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Title: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 08, 2010, 11:30:26 PM
sep 30th .

Oki So i finally got round to ordering my Loyal class from model slipway last week and thanks to the fast delivery i received it after 3 days  ..

before i started any work i read though the instructions and done some history, i decided that instead of doing everything at once id slow down and take my time.

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Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 08, 2010, 11:34:17 PM
november 1st..

i took a trip to my local model shop and picked up some filler... plastered the inside of the hull where the deck will be and started to sand it ..
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i also sanded down the join that goes around the hull .....
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Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 08, 2010, 11:36:35 PM
november 8th .
i havent had much time lately to work on the boat .. but i managed to get around to cutting out some of the freeing ports . 
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Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 08, 2010, 11:39:13 PM
23rd november .

got the last of the freeing ports cut out today and made a start on the side doors, i had a bit of trouble getting the cut out on the hulls to the correct size but nothing a bit of filler wont fix..

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Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: oldiron on November 08, 2010, 11:47:57 PM
  Following your thread with interest. I rather like that vessel. It'll be interesting to see how you make out and what you think of the kit.

John
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 08, 2010, 11:50:09 PM
8th november ,

just relised in my last 2 post's i put november . lol silly me . i should have put October.

anyway today i got the prop shaft it .. had a small problem with the prop shaft because i managed to drill the hole on an angle, its oki now but the hole is a tad big and will need to be filled in ......

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the rudder went on better, just a slight between the hull and the cast metal fitting for the rudder. yet again nothing some filler wont fix .

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i also managed to cut the hole out for at the front of the hull . i was hoping to do the others but i need to double check my measurements

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if anyone can spot where i can improve or if any of you have any advice , please say because im always open to advice, :) thanks guys . more to come tomorrow once i get to Antics to get some wood for the servo shelf, and the stand for the power distribution panel :D
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 08, 2010, 11:53:13 PM
  Following your thread with interest. I rather like that vessel. It'll be interesting to see how you make out and what you think of the kit.

John

Hi John . the kits fantastic.... like tbh its good for me cuz its HUGE lol and from my past models i dont do well with small models , i tend to lose parts and break parts, however the parts on this kit are ideal for me as they are bigger .

i also found the models by design have a kit for 1/48 scale, i hope after this kit i can get the 1/48 kit and paint it in the yellow buff .

Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: triumphjon on November 08, 2010, 11:53:37 PM
dan if you are close to bristol docks there is a full sized one moored there most weeks , it out of mod service but seems to be used for private charter and sea cadet trips , she is painted in light grey , may be good for some close up photos ? sorry cant remember her name , maybe contacting the local harbour masters office they can put you in touch with its owner ? jon
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 12:00:27 AM
dan if you are close to bristol docks there is a full sized one moored there most weeks , it out of mod service but seems to be used for private charter and sea cadet trips , she is painted in light grey , may be good for some close up photos ? sorry cant remember her name , maybe contacting the local harbour masters office they can put you in touch with its owner ? jon

Yes jon that is my plan for tomorrow as a matter of fact. i live in kingwood . so antics is just a sort ride, i tend to stop by the docks on the way and get a few snap's .
the pride of bristol is and interesting vessel . i remember taking a tour of it as a young boy in the harbour festival .
i have the website of the owners and i am trying to get hold of them . just so i can find out some info on the engine, and maybe gain some inside snaps .

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: oldiron on November 09, 2010, 12:05:11 AM
I believe this is the one Jon was referring to.

John
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 12:08:29 AM
yes, thats the pride of bristol. its user for weekends away, i always thought there was two down in bristol docks, when i went down last weekend there's only the one .
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: oldiron on November 09, 2010, 12:16:06 AM
  I took the picture last September. I only saw the one. I wasn't aware they may be another one.

John
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 12:18:12 AM
ahh . yeah i remember seeing two . altho i was about 7 lol .
yeah i went down last weekend and thats the only one ..
not sure how much of the vessel is original. worth a look tho .

thanks for the photo john .. ill post the ones i get tomorrow on aswell .

Dan 
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: CGAux26 on November 09, 2010, 12:31:18 AM
Howdy, Dan2010, and welcome to the Loyal "club."  I am about 90-95% complete with mine, painted in the yellow of the RMAS.  Here are a couple of threads where others have built Loyal models (I have not put up a build log yet, as I have been slo-o-ow at it.)  It's a very nice kit, and MS gives great support to me over here in Washington State, US, by e-mail and quick shipment of a few parts I have broken.

