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Dry Dock / Shipyard: Builds & Questions => Submarines => Topic started by: unbuiltnautilus on December 15, 2010, 06:56:21 PM

Title: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 15, 2010, 06:56:21 PM
Okay, I will admit to being a bit of a Nautilus anorak from the start, ask any of our members!! I have obtained an Engel Akula and, upon looking about on the old internet thingy, have decided that there are a number of really nice representations of this sub out there.why compete, therefore I have decided to butcher it..
(http://s3.postimage.org/g4txy9ms/ndv7dhmod1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/g4txy9ms/)
I have been sketching Nautilus designs for the last five years, this has resulted in a design I am happy with and intend to build soon. However, the Akula offered me an oportunity to get a Nautilus on the water a bit quicker ( and it only took two days to pin down the design!! ). I have christened it 'The Streamliner' while the other design is 'The Beast'! You will have to wait to see The Beast, its a BEAST...
What do you guys think??
 For those with a taste for big brass submarines, check out the link below, its an inspiration.
http://www.vernianera.com/Nautilus/Catalog/
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on December 15, 2010, 09:34:07 PM
be different , stand out from the crowd , it would make a change to see something a little out of the ordinary at the lake !
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Lord Bungle on December 15, 2010, 09:43:19 PM
what about this one?

(http://s2.postimage.org/27mt81hb8/nautilus_63y.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/27mt81hb8/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: oldiron on December 15, 2010, 11:52:12 PM
As some inspiration, here's a Nautilus produced by some one here in southern Ontario, some years ago.

John
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Lord Bungle on December 16, 2010, 01:41:58 AM
Love it, I am a bit of a Steampunk, and one day I will get my head around building a steamboat of some type in a steampunk style.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unicorn on December 16, 2010, 10:51:18 AM
 ;) ;) ;) ;)

           Members of the Portsmouth Branch of the" NAUTILII-BUSTERS" (ghost-buster variety) practising
   on our local lake in case any unbuiltnautilus appear, we`ve had 10 years to prepare so far  ---------------

                     and we`re CONFIDENT of another EON !!!!

                                                                                  5p bet anybody
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 16, 2010, 12:58:51 PM
what about this one?

(http://s2.postimage.org/27mt81hb8/nautilus_63y.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/27mt81hb8/)

The first time I saw the 'leagues' nautilus I nearly threw my popcorn at the screen, then it proceeded to plane across the ocean at 50 knots and squeeze into a canal in venice.... I hated it, however, now all is forgiven, I love it. Still a bit big though.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Lord Bungle on December 16, 2010, 01:04:10 PM
yep those canals must be deep  {-)
but then its hollywood science, like the magnetic lead and gold in the last indiana jones film  :o
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 16, 2010, 01:08:56 PM
yep those canals must be deep  {-)
but then its hollywood science, like the magnetic lead and gold in the last indiana jones film  :o
[Buck Rogers had a golden rocketship, El Dorado, That was magnetic... Truly truth is stranger than fiction....or is it hte other way round?/quote]
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 16, 2010, 01:19:02 PM
;) ;) ;) ;)

           Members of the Portsmouth Branch of the" NAUTILII-BUSTERS" (ghost-buster variety) practising
   on our local lake in case any unbuiltnautilus appear, we`ve had 10 years to prepare so far  ---------------

                     and we`re CONFIDENT of another EON !!!!

                                                                                  5p bet anybody?

You dont have 5p!!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 16, 2010, 01:21:15 PM
HELP!!
My replies are ending up in your quotes... am I an idiot or something?
Cannot believe I just asked that question on this forum111 O0
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: cruser on December 16, 2010, 08:17:15 PM
Do you really need an answer to " am i an idiot " not from me, i know you   :o  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Anyway havn't i seen this picture before in the shop somewhere, must be about 3-4 years ago, how long does it take to build something this simples, i mean a man of your talents should have knocked it out by now  :kiss: :kiss: :D
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on December 16, 2010, 09:36:16 PM
nah , hes too busy making other peoples models instead of building his own !
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Lord Bungle on December 16, 2010, 09:38:44 PM
I find if you click the reply button at bottom of posts it replies, but if you click the quote button in a post it quotes  :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 17, 2010, 09:46:46 AM
Do you really need an answer to " am i an idiot " not from me, i know you   :o  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

