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Title: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on January 22, 2007, 05:33:40 pm
Abeille Liberté  & Abeille Bourbon.
( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! )



With referance to the beaching of MSC Napoli :-
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6277651.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6277651.stm)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSC_Napoli (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MSC_Napoli)


Somebody come with plans or a kit please!  :o

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Abeille-Libert.jpg)


(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q168/MBmayhem/Abeille_Bourbon_travers.jpg)

http://www.ouessant.org/sitefr/trad/pag2cf.html (http://www.ouessant.org/sitefr/trad/pag2cf.html)

http://www.netmarine.net/g/bat/abeilleliberte/index.htm (http://www.netmarine.net/g/bat/abeilleliberte/index.htm)

Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: edible_engine on January 22, 2007, 07:49:46 pm
i just seen the ship on the spotlight loads of things being washed up on the beaches and some nice views of the tug to
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: boatmadman on January 22, 2007, 10:26:43 pm
That is one impressive little tugboat!
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on January 22, 2007, 11:32:08 pm
A KIT?? With all those compound curves??
Mayhem, you're just an old tart. It'd have to have "ROBBE" on the box lid before you'd even look at it - and you wouldn't pay the asking price anyway.
Seriously slippery though..........
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: Roger in France on January 23, 2007, 07:24:14 am
Sorry, no plans. I think she may come from Le Harvre as "Abeille" is a name I have seen on several tugs and fishing boats there.

I think you could get a good looking model from a scratch build to encompass ( !!!!) all those compound curves but FOUR thrusters! I guess you do not need to install them all.

Roger in France.
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: tobyker on January 23, 2007, 04:27:46 pm
Probably needs four thrusters to counter all that top hamper up forrard. Very handsome though, and how sensible to paint "rescue zone" on the side so you don't go looking for the scrambling nets in the wrong place!

How are they going to register those BMWs? If they are new, it'll be some time before it's worth breaking them for parts.
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: funtimefrankie on January 23, 2007, 05:45:22 pm
A bit like the Bibby Saphire
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: J.beazley on January 23, 2007, 06:36:47 pm
Wow thats a nice looking tug, i think someone needs to take on board the project of building this ship then produce a kit for all to buy.
Quad props sound pretty smart for tug comps aswell.

So whos going to be the first to scratch build one of these then???

Jay
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on January 23, 2007, 11:25:43 pm
No Jay - that's not four props; it's four thrusters. That's two in the bow bulb and two aft between the Kort nozzles. Kit would need to be about 1/72 scale (= around 44 ins long). Have researched the shipbuilders but my Norwegian ain't that good and the only view I can find elsewhere is a side elevation. Not a lot of use for hull lines etc. Would welcome any further contributions - a kit is not impossible.
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: davej on January 25, 2007, 05:46:20 pm
Here's a couple of videos showing the predecessor to abeille bourbon & liberte, the abeille flandre

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2TXkmX--wc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgt-yqqz7oM

afaik the abeille bourbon is based out of brest, impressive beasts, i keep thinking of doing a model slipway aziz in the coast guard colours like anglian princess

http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=256361

Dave
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: J.beazley on January 25, 2007, 06:48:00 pm
44 inches is a nice size FLJ, at 1/72nd scale you could fit it out easy with various deck fittings and the like.
would the thrusters be of any use in a model or would you go with just the kort nozzles???

Jay
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on January 25, 2007, 08:31:06 pm
http://www.netmarine.net/g/bat/abeilleliberte/caracter.htm

The thrusters are the items shown as props just aft of the bow bulb and in the keel just ahead of the Kort nozzles. They aren't "thrusters" in the Queen Mary II sense of the word in that they are fixed within the hull and only thrust at 90 degrees, port or starboard. Normal fore and aft propulsion is via two thumping great big conventional props in Kort nozzles; these would be replicated in a model. Working bow thrusters shouldn't be a problem but the ones at the stern probably would be, due to the thin keel. I don't know of any commercial units which would suit and please don't anyone tell me of any ! I don't have time to consider this model at the moment due to other projects.
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: J.beazley on January 25, 2007, 08:45:57 pm
well there you go i learn something new everyday, do you think you could build a model from the side view and photos of the tug???
go on we all know you want to get your teeth into this project  ;D

Jay
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: John W E on January 25, 2007, 09:38:40 pm
FullLeatherJacket  I seem to recall a little model Police boat with a 'steerable' Kort Nozzle and I am sure, with a little bit of thought, these could be modified to fit in a very thin keel to act as thrusters and no doubt if someone came up with a couple of good photos of their Abeille Liberté  & Abeille Bourbon in drydock with a couple of good bow/stern views of her, we may hear some cogs grinding from FullLeatherJacket  ;D ;D ;D

Aye
John E
BLUEBIRD
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: FullLeatherJacket on January 25, 2007, 11:33:35 pm
Jay
No.
John
You know too much..........and that steerable Kort was fifty quid without a motor!
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: tobyker on January 25, 2007, 11:44:22 pm
Strange Fr sense of humour - if Abeille means bee, and Liberte is Freedom, would Dean's Marine have to give them away as FreeBees?

Just hoping.
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: portside II on January 26, 2007, 12:51:33 am
for a few more pic's try this site .
http://www.tugspotters.com/welkom.html and look in the photo album under ABEILLE LIBERTÉ.


Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: portside II on January 26, 2007, 12:56:34 am
F.L.J. YOU MAY ALSO GET A FEW IDEAS FROM THE SAME SITE AND LOOK UNDER THE NIEUWE TUGS   LINK .
HAPPY HUNTING
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 21, 2008, 12:22:48 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTKokuV5uwg&feature=related
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: SS Daring on April 10, 2008, 03:28:42 am
Impressive tugs huh??

If someone markets that hull in model form, and a good scale, say 1/32, I'd buy a couple!! O0

SS Daring
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: TugSov on April 10, 2008, 01:46:58 pm
Its a shame no-one does kits of the British Coastguard tugs i think, i'd have said the sisters Anglian Princess and Anglian Sovereign would make superb kits, the nearest we have is the Salvageman hull which is now the Anglian Prince.

(http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg295/tugsov/princess2.jpg)
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 10, 2008, 01:54:12 pm

I also fancy this design. Unfortunately, it would come out at Seven foot long if using the scale of 1/32.

Perhaps a scale of 1/50 might be practical.

(is there enough hours in the day. So much to do....so little time   ;))

Ken

Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: GAZOU on August 06, 2009, 11:21:39 am
Bonjour à tous

 Je suis nouveau sur ce forum mais beaucoup me connaissent pour m'avoir vu à Warwick et Weymouth avec un modèle de chez Loyal Slypway que j'ai peint en rose avec de jolies filles dessus et un approvisionnement de 170 cm avec de beaux Z-Drives
 Je vois ici que vous voulez faire l'Abeille Liberté et que vous cherchez des plans.
 En France, vous pouvez trouver les plans de la revue chez MRB (voir Internet) n ° 118e à l'échelle 1 / 100 pour 35 € magazine n ° 504 et 505
 il existe un DVD avec 120 photos qui va avec pour 12 €
 Si vous avez un problème pour vous procurer cela contactez moi je le ferais pour vous
amicalement

Jean-Pierre /GAZOU

Hello everyone

  I am new on this forum but many know me for me and saw Warwick Weymouth with a model in Loyal Slypway that I painted in pink with pretty girls on it and a supply of 170 cm with beautiful Z-Drives

  I see here that you want to Abeille Liberté and looking plans.
  In France you can find plans for the magazine in MRB (see Internet) No 118th at 1 / 100 € for 35 magazine No. 504 and 505
  there is a DVD with 120 photos that comes with it for 12 €
  If you have a problem to get this contact me I would do for you

  Regards
    Jean-Pierre / Gazou


(Don't worry lads, it a Google translation.... you know I'm not that brainy!)
   
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: GAZOU on August 06, 2009, 11:49:15 am
encore moi

 excusez moi, je n'ai pas utilisé la fonction traduction

   
encore moi    Excuse me, I have not used the translation!
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: Martin (Admin) on August 06, 2009, 12:57:31 pm

  Ah! I remember you Jean-Pierre!!!!!


(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Shows2007/Warwick_2007/images/Warwick2007-418.jpg)

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Shows2007/Warwick_2007/images/Warwick2007-409.jpg)

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Shows2007/Warwick_2007/images/Warwick2007-414.jpg)

More: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Shows2007/Warwick_2007/imagepages/image409.html

Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: GAZOU on August 07, 2009, 09:23:32 am
Hello MARTIN  :-))

ave a good day O0 !
Title: Re: Abeille Liberté ( French tugboat designed by Buck Rogers! ) NICE!
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on August 07, 2009, 09:40:56 am
There might be a hull available,.... You would have to contact PeterO though...  ok2

http://picasaweb.google.de/Peter.S.aus.O/BauberichtABEILLEBOURBON02#