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25867.0;topicseen

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1856.25

There may still be other build logs, like on RCGroups.com, and on the MS website.
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 12:45:58 AM
CGAux26 yeah i know what you mean . i got my boat on the 22nd sept and i opened it up and i ordered the brass prop , thing is the brass prop needs a 5mm prop shaft where as the white metal one only needs a 4mm.... anyway i opened it up and tried to screw the prop on and it wouldnt go .. i emailed MS and to be honest i wasnt expecting a reply for days because i know they popular and tbh i didnt really need the shaft for a few weeks.... anyway i checked my email to find something and to my surprise they'd sent me an email. must have been within half hour to an hour,
anyway i received the new shaft within days and i can only thank them for their help ... anyone wanting a model boat should go to model slipway ..
 CGAux26 would be cool if you posted some pictures with some info ....
if you want ill give you my e-mail and we can exchange info

Dan  :-) :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 03:48:37 PM
Oki so i went down to bristol docks today and took some pictures of the "pride of bristol" witch is a loyal class ship. it not the same as the one im building but it was nice to get some snaps to work on ...
 
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Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 03:51:31 PM
i have also made a start on the motor mount .. hopfully but the end of the night the motor mount will be in place along wth the servo shelf
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: triumphjon on November 09, 2010, 09:33:10 PM
hi dan , your right there used to be a pair of them , the other one used to have a black hull and grey superstructure , although ive not noticed it for a while (bristol is my home city ) it may be worth asking over at the office at underfall yard as they may know of its whereabouts ? it wont be any further up river as its to tall to get under bristol bridge ! , bathurst basin i think is mostly a cruising club ? , although it may be down at portishead  ? maybe a google sat map will show its location , its cheaper than gallons of petrol searching !
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on November 09, 2010, 09:44:01 PM
Hey Dan, Im at the same stage as you on my Loyal class. Im thinking of modeling it on the SD MENAI . it is a good kit to build. hope to see more of your build.
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 10:14:48 PM
Hey Dan, Im at the same stage as you on my Loyal class. Im thinking of modeling it on the SD MENAI . it is a good kit to build. hope to see more of your build.

thanks .. im not to keen on the yellow buff myself . however i do tend to build a smaller 1/48 tender and paint it yellow buff..

you should post some pic's on this threat be nice to see another modellers work of art  :-)

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on November 09, 2010, 10:48:26 PM
I will have to sort it out one day and put it on here. i do stuggle with some things on it, being in a wheelchair,and eye sight going too lol. but there is always a way around problems. i dont live to far from Menai so might try and get some photos of the real thing.

   stewart.

 
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: fatcat123 on November 09, 2010, 10:51:01 PM
Dan, i'm liking the build so far, keep up the good work.

Stewart, I'd also love to see your build to what is quite an atttractive boat.

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 10:52:58 PM
Dan, i'm liking the build so far, keep up the good work.

Stewart, I'd also love to see your build to what is quite an atttractive boat.

Dan

Thanks , ive just done the motor mount . i tried to make one but im not sure if it will last , i will post a picture in the next few mins , just waiting for the pictures to upload.

Dan D
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 11:09:47 PM
heres the pic's of the motor mount


(http://s1.postimage.org/gaP7S.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wu4opslg/)

Okay i know what you guys are thinking " what the jiminy cricket's is that"

well thats why attempt of a motor mount . dont worry i have spare wood for any mod's

what i intend to do is add 4 screws to the side frame and hold the motor on with elastic bands . not sure if it will work but ive seen pics .. lol 
 :D
 because of all the added stuff im putting in the boat im going to need a power distribution panel ... i hope to make a stand that will enable me to take the top off so i can get to the motor for any reason's

im hoping to make a start on the servo shelf tomorrow . so will add pics as i go . :)

thanks guys

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on November 09, 2010, 11:19:52 PM
ok Dan you made me want to do some more. i will try and put a few pics on here tomorrow.
 all the best   stewart
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 11:22:34 PM
ok Dan you made me want to do some more. i will try and put a few pics on here tomorrow.
 all the best   stewart

lol sorry stewart just ina boat build mood lol .

anyways i have no doubts that your model will look fab  :-))

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: oldiron on November 09, 2010, 11:25:29 PM
 dan:

 I'm wondering if your prop shaft tube and motor mount may not need to be a little more beefy. I'm thinking of vibration and wondering if it might not tell, over time, on the mounts you.

John
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Martin [Admin] on November 09, 2010, 11:32:24 PM
I spotted this in Milford Haven a little while back, is she a Loyal Supporter too?

Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 11:46:59 PM
dan:

 I'm wondering if your prop shaft tube and motor mount may not need to be a little more beefy. I'm thinking of vibration and wondering if it might not tell, over time, on the mounts you.

John

yes i intend to get the motor running tomorrow or over the next week or two , too see what it will be like, i found out that SHG models do have a mount for some motors and i may ring them to see if the have one bigg enough for my motor..
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 09, 2010, 11:55:54 PM
I spotted this in Milford Haven a little while back, is she a Loyal Supporter too?



Hi martain . she is infact R.M.A.S. ELKSTONE and she used to carry the pennant number (A353).

she is of the same type of vessel . however not the same class.

as you know the loyal supporter is of the loyal class build . the R.M.A.S. ELKSTONE is of the 31 Clovelly Class.

altho they are different class vessels they are simular and i thank you for posting the pictures. .. they are vary interesting  :-)

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: CGAux26 on November 10, 2010, 01:37:05 AM
Here's my motor mount, and how it's installed in the hull.  I made a 1/8" thick plywood platform with blind mounting nuts and painted it.  Having the blind nuts lets me use hex head screws, so the motor can be removed and reinstalled with no loss of strength.  It's glued into the hull with 3M 4200 white sealant.  The motor mount came with the Robbe geared motor.  It's a thick piece of aluminum sheet, bent at 90 degrees and machined for the fins on the motor.  I use a thin rubber sheet between motor mount and plywood, which cuts down vibration and noise.  Having this type of mount will allow me to change motors, as long as the new motor has a shorter centerline height, and then it can be shimmed to align with the prop shaft.

I have made a similar mount for my Springer's motor, and no problems after 3 years hard running. 
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 10, 2010, 04:31:34 PM
oki so the motor stand didnt go so well .   {:-{ :(( so im going to need to think of another way to hold the motor down ..

on the plus side i managed to get the servo on .
i made a little self that will enable me to still access the motor ..


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hopfully tomorrow i will get the hinge's done on the side door and get the holes done at the rear and front of the vessel .

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on November 11, 2010, 11:37:51 AM
Hi Dan, i see you have a brass prop on your model. did it come with the kit, or have you bought it?
Ive done a bit to mine got the motor in and a shelf for servo.
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 11, 2010, 12:15:12 PM
Hi Dan, i see you have a brass prop on your model. did it come with the kit, or have you bought it?
Ive done a bit to mine got the motor in and a shelf for servo.

Hi stew49 yes i brought the prop, i think it was 12 pounds, i think the brass prop look better ! ..

your servo mount's nice, where did you get your motor mount from ? if i may ask .

im still finding it hard to get hold of one ..

i have been trying to get some done on the boat today , hit a brick wall with the gun whale doors, i cant seem to get the correct measurement's for them .

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: oldiron on November 11, 2010, 12:29:59 PM
  Dan

  Those motor mounts are quite easy to make. Make a cardboard template to get the hole placement on the motor and base right, then use the cardboard as a pattern to trace the relative sizes and positions onto a piece of aluminum or brass (1/16" thick is sufficient). After the holes are drilled bend the metal to a right angle and mount. Job done for pennies rather that buy for pounds.

John
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on November 11, 2010, 12:45:37 PM
think i payed 4 off of ebay. i will have to get me a brass prop looks alot better. ive only screwed thr servo shelf on, so can easily take it off. i need to think about battery box next, need battery first though lol.
as for the (gun whale doors) do you mean bulwark doors on side of hull. i would cut them out smaller and then file them out to fit  D27



stewart
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 11, 2010, 02:52:54 PM
i got a 12V battery . fits in nice and snugg .

yea well i cut the doors out and put D27 in . but in the instructions it says to make up hinge's like i dont want them to open i just need a measurement of the hinge to cut out of plastic, mainly for strength ..

oki ill have alook ..

the brass prop i got my from model slipway, its takes a 5mm shaft , i got a feeling the shaft you have is 4mm..
try
prop shop and or westbourne models, they do brass props..
http://www.prop-shop.co.uk
http://www.westbourne-model.co.uk/propellers-and-shafts-5605-0.html

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: triumphjon on November 11, 2010, 03:37:40 PM
hi dan , knowing you are in bristol have you tried the other two shops to get any parts from ? you have als hobbies in filton ave ( bs 7 )  and what used to be fred coulson models ( still there but under a new owner / name ) on wells road near the happy landings public house ! if you need a better marine type shop then waverly models are down at clevedon !
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 11, 2010, 04:27:41 PM
hi dan , knowing you are in bristol have you tried the other two shops to get any parts from ? you have als hobbies in filton ave ( bs 7 )  and what used to be fred coulson models ( still there but under a new owner / name ) on wells road near the happy landings public house ! if you need a better marine type shop then waverly models are down at clevedon !