Anyway havn't i seen this picture before in the shop somewhere, must be about 3-4 years ago, how long does it take to build something this simples, i mean a man of your talents should have knocked it out by now  :kiss: :kiss: :D



This design is my '48 Hour Nautilus' the other one is my '5 Year Nautilus', perfection takes a little time!!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: sunworksco on December 18, 2010, 09:35:47 PM
I like this version.
Regards,
Giovanni
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: sunworksco on December 18, 2010, 09:37:12 PM
Another.
Giovanni
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: sunworksco on December 18, 2010, 09:38:48 PM
One more.
Giovanni
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: derekwarner on December 18, 2010, 10:40:53 PM
Giovanni .....the image of the submarine in the enclosed sub-pen is mirror reversed to the other two images.......so does this mean it is not a real vessel?  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) %% Derek  :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: bat44 on December 19, 2010, 06:48:13 PM
    if you build it they we come


                                         bat44
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: bat44 on December 19, 2010, 06:53:13 PM
 but then will you build it all is going on the list of things to do ;)      %% %% %% {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 20, 2010, 02:04:43 PM
I like this version.
Regards,
Giovanni



This sub is a fantastic design, although it isnt specifically a Nautilus. I notice it is referred to as 'Discovery' in this image. Is that a german Imperial Eagle logo on the wall of the adjacent Pen? If so, is this a screen grab from either'Raiders' or Das Boot, with a really cool submarine design 'photoshopped' into the image??
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: sunworksco on December 24, 2010, 06:38:42 AM
You win the contest ! :-)) :-))
Regards,
Giovanni
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 24, 2010, 07:37:40 AM

Don't forget the Nautilus from film "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen"

(http://www.modelshipmaster.com/products/submarines/nautilus%20(11).JPG)

(http://www.modelshipmaster.com/products/submarines/nautilus%20(5).JPG)
http://www.modelshipmaster.com/products/submarines/nautilus.htm

I love "steam punk"....... I heard of a book / novel about that the Victorians had perfected the computer, the mechanical computer, 'The Probability Engine', or something like that but I've never found it even after extensive searches...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: w3bby on December 24, 2010, 08:29:23 AM

I love "steam punk"....... I heard of a book / novel about that the Victorians had perfected the computer, the mechanical computer, 'The Probability Engine', or something like that but I've never found it even after extensive searches...

Try a search for Charles Babbage and Ada  ok2
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 24, 2010, 09:14:07 AM
That book is called 'The Difference Engine' co-written by Willaim Gibson and Bruce Sterling. Good book.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Difference-Engine-Gollancz-S-F/dp/0575600292

On a more factual basis, I recommend 'The Cogwheel Brain' by Doron Swade. This book makes fascinating reading.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 24, 2010, 12:31:11 PM
You win the contest ! :-)) :-))
Regards,
Giovanni


I think the contest is still on, who will be on the water first???? :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Martin [Admin] on December 24, 2010, 01:07:41 PM
BRILLIANT! Many thanks Subculture.....after all these years...

That book is called 'The Difference Engine' co-written by Willaim Gibson and Bruce Sterling. Good book.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Difference-Engine-Gollancz-S-F/dp/0575600292

On a more factual basis, I recommend 'The Cogwheel Brain' by Doron Swade. This book makes fascinating reading.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: bat44 on January 09, 2011, 01:40:14 PM
so what sort of time frame are we talking about for this 5p bet then ?.......5....10.......15....years, or have you come up with a new design

                                                         bat44
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 10, 2011, 11:12:51 AM
TWO designs, TWO 5p bets, are you up for the risk???
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: bat44 on January 10, 2011, 05:22:56 PM
YES so when are they to be built by?


