Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Yachts and Sail => Topic started by: Jimmy James on August 08, 2010, 11:11:22 pm
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This is the latest addition to the fleet "WOLFSHEAD" An old Saxon name meaning Outlaw ... An 18 century Armed Lugger....The basic hull is from Orion Mouldings purchased on a very damp Saturday at Whipsteed ... I have been wanting to build another Lugger for a long time and I thought this was the ideal hull to do it
She's only small 28 inches on the hull...40inches length -o-all (Bowsprit to boomkin)
She's ketch rigged with (at the moment) a single topsail on the main and mizzen,,, both topsails can easily removed for heavy weather or the main topsail can be replaced by the mizzen to give a reduced sail area... two reef's can be worked into both the main and the mizzen to futher reduce sail (Jack line reefing)
So far she has sailed in 16 mph winds under full main, mizzen and jib (no top sails) and has proved a very fast sea kindly Vessel
she is pierced for 8 gun ports (4 pounders and plans to ship a 9 pounder "Long Tom" between the masts are in hand)
The build is 3/4 done and should be completed in 4 to 6 weeks
Freebooter
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AYE Jimmy ,ya build a fine lookin craft .
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Hi Dave
She's not finihsed yet,
Am just trying out the rig , the wind was 14 - 16 mph so at first I took the main topsail off and sailed her bald headed on the main but she needed a bit more power so I put the mizzen topsail on the main (The main topsail is a huge sail and was too much for the Gusty conditions) and she took off like there was a Revanue Cutter in her wake
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Under mizzen topsail but bald headed on the main
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Mizzen topsail set on the main mast instead of the main main topsail (Sort of a reffed top sail)
Freebooter :-))
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Sorry about the above But the phone went and You guessed it I hit the wrong button (Send... not the spell check)~'?&%£$ :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Jimmy
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Excellent work :-)) looks really lifelike on the water (as usual with your models!)
What Orion hull did you use - is it their "Naval Cutter"? (http://www.orionmouldings.com/apps/webstore/products/show/1338748) .
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Edward.
Thankyou for those kind words ... Yes it was the cutter hull ... "but "I didn't cut the hull down as I wanted the extra freeboard... I've got some rather poor pictures of the build (I can't take photos for toffee) and am going to try to doctor them up a bit and I also have diagrams of the rigging that I'll post in the next few days ... So as they say watch this space ...That cutter hull is a nice layup and can be used for quite a few different vessels :-))
Jimmy
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A few more pictures Showing the hatch & deck and the lead keel ... sorry the pix aren't all that good I'll never make a living taking pictures
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Freebooter
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These photos were taken at the lake side this morning ( Many Thanks to Juley and her Magic camera)
The chain plates & the rudder banding are made of tie wraps --- this is an experiment and from the comments it seems to work
The anchors are hammered out of flashing lead (rolled and then hammered square (This to my eyes gives a rough used look)
As usual my sail control arm's are on deck they will shortly be disguised under a 9 pounder gun (Set on a circle) and a Long boat
This is the first opportunity to have her under full sail (its been too windy) But two extra bits of lead have been added to the keel
Jimmy De Freebooter
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This should be enough for the moment I'll post some rigging diagrams shortly of the 3 types of Lug rig ( Ie: Standing,,,Dipping,,,, & Balanced Rigs and the different ways of rigging them....
Jimmy
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Rigging Diagrams for Standing ,Balanced & Dipping Lug Rigs
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I Hope these are some help for anyone building and rigging a lugger the rig is deceptive simple as there are no stays or shrouds and only a single sheet and halyard for each sail ...I have been using a double halyard (Port & Stb'd) to give the masts added support "some larger luggers did use double ones" also the rig lends it's self to tweeking
I Find this model is surprising close winded and very fast and sea kindly
Jimmy
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Great work there Jimmy,. thanks for sharing with us.... :-))
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Martin
Aye!!! I bought the hull from "Orion moldings"at Whipsteed on the Saturday at the moment I'm working on the guns
She's just such a fun vessel to to build and sail ,every thing to just fall into position with a min. of work!!!!
Jimmy
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Did you get any plans with the hull (the Orion website suggests they're supplied with it), if so what are they like?
I'm planning on building a naval brig or cutter (square rigged) for my next scale sail build - as I'm no good at scratchbuilding hulls, the Orion cutter hull looks like a good starting point. A decent set of plans would be a useful bonus!
