Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Navy - Military - Battleships: => Topic started by: DickyD on July 07, 2010, 06:48:40 pm
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Started my HMS Javelin build today.
It is an old kit and drawing with an up to date instruction book so it will be like my HMS Amethyst build, interesting.
More as I go on.
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Seem to have chopped a bit off in the photo, will make a better job next time.
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Whoot It has finally started!!!!! Are we taking bets on how long it takes Dicky to complete this one????
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It's another "BLUE" hull Dicky! {-) {-) {-)
By the way belated wishes for your birthday :-)) - hope you didn't start this build before july 4th :}
kind regards, tony.
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It's another "BLUE" hull Dicky! {-) {-) {-)
By the way belated wishes for your birthday :-)) - hope you didn't start this build before july 4th :}
kind regards, tony.
3 days after Tony. Hows that for will power ?
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Whoot It has finally started!!!!! Are we taking bets on how long it takes Dicky to complete this one????
A little longer than the last one Pete, well it is a little longer than the last one. %)
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Seem to have chopped a bit off in the photo
The picture might be telling you something. :} Will the team be able to lift it when it's finished Dicky. ?
Belated Happy Birthday. I shall be following your build with interest. (now that I've dabbled with warships %) )
Cheers
Ken
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The picture might be telling you something. :} Will the team be able to lift it when it's finished Dicky. ?
Belated Happy Birthday. I shall be following your build with interest. (now that I've dabbled with warships %) )
Cheers
Ken
Its approx 7Kgs when finished Ken.
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Whoot It has finally started!!!!! Are we taking bets on how long it takes Dicky to complete this one????
Hi Pete (Klunk) before stating any odds, you don't happen to have some inside information do you? %)
I was thinking along the lines of any important parts that may have gone astray, (for a while!) I'm informed that a good betting man always knows which stable the horse came from! {-) {-) {-)
Nice meeting you at Wicksteed by the way, admired your model of Glasgow if I remember correctly,
Cheers and regards, Tony. :-))
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Today I made a rudder to replace the white metal one and fitted it.
I fitted the propshafts and the servo for the rudder.
Have still to make the A frames for the shafts.
I also drilled out loads of portholes. [picture to blurred to post].
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i BELIEVE WITH THIS KIT THERE WAS NOTHING MISSING!!! sorry for shouting!!! yes it was my Glasgow, it has since been put into storage for a while, due to a Bismark refurbishment project!!
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Today I made and fitted the missing A frames to the propshafts.
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Too hot to do much today, not a good day for me.
Took a photo for Ken of the whole boat.
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A nice size. Room for plenty of detail. Can't wait to see the armaments. ;)
yes, it was hot here as well today. I actually watched my paint drying. Most unusual.
ken
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Have now put in the motors and the rudder servo.
Have also put in some deck supports and bulkheads.
Have found with Deans kits that it is best to cut out the openings in the deck and to sort out the coamings before fixing the deck supports and internals to make sure you get the deck supports in the right place and make sure they don't obstruct anything.
I have already constructed the bottom of the superstructure to make sure it fits before cutting out the decks.
I have also put a strip of lead down the centre of the keel to act as ballast fixed with silicone.
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Have now connected up the electrics and tested them and they work OK.
Fixed the deck and filled where necessary.
I have now started on the superstructure.
For those of you who have never done a Deans kit before, always check that every thing fits before you glue anything.
Always assume that every part will need trimming for it to fit.
The hull has now been painted and when the paint has cured the portholes can be epoxied. Really looking forward to that.
For all its faults I am enjoying this build as it makes me think.
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hey Dick, I might be down your way mid August, as I am going to Lepe Beach, If you fancy tagging along I can take you down for a couple of hours as you are on my way down there!! PS It's just me no one else!!! My Dad's annerversary!
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hey Dick, I might be down your way mid August, as I am going to Lepe Beach, If you fancy tagging along I can take you down for a couple of hours as you are on my way down there!! PS It's just me no one else!!! My Dad's annerversary!
Ask me nearer the time and I will see how I am Pete.
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Thought I'd better update this.