                                     bat44
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 10, 2011, 05:24:32 PM
Oh yes, and the Engel Disney version, 15 pence and counting, What was the question??
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unicorn on January 10, 2011, 07:33:38 PM
 ok2 ok2 ok2 ok2 ok2
       
       Watch him Bat-man --  he hasn`t paid his last 5p
                                                                                       
                                        unicorn
                                                           >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on January 10, 2011, 09:53:11 PM
will it ever be started ? me thinks too many projects & not enough time to spread yourselves around thtem all !  :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: bat44 on January 12, 2011, 11:13:13 AM
well i believe it was 10p bet  not 15p and what is the time frame for these two designs

                                       bat44
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 14, 2011, 02:52:54 PM
well i believe it was 10p bet  not 15p and what is the time frame for these two designs

                                       bat44


Soon enough, you cynical person, soon you will all gaze upon the majesty of the first Nautilus of the fleet, once I have fitted 3000 extra rivets, anyway %%
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 16, 2011, 04:40:16 PM
Just a quick look at the last Nautilus I did, this was a repair and paint job, plus rivets. The technique I tried with this first model will be the one I will use on my own Engel model ni the coming weeks.
(http://s3.postimage.org/6flnouro/DSCF0015.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6flnouro/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/6fs9u8qs/DSCF0018.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6fs9u8qs/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/6fx8ga84/DSCF0019.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6fx8ga84/)
The 'rivets' consist of lead shot that has been sorted into same size balls via a modified pepper shaker ( bigger holes!). The positions are marked and then drilled out to half the diameter of the lead shot. This required a modified drill bitt and hasn't been perfected yet. The lead shot is then tacked into place with cyano glue, zapped with a spray activator, then a bead of low viscosity cyano is run around each rivet with a cocktail stick.
(http://s3.postimage.org/6g272bpg/DSCF0056.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6g272bpg/)
Once painted I was happy with the effect. Why, oh why has the Engel Nautilus only got rivets applied to the top half of the sub!!!?
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 16, 2011, 04:49:01 PM
Paint job was next, this can make or break a model and I think I succeeded this time :embarrassed:
(http://s3.postimage.org/6lnymnyc/DSCF0129.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6lnymnyc/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/6lzje3es/DSCF0145.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6lzje3es/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/6m4i04w4/DSCF0148.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6m4i04w4/)
The model was sprayed with a Halfords Copper, a Humbrol enamel brown, a Tamiya acrylic green as a base >>:-( <*<, Mix and match, thats my motto :-))
(http://s3.postimage.org/6oa89g3o/DSCF0149.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6oa89g3o/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/6of6vhl0/DSCF0199.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6of6vhl0/)
Then a combination of greens, metallics, browns etc. I find it best to eliminate brush marks, if you cannot easily see how a paint job is done then it is done right..
(http://s3.postimage.org/6pdx5ryc/71_F5_3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6pdx5ryc/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/6pnudux0/7166_3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6pnudux0/)
And then it was finished, and then I had to wave goodbye to it <:(
Still, now I have one all of my own and all it cost was a handful of magic beans and a full size R2D2 build!!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 18, 2011, 06:23:40 PM
This isn't it, but it was four years ago!!
(http://s2.postimage.org/e6t9ca78/B_Colour3mod.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e6t9ca78/)
And this isn't it, however, it developed out of this..
(http://s2.postimage.org/e6zvho6c/C_Colour3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e6zvho6c/)
And this is where it all started...
(http://s2.postimage.org/e7d3sg4k/A_First_Scetch.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e7d3sg4k/)
So, between the Engel Nautilus, the Streamliner and the Beast, I may have my work cut out {:-{
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on January 18, 2011, 08:50:15 PM
time to stop dreaming about your new sub and get on with building it then ! !
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 10, 2011, 07:12:32 PM
Its not been forgotten yet, I have just got sidetracked a bit :-)
(http://s4.postimage.org/h7pekoo4/IMG_0971.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/h7pekoo4/)
The one at the back is my unfinished Nautilus, an Engel model which has had lights fitted and a dusting of paint.
The one in the front is my unbuilt Nautilus. This has been mocked up in Depron Foam to give me a feel for how the model would look. Even the foam model has undergone some changes over the many many months that the project has been languishing. my latest plan is to abandon the model illustrated at the start of this thread, and instead, bulid this model AROUND an Engel Akula. This gives me a sturdy waterproof centre to the model, onto which I can add much embellishment :o
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 21, 2011, 06:20:50 PM
Still unfinished, however, now I have something to read!
(http://s3.postimage.org/wytrxvt0/Display_173.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wytrxvt0/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/wyx30ksk/Display_174.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wyx30ksk/)
The strange substance in the bridge windows is bubble wrap. I was using this at a SciFi fair earlier in the year, the bubble wrap picks up the light from a colour change wheel inside the model, resulting in a mysterious pulsating glow from within the model. Matched by the mysterious sound of a little geared motor going round and round and round...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Brooks on June 22, 2011, 12:58:50 AM
As a Nautilus Eskimo parka, err, aficionado, you perhaps already know that most of the English translations are riddled with errors. The original 1870's translation was rushed into print, and most of the following 20k books are based on the flawed first version. A more modern translation I can recommend is the one by Walter James Miller and Frederick Paul Walter, published by Naval Institute Press. The book also includes Verne-approved maps and engravings.

