Model Boat Mayhem

Mess Deck: General Section => Tugs and Towing => Topic started by: retrotug on September 03, 2010, 09:56:24 AM

Title: How things change....
Post by: retrotug on September 03, 2010, 09:56:24 AM
Since coming on board a month back, I've been back in the UK for a short time, and I managed to find the chap I sold all my model boating stuff to some years back.  Amongst all the stuff was a model of Fairplay V, a Hamburg tug, kit was made by Heki (I believe). I bought it back from him, and brought it back home to Cyprus, with the intention of doing a refurbishment, as an introduction for myself back into modelling. The kit has a single steerable Kort nozzle, but on researching photo's on t'internet, I find that she now sports twin Korts about halfway along the hull, with what appears to be a fixed rudder at the stern.  See http://www.vesseltracker.com/en/ShipPhotos/188180-Fairplay-V-8306668.html  for a picture of her drydocked. I wonder if she was always configured this way, and Heki just did a single Kort as a matter of simplicity.  How difficult would it be to convert the kit, and would it be worth doing? Any ideas, shipmates?
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Prophet on September 03, 2010, 11:27:31 AM
depends on why the ship was converted in the first place, try to find that info if you can, it might help your decision

its up to you its your model for me personally i wouldn't fit it as the photo suggests not that i don't like its new look but for storage and transport purposes, those Kort's now stick so far below the hull  that i would be worried about bashing them about. how ever you pick to refurbish your model be sure to post some pics  :-))
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Arrow5 on September 03, 2010, 01:34:18 PM
The picture show two azipods or maybe Schottel drives, not Korts. Full 360 degree movement, a very different kettle of fish. The massive non-moving rudder is to make the vessl track straight when going ahead  as a result of the position of the pods. The pods are near midships for exceptional manueverability the system provides .   I dont know if the ship was built that way. Might be a good question for the Tuggers.
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: retrotug on September 03, 2010, 01:54:21 PM
I stand corrected, I used Korts as a generic (like Hoover) in ignorance of other types. Thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Arrow5 on September 03, 2010, 02:09:19 PM
No Problem, you have a PM (personal message)
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on September 03, 2010, 05:57:11 PM
Fairplay IV, V, VI, and VII are all listed as Tractor Tugs.

http://www.fairplay-towage.com/schottel-tractor-tugs.html

The arrangement you show pictured is typical of "tractor" tugs, so I would
guess that the boat was originally built in this configuration, and that the model
was made using a single drive to economize on cost and engineering.

 :-)

However, to be honest, FAIRPLAY XV would not have struck me as being tractor tugs.
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: retrotug on September 03, 2010, 06:28:23 PM
Thanks for that Umi, I think I'll not start hacking it about.   Arrow5, on the Fairplay Towing website they describe the propulsion as 2 x Schottel Rudder Propeller SRP 503/505 in Kort Nozzles, so we're both right?
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Arrow5 on September 03, 2010, 09:38:15 PM
Yep that is right ...........you have a PM
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Channel on September 04, 2010, 05:22:30 PM
Since coming on board a month back, I've been back in the UK for a short time, and I managed to find the chap I sold all my model boating stuff to some years back.  Amongst all the stuff was a model of Fairplay V, a Hamburg tug, kit was made by Heki (I believe). I bought it back from him, and brought it back home to Cyprus, with the intention of doing a refurbishment, as an introduction for myself back into modelling. The kit has a single steerable Kort nozzle, but on researching photo's on t'internet, I find that she now sports twin Korts about halfway along the hull, with what appears to be a fixed rudder at the stern.  See http://www.vesseltracker.com/en/ShipPhotos/188180-Fairplay-V-8306668.html  for a picture of her drydocked. I wonder if she was always configured this way, and Heki just did a single Kort as a matter of simplicity.  How difficult would it be to convert the kit, and would it be worth doing? Any ideas, shipmates?

More than likely a previous Fairplay V you have a model of . . The previous one was single screw and the 'new/current' version is a Tractor.
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on September 04, 2010, 07:59:49 PM
I would hope that there was a little ship recognition ability at work here...

 O0
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: retrotug on September 05, 2010, 06:22:43 AM
So the kit is a representation, rather than a scale model. That puts things into perspective (no pun intended). Nice pictures Umi, just like mine, but more detailed.
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on September 05, 2010, 09:40:46 AM
I believe "Channel" called it... :-))

You have a scale model, but it is a model of the older (retired) Fairplay V.

It has since been replaced with the one shown on their website.
The model pictures I posted are from a website that was diplaying several
model tug boat examples.  It's not mine.  ok2
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: retrotug on September 05, 2010, 09:56:50 AM
Now what a daft idea is that? fancy calling a vessel by the same name as an earlier one. They could at least called it a Fairplay V MkII or something :D
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Arrow5 on September 05, 2010, 10:13:36 AM
It gets worse in the Royal Navy when it comes to naming ships. Check and see how many HMS Ark Royals, or Invincibles  there has been .
Title: Re: How things change....
Post by: Channel on September 06, 2010, 09:41:04 PM
I work at one of the UK's major ports and a lot of my time is spent checking ship details. Not easy at times expecially when ships get renamed for charters etc!  :police: