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Title: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on August 14, 2010, 11:31:31 pm
As Promised... i said i would build a springer!

been working on it since thurday. i used the plans from Martins Thread, the ones that show the dimensions for the curve ... now i posted in the springer main chat about the hull being flat on the base most will recall that post. now in following Martins Plan it shows the base of the springer at one point a dead flat if only for 2" but still... its a flat bottom so hence my reason for picking that plan to build from rather then the A4 pdf thats on offer,.. ok so heres the springer so far...

shes constructed Out of 3.5mm ply. hull is 18x8 but there is a 1/8th overhand for the superstructer side walls i doubt many people will moan about 8th of an "!

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer.jpg?1281825014)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00075-20100814-2334.jpg?1281825644)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00077-20100814-2334.jpg?1281825693)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00078-20100814-2335.jpg?1281825736)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00079-20100814-2335.jpg?1281825770)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00080-20100814-2335.jpg?1281825810)

Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: toesupwa on August 15, 2010, 12:43:07 am
As Promised... i said i would build a springer!

i used the plans from Martins Thread, the ones that show the dimensions for the curve ... now i posted in the springer main chat about the hull being flat on the base most will recall that post. now in following Martins Plan it shows the base of the springer at one point a dead flat if only for 2" but still... its a flat bottom


Ermm... something isnt quite right there...

I've just looked at Martins thread again and the 'stations' for the dimensions show a curved bottom... there is no 'flat'...  {:-{
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on August 15, 2010, 01:00:54 am
yes there is ....

115.89mm or 4.9/16ths twice

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;attach=9196;image)
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on August 15, 2010, 05:10:04 am
yes there is ....

115.89mm or 4.9/16ths twice

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;attach=9196;image)


Not a springer man nor built one but looking at the plots me thinks no flat.
Suppose you connected all the stations points using straight lines, then you would have an apex intersect below the centre of the two identical stations, 115.89.
Change the straight lines to curves and continue the curvature past the two identical stations and the bottom is round.  :-))
To prove it, get a sheet of paper and follow the station points and lo and behold there is no flat.  O0 :-))
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: derekwarner on August 15, 2010, 05:37:31 am
......mmmmmmm...goodness ....RaaArtyGunner  <*< <*< please don't let the OZ team down <:( :kiss: .....

The plan is clearly drawn as demonstrated by a substantial gathering of rounded convergences   O0..there are no moderated straight lines....only straight thing needed is a  :police: jacket for anyone that cannot see the difference between a rounded thingie & a straight [jacket] version of the latter  %% %% %% %% %% %% %% %% Derek

Derek, Swearing is simply not acceptable on a family forum such as Mayhem.
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on August 15, 2010, 08:38:29 am
Wish i hadn't said anything now about that flat base... but i cant believe you guys want to argue about the plan showing a 1" section that is a dead flat when its clearly there on the plan , your own representation of the plan may want you to say its still a curve... but none the less the plan shows the flat section clearly. if you want to build yours with a continuous curve be my guest but i built mine as per the plan and for that its still a springer you can argue all you like fact is ,.. I'm right its a flat 1" section and you have to be an idiot to try to argue with a plan sat there showing the flat. as i said if you want to turn that flat to a curve to finish the profile thats your representation of it.. not mine.!
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: ooyah/2 on August 15, 2010, 09:57:29 am
Good for you Prophet,  that,s put all those Naval Architects in their place, they can't have much else to do than argue about such a trivial thing, but that then is the problem with know'alls, they just have to get their point over.
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: derekwarner on August 15, 2010, 09:58:30 am
 {-) Guys...I wouldn't be too concerned about a flat spot...... BUT :police:

If stations 50.8 & 44.45 are correct,,,,,,,  then station 47.63 is incorrect

I do not have a PC mathematical package on line to offer a correction but suggest the station listed as 47.36 should be 46.335'........

The basis for my view is one of the greatest design elements known to mankind...long before ....LOG tables & slide rules & calculators & computers .....but was the art form of the neolithic tear drop........O0 ....

Disappointingly......two members have chosen to use the word "argue" re this thread......... Derek
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Netleyned on August 15, 2010, 10:44:04 am
The hull therefore should be made up of 1'' wide planks to give a flat or a straight line between each measurement
A single piece bottom of 1/16" ply will naturally curve over the shaped sides

Ned
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on August 15, 2010, 10:47:44 am

Derek,
Can't see the problem  %) %) as there is no argument  <:( <:( because there is no flat spot  :-)) :-)) and I know I am right %) %)
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Bunkerbarge on August 15, 2010, 11:30:53 am
Are we anywhere near a full moon?

As for the springer, well done to Prophet for putting it together and for taking the time to share his build with the rest of us.  It's looking good so far and just goes to show that anyone can have a go at a scratch build hull and make a model to be proud of. 
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on August 15, 2010, 01:44:16 pm
Regardless of what people think about the hull of a springer. I'm sticking with the plans along with the fact that real springer hulls have this flat spot, i planked the base of the springer with 1/2" ply so i have a 1" flat spot but given the fact that the hulls now sanded smooth you can barley tell but its there.

at the end of the day you build your boats the way you want and what you feel happy with. to be honest who cares if one springers got a full curve and ones for a slight flat . as long as its 18x8 with the appropriate running gear and a superstructure its still a springer and just to be awkward I'll prove that springers have flats on there hulls!

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;attach=68956;image)

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;attach=85210;image)

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;attach=85211;image)

so make your own mind up but im keeping to mine !


i tend not to argue but to point out theres other ways of doing things if your going to post more comments on arguing the point i ask you DONT simply because it ruins the point of others sharing there builds on here which is the main point, i can take constructive criticism but when your arguing with a plan stating the truth keep ya mouth shut!

And thanks to those who have posted nice comments it is appreciated and makes building and sharing on here worth while
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Martin13 on August 15, 2010, 02:10:32 pm
Go for it Prophet. ok2

Following your build closely - I'm about to start on a springer (my way):-))

Good job so far and looking on with great interest :-)) :-))

Martin doon under
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on August 15, 2010, 02:19:35 pm
I'm working on the superstructure in between looking after the kids today wife at work so i got 2 kids a dog and a spinger on the floor playing i will update the log later tonight showing the addred cabin section =, i plan to build a cabin similar to the old puffer tug , have a large rear open deck with a winch and a few barrels something like that I'm looking at funnels at the moment for ideas I'm keen on the old diesel chimneys ( like a truck) but i fancy a pair of new triangular funnels not sure yet I'll work it out at some point
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: toesupwa on August 15, 2010, 05:02:18 pm
Regardless of what people think about the hull of a springer. I'm sticking with the plans along with the fact that real springer hulls have this flat spot

and just to be awkward I'll prove that springers have flats on there hulls!

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;attach=68956;image)

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;attach=85210;image)

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=3471.0;attach=85211;image)

so make your own mind up but im keeping to mine !

i can take constructive criticism but when your arguing with a plan stating the truth keep ya mouth shut!


Unfortunately, the pictures you have chosen to show your point are not 1:1 (full size) Springer's but Truckable workboat's. A full size 1:1 Springer does not exist.

I've re visited my CAD plan i drew from the original PNW drawing / dimensions and have built 10 Springer's from this plan so far... I've added a dim between the two questionable dimensions...  :}
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: triumphjon on August 15, 2010, 05:53:47 pm
WHY re people argueing over what is drawn in the plan ? the measurements shown in prophets set clearly show at least two stations adjacent to each other with the same dimensions !  i cant see what the fuss is about , the biulder has followed the set of plans he has in front of him , in the same way any biulder would .  prophet your model looks good from where im sitting , keep up the good work ?
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on August 15, 2010, 07:18:37 pm
thanks bud im getting pretty Implied swearing removed off with the fuss about a stupid 1" flat. seams like a lot of people want to be right and argue it till there blue in the face.. wasting time and actully making my post look like it a load of and again as said.. i have a plan to follow if its wrong its not my fault, but i dont really care what everyone thinks its my build and its the enjoyment of building that amkes this a hobbie. i find it hard to think that there are other boaters out there that half "xxxxx" there models or build it the way they think rather then the plan somtimes totaly ignoring it.. thats freedom to build what you want how you want. i havent built this springer to go to competitions or what not i am building it simple to encorace some bonding with my 5 year old daughter, in time once my son hits 5 and starts an intrest i will build him a boat too. the thing i think most have forgotton is that its a hobbie to build things right way or wrong way but if you get the enjoyment during the build and recive the rewards at the end, in my case getting my children into a hobbie apart from watching tv then its all worth it right??

Anyhow forget the rubbish heres part of the update... i would have posted about hour earlier.. but i managed to shatter a glass and stand on it belive me when i tell you my kitchen floor turned from tan brick to bright red pretty quick !

Started on the superstructer

i was originaly going to base the tug on a working boat i see regually named the SD Hercules but, i figured that an old style working barge might be better.. and given that my daughter will most likly crash it it will add to the overall appearance.

so the wheel house is based off the clyde puffer. its till work in progress but i will update later tonight or tomorrow with the finished wheel house

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00081-20100815-1908.jpg?1281896233)

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00082-20100815-1908.jpg?1281896239)

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00083-20100815-1908.jpg?1281896239)


Prophet, don't get wound up by those who have nothing better to do than try to put you down.  Make your model how you want and don't forget there is no right or wrong only to those who would rather argue than build.  I'd simply ignore the issue and continue your very interesting and informative build thread.
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: chingdevil on August 15, 2010, 07:53:40 pm
That is looking good Prophet, I like the puffer theme then I would having built one.
I would not worry about the bottom of your springer, as you said most of the rules are around the basic shape and drive train. If it looks like a springer and dives like a springer, its a springer :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))


Brian
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Arrow5 on August 15, 2010, 09:05:04 pm
Why not go the whole hog and make a  "Spruffer". Move wheelhouse aft, denture cleansing tablet tube( see Granpa) funnel. Disguise access hatch with sticks as a load of timber. Dowel mast and hoots you`ll think you are sailing up the Clyde afore ye know it. :D
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on August 15, 2010, 11:04:12 pm
nice puffer i was tempted at one stage to go the full hog but i have a London tug model from revell

(http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/rm/images/rg_5207_title.jpg)

so mines based on this one.

Heres the update on the wheel house only the roof missing but i will put that on once its painted internally i want to add some small detail since its going to have clear glass leaving it empty seams such a waste.

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00084-20100815-2248.jpg?1281909550)

and this ones for the winch assembly I'm building from scratch no plans or pics, its only got to roughly look like its a winch i may well try to make it work or at least have a length that can extend for proper towing i will see if my daughter wants a barge of some sort once shes got the hang of playing with it, but better add it now rather then try to alter it at a later date.

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00085-20100815-2248.jpg?1281909550)

And my apology's to anyone who felt offend by my lack of great English earlier.. I'm sure many will understand my frustration in that matter!



Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on August 15, 2010, 11:14:28 pm
Quote

Prophet, don't get wound up by those who have nothing better to do than try to put you down.  Make your model how you want and don't forget there is no right or wrong only to those who would rather argue than build.  I'd simply ignore the issue and continue your very interesting and informative build thread. O0 O0 :-)) :-))

Prophet,
In the main I don't think you were being criticised (well I hope so) <:( about your build but people were trying to help you  O0 (in their own way) in reading (interpreting) the drawings as the designer had intended.  O0[/color]
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on August 15, 2010, 11:19:58 pm
Unfortunately, the pictures you have chosen to show your point are not 1:1 (full size) Springer's but Truckable workboat's. A full size 1:1 Springer does not exist.

You have lost me when you say a full size doesn't exist. {:-{ {:-{
Is it only a concept drawing??
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Peter Fitness on August 15, 2010, 11:55:58 pm
My understanding is that Springers were designed as models, they are not scale models, that is, they are not miniature representations of "real" boats.

Prophet, your Springer is looking good :-)) keep the photos coming.

Peter.
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: toesupwa on August 16, 2010, 02:10:40 am

Prophet, don't get wound up by those who have nothing better to do than try to put you down.  Make your model how you want and don't forget there is no right or wrong only to those who would rather argue than build.  I'd simply ignore the issue and continue your very interesting and informative build thread.


I wasnt trying to put Prophet down on his build, merely assist....  >:-o

And i AM building....  >>:-(

Anyway...
I DO like your superstructure Prophet... It looks really good!  :-))
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: CGAux26 on August 17, 2010, 03:33:35 am
I am not the expert that ToesUp is on Springers, so I will just furnish the link to the NWRC Ship Modelers website:

http://nwrcsm.freeyellow.com/index.html

and say go to the link "Springer Plan Set.(rev 6/14/03)."  Note that these plans/sketches are 7 years old, and I believe are the source of all Springers.  While there are two adjacent stations that have the same dimensions, it is clear that the designer intended that the hull be faired to continuous curves.  I am a member of the NWRCSM and have been close to many Springers owned by club members.  Can't recall any flat bottoms.  But people build Springer knockoffs in all sizes, with all kinds of different (= non-standard) props, rudders, battery voltages, etc.

As others have said in this thread, build your boat so it makes you happy.  Just setting the record straight.   :}
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on August 21, 2010, 09:51:23 pm
Although i have currently got broken fingers in my boredom of not being able to model i decided i would continue anyway...

So update for today is a basic looking winch. and the funnel.

Winch was pretty easy to construct made out of scrap plastic parts from other kits and spares along with odds and ends i had laying about. i wasn't to intrested in making it look ' realistic' its only for my daughter. but it does work i will later add a length of cord that can pull out to attach to a barge or boat if needed.

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00086-20100815-2346.jpg?1282423690)

Next was the funnel, there are tones of options to construct it theres the 1mm ply rolled , but in my case i took a sheet of 3mm ply.. sliced grooves into it every 1/8" took a bog standard toilet roll and created the basic shape this is the 'former'.

Using the kettle heated up the ply sheet and slowly bent it around the toilet tube eventually getting the sheet to shape. super glued the edges and removed the former. i cased all the edges in pva to seal the groves and help keep the ply in shape. i then sanded it to a smooth finish. and glued it to the top of the 'engine room section'

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00090-20100821-2007.jpg?1282423692)

As most can tell i have also started to paint the springer, originally it was red and white but due to woman's prerogative.... it ended up blue.

Normally i would have used car sprays or acrylics for th paint work but i found that a blue exterior gloss works just as well and will help not only seal the wood but also give the boat a nice shiny finish with little effort.
I will update photos of the painting once finished then i will go on to the running gear and the detailing. trick it not to get to carried away as i know this is going to take a beating.

So far i have found many things i would have changed in this build so i will be making a second springer once i have finished my other build thats going on , in another thread. That springer will be a super detailed version try to make it as realistic as possible as well as putting all the things i have learnt from this build together to make a better one next time.
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on August 29, 2010, 11:41:04 am
Regardless of broken fingers here an update of the springer build, the majority of its now painted some areas require a 2nd coat then some detailing, rudder and prop skeg is now made and fitted, the hull is black as a matt finish, the superstructuer is a deep blue and white, all the remains to do is fit the electrics (which i can't do untill i pop to town to pick up a prop shaft and motor mount, ) once the electrics are in i will seal down the deck and that will be either planked, but im leaning towards placing a sheet of 320 grit sand paper over it and paint it grey, fit the windows in the cabin, port hole covers, railings and the cabin roof section , then its litrally just a bit of detail some weathing to remove that deep blue gloss effect dull up the white add some rust and the springer will be ready for its madin voyage, im aiming to get my daughter on the water the first weeks she back as school before the real winter season come in she can have a good 2 months of sailing with me before were forced back to the house for 5 months in which time i will finish my other builds and start some new ones  :-))


First up is my son helping out i think he just likes my Glasses...
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00093-20100828-1223.jpg?1283078198)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00095-20100829-1122.jpg?1283078199)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00096-20100829-1122.jpg?1283078200)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00097-20100829-1123.jpg?1283078201)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00098-20100829-1123.jpg?1283078201)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00099-20100829-1124.jpg?1283078208)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00100-20100829-1125.jpg?1283078211)

Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on September 05, 2010, 03:22:27 pm
OK here we go again, almost there the finish line is in site!

after a recent trip to the local model shop i picked up a few odds and ends not only for the springer but also for my huntsman build,

Items purchased for the springer

6" m4 prop shaft,
40mm 2 blade prop (was going to go with a 38mm 3 blade brass but wasn't prepared to pay £8 for it given its for my daughter !
ABS motor mount
** these 2 i already have:- 20 turn high torque motor/ notice there's a 2nd motor a its a spare 600BB i have i will test motors and decide what will work best in the boat.
27 turn mtronics forward and instand reverse esc
** Already have as spare:- water proof/high speed and high torque servo
m4- coupling

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00104-20100902-1637.jpg?1283695763)

First job was to install the prop shaft, expoy it in place, then fit the motor mount to line up with the shaft, at this point i expoyed in the motor mount since it was sitting on a slight curve of the hull i felt putting a flat plate in wasn't worth the effort, but to secure the mount down fully it was also bolted through the hull, and the holes on the hull filled and repainted and sealed.
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00106-20100905-1455.jpg?1283695765)