I hope you find time to make your Nautilus, both the Engels and your own design(s). I've made 2 Nautilus's, both dynamic free divers, one based on the book and one based on my own imagination :-).
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on August 18, 2011, 05:26:36 PM
Well, its time for an update to the slow, slow build of my unbuilt Nautilus. It is still at a design tweaking stage, as it has been for the last six years. The whole thing was kicked off by seeing an armoured ship model in an article in Marine Modelling way back when. Recently I rediscovered this ship that started it all, USS Katahadin, an armoured ram very similar to our HMS Polyphemus, and just as poorly conceived. So to set everyone else off on a similar path here she is..
(http://s3.postimage.org/20pfdnk3o/uss_katahdin.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/20pfdnk3o/)
'Unbuilt' has reached the 'G' version, which I am mostly happy with. The Streamliner that started the series of posts off has fallen by the wayside, and I have sold the sub it was going to be based on.
I am helping out with making a mold for a sailing ship at the moment and am paying close attention to what can and cannot be moulded. all useful when designing your own sub.
Last night using the mighty powerful Microsoft Paint (!) I mocked up a few tweaks to the design, neither of which can I decide between! However, here they are..

(http://s3.postimage.org/20si6nt6s/Copy_of_Nautilus_Cigar_Hull2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/20si6nt6s/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/20sost75w/Copy_of_Nautilus_Cigar_Hull3.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/20sost75w/)
The designs are intended to be fairly easy to produce as a plug or plugs, and that is always in my mind as I scrawl some outlandish addition to the design, before scrapping it six weeks later...
It will not be built next week but it will be built, someday, when the world is ready.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on November 03, 2011, 06:23:31 PM
I have been 'vandalizing' my Engel Nautilus lately. While spray painting a Tamiya Tiger Tank, I found I had residual colour left in my airbrush, rather than waste it, I turned around and tickled the Nautilus. Using mostly a green and red/brown colour, I sprayed around the panels and rivets to see what sort of effect I could come up with. After that, a quick going over with a scourer and some fine sand paper in a general downward direction added to the effect.
Bear in mind this effect is only on one side of the model and will be overcoated with the final scheme after I have riveted the bottom half of the hull. Good practice though..
(http://s3.postimage.org/f66iau9pr/sea_and_sky_001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/f66iau9pr/)

(http://s3.postimage.org/5zo7nk4hb/sea_and_sky_008.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5zo7nk4hb/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/9az368nqv/sea_and_sky_009.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9az368nqv/)

While we are here, just a couple of my other movie models, Red October and Orca, I'm a sucker for a movie model!

(http://s7.postimage.org/4h6lt9tfb/scifi_081.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4h6lt9tfb/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/80l6r468b/scifi_097.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/80l6r468b/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 13, 2011, 05:58:02 PM
Its back on the building slip, this last weekend was dedicated to the pursuit of rivets...but first the question of colous schemes. I have been spraying spare paint from the bottom of my airbrush for a while now. i currently have a rust red scheme on one side of the model and a lighter tan based scheme on the other. Both schemes are 'only temporary' and will be over sprayed at a later date.
(http://s12.postimage.org/a5hhs4iwp/IMG_4329.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/a5hhs4iwp/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/4hbnkndhd/IMG_4335.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4hbnkndhd/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/tr6f7qk8x/IMG_4327.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tr6f7qk8x/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/yvx5mung7/IMG_4334.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yvx5mung7/)
Virtually all the clear vacformed glazing parts have now been replaced with EMA hemispheres, the LED lighting unit has been replaced with 6v grain of wheat bulbs which are now fitted into the balls surrounding the salon windows on the side of the sub. The only glazing still original is that in the bridge, as I have lost the last two hemispheres ordered from EMA <:(
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 13, 2011, 06:00:49 PM
What made you go for filament lamps over LED's? Sounds like a backwards step to me- far more thirsty and don't like the cold unlike LED's which love it.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 13, 2011, 06:30:50 PM
As mentioned previously, I intend to use lead balls for the rivets ( great for simulating rivets, not so good if you want to go swimming ok2). These are being sorted via a modified pepper shaker, into fairly uniform sized balls. The hull is then drilled out to approximately half the depth of the ball, hopefully not penetrating into the watertight compartment a thousand or so times in the process.
For this, a jig has been made from 1.5mm aluminium plate, drilled with a number of rivet guide holes, based on the rivets already on the upper part of the model. ( as mentioned previously, the Engel Nautilus lacks any rivets on the lower hull, while being positively festooned with them on the hatch and upper hull. This caused me no end of trouble when I last weathered one of these. The upper hull weathering was fine, the lower hull weathering was fine, however, they did not look like they belonged together as the rivets became a feature of the weathering, and it all looked a bit %%.
(http://s7.postimage.org/z7swbr1h3/IMG_4339.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/z7swbr1h3/)

