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Title: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: MikeK on January 27, 2007, 09:51:54 am
I found a good way of removing unwanted water from the bilges on my Thames barge where access to the bottom, especially aft, was limited. This was to use the trigger pump part from an empty plastic cleaning bottle when SWSBO had finished with it. If you can get a longer length of tube to fit, even better. Probably the most efficient would be the plunger type for liquid soap etc as they are designed to eject a greater volume per plunge. The best idea is to quietly start going through her cleaning gear having a tentative squirt here and there and HAVE A GOOD STORY READY otherwise she will have you using them for real  ;D ;D

MikeK
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: Bunkerbarge on January 27, 2007, 12:33:07 pm
What a really neat little idea.  I beleive you can actually buy the things on thier own as well as I have seen 'er 'indoors replacing one on a fancy ceramic soap dispenser one day. 

As you say though how to get one without getting caught!!
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: bigH on January 27, 2007, 03:00:17 pm
 :o  You can get the bottle pumps easy enough from £1 shops or bargain stores and the tubing can be bought from your local hobby shop aircraft department (fuel line )
       
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: catengineman on January 27, 2007, 08:23:52 pm
Hi,  May be a useless idea (though it works for me) a syringe from an old ink cart filling kit and some fish tank air pipe.

By the way    MikeK,.  I know this will make me look thick (keep quiet captain jack) what does SWSBO actually mean ??? :)
even though I understand that it refers to your other half (daft saying) but you know what I mean :)

Richard [perplexed] :)
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: John W E on January 27, 2007, 09:21:19 pm
catengineman  ;D

here are a few I can think of off the top of my head

She Who Should be obeyed = Mrs  ;D

Sail when she bu**ers off = your free time  ;D  ;D

Swan will sink boat often = misery   :'(

Aye
anymore anyone
John E
BLUEBIRD  ;D

Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: catengineman on January 27, 2007, 11:14:47 pm
I just knew I would be thick! :-[

May be that my brain is just too




                                                                                                                                                   Dead to have worked that one out :-[ :-[ ;D

Thanks any way
Richard
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: tobyker on January 28, 2007, 12:27:51 am
If you want to get sophisticated, you can use a syringe, a Y piece, two car windscreen washer valves and some silicone tubing to make a bilge pump. The advantage of the y piece and valves is that you don't have to keep hoiking the tubing out of the bilge to discharge the syringe.
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: grasshopper on January 28, 2007, 10:39:07 am
The only good thing to come out of my last stay in hospital - a huge syringe (unused) 6" long and 1" diameter - nicked it when the nurse wasn't looking !
that and bought washer pipe from Halfords
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: Colin Bishop on January 28, 2007, 11:24:27 am
And now you can indulge in self administered colonic irrigation... ;D
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: MikeK on January 28, 2007, 05:00:12 pm
Richard, John got it right in one, but you are not alone in puzzling these abbreviations, it took me a while to realise that IMO was In My Opinion, the only IMO I knew was hazardous cargo lists and I can't remember the actual meaning of IMO nayway  ;D

Colin, I've heard about the proverbial hairs on the palm of your hands but you are taking things into a whole new dimension. Oh you are awful ..... :o :o :o ;D

MikeK
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: John W E on January 28, 2007, 06:09:09 pm
Hi Mike and Richard .... the one that really had me worried is LOL - lots of love I thought - this is dangerous and I knew it couldnt mean lots of love when I saw a Scotsman using it when replying in a thread - then I knew it had to stand for something else lots of lolly, lots of lunies that was a strong possibility, okay then lots of laughs

the other one that got me was CBA - thenI found out its CANT BE AR*ED  - and another one FBAR 'ed we've all had a few models Fbar 'd 

and hows about FRI this was once sprung on me - hey whats FRI stand for - hadnt a clue... can anyone tell me??  ;D

Aye
JOHN E
BLUEBIRD
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: Jankers on January 28, 2007, 09:30:45 pm
Can't say for FRI, but lol = laughs out loud.