Hi triumphjon i have been to als hobbies , they didnt have much. i havent been to the other one soo ill take a drive out there next week..
im going to the warwick boat show the weekend soo im going to take the motor up with me and see what i can find
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 12, 2010, 02:14:40 PM
okay so i spend the morning adding filler to the rudder area, and sanding down the hull to create the curve,

pictures to follow...

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: farrow on November 12, 2010, 10:49:11 PM
Those pics of the grey F/T are of one of three boats, the Raliegh training boats, Manly, Millbrook and one other. They where only ones to be painted grey and fly the white ensign, besides having the prefix HMS. They where sold in indecent haste by the mod to the scrap guy in Pompey for 119k, he sold one on immediately for 250k and a similiar price for the second one not long after. They where not advertised to other RN departments ethier and one or two went nuts when they found out as they desperately wanted them, they had all just been fitted with new high definition radar at over 50k each, which went with the boats.
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: slug on November 13, 2010, 06:40:42 PM
builds are very interesting i have one bought 75% built no motor what motors did you use?  i have a 540  or a 540 geared2-1 which one would be best on 6volt thank you   slug
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 13, 2010, 08:59:07 PM
oki i havent have much time today , i went to the model boat show in warwickshire :D pictures to follow later..

i did manage to buy a motor mount . only problem is the holes need to be re-drilled because the screws supplied are too big.

i also managed to buy a 15amp, viper speed controller, im hopeing all the electrics are in so on the 5th december i can take it out to the boating lake and see how she runs .

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 13, 2010, 09:01:26 PM
builds are very interesting i have one bought 75% built no motor what motors did you use?  i have a 540  or a 540 geared2-1 which one would be best on 6volt thank you   slug

Hi Slug, um im not sure i have a 12 volt motor in mine,, either one should be oki if you ask me .. the 540 is a graupner am i right in thinking ??

Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 13, 2010, 10:33:32 PM
here some pics from todays boat show
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(http://s1.postimage.org/1xe78o3r8/DSC_0035.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1xe78o3r8/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/1xeajqsqs/DSC_0034.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1xeajqsqs/)

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Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: colin-d on November 14, 2010, 11:09:14 AM
this seems to be a popular Build at the moment i enjoyed building mine

My Loyal (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/Modellers/Colin_East/1ndex.htm)
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: slug on November 14, 2010, 06:28:50 PM
thank you for the info on motors willtry non geared first fingers crossed ihave a spare 900 would run on 6 volts
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: farrow on November 15, 2010, 09:58:05 PM
Ref the grey boat in Bristol, it is one of three used by HMS Rayleigh, Millbrook and two others. They where the only F/T that where painted Grey overall and also fly the white ensign, the RNX boats flew there own Blue ensign as did the PAS/RMAS boats did. The three RN F/T where sold out from the MoD to the scrapper in Portsmouth for 119k who quickly sold two for 250k each, they never made it into another MoD dep't.
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: soldier151 on November 16, 2010, 12:50:55 AM
Hi Guys,
Been following your build, well done,
Checked the Club Database and came acroos the following articles which might be of interest
Loyal Moderator - Kit Review Ivor Warne - Model Boats Mar/Apr/May 96
Loyal Moderator -David Metcalf - MB Dec 1981
Loyal Fleet Tender - David Semper Kit Review Marine Modelling Jun 95
John Hodges Kit Update Marine Modelling Feb 97
Alan Poole - Marine Modelling Jan 2005
Ivor Warne - Kit Review Marine Modelling Apr 1996
Hope this helps - let me know if you need copies and I'll dig them out and photocopy
Cheers Soldier151 - A lifeboat freaky at Killingworth Model Boat Club (Up North) Howay the Lads
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on November 18, 2010, 11:36:08 AM
Hey Dan, how's it going, have you got much more done. Ive done a bit more. putting deck supports in. Very fiddly things  %% Will put another pic up soon.

 stewart
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 18, 2010, 01:47:54 PM
Hey Dan, how's it going, have you got much more done. Ive done a bit more. putting deck supports in. Very fiddly things  %% Will put another pic up soon.