(http://s11.postimage.org/816s1wcz3/IMG_4340.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/816s1wcz3/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/71csv8oaz/IMG_4370.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/71csv8oaz/)

(http://s10.postimage.org/e6hl0xwh1/IMG_4363.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e6hl0xwh1/)

The pencil lines on the lower hull were a mirror image of the upper hull rivet lines, not strictly accurate but good enough for me. The drill bitt was fitted with a very sophisticated depth gauge, consisting of a brass collet and a bit of aluminium tube. The plywood test piece shows how I plan to fit the' rivets'. The suggestion of a light tap on the top of them seemed to spread them slightly in the hole and helped them grip.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 13, 2011, 06:35:05 PM
What made you go for filament lamps over LED's? Sounds like a backwards step to me- far more thirsty and don't like the cold unlike LED's which love it.

I dislike the 'blue' light given off by standard white LEDs, I know that LEDs are now available giving off a 'warm' white light which is somewhat more pleasing, but I have a bit more flexibility in how I use GOW bulbs. For example I could use a flicker effect on them, set right it should look interesting. Set wrong, Nemo may appear to want his sub rewired!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 13, 2011, 06:38:24 PM
The bulbs have been sunk into their fittings under a blob of hot glue, so should be insulated from the cold. if one blows, however, I am in trouble. I have already had to replace two when I sanded through their feed wires by accident. Chalk that up to being a 'div'!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 13, 2011, 06:40:03 PM
Fair enough. When white LED's first came out, the bluish-white end of the spectrum was all you could get. Thankfully you can now get warm white, and all shades in between. You can make LED's flicker too.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 13, 2011, 06:45:10 PM
Holes in my loverly submarine. Thank you Mr Engel for laying up such a nice thick hull :-))
(http://s11.postimage.org/xw407rctr/IMG_4371.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xw407rctr/)

(http://s11.postimage.org/etkmku1tb/IMG_4375.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/etkmku1tb/)

(http://s10.postimage.org/66q995yg5/IMG_4376.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/66q995yg5/)

yours truly starting to drill many, many 2.5mm dia, 1.5mm deep (very approx!) in the lower hull, using one of the two jigs.

(http://s9.postimage.org/p6ut6eu4r/IMG_4377.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/p6ut6eu4r/)

(http://s12.postimage.org/wr0rawbll/IMG_4379.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wr0rawbll/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/rwzjpv1fl/IMG_4380.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rwzjpv1fl/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/cgka8pxdj/IMG_4381.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cgka8pxdj/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 13, 2011, 06:48:10 PM
Fair enough. When white LED's first came out, the bluish-white end of the spectrum was all you could get. Thankfully you can now get warm white, and all shades in between. You can make LED's flicker too.

I do have flickering LEDs in my Magnetohydrodynamic drive units on my Typhoon, which I seem to have forgotten all about until now! Maybe its a homage to Walt Disney and the effects work of the 1950s, maybe I'm just a berk!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 13, 2011, 06:53:07 PM
Nautilus now has many little holes in it, one side only, back to work on side two then..
(http://s9.postimage.org/81qzqek97/IMG_4385.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/81qzqek97/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/vm1bnpg6v/IMG_4386.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vm1bnpg6v/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/te7ofkiyp/IMG_4390.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/te7ofkiyp/)
 Once the rivets are on I will need a new, touchy feely stand that will not rip of the rivets every time I place the model on top of it. It would also be good if it didn't fall over in the back of the car every time I negotiate a roundabout >:-o
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: batfish on December 13, 2011, 08:31:57 PM
Always loved this version, Not so sure on the price though.

