and it will look
very impressive if you can launch the torpedoes from the tubes.
I wondered what you had been up to since you finished Amphitrite - do you have other
plans as well??
Geoff
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Wow, glad it didn't happen in the boat !
Or in my hands while filling it !!! Thank God for that!!
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Hi Yannis you should get it right with just a bit of "tweeking" and it will look
very impressive if you can launch the torpedoes from the tubes.
I wondered what you had been up to since you finished Amphitrite - do you have other
plans as well??
Geoff
Hi Geoff, I will do that! I'm also working on a new project (submarine) wich to my knowlege has never been modeled before ! I will post some pictures when I'm good and ready! :-))
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bassplayer1 :-)) .........even the underwater sounds are VERY realistic .... {-) .....metallic, water, explosion <*< ...........Derek
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I thought I share it with you!
https://youtu.be/ovuBaJNK5mo
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Very nice :-))
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Lovely stuff!
Thanks for sharing it.
David
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Thank you very much indeed for the nice words!!!
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"ΑΜΦΙΤΡΙΤΗ"'s first torpedo shoot! Everything worked out just fine :-))
https://youtu.be/02k0tFQySWA
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Love it! Want one :-))