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Mess Deck: General Section => Tugs and Towing => Topic started by: Charlie on July 03, 2010, 08:30:07 pm

Title: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Charlie on July 03, 2010, 08:30:07 pm
This would make a great model:

http://www.shipsmonthly.com/news/473815/new-mini-tug-built-for-training


(http://s4.postimage.org/ATXer.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVATXer)

(http://s2.postimage.org/jHJcJ.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsjHJcJ)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: toesupwa on July 03, 2010, 09:12:37 pm
Has been discussed on my MHT thread over on RC Groups...

Looks rather like the MHT... i think i have a mole in the system!..  <*<
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Geoff Cropper on July 04, 2010, 12:18:19 pm
Maybe it should be named "Ivor Shorthouse"  {-) O0
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Voyager on July 09, 2010, 06:31:07 pm
That's possibly the strangest boat I have ever seen, it's bizzare  %%
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on January 02, 2011, 05:53:19 pm
Hi All,   New guy here just looking around for a tug to build.  Would love something different and recently came across the BRATT Tug.  I would alos like to build this tug if plans are available or drawings.  Anyone have any thoughts?  Or a tug of this size?  Thanks all,  Steve
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on January 02, 2011, 09:35:08 pm
I don't think there are that many 26 foot tugs with this style of profile.

Here are couple drawings that could be worked from...

http://www.towingline.com/archives/654

 :-)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on January 02, 2011, 10:30:28 pm
Thanks for that link.  I just sent off an email to the designer to see if it would be possible to get some drawings.  We will see......
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: captain ron on January 02, 2011, 10:56:12 pm
Hi guys if you look on www.macduffshipdesign.com you will find lodsa small and interesting tug/workboats.

Just click on the design tab at the top of the page and you will go to the varies designs, click on these and you will get all the details and a GA drawing.

If you click on the gallery tab then you'll get good photos of the tugs ( and other ships they produce )

A real interesting site.

captain ron
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: tobyker on January 02, 2011, 11:21:55 pm
Beautiful boats - I found the pictures etc in the "News" section really interesting. TVM
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on January 03, 2011, 12:57:20 am
I completely forgot about Macduff ship designs.
I actually have quite a bit of information archived about the Macduff boats...  %)
 

Thanks for that link.  I just sent off an email to the designer to see if it would be possible to get some drawings.  We will see......

Robert Allan was the Marine Architect that found his designs being built in China, after sending a set of
those plans to a boat modeler.  There was legal action, and many design firms stopped sharing out plans
after the incident.  Just a month ago, Robert Allan posted on our local boards, and "issued a cease and desist" to
a modeler that was posting a build up of one of RA designs.  It probably wouldn't have been an issue, but
the modeler had gotten a hold of hull lines from a builder, and posted a partial image of the lines.
They C&D order was posted by the time the thread got to the second page, four days...  {:-{

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1338105&highlight=rastar#post16545114

However, if you can build from the photos and other public information, go crazy....
I built the Fireboat that Robert Allan designed, and had no issues.  :-))
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on January 03, 2011, 10:57:58 pm
Got a reply today from Robert Allen.  It's a no go from them.  Kind of figured that anyway but it was a shot.  No I have to desing my own little tug.
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: captain ron on January 04, 2011, 12:03:23 am
I'm sure Model Boats issued a feature and plan of the Sea Helper designed by Macduff.

It was 1/16 scale so made a pretty chunky wee tug.

If you go onto the Macduff site you will see photos of it.

You could easily modify it to suit other small tug boats using the hull lines from the plan.