Next was to get the servo in the right spot so i build a shelf for it to sit in, then built up the rudder post hole so its above the water line easy job.
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00105-20100905-1455.jpg?1283695763)


OK last job was a test run in the bath to check for leaks easy to fix now then later once the deck as been sealed down, and I'm pleased to say no leaks in the hull and the shaft didn't drip either, and it wasn't greased up yet!
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00107-20100905-1455.jpg?1283695766)

Now a question on ballast, i was under the impression from the start this thing was going to be extremely boyant, i fitted the deck and super structure on and let it sit, it was already back heavy so clearly all ballast i add with have to go to the front and center, my questions this, did any of you ballast the model and if so how much weight am i looking to add? reason i ask is that ballast is not cheap and lead is quite hard to obtain here, so I'm forced to buy the white metal fishing weights and need a rough idea how much i need to purchase, and no i don't have anything heavy to stick in the hull i checked everywhere for odd items i dint mind risking in the bath, other then LA battery's I'm not prepared to stick in to guess the weight!

any help will be useful on this one  :-))



Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: hollowhornbear on September 05, 2010, 05:26:16 pm
2 X 6Volt 4Ah SLA's do it for me wired to give 6V 8Ah. Stern heavy is good Springers trnd to nosedive at speed. at least mine does.
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Mr Andy on September 06, 2010, 04:14:43 pm
Made up looking at the real boat, great; build it as you please I say, I did, it was a failure but I'll try again.  :} :}

Andy.  ok2
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on September 06, 2010, 04:51:14 pm
Thanks for the nice comment, always helpful to keep the enthusiasm going, well the lack of answers in regards to ballast wasn't much help, but thanks to 'hollow' who did, the ballast issue i have though out over the last day or so, clearly nose diving at speed is not what I'm after , nor is having it try planing across the water, so i have fixed the issue and test ridden in the bath.

It rides rear heavy but not by much just enough to keep the nose up and not let water rush over the deck, to achieve this.. i might get a few odd comments now, i have added 2- 7.2v 3000ah lipos, ( parallel for longer endurance) and very close to 2 kilos of raw fishing weight, those who work in LB and OZ its 4.5LB or 72OZ! thats enough to bring the boat sitting flat on the water and lower it enough to sit right. i will update with pics later tonight once i have epoxy the weight in place ( boats drying off from the soaking) and fed and put the kids to bed.  :-))
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Martin (Admin) on September 06, 2010, 05:52:01 pm
Don't forget to seal the woodwork inside the boat too!

I've found spray varnish good for waterproofing the wood: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plastikote-Super-Clear-Acrylic-Satin/dp/B002HMOFOG

Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: DickyD on September 06, 2010, 05:58:22 pm
I knew I wasn't the only one using Plastikote, I do find it worrying, however, that the other one is Martin. :((
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on September 06, 2010, 06:05:27 pm
actully i hand painted the boat.. in regards to sealing the inside of the hull that was already done during construction of the hull. i coated it in a thick layer of wood glue to soak into the wood once all the internals shelfs are in place i will give the inside a few coats of gloss just to make it look a bit neater but thanks for the advice Martin  :-))
Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Prophet on September 06, 2010, 10:05:16 pm
As Promised an update on the build, next few photos show the positions best i can of the weights added, there's 16oz's in the front section, 10 in the rear, (5 each side) and 23 each side of the center, this includes the weight of the battery's on there little shelf's which are not quite finished.
The weights i was going to epoxy in but i had a bit of body filler left in the old pot so i used it up which helps not add more weight as body filler drys lighter then expoy resin.

There's also a photo showing the boat at the water line so you can see how well i have balanced it for running.

(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00108-20100906-2137.jpg?1283806519)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00110-20100906-2138.jpg?1283806520)
(http://i820.photobucket.com/albums/zz123/aron_moore/Springer%20Build/IMG00111-20100906-2159.jpg?1283806997)

next update will be the finish in a few days i just have details to add now decking window frames and windows, railings, deck items etc see you in a few days  :-))



Title: Re: Prophets Springer Build
Post by: Arrow5 on September 06, 2010, 10:27:03 pm
Keep the weight down low and at the outer edges of the hull, stick in with silicon bath sealant, easy to cut out if required. I like to use matt paint inside the hull so I can spot water easier. Raise a bulwark at the bow to stop "deck washing" or worse ! :-)) :-)) :-))  Plenty of space to be filled with polystyrene blocks/slabs.