J.
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: catengineman on January 28, 2007, 09:41:36 pm
Richard, John got it right in one, but you are not alone in puzzling these abbreviations, it took me a while to realise that IMO was In My Opinion, the only IMO I knew was hazardous cargo lists and I can't remember the actual meaning of IMO nayway  ;D

MikeK

You jest? :) ???

is it not International Maritime Organization
they have stuff like ISBN 92-801-12902      =   IMO- 292-E

Only kidding as if I would understand abbreviations :) like IMHO, BTW

Richard
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: MikeK on January 29, 2007, 09:32:54 am
Richard - it is exactly because the IMO lists such interesting topics as the ISBN bumff that I've blanked it out of mind  ;D ;D
Fond memories of half a dozen volumes scattered round with mutterings of " I'll put this one aft -  no can't do that it has to be more than 10mtrs away from that one which has to be nowhere near this other one and oh sh-t this one can't be next to any of them" and so on and so on  >:( >:( I heard a story in my last outfit of a sailor sweeping spilt powder in a 'tween deck and the broom caught fire  :o and there was nothing listed about any hazardous either. All part of the fun - LOL as they say  ;D ;D

MikeK

ps I have just realised I am busy hijacking my own topic does that still count as a no-no  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: bigH on January 29, 2007, 03:19:04 pm
 >:( Aaaaarrrrrgggggghhhh, "xxxxx".  will you guys pack it in, I am getting so tied up with what youre saying that I've just nailed my thum to the foredeck....
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: MikeK on January 29, 2007, 04:15:11 pm
Might as well go the whole hog and fly your skiddies from the yardarm as well  ;D ;D

MikeK
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: catengineman on January 29, 2007, 09:11:37 pm
Might as well go the whole hog and fly your skiddies from the yardarm as well  ;D ;D

MikeK

Would the foremast stay take the strain? ???  ;D ;D

Richard
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: MikeK on January 30, 2007, 08:25:45 am
Should be ok if bigH washes them first  ;D ;D
By the way Richard, was that ISBN number you quoted plucked from your head, or for real ? Please reassurel me you are not a secret anorak, with a full set of blue books bought from some specialist charity shop. (with the obligatory one volume missing,of course)  ;) ;)  My sad imagination is conjuring up a picture of some bloke with an exercise book standing on the corner jotting down the numbers on the backs of road tankers as they pass  ;D ;D
LOL as they say

MikeK
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: catengineman on January 30, 2007, 06:54:51 pm
By the way Richard, was that ISBN number you quoted plucked from your head, or for real ? Please reassurel me you are not a secret anorak, with a full set of blue books bought from some specialist charity shop. (with the obligatory one volume missing,of course)  ;) ;)  My sad imagination is conjuring up a picture of some bloke with an exercise book standing on the corner jotting down the numbers on the backs of road tankers as they pass  ;D ;D
LOL as they say

MikeK

Mmmmm, Lets see if I'm an anorak then I could quote ..........................

No honestly the reason for the sudden out burst from me is I have the Safety Officers Bible to hand  COSWP for M/S and swatting up on rules IS NOT MY THING honest ;D ;D

I leave the ship and brain goes into land lubber model mode. I wont even go on a cruse with the wife!!!

PS: did you want a set of ....................


NO "Richard"!!!!!!!!  OK I will not try to pervert the kind people out there!

Richard  :)
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: MikeK on January 31, 2007, 09:01:04 am
Thank God, that's a relief Richard, although why anyone should want to have the safety Officers job in these Health and Safety days fills me with admiration.
Touche', what does COSWP for M/S mean ? or have I just gone and put the proverbial foot in oversized mouth ??  :D :D

MkeK  8)
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: mogsy on January 31, 2007, 11:16:03 pm
 :) PMSL = Pi$$ed Myself Laughing.
This is the extreme extension of LOL apparently.(I too have to have these explained to me almost daily)
 Despite my young years I dont get all this yoof speak.
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: catengineman on February 01, 2007, 12:01:27 am
Hi MikeK,

COSWP for M/S

Code Of Safe Working Practices for Merchant Seamen

Though I feel the PC lot may want to change  the last to seapersons ???
And yes the mine field of S###T that come in from HSE is enough to make "that Jewish chap cry" ;D ;D

PS; don't tell any one but common sense is used on our ship and we get by OK.

