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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail => Topic started by: Dekan on June 20, 2010, 12:38:50 pm

Title: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on June 20, 2010, 12:38:50 pm
I was thinking of building a Thunder Power Victoria, but I have had to shelve the idea, as the pond I want to use is only about a foot deep :((
A Robbie Rainbow 11 is ok and a Comtesse  should be ok a 210mm draft.

Any other Yacht Kits with a low draft I should consider? I have been told that a Micro Magic is just about ok if the pond is full... <:(
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Jimmy James on June 20, 2010, 08:56:52 pm
You might try a Cat or a Trimaran
Freebooter
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on June 20, 2010, 10:25:11 pm
Not thought of that jimmy... any kits I should look at?
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Islander1951 on June 21, 2010, 09:21:13 am
I just (roughly) measured the draft on my Thunder Tiger Victoria, and it's under ten inches.
So if you have a foot of water, should be fine.
My opinion; forget the R.Rainbow, horrible! 

Edward.
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Drkomen86 on June 21, 2010, 10:57:56 am
Im not sure but could you not take a standard hull design and fit a Bilge Keel of half the size of the normal keel, so 12" keel = prob a 7" Bilge keel.
Just an idea  :-)
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: tobyker on June 21, 2010, 11:21:38 am
Fit an Australia type winged keel as seen on the Largs MBC galleons. I'm sure Norry could send you a photo if asked. (ie sit the hull on a half inch thick lead plate - works as a stand as well!)
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on June 22, 2010, 10:45:14 pm
Thanks for the info guys, I will have another look at the Victoria again and this time take a ruler ok2

The wing and bilge keel idea are interesting ideas but i'm not up on them...More research required
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: tigertiger on June 24, 2010, 03:16:59 am
My Thunder Tiger Victoria is 9 inch draft. No problem in shallow water.

Stay away from the cheap Chinese RTRs. Guaranteed to dissapoint.
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on June 28, 2010, 07:40:55 pm
Thanks Tiger, They have new yacht called the Odyssey... The Victoria seems to out of stock with most LHS in the UK... Has it been replace by the Odyssey?
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: tigertiger on June 29, 2010, 03:22:14 am
The Victoria is still in existance. It has a big following'

The Odyssey is also significantly smaller.

Vic. 78cm
Ody 61cm

17cm at that scale is a BIG difference.

I looked at the Odyssey before buying the Victoria. The former looks much smaller. In addition, size matters when it comes to performance. I am not sure how the Odyssey would fare in stronger winds.

Personally I would shop around and try to find someone who has a Victoria in stock. Or wait, or try another boat of about 80cm in length with a reasonable draft. I am not sure of the draft on the MicroMagic, another boat that comes highly recommended.
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on June 29, 2010, 06:45:31 am
Tiger, As the pond I want to sailin in is very small, smaller may be better. The Micro magic works ok, but the keel grounds if the water level drops couple of inches.
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: tigertiger on June 29, 2010, 09:36:07 am
Have you thought about building a 'footy'?
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: norry on June 29, 2010, 10:13:53 am
...Good Morning Guys...

There is a model of "PRINCE WILLEM" at Richmond...I will get some pictures of the keel and post them tomorrow...

...Best Regards...Norry...
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Timo2 on June 29, 2010, 01:18:39 pm
Hi All

       Go have some fun  try     http://www.aquataurmodels.com/index.html

    Only about 5" draft

     and great fun to sail

  Timo2  :-))
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Drkomen86 on June 29, 2010, 03:38:54 pm
WOW !!!
they look ace  :-)
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on June 29, 2010, 05:06:00 pm
Have you thought about building a 'footy'?

Yep. but no kits in the UK....
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: tigertiger on June 30, 2010, 01:50:27 am
Yep. but no kits in the UK....