I have been doing the superstructure though none of it is fixed or cleaned up.
There is a lot of 0.5mm brass wire involved and some awkward soldering.
Detailing is awkward as the photos in the instruction book are very fuzzy, so I am having to trawl the net for photos.
Having said that I am really enjoying doing this kit as it keeps the old brain working.
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Looking good Richard, but then your boats always do! You don't mess about once you've started, do you; when do you think it will be finished? Long before my current tug build, I'll be bound! Keep up the good work, all the best,
Danny
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Looking good Richard, but then your boats always do! You don't mess about once you've started, do you; when do you think it will be finished? Long before my current tug build, I'll be bound! Keep up the good work, all the best,
Danny
It will be a bit longer before I finish Danny, I want to do as much detailing as possible on this one.
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Assembled a few bits and pieces since last posting.
They seem to take forever.
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The photos aren't very good as they don't show all the detail
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Christ Dick that would take me about 2 years and all the skin off one hand I would think!!!
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You could put the camera closer. :} :} :}
ken (sorry, couldn't resist)
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You could put the camera closer. :} :} :}
ken (sorry, couldn't resist)
Will do better next time Ken.
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your certainly going some speed with this Kit.. i wish i had the time to spend on my HMS Inflexible.
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your certainly going some speed with this Kit.. i wish i had the time to spend on my HMS Inflexible.
Its easy, retire from work due to ill health [ Emphysema is a good one] and you can be like me, have loads of time on your hands for boat building. {-) :-))
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I have to say Richard that you are getting quite good at these builds!! %) %) %)
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I have to say Richard that you are getting quite good at these builds!! %) %) %)
Why, thank you kind sir. ok2
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Mr D, I have enjoyed watching you build Javelin - but could you give me some info on the kit please,
as there is very little info on the Deans website. I have made the last ship I served on ( HMS Juno F52)
and fancied doing the wartime Juno which was sunk off Crete. Because of her early demise and very busy
life before then there are few photographs of her but I believe she was only slightly altered from when
she was built. I.E. I think she still had the tripod mast and I dont know what her armament was fitted.
1. Do you have any photos of her, and 2 what time period does the Javelin model represent
as she was one of two who survived the war she was uprated on several occasions
Thanks Geoff
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Hi Geoff the Deans Javelin is modeled on it's Pacific period.
Juno's armament : 3 twin 4.7s, 4 twin 20mm bofors, 1 4barrel 40mm pom pom, 2 sets 5 torpedo tubes.
Deans aren't to hot on details, you have to find a few things on the web.
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Looking good have 2 D.Ms Destroyers H.M.S Cossack and one well haven't got'a clue it was acquired in a swap good look :-)) :-)) PS; can be scary to sail if you get the ballast right
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Dicky,
Nice job you are doing there, perhaps I shall get mine done at some stage.
However, HMS Javelin did not serve in the Pacific though she did take part in the taking of Diego Suarez in May 1942, returning to the Med via Aden and Suez.
Here is her operational history if you don't already have it: http://www.hms-javelin.co.uk/
LB
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DickyD, thanks for the info and and the 1941 photograph - hadn't seen that one before and it confirms
she was hardly changed since she left Fairfields S.B. - I'm a very slow modeller just have to finish
my Deans conversion of Cadiz into Aisne A/D picket version - at the painting stage so it should only
be about a year or so
Thanks Geoff
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Dicky,
Nice job you are doing there, perhaps I shall get mine done at some stage.
However, HMS Javelin did not serve in the Pacific though she did take part in the taking of Diego Suarez in May 1942, returning to the Med via Aden and Suez.
Here is her operational history if you don't already have it: http://www.hms-javelin.co.uk/
LB
Thanks LB, thought you were dead, haven't heard from you for ages.
Yes I do have her service history.
I was going by Deans painting instructions which state that the colour scheme shown on their photo was the Pacific colour scheme. Should have known better. :embarrassed:
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Pugwash hello!
Old ships eh?