Richard.
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: MikeK on February 01, 2007, 08:59:01 am
Thanks for the information Richard (and the new addition to my vocabulary, Mogsy  :D ) When I had to pack in the Merch (98) the cr-p from on high was getting into full swing and my old farts instinct was kicking in, where I refused to remember most of the many abbreviations being born. Common sense has always ruled the day, except perhaps where our great government is concerned  ::) ::)

Hope you enjoy the rest of your leave (Do you get asked when you are going back 5 mins after unpacking the suitcase as well ??)

MikeK
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: catengineman on February 01, 2007, 11:00:39 pm
MikeK you remember so very well, but I have even been told by my dear old mum that I'm NOT DUE HOME when I walk in and visit her ???
Still the best bit about getting home is that the second thing you can do is put the bag down....... ;D
Its OK the wife aint watching over me shoulder :) ;D :D

It take me quite some time to remember or work out some of the acronyms and abbreviations that flop in front of me at times. ???

Still leave will end soon and then I can have a rest ;D

Richard.
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: MikeK on February 02, 2007, 08:55:33 am
Richard, I had forgotten that one - the almost indignant look followed by 'you're not due home yet !  >:( followed usually by the 'when you going back' bit)
Once, you looked forward to the time when you had dropped the pilot, given the engine room 'Full Away On Passage' and settled down to sea routine out of reach of all the office wallah's. Thanks to technology those days are long gone.
I miss the blokes, not the job  ;D ;D. Do you start psyching yourself up to go back a couple of days before leave end as well ?

MikeK

PS I suppose we should get back on topic, even though I started it,  ;)  someone might have a go about the hijacking ::) ::)
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: catengineman on February 03, 2007, 10:20:46 pm
MikeK,

 MMMMM.. yep ;D

Richard.
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: pete_486 on August 02, 2007, 11:33:39 pm
i got an auto bailer for one of my fast gas boats it was electric with a sensor to detect water.
i had the outlet pipe coupled up to a water outlet on the top of the transom and when it fired up it was like the ending to a blue movie so it got removed there and then, my mate was in stitches.
so i think ill keep the turkey baster...............Pete
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: OMK on August 19, 2007, 05:32:36 pm

and hows about FRI this was once sprung on me - hey whats FRI stand for - hadnt a clue... can anyone tell me??  ;D

Aye
JOHN E
BLUEBIRD

Hiya, John. How was your holiday?

I could be barking up the wrong tree here, but could FWI be a typo? Maybe it might be FWIW (For What It's Worth).
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: OMK on August 19, 2007, 05:43:42 pm
Oh, hang on... You said FRI - not FWI.
Oops!

Hmm... you got me stumped with that one.

My personal favourite is COAHTR (something to do with cats and heat and tin roofs).
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: malcolmfrary on August 19, 2007, 10:30:13 pm
COAPUIAB
Management description regarding their abilities at organising dinking sessions in breweries. 
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: portside II on August 23, 2007, 03:55:11 pm
god i stand more chance of plotting the course of them rubber ducks in the sea that your drifting  but thats another topic in a different area.
Back on the subject of bilge pumps ,on my Brakengarth i have a problem of water seaping through the rear hatch when she buries her bottom ,so to compensate i fitted a 12v fuel pump with silicone fuel tube from a clunk in the bilge and out via a T piece over the sides  which is operated from a Robbie servo switch .
so when she looks a bit low in the water i just pump her out ,as the pump motor is not shielded this has its advantage's when the JJC sound unit goes into full throttle a couple of flocks with the pump and it resets it .
The only other thing i have had to do is fit a filter in line as i broke the last pump when some muck jammed the cog's .
I did buy one of those water alarms from Maplins with the intention of fitting it in Brakengarth wired to the pump but haven't got round to it yet .
daz
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: Mr Andy on December 11, 2007, 08:40:58 pm
Here are gent's try this http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/ (http://www.gaarde.org/acronyms/) hope it helps. :) O0
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: andygh on December 12, 2007, 10:04:32 pm
Personally I like DILLIGAF   {-)
Title: Re: Tool Box Bilge Pump
Post by: djrobbo on December 13, 2007, 10:16:13 am


Here you are boys...two for our beloved government........SNAFU.....  or .....FUBAR...( my springer tug is called fubar 1 )

            ho ...ho....ho.....merry christmas

          bob