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Title: Teak supplier
Post by: a3nige on August 16, 2010, 12:55:16 pm
Hi,
Does anyone know where I can get teak planks about 1/8" thick about 1/4" wide?
Thanks
Nige

Mods, if this is in wrong place please move, ta.
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: Arrow5 on August 16, 2010, 01:11:00 pm
Nige , does it need to be planks and that thick ? I would suggest some offcuts from a veneer specialist. I Googled and came up with a couple that illustrate the different woods and one that does mixed small packs.  I read in another place that mahogany doesnt look right in model sizes (grain) might be same with teak.  Have a look at www.selectveneers.co.uk and www.woodveneeruk.co.uk.   Not model suppliers but talk nice to them and let us know how you get on. :-))
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: Prophet on August 16, 2010, 01:13:48 pm
not teek but others....
http://www.alwayshobbies.com/Boats/Materials/Planking-and-Mouldings/Planking-Stripwood.ice (http://www.alwayshobbies.com/Boats/Materials/Planking-and-Mouldings/Planking-Stripwood.ice)
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: a3nige on August 16, 2010, 03:05:13 pm
Thanks guys,
Will look into these.
Arrow, the thickness is not too important as they will be laid on a plywood sub-deck, but I do want planks as the deck is 2mtrs long and I think it will look good with proper planks laid with king and margin planks in a different wood.
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: alan colson on August 16, 2010, 03:22:56 pm
Someone gave me some veneer offcuts a few years ago, I was told the came from a coffin maker.
Alan
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: gondolier88 on August 16, 2010, 03:30:23 pm
Teak is very expensive (£340p/ft cubed for proper teak at the moment)- try Sapele instead, it's a mahogany family wood, but it has scale grain and looks great varnished.

Or, use cedar, I used this on a launch for decking recently and varnished, oiled, or left to weather it looks very similar to teak.

Greg
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: DickyD on August 16, 2010, 04:17:40 pm
All these and you want teak ?

http://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/timber.html
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: Arrow5 on August 16, 2010, 04:33:14 pm
Nige , I wasn`t suggesting sheeting but veneer sheet cut into planks.  I think there may be a price advantage...me being a cannie Scot and all that (English humour for our foreign readers). The rolls of "edging" with iron-on adhesive sounds interestingly cheap.   Give us a clue about your project, lots of timber eh . Any pictures?
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: a3nige on August 16, 2010, 06:25:36 pm
Thanks Arrow,
I have worked out you can get about 150 metres of 6mm wide 0.6mm thick TEAK planking for about £40, not bad in my book!!! :-)) :-))

This is the hull I bought off ebay, it is rumoured to be a Bob Underwood 'A' class Highlander with SEVEN pieces of lead in the keel like the one in the photo, although if someone knows more about it I would be very interested. She is 68" long and 14" over the 'hips' with a 13" deck width. I would like to turn it into something like a J class, from the waterline up anyway, with deckhouses etc. I have some J class plans from Amati I can scale up. I Would be interested in any info as regards suppliers for masts, fittings etc.
These websites are my inspiration at the moment
http://www.pondboats.com/
http://www.ludwigrcyachts.com/
I really fancy having a go at planking the deck, I think it will make the boat, although it will be a long project as I have just lost my 'boat room' to 2 single beds :((
Any advice will be gratefully received.
Regards
Nige
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: a3nige on August 16, 2010, 06:35:42 pm
Hi DickyD,
Teak is traditional but after reading about different woods it may not be suitable for models because of its texture. Must admit I had overlooked Cornwall model boats, good selection.
Nige
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: boatmadman on August 16, 2010, 06:53:20 pm
I would suggest cedar, its a good fine grain wood, works well and looks the biz, its cheap and easy to get as well. Just try and get planks with straight grain running along them.

Teak has a relatively large grain structure which, at scale size, might look a little too big

Ian
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: DickyD on August 16, 2010, 07:09:47 pm
Hi DickyD,
Teak is traditional but after reading about different woods it may not be suitable for models because of its texture. Must admit I had overlooked Cornwall model boats, good selection.
Nige
Know all about teak Nige, helped my father build 30ft cruiser out of it, we were both joiners.
Now to expensive to use.
You could contact bluebird, all his models are planked and he's a bit of an expert. :-))
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: Arrow5 on August 16, 2010, 07:10:25 pm
Nice yacht , nice name.  Mast height will be what ?  Make it a J Class,  yes please.
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: a3nige on August 16, 2010, 07:20:27 pm
Hi Arrow,
Mast will be about 80" above deck, scale will be 1/20th as near as dammit.
Nige
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: dodgy geezer on August 16, 2010, 08:18:45 pm
If anyone finds a supplier, give me a shout as well. SWMBO has just got a conservatory built, and we're looking for teak flooring to match the rest of the house. And can we find a supplier...??   <:( <:(
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: nemesis on August 16, 2010, 10:22:29 pm
Hallo, I was up at Crinan the other weekend when a lovely small yacht came into the basin, It had a mahogany king plank and the deck planks were virtually white, well, off white. with superb even caulking between. It looked fabulous. The majority of the woodwork was in mahogany. It was spick & span, a credit to its owner.
If the thickness is not an issue. you may be better off using square planks, as they are easier to bend. I often use obechi, (often called White Mahogany) with a mahogany stain of you choice, it is, at times hard to tell the difference.                                  Nemesis
           
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: a3nige on August 17, 2010, 08:12:10 am
 :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
She is 78" long, not 68".
Nige
Title: Re: Teak supplier
Post by: Edward Pinniger on August 17, 2010, 06:12:33 pm
That's certainly a seriously big model yacht  :o, if it were a bit wider + deeper you could sail in it yourself (there are full-size sailing boats with shorter hulls)! Looks like it'd make a very good basis for conversion to a J-class style classic yacht, the hull is much more "scale" looking than most.

Obechi, as suggested by nemesis, is definitely worth looking at (and it's relatively cheap, an advantage for a model this big) but probably the best wood for deck planks (IMO) is limewood (also sold as basswood) which is very pale in colour, close grained and flexible (obechi is somewhat grainier and more yellowish in colour).

As boatmadman mentions, cedar is a good substitute for teak (for deckhouses etc. rather than deck planks), I used cedar veneer for the deckhouses on my Cutty Sark and the colour when sanded + varnished almost exactly matched photos of the real thing - I also found it quite difficult to work with (grainy + brittle) but it probably depends a lot on the age of the wood, mine was left over from a 30+ year old marquetry set!