Enjoying the build,
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on December 13, 2011, 08:38:46 PM
hope your enjoying the BORING  ? as for the model falling over inthe back of your car on roundabouts , slow down !
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 14, 2011, 09:06:47 AM
Have you ever tried driving round Portsmouth slowly, the only ones who can do that are the taxi drivers, and thats only because all the road signs are in a foreign language...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 19, 2011, 05:51:09 PM
Hydroplanes. These are overscale on the Engel model, for good reason. They aid trim and diving of the model. So I have chopped them down to a more scale profile :-))
The main reason being to box them in with part of the cutters not featured on the model. When I lift the model I seem to constantly knock the hydroplanes. This should help to protect them. First job was to put them through the bandsaw, next job was to glue the one I dropped on the floor back together, and the final job was to sand and fair in the new profiles.
(http://s10.postimage.org/gl82za879/IMG_4394.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gl82za879/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/vp8hs0xnl/IMG_4396.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vp8hs0xnl/)

(http://s12.postimage.org/gtna68rh5/IMG_4397.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gtna68rh5/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/4z6t0jdcx/IMG_4398.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4z6t0jdcx/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 19, 2011, 05:55:38 PM
The holes have now been drilled into the model, awaiting a calm frame of mind to bond in the lead shot. Could be a long wait...
(http://s8.postimage.org/r6ntgyo2p/IMG_4399.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/r6ntgyo2p/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/wvjxnwot3/IMG_4403.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wvjxnwot3/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/f6s6wad1z/IMG_4404.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/f6s6wad1z/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/rmowq16dz/IMG_4405.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rmowq16dz/)

Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 19, 2011, 06:01:39 PM
Squid-Giant-one off....
In preparation for the Shark Project, John has decided that what we need is a Giant Squid, just as a practice piece for playing with glass fibre and rubber molds. When he asked me how big this Giant Squid should be, I suggested 36", it is now likely to be somewhat more metric at 1 metre now. The beast is to include motorised tenticles, beak, eyes etc. Intended just for static display, the plan is to turn it on anytime someone walks past the model :}
(http://s9.postimage.org/92g7il10r/IMG_4392.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/92g7il10r/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 20, 2011, 10:36:20 AM
Won't reducing the hydroplanes adversely affect the boats handling?

Shrouding from the side rakers, plus the location of hydroplanes close to the c.g tend to make pitch control rather subtle. Some people just use ballast control to change the depth of the boat, although I think this might limit your speed.

The best handling Nautilae I've seen use a tilting prop with the hydroplanes fixed. The other alternative is to fit a pair of hydroplanes at the stern, either side of the rudder, although that is less stealthy.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 20, 2011, 01:09:01 PM
I have recently seen footage of the Nautilus you mention, control is fantastic although I wonder why he didn't pivot the prop left and right as well as up and down, which would have avoided the need for clear rudder extension. Probably an engineering feat too far.
I am expecting limited pitch control from the model which is not too much of a problem in our local lake, which is usually only 18" to 30" deep.
I did consider 'steampunking' the bejabers out of the model, including hydroplanes, but the look of horror on fellow members faces discouraged me from this action!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 20, 2011, 01:52:05 PM
That sounds like Bob Martin's latest CR66".

He avoided making the prop steerable for the sake of simplicity. Dave Merriman has done a couple of Nautilus models with fully gimballed props, so that it controls pitch and yaw.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: merriman on December 20, 2011, 05:49:20 PM
That sounds like Bob Martin's latest CR66".

He avoided making the prop steerable for the sake of simplicity. Dave Merriman has done a couple of Nautilus models with fully gimballed props, so that it controls pitch and yaw.


(http://forum.sub-driver.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2166&thumb=1&d=1261356133)  (http://forum.sub-driver.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2167&thumb=1&d=1261356133) (http://forum.sub-driver.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2168&thumb=1&d=1261356133) (http://forum.sub-driver.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2156&thumb=