 stewart

hi stewart yes i havent done much tho .. i managed to pick up a motor mount last weekend at warwick model boat show, just needed some smaller screws, managed to get them at B&Q today so at some point tonight the motor mount shell be in the hull...

i also got a speed controller so that will go in tonight aswell,

im going to do the anchor resess's saturday night and hopfully get the deck supports in, the hopfully sunday i can make a start on the bilge keels,

its been raining alot latley so i havent been able to sand the inside bulwarks but i picked up some sandpaper and hopfully that shall be done later in the week.....

photos will follow later on tonight ....

kind regards
Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on November 18, 2010, 02:45:35 PM
a few pics. still abit to do.
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 18, 2010, 04:43:20 PM
your loyal is coming along nicely stewert ..

im almost at the same point as you ..
the deck support's andachor resses's will be done saturday and hopefully i can finish getting the ports at the front and rear done aswell ...

i dont want t glue the deck on at this stage but we will have to wait and see how it pan's out over the next week..

im taking her out on the 5dec for a test run so i need to get her level and that before then ...
keep the picture coming stew  :-) ill be posting some of mine later on tonight  {:-{ got work soon so havent got time ..

kind regards
Dan 
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 27, 2010, 03:12:55 PM
oki this is the first post on this log for about 2 week's sorry guys busy at work ...
anyway i finally got the motor mount it . and the servo self is done and it has enoff space for the ESC/Servo/Sound generator/Power distribution panel.

i have been working on another boat. just adding some bits . and heres the pictures ..
the model is a dumas model....
(http://s3.postimage.org/21m2solvo/DSC_0092.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/21m2solvo/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/21nbg6z7o/DSC_0082.jpg) (http://www.postimage.org/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/usw8lsx0/100_0677.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/usw8lsx0/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/utcrz9us/100_0674.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/utcrz9us/)
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on December 03, 2010, 06:32:20 PM
Hey Dan. nice to see your other model, looks good. what scale is it?. Ive got my battery and bow thruster, just got to work out how to get it in the right place. (bow thruster that is)
will have  a go at it this w-end i think.

 stewart  :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on December 25, 2010, 04:21:13 PM
hii  stewart sorry i havent replyed for age's . ive been offered a job out at bristol airport so been trying to get all my paperwork sorted.

um the kit itself is a discontinued kit from dumas.
its  a 1/12 scale . the kit is made up of all wood, however the only plastic bit it the wheelhouse roof.. was a nice kit to build however vary hard due to lack of explanation in the instructions.

okay so i have actually made progress on my loyal class vessel.
i receved a power panel from harbor models, a sound unit, and some light fitting's
i still need a smoke generator, and radar motor :D..

tomorrow i should get the anchor reesess done and then get the deck support's in ...

Dan   
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on December 25, 2010, 04:49:15 PM
Hey Dan, no worrys m8. I been ill so not done much myself. good to here about the job, hope it goes well.
dont think i could do an all wood construction kit. hope to see a bit more of your loyal soon.
i still havent put the bow thruster in. just building the anchor winch. looks ok.
 

  stewart :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on December 25, 2010, 05:12:49 PM
yeahh alot of bug's going around atm .
yeahh should be starting after the new year so progress will slow down again. altho im hoping to get to the stage i can put the deck on be4 i start. hopfully then i can build it up slowly ..
ill hadd some pic's later .
well tbh its look's nice now it's finished but it was a night mare lol
Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on September 05, 2011, 05:17:39 PM
Hey Dan, hows things with you. not seen anything of you on here for a while. How's the Loyal coming along. Ive done a bit on mine, had it in the water to see how it sits.

 Stewart :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: mark fd277 on September 06, 2011, 02:37:10 PM
hi dan 2010 if you need any pix of the inside if the elkstone just let me no what you need, as i no the owner and can catch him when he comes down the dock 
regards mark
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Tim B. on September 09, 2011, 03:11:38 PM
Hello, I am somewhat new to this group, have built only one boat so far.
I am lucky, I have managed to find one of the last Loyal tenders, it was in Australia, I have it now in California.
I will start a build log when I begin, but in the mean time I want to say thanks to all of you who have posted all of this information, it will be invaluable.
I would very much like to see more pics of the real vessel, close ups of the deck and superstructure.
Thanks, Tim B.
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on September 11, 2011, 08:49:36 PM
Hi Tim B, have a look at these build logs, lots of good ideas.   http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=27273.0       http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25867.0
i was lucky. got mine off e-bay.  Hope you have lots of fun building it, look forward to seeing your build log too.