Hope this helps

captain ron
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on January 06, 2011, 11:24:31 pm
Well, I have decided to build my own and have the hull laid out, green potting foam between the ribs and all faired out, and a layer of Durams Rock Hard Putty on the whole thing.  I will try and post a couple pictures tomorrow or so.  It is going to be about 15 inches long by 9 inches wide.  The hull bottom is pretty rounded, but will have a nice size keel.  I am thinking of one Z drive.   Any thoughts on what I could use for the fenders like on the BRATT?
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on January 07, 2011, 02:31:45 am
Here is another look at the BRAtt hull form...  ok2

http://adrenalinmarine.ca/photos.html
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: rathikrishna on January 07, 2011, 05:31:31 am
thanks fo the link Umi...
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: norry on January 07, 2011, 11:59:45 am
...Hi Guys...

The more I see these wee tugs , The more I want one...But would probably have to settle for a Model one...

Anyone else fancy a Model...I think 1/12 Scale would be ideal...

...Best Regards...Norry...
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on January 07, 2011, 10:40:11 pm
I would love one. I have been looking at the photos on the link that Umi posted, It's pretty neat.
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: pupjoint on January 11, 2011, 10:59:51 am
Hi everyone, I was roaming round the forum the other day and came across this which might be of interest http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=23939.0 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=23939.0)
Not quite exactly the same but looks very similar.
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Mr Andy on February 03, 2011, 05:47:52 pm
That's possibly the strangest boat I have ever seen, it's bizzare  %%

Think the Brat is strange, have a look at this little gem.
http://www.yourboatphotos.com/picture/number4716.asp

Andy.  :-)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on February 05, 2011, 03:44:36 pm
Here is hopefully if the picture loads, a picture or two of my tug to date.  Steve
(http://s4.postimage.org/353jeoeas/MG_4975.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/353jeoeas/)

(http://s4.postimage.org/353rod4ro/MG_4976.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/353rod4ro/)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on February 11, 2011, 11:08:56 pm
  I have decided to try and scale the BRATT tug out to 1/12, which would be about 25' 7" long by 14' 2" beam.  When a tug is measured, do they include the fendering?
Steve
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: tobyker on February 11, 2011, 11:19:42 pm
 Phil Bolger has designed some little mini-tugs for ply construction and use as pleasure boats on sheltered waters. They tend to have flat bottoms and o/b power, but might  be worth a look.
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on February 19, 2011, 12:25:27 am
I have started my BRAtt build.  I have taken all the photos and pictures and drawings I can find and have scaled them up to 1 inch to 1 foot.  I have the keel and ribs made and put together.  I am going to add some styrofoam between the ribs so I can fill the gap between the ribs for the 1/8" ply.  With out something between the ribs, the ply tends to flatten out, which would mean more filler to fair out the hull.  I have not decided if I will make a mold, or just pull a hull off the plug.  I will try to get some pictures to post here soon.   Steve
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on February 25, 2011, 11:21:08 pm
Well.  I have been working on the plug for my BRAtt Tug.  I have a layer of 1/8 in bending ply on the bottom and some Bondo on the seams and low spots, and everything sanded flush.  A little more sanding and Bondo and I should have the bottom ready for primer and paint.  Also have a layer of the 1/8" ply on she sides where the Fendering will attach.  Now I have to start work on the bullworks.  Not sure how to proceed, so that is in the thinking process.  I have also bought some 1 inch black rubber hose and some yellow zip ties off of Ebay for the fendering.  Getting a little ahead of myself, but it was a good deal.  Attached is a photo
(http://s3.postimage.org/2p6hlvz44/IMG_5011.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2p6hlvz44/)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on March 10, 2011, 11:11:48 pm
Update on the BRAtt Tug build:  I have the bullworks on and cut down to shape.  Lots of sanding and filler for the low spots.  I have a few coats of primer on, and somemore sanding and a bit of filler here and there.  When the rain stops I will put on a few more coats of primer, and get her ready for a coat of paint.  Played around making a towing staple.  3rd time was the charm.  9/16 inch aluminum bent around a 1 inch socket.   Even have my first deck hand on board.  Cartoon boat needs a cartoon crew.   
(http://s2.postimage.org/2fuiykhb8/IMG_5021.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2fuiykhb8/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/2funx6isk/IMG_5022.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2funx6isk/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/2fuujbwro/IMG_5025.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2fuujbwro/)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on March 20, 2011, 12:47:48 pm
I am at the point that I need to start working on the 2 part mold.  First time I have made a 2 part mold.  Did a lot or research on the internet and U tube.  I think I have it all down.  Got my plug all primed and the keel installed.  All sanded smooth.  Have about 5 coats or orange paint on it now, and just have to do a bit of buffing to make it baby smooth now that it has sat for about a week.  Want to make sure the paint is hard.   Did a bit of work on my crewman.  If he falls overboard, his new life jacket will keep him aflote.   Steve
(http://s1.postimage.org/1ih6asukk/IMG_5049.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ih6asukk/)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on April 16, 2011, 02:35:47 pm
Update:  I have been talking with a guy in CA about making the mold for me.  Not enough time here to get it done.  Work for myself and now I have to take over a family business and get it running for my elderly Dad.  Just not enough hours to go around.  Will keep you all posted.
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on April 30, 2011, 10:56:20 pm
I have had a bit of time here and there and got some work done on the tug.  I have added about 6 inches to the length of the keel and I have started on the splitter for the 2 piece mold.
(http://s1.postimage.org/2hyxmxgas/IMG_5116.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2hyxmxgas/)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: seahunt56 on July 04, 2011, 11:17:15 pm
Up date on my build.
  My father passed away in May and I have taken over his business for my Mom.  I still have my woodworking business and I am a dog agility instructor and teach a class on Tuesday nights.  I do not see any time in the near future where I might be able to get this plug into a mold and make a hull for myself.  So.... I am thinking that maybe I will sell it with the thought that someone would be interested in it and can make the mold, and a hull for themselves and one for me for sometime in the future, and     ?   
  All that is needed to finish the plug would be a wet sanding and polish.   If anyone is interested drop me a note.   Happy Modeling,   Steve
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Guy Bagley on July 05, 2011, 09:27:27 am
i am sure someone in mayhem world would take this on, -   andy G  MBD ????- i am sure you would  get modellers interested in buying a moulding ?- - i am interested in a set of mouldings for this boat.... i guess there are others !
Title: Training Tug BRAtt
Post by: Norseman on February 26, 2012, 05:32:35 pm
Hi