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Ed
it's like this --- The Plans are provided They are a bit basic ---BUT---- I could easily build a sailing model of an Armed Naval Cutter with the plans provided ... and this Hull
All the main info is there and she's rigged with square topsails
Jimmy :-))
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Is the extra deep part of the keel amidships something you added, or is it part of the hull molding?
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RCboater
No old chap it's not part of the molding ... I like my ballast low and midships (sailing vessels sail better and there is less strain on the hull if you keep the ends light ) And I don't like internal ballast except for trimming The ballast keel is made up of 7 pieces of flashing lead permanently bolted on to the keel and faired in with P 38 car repair filler.
It makes the hull a bit unsightly out of the water but she sails extremely well and you can't see it in the water
Jimmy
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Love the new lugger jimmy, a unusual rig, and seems to sail real well! A worthy addition to your fleet
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Many thanks to Martin for taking these photos at Dean's Marine Show
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Phillip ...Yes she's a nice little vessel to handle ...and can easily be sailed in wind's up to 16 to 18 knots when shortend down
The lug rig is a traditional rig and was used on some Large British and Scottish fishing vessels until after the 2nd World War... It is a very powerful rig and many of the vessels were noted for their speed
Jimmy
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Cracking model!
Do you know if anyone has managed to model an r/c dipping lug?
I guess you'd need at least one extra servo to bring the tack around the mast and possibly a downhaul or something at the 'throat' end of the yard? Maybe even halyard control too?
Jon
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Some years ago I designed and tried a out a systime but it was clumsy and took 6 servos-- 1) for the halyard-- 2) to tip the yard around the mast-- 3) to haul the tack around the mast --4) for the sheet ---5) for the mizzen (a standing lug) and the Jib 6) the Rudder---It looked like a spider's web around the main mast -but-when it worked she sailed well ...but half the time the gear got fouled or broken and in the end I gave it up as a bad job
Jimmy
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Looking really nice now Jim, She's got the 'air' of the real thing about her. Back now to le crew and then onto the 'Flying Wombat!
Tony
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Tony,
Are you planing to put a periscope in that thing
Jimmy
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A brigantine with a 'scope? Shurely Shome Mishtake %%
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Op's!!! T-was talking about the frog...
Jimmy
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More Pictures of Wolfshead, Crew, Deck and 9 pounder gun on training circle
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Freebooter
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Deck fittings , Anchors, Cat heads & Figure head
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Many thanks to Mark and Juley for taking these superb photos
Jimmy James
Freebooter
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Last But not least ,,, She was a fun boat to build and a super vessel to sail ,,, She's close winded 3 & 3/4 points off the wind (you can get as close as 3 & 1/4 points off the wind but you sacrefice a lot of speed) and shes surprising fast and and agile and very sea kindly All in all Orion moldings have made a very nice hull and with the lug rig it's a pleasure to sail
Freebooter
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Freebooter
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Excellent job Jimmy
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Tk's TT
Jimmy
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I have had 3 or 4 requests for "Wolfshead's" Dimensions --- so here they are ... Many thanks for all the kind words people have said and posted
Freebooter :-))
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The crew of this mighty vessel come from TUBE AVENTURE PIRATES 07976 Adventure Tube Figures are aprox.50mm tall
TOBAR
The Old Aerodrome
Beccles, Norfolk
NR34 7SP
www.tobar.co.uk
Freebooter
Jimmy
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New thread LUGGER to LORCHA just started Converting Wolfshead to a Lorcha
Freebooter
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Check Yachts & sail R&D , Brigantine Freebooter for tip's on ginger work
Jimmy
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A few more Pix as Requested
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A few more to go
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Thats about the best resolution I can get - As I have said many times before I can Draw them I can paint them - but I can't photograph them
Jimmy
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Jimmy,
Brilliant. For someone who claims to not take photos, let me just say, I wish I could take photos as good as that.
Fantastic use of zip-ties my man. You've done it again.
cheers
kiwi
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Kiwi
Thanks for the kind words ...How are you getting on with all the tremors down your way ... My wife and I were down on the N & S island a couple of years ago and were sad to see the destruction...
I've changed Wolfs Head back to the Lug rig. the lorcha rig is a bit tame,,, and the lug is more fun to sail ...People kept asking me for detailed pix of the rig ...I see you spotted the Tie Wraps as chain plates ... I have also used them as banding on the rudder and reinforcements on hatches also as mock hinges on doors and small hatches
Regards
Jimmy
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Hi ,Jimmy ,I was on board the Scooner ,William and Mary yesterday ,no,one around so a crew member asked if I was looking for interest ,he showed me the timbers that have been replaced to bring her up to scratch this year ,what a beauty , and I told him there is a mate of mine ,lives next to the yard she was built in ,in 1902 , couple of interesting vessels in Albert Dock at the moment . and the Dutchman had a crew member sitting ,happilly splicing a mooring line ,he had a fairly good audience ,plus the crew were also using a Yacht varnish I ve never seen . interesting these sailing vessels ,I can see where you come from Jimmy .
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Sorry about the delay in answering but I'm having trouble getting into the forum ... its very hit and miss for some reason my fire wall dosn't want to let me in and some times It takes me 3 or 4 hrs just to draught a reply Glad you liked the schooner I've sailed on two or three and they are loads of fun
Jimmy
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OK I'm back on line "Norton fixed it" Wolfs Head has had a refit and is back to a working lugger, the sails have been rehung with the luff (Leading edge) farther foreward and the yard on the mizzen hung on the oppsit (Stb'd) side this from the main, was tested on sunday in very light airs and seemed to work very well ,She tacked and wore with no problems...---- I have at last dyed the sails , pictures of before and after ...Let me know what you think....
Jimmy
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WHITE SAILS
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LAST PIX OF HER SAILING WITH UNDRESSED SAILS
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Hi Jimmy,
Been away down Wellington for a bit.
It is indeed a pity what has happened to Christchurch, one of my favourite cities in the world, (lived there for a while back in my youth).
Just loved your sails in white, but NOW, they look so much better.
Well done. Currently building paddle steamers, but hope to get back to wooden sailing when they are done. Love the old sailing schooner scows of NZ, and the old wooden coastal sailing and steamers which plied our river, lakes and coast.
Trying to research and draw them up as well.
Whats that old saying
"so much to do, so little time"
Keep up the good work, have all your threads bookmarked
cheers
kiwi
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Kiwi
Glad to hear you're OK If you are looking for subjects ...the old steamer in Queens town though not a paddler is a worthy subject.
jimmy
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Kiwi
Glad to hear you're OK If you are looking for subjects ...the old steamer in Queens town though not a paddler is a worthy subject.
jimmy
It's TSS Earnslaw. All components were shipped from Scotland in the early 20th Century and carried overland to Queenstown where the steamer was put together to provide a service between Queenstown and Walter Peak sheep station. She's a beautifully maintained vessel - and the engine room is a joy to behold- and is well worth having a trip on if in the vicinity of Queenstown. :-))
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Thanks Roger
I had some photos of her coming along side in Queens's town on a rather blustery evening . Lovely bit of ship handling , with a single screw shallow draughted Vessel with a lot of freeboard, it wouldn't have cracked an egg.
Sorry I have been so long replying but me firewall has been playing up and has taken a dislike to Mayhem ---Hopefully I have fixed it !!! Again!!!
Jimmy
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Hi Roger & Jimmy,
The tss Earnslaw, is one very nice piece of machinery. First time I went on her was back in the very late sixty's, and she was a very tidy vessel then. The last time was about a year ago, and is still a very tidy vessel.
Will have to check, but think that original & or restoration drawings do exist of her, so she's not on my list of boats to draw. My list consists of boats which either no longer exist or are now wrecks, or restored, vessels for which drawings no longer exist. For most, there may even be only one photo or painting left, so will prove somewhat of a challenge. While the others I've been helped by personal recollection of people who have either worked on them or are otherwise familiar with them. To these gentlemen, I am deeply in gratitude for their help.
However, construction methods and fittings and engine details from such as the tss Earnslaw help enormously in interpolating details for vessels of a similar age or from similar yards.
cheers
kiwi
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I think the tanned sails look better ...But the real look is when they fade ...also I'll add some rope stains in darker colores to simulate the sails chaffing on the back stays
I have never yet seen working ships sails that didn't have dirty marks and rust stains on them
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See how these sails are staned and marked
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Jimmy
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Looks great :) i really like the wolfshead with teh lug rig!
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I tried to post some photos but the old magic box is having another off day and It took me half an hour just to do this, at least I got the section on dyeing the sails
I don't really like sails spotless white, Makes them look like a toy or a model and period working vessels (I think) look absolutely horrid with spotless white sails ( But that just Me) One of my granddaughters thinks white sails are Pretty but pink would be better.
Jimmy
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More photos to come
Jimmy