 Stewart :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 07, 2011, 11:08:53 AM
hey guy's sorry i havent posed anything on here in  long time, the boats coming on fine, havent really done much over the past few months ive been buying the bits and bobs to go inside the hull, i now have the battery, power panel, sound unit and smoke unit, i shell be cracking on with the build tonight, ive now got 3 weeks off work so hopefully there will be new post's each day :) ill take some pictures of what has been done this year so you guys can take a look ..

thanks.
Dan
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 07, 2011, 12:18:45 PM
RIGHHHTTTT so my 40amp ESC finally came today,

i fished to boat out of the shed, got the battery and that wired up, open up my ESC and guess what!!

none of the wires are connected  {:-{ some how i dont think thats right. so if anyone can give me a heads up to weather it is or not that'll be brill, been waiting for this for a month becuase they accepted payment when they didnt have it in stock so im feeling a good old shouting match coming on -.-
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: farrow on November 07, 2011, 05:30:39 PM
The 75ft FT shown in grey at Bristol is not a loyal class type, the loyals where the same as the AD Menai. The grey one is one of the Manly group of 4 used by HMS Raleigh for training, until the whole group was sold out for a total of 119k to Pounds at Portsmouth who quickly sold 2 for 250k each. The Raleigh boats where different in the construction of the accommodation, otherwise all the group 2 FT had the same hull shape and accommodation block, the main difference was the hatch openings depending wether they where passenger type or general purpose.
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: farrow on November 09, 2011, 08:55:51 AM
Another mod to these boats for those interested is the early type 2 FT where DC electrics but the later ones had AC electrics, this showed itself in the electric motors on deck for the anchor and derreick winches. The AC being alot smaller smaller and more powerful. As an aside has anyone thought of converting thier hulls into a diving FT, this would mean fitting a diving recompression chamber on the deck, as yet have not seen one anywhere and it would make an interesting individual model. I believe the RN divers ran one based on the West Coast of Scotland.
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 16, 2011, 04:41:11 PM
hey guy's after testing out all the electronics i managed to burn the sound unit, so thanks to the guys at http://www.technobotsonline.com i now have a working sound unit, everything is all wired and A'okay, i started to look at the superstructure last night but there is a cut out that goes ontop of thedeck panel,s now im abit stuck for how far forward or aft it goes so anyone with a picture if you can pop it on the blog that would be a great help, ill post a few pictures in the next few days :D
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: CGAux26 on November 16, 2011, 11:19:29 PM
I don't quite understand your question.  Pictures will help.  But look at my build log for any help it gives you.

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=27273.0

Dave
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 17, 2011, 02:09:19 PM
sorry if no one understood the last question, when you start to build up the lower superstructure there,s a part that goes over the top of the deck combings, i just woundered how far forward and aft the part should over hang.

Thanks Dan 
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: stew49 on November 17, 2011, 04:21:49 PM
Hi Dan. is it this top bit tour up to, have you seen the small rebait on the sides?
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 18, 2011, 06:00:49 PM
finally, ive managed to build the lower superstructure, iknow most people say keep the fitting's off the model, paint last and add them last, BUT!! i was too into the build and ended up adding the window covers :/ anyway it looks cracking  {-) %% one thing i have noticed is theres not actually that much left to build, im hoping tomorrow i can have 50-75% of the wheelhouse built, and come sunday when everything is finally wired up correctly and neatly, i can have the deck on :D

i even had enough time to pop out to bristol airport and have some time to follow my other passion,
what's that you say, well aviation photography.  :-)) i had my camera on charge to take so forgot to take any pictures of the boat  {:-{ so heres a few i took at the airport  :-)

(http://s11.postimage.org/nedybuz33/DSC_0696.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nedybuz33/)


(http://s12.postimage.org/y9idai149/DSC_0761.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/y9idai149/)
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: CGAux26 on November 18, 2011, 11:01:24 PM
I finally got time to look into this.  I had the same question.  The answer is the lower cabin goes as far back as it can.  There is about 1.25" of overlap at the back end.  The inside vertical surface of the cabin front goes against the front outside surface of the coaming that is part of the deck.  Huh??  Pictures should help.

Keep up the good work.  The model will draw lots of good attention when complete and running   :-))
Title: Re: Loyal Supporter Build
Post by: Dan2010 on November 19, 2011, 03:03:29 PM
whopp :D progress today has been pretty good, i've got the deck for the wheelhouse on and i have just installed the nav-light box's, hopfully by the end of the day ill have most of the wheelhouse features done so i can paint the inside and get the roof on :D