I came across some photos of a Training Tug - BRAtt at
http://www.pbase.com/portwelland/bratt

I think this would make a nice largish scale build that
probably wouldn't fill a garage. What do you think?

I haven't looked any further than the above site.

Dave
(http://s14.postimage.org/642dqqvml/BRAtt_002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/642dqqvml/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/yi0059j8x/BRAtt_001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yi0059j8x/)
Title: Re: Training Tug BRAtt
Post by: Netleyned on February 26, 2012, 05:51:28 pm
It's on here already

Ned
Title: Re: Training Tug BRAtt
Post by: Norseman on February 26, 2012, 05:54:28 pm
Cheers Ned - I'll look for it then

Dave
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on February 26, 2012, 06:01:03 pm
Has anyone finished a model yet?

.... It would make a great kit!   :-))
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Norseman on March 01, 2012, 08:27:48 pm
http://www.maritimejournal.com/features101/tugs,-towing-and-salvage/tugmasters_may_get_trained_by_a_little_bratt

I found this site. Bottom of the page click picture to get a nice big image - might help with lines?

Dave :-)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Norseman on March 01, 2012, 08:35:47 pm
http://www.maritimejournal.com/features101/tugs,-towing-and-salvage/bratt-takes-off-and-goes-green
and another one === Bottom of the page click picture to get a nice big image

Dave  :-)
Title: Re: I like the look of this little BRAtt!!!!!
Post by: Norseman on March 01, 2012, 09:16:24 pm

(http://s16.postimage.org/q77t1r9wx/page_fill.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/q77t1r9wx/)

not sure but might help - a png image - a click lightens the background.

Dave