These kits may still be available. £30 + £3.50 p&p
http://footy.rcsailing.net/mya-kit.pdf
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on June 30, 2010, 05:00:03 pm
Hmm...The email address fails any idea Tiger how old the pdf is? Answered it myself I checked the file properties created in  2006....
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: malcolmfrary on June 30, 2010, 05:55:19 pm
How about these for shallow water?
http://www.christopher-wyn-brown.co.uk/modelboats/page4.html
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: alan colson on June 30, 2010, 07:50:56 pm
Hi Dekan, I have just purchased a model of an 8metre yacht. This is being produced by a member of a local club. It is superb quality, comes with a colour choice, the hull is fitted with keel weight included, rudder fitted, deck and sails, all for a very reasonable £135. If tis sounds interesting PM me fo more details. By the way, the reason for your question in the beginning, it has a draft of about 9 inches.
Alan
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on June 30, 2010, 09:03:45 pm
Thanks Alan, any pics?
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: norry on June 30, 2010, 09:21:57 pm
...Good Evening Guys...

Here are some pictures of the keel on "PRINCE WILLEM"
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on June 30, 2010, 09:52:13 pm
Just the thing for a small pond  :}
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: malcolmfrary on July 01, 2010, 11:26:09 am
Just the thing for a small pond  :}
Somewhere to put the small pond.  {-)

Just thought of another candidate for sailing in a shallow pond
http://www.rcmodels.co.uk/product_info.php/products_id/45?osCsid=ab622827e6e488a45551297a02b62472
Aussie 11 benefits from a few mods, but is good for small, shallow ponds.  Hopefully its still available.
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on July 01, 2010, 05:14:00 pm
Somewhere to put the small pond.  {-)

Just thought of another candidate for sailing in a shallow pond
http://www.rcmodels.co.uk/product_info.php/products_id/45?osCsid=ab622827e6e488a45551297a02b62472
Aussie 11 benefits from a few mods, but is good for small, shallow ponds.  Hopefully its still available.
That looks just about right.... I will google it
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: alan colson on July 01, 2010, 05:37:43 pm
Many pictures of 8metre yachts on Southwater Dabblers Model Boat Club website
Alan
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on July 01, 2010, 06:54:31 pm
Sorry Alan... but they look way to big
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: alan colson on July 01, 2010, 07:02:37 pm
The 8metre is about 40" long and about 9lbs in weight, keel to top of mast 66".
Alan
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on July 02, 2010, 06:37:08 am
66" is a bit too tall to fit in my Citroen C1
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on July 04, 2010, 02:30:04 pm
I went to a local boat club today. One of the guys let me sail his Thunder Tiger Victoria for 30mins.Thanks Peter

I was very impressed with the kit,several guys had them, fantastic value for money and they seem not to need much water under them  :-))..and they handle quite a breeze.


So all I need now is to find a dealer who actually has one in stock :-)
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: tigertiger on July 04, 2010, 02:46:45 pm
Useful find. :-))
If the other guys at the club have Victorias you will be able to sail with them if they do friendly competitions.
And they will be able to give you advice on tuning the boat so it sails faster. O0

Always nice to sail with others with the same boats. :-))
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on July 04, 2010, 03:26:52 pm
Tiger, They used to race the Victoria but now they just sail them for fun.
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Islander1951 on July 04, 2010, 07:32:00 pm
Fun races are the best kind!   :-)) 

    Edward.
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: malcolmfrary on July 04, 2010, 08:37:07 pm
Fun races are the best kind!   :-)) 

    Edward.
2 yachts on same piece of water = race   :-))
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on July 05, 2010, 07:01:52 pm
No stock until August.... :(( Graupner micro magic is a possiblity but its smaller boat..Anybody go any experience of the Victoria's smaller brother the Odyssey II
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Islander1951 on July 06, 2010, 08:30:20 am
Westbourne seem to have it in stock

Edward.
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on July 06, 2010, 05:03:23 pm
Nah.. emailed  yesterday...:((
Title: Re: Low draft Yacht
Post by: Dekan on July 08, 2010, 05:52:44 pm
I weakened and ordered the Thunder Tiger Victoria from my LHS TJD...August some time according to Amerang,the importer...