Ravin J
1976 till 1982
Some good trips
We loved the Comms dept
You broke it we fixed it!
yours aye
Ned
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Hi Ned, yes she was my last ship. I stood by her at VT at Woolston then did the 1st
commission when Captain Lygo was in command. Went on as killick bunting and came off
acting Yeoman straight to civvy street as my first wife was seriously ill. Really enjoyed
my time.
Sorry for hijacking your thread Dicky.
Geoff
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No bother Geoff, don't do it again. ok2
Haven't done much today as I have been checking on what I have left to do and what I have to do it with.
Found out that Deans don't supply enough stanchions and railings for the kit. They are sending me more on Monday.
Just a few close up photos for Tug Kenny.
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Hope you can see these OK Ken ok2
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Perhaps Ken should have gone to Specsavers' Richard! O0 :-) O0
Danny
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I have to say Richard that you are getting quite good at these builds!! %) %) %)
Now you've proved it Dicky. I can see clearly now the rain has gone. :} :} :} :}
I'll bet you're a proud man. Well done
ken
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Thanks Ken, I think I am learning. :-))
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Have done some more today.
I have been fitting ladders, handrail and companionways.
I have also started on the lockers and hatches.
Have also done a little painting.
I am now waiting for a nice man from Deans to send me some more stanchions and handrails and also a CD of photos so I can get the detail right.
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I received my stanchions and handrails from Deans.
The reason I needed these is because Deans don't supply enough in their kit to do the job. They supply 12 lengths and I actually needed 16 lengths.
The stanchions and handrails are now fixed along with the rest of the ladders, companionways and handrails.
I have fitted a load more fittings, still plenty to go though.
Most of the ship is now under primer now so I can start thinking about detailing.
A word of advice to anyone who is thinking of buying a Deans kit, it is well worth getting one of their CDs for the kit, its a great help if the instructions and drawings are a bit unclear, which mine were.
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Nice one Richard, another most enjoyable build from the Densham boatyard, and I'll bet the 'ol brain cells are allready ticking over with consideration of build number 18! ;)
Right then, as a member's signature states " the only stupid question is the one I didn't ask", well here goes - how, so early into your build, did you know how much lead to use and exactly where to place it? and please don't tell me it's telepathy {-)
Please keep the pics coming.
Hope your keeping well, kind regards, Tony.
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Hi Tony, I didnt know how much lead or where to put it, but I did know from my last build that I would need some, so I put a narrow strip down the keel. The rest will be added where its needed once its in the test tank.
I am keeping not to bad thanks.
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Have just done some painting today, so most of ship has had one coat of final colour.
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By 'eck Richard you don't half get a crack on! O0 Looking really good and I LOVE the Maggie M.
Nearly finished my Loyal (will post some pics when I perfect the knack) and have Shamrock to do next - but I DO like that Maggie!! - think I'll try to convince the better half that stock's as good as money. %)
Take care and regards, Tony. :-))
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Well I finished it today, just have to get her ballasted and give her her maiden voyage.
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She looks good!!
Bob
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Dicky, She looks lovely, but my wife wants to know how you can finish it so nicely and so quickly
By my reckoning it took you about a month - thats the length on time it has taken me to wire up
to boat, and 18months since I started.
One question where did you get the figures on the decks.
Geoff
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Congratulations on a splendid build
That is a great looking ship, Dicky. Didn't you do well. :-)) An inspiration to the rest of us.
Ken
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Excellent job Richard, she looks really good.
Colin
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Dicky, She looks lovely, but my wife wants to know how you can finish it so nicely and so quickly
By my reckoning it took you about a month - thats the length on time it has taken me to wire up
to boat, and 18months since I started.
One question where did you get the figures on the decks.
Geoff
I do it quick because I dont work Geoff.
The figures came from Deans http://www.deansmarine.co.uk/shop/product_info.php/cPath/5_15/products_id/231
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I'm retired as well, but I seem to have less time for myself than I did when I was working.
Thanks for the info on the figures - 2 packs ordered this evening
Whats the next project now?
Geoff
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I'm retired as well, but I seem to have less time for myself than I did when I was working.
Thanks for the info on the figures - 2 packs ordered this evening
Whats the next project now?
Geoff
Geoff I should also have said I have severe emphysema and cant do much of anything else.
Have no idea what I am going to do next.
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try a submarine mate!!! Just a simple one like a revell gato or u boat!!! That will help to challange you! Surface runner!!!
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try a submarine mate!!! Just a simple one like a revell gato or u boat!!! That will help to challange you! Surface runner!!!
Could possibly be doing something from Oz Pete. :-))
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Dicky, sorry I haven't replied - I must have missed your comment on the 5th. Yes I knew you were not
well but I did not know what was wrong. You have to be very careful I suppose with the painting side of
modelling and filing and sanding. I have just been looking at your SRCMBC web at your list of boats,
you could always have a change of direction and do something like HMS Victory all the rigging would keep
you busy for ages or drive you mad. Also, you know the Hampshire area dont you, as we are renting a cottage
up the Meon valley (I havent been back since I left training at HMS Mercury in 1963) but what I wanted to know
was which of the Museums in Pompey are the best to visit . I have heard the Explosion museum is very good
plus the RN musuem. SWMBO has promised me as many days as I need for the visits so I want to make sure
I dont miss anything nautical and worth seeing. Any comments would be helpful.
Geoff
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Geoff,
I think the Explosions museum is only open on weekends as funding has been cut.
Might be worth a look on the website though.
Bob
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Hi Shipmate - I think Sheila has already checked the museum website and it gave the opening hours
through the week - just in case website has not been updated will give them a ring as I had heard it was cutting
back or possibly closing altogether.
Geoff
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Apart from the Historic Dockyard at Pompey http://www.historicdockyard.co.uk/
the Submarine Mueum at Gosport is well worth a visit. http://www.rnsubmus.co.uk/
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Thanks Dicky we are going to try to fit them all in. She has mentioned visiting some relative in Kent on the
way home and my first thought was "Chatham Historic dockyard" but I shall have to lead up to that very
gently or she might try some of her surgical skills on me without anaesthetic.
Have you decided on the next build yet.
Geoff
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Thanks Dicky we are going to try to fit them all in. She has mentioned visiting some relative in Kent on the
way home and my first thought was "Chatham Historic dockyard" but I shall have to lead up to that very
gently or she might try some of her surgical skills on me without anaesthetic.
Have you decided on the next build yet.
Geoff
Possibly Geoff, it could have an Australian background.
If you are down my way pop in for a cuppa.
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Well you will have plenty to pick from if you are thinking past and present. I've just had a look,
loads from us over the years plus U.S. and now German.
Thanks for the offer - if we are planning to get over towards the New forest I will pm you before
we come south - First week in September we are leaving here.
Geoff
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great too see the boat finisheed, I cannot believe that was the same boat you bought off me, let alone that you have finished her!!!!
Next question.....how much to buy her back LOL!
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Nice to see you are on the ball Pete, I finished her a month ago. %)
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been busy at work mate! So busy that I have not even got my Steam boat put together properly yet!!!!
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At long last we had the maiden voyage.
With two 7.2v battery packs side by side in front of the motors she didnt need any more ballast.
Even though it was fairly windy she sailed well.
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Hello Richard, she's a stunner! really looks superb on the water. How long and heavy is she? was it a complex build - there's so much detail it really does look great, I like it a lot. :-))
Hope your feeling a little better than the last time we spoke and that the good lady's knee is well on the mend.
Kind regards, Tony.
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Thanks Tony she's 1.13 metres long and weighs 3.1 kgs.
Not to complex but instructions and drawing were vague, fotunately I had the build CD whiich was a great help.
Wife has had the knee op and is almost back to normal thanks.
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Dicky, you finally got your nice day and she really looks great on the water, you
must be very pleased with her.
Geoff
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Thanks Geoff.
Pleased I am. :-))
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So what next then, Christmas is a long way off?
Bob
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Another fantastic build! And quick too! Even if I didnt have to work and have all that 'spare' time, I'd never get a build done so quick.
Deffo gets a :-)) from me.
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Better photographs.
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