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Title: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: harinell on November 03, 2010, 07:43:05 PM
here is my first attempt, does any one know anything about this engine
a Large twin cylinder steam engine
height 135mm high x 200mm long and 85mm wide.
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 03, 2010, 08:20:40 PM
           That's it!   :-))
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: harinell on November 03, 2010, 08:38:19 PM
Thank you Martin, computor sorted, will take some pictures of my windermere launch and post them.
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on November 03, 2010, 08:55:11 PM
Posting picture, have a read through this...

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=23.msg2630#msg2630

Harinell,

Read the link Martin has indicated above and try it.
Was having plenty of problems tying to post pictures, but after reading the thread and am now able to resize and post pictures.
Computer literacy is not one of my strong points but it works plus I like simple solutions.

 :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: harinell on November 03, 2010, 09:09:03 PM
Thanks for your interest, with Martins help job sorted.
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Post by: Perkasaman2 on November 03, 2010, 11:01:34 PM
Hi harinell, well done!  By the way, you've made 25 + 2 = 27 posts on my count NOT 17.  :-))

(I'll have to stop ignoring the red warning which leaps onto the reply screen when composing replies which warns that further posts have been made on the thread.)
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: Peter Fitness on November 04, 2010, 02:52:40 AM
By the way, you've made 25 + 2 = 27 posts on my count NOT 17. 

There's only 17 listed, Perkasaman.

Peter.
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: Circlip on November 04, 2010, 08:35:51 AM
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does any one know anything about this engine

  Looks very much like the piston valve version of Bertinats "Borderer". If looking down on the top of the engine the cylinder covers have a flat on the diameters where they touch, it's the "Marcher" the Borderers are fully circular, and if you require the further information for either or both engines PM me.

  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: harinell on November 04, 2010, 09:38:40 AM
Many thanks Ian,
its was made by a Mr George Roskil, so I'am told, here are a few more pictures, I have this advertised on Engines for sale, its not mine it belongs to Albert Flood.
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Post by: SteamboatPhil on November 04, 2010, 10:21:44 AM
Humm looks like a slide valve to me, you might have to take the valve chest cover off to confirm that though, nice engine though  :-))
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: Circlip on November 04, 2010, 12:02:29 PM
Tis a slide valve.

  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: harinell on November 04, 2010, 03:19:51 PM
Good afternoon all,
I'am posting some photgraphs of my windermere launch, this is my first actual building of a model boat, the hull was bought, the rest from lathe blinds,
Up to now it can be altered and it will be, as I go along I'am seeing things which need attention, the front and rear sections will be covered by a canopy .It will  be battery driven,
my next one will be steam driven.
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Post by: pugwash on November 04, 2010, 03:30:44 PM
Well what you have done so far looks pretty good, keep it up
Geoff
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Post by: harinell on November 04, 2010, 03:33:04 PM
Hello once again, this ia the start for my new steam boat a few pictures of my new Maccsteam 3 1/2" boiler and twin cylinder kit built engine from m/s Jotica, the hull is a Windermere type  when I unpack it I'll photgraph it, this set up runs very well on steam.
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: kno3 on November 04, 2010, 07:35:56 PM
Hi, I think the green engine might be made using Reeves castings.
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: harinell on November 05, 2010, 06:07:44 PM
good evening all,
here are  photographs of a hull which I think will make a nice large windermere launch,its in blue, it measures 51" long, and approx 9" wide, the boiler is a Maccsteam
3 1/2" and the engine is made from a kit supplied by Jokita, the engine like a copy of a chedder engine,  runs so sweetly on steam, cannot wait until it is run in. I
have the chioce of this hull in blue or one in white.opions please.
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Post by: HS93 (RIP) on November 05, 2010, 09:10:48 PM
Looks Great ,did I miss where the hulls where from ?

Thanks

 Peter
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Post by: gondolier88 on November 05, 2010, 09:15:43 PM
Personally, in white, then use it to model SL Bat- Alfred Sladen's personal launch, now in the steamboat museum. The model has very similar lines to her.

Just my opinion though. A very pretty hull no matter what you decide to do with it.

Lovely steam plant too.

Greg
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Post by: harinell on November 05, 2010, 09:30:33 PM
Hello Peter,
the hulls have no names, two were offered to me, I decided on the blue one, may buy the white one if funds allow it.
regards
Tom (harinell)
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Post by: pipercub1772 on December 04, 2010, 04:46:27 PM
Looks good up to now,Like the look of the brass top to the funnel are they for sale anywhere also are the hulls ,regards Allan
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: harinell on December 06, 2010, 05:54:08 PM
Hello
Sorry I cant help, the funnel top came with some spares I bought and the hulls are I believe las of a batch, I dont have a name for them.
regards
Tom
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: Circlip on December 06, 2010, 07:41:59 PM
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Hi, I think the green engine might be made using Reeves castings.

  The first photo made it unclear although the design seemed to be a "Bertinat", subsequent ones changed thoughts of it being a piston valve to a slide valve in seeing the end view. Although we still haven't seen a topish view, it seems to be a Bertinat Borderer (Yes, Reeves castings) non reversing double acting slide valve. The "PTO" on the end is non standard though as the original design had a waterpump spur gear driven on that end.

  Regards  Ian.
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: ooyah/2 on December 06, 2010, 08:31:05 PM
Circlip,
Bang on no doubt about it it's a Borderer slide valve made from Reeves castings.
Here's the piston valve engine with the pump all as  Bertinats drawing the only difference it's all made from scrap box.
Cylinder is from a square C.I. window sash weight of the most horrible rubbish.
The engine being piston valve it is reversible with the steam valve as per the smaller Marcher.
George.
(http://s4.postimage.org/2wycnwco4/P_VALVE_ENGINE_4.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2wycnwco4/)
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Post by: andywright on December 20, 2010, 02:17:52 PM
Many thanks Ian,
its was made by a Mr George Roskil, so I'am told, here are a few more pictures, I have this advertised on Engines for sale, its not mine it belongs to Albert Flood.

I am not 100% sure, but is that asbestos paste lagging, on the manifold, or a look alike beware.

Andy
Title: Re: Harinell's engine etc.
Post by: Circlip on December 20, 2010, 04:13:04 PM
Shame on you George,Allen Cap Screws holding the heads on????? :o

 But there again, you do tend to make working engines rather than Bling Queens. %)


  Regards   Ian.
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Post by: ooyah/2 on December 21, 2010, 09:41:10 PM
Ian,
I like cap screws you could dismantle that engine with 2-keys, besides I had a surplus of 6 ba and 4 ba screws and being high tensile they hold on the cylinder head of my Flash steamer , just like the pic. 4 ba cap screws holding the steel cylinder head which is machined from a solid lump of M/S and tapped into 70 ton tensile cast iron cylinder flange., this pic was taken when the engine was new, the head is now burned black.
(http://s4.postimage.org/718oumjo/New_in_position_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/718oumjo/)

(http://s4.postimage.org/71fb00is/New_Plant_3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/71fb00is/)

I now use hex head bolts as I have run out of cap screws. pity though that they are so expensive, if I wanted bling how about chromed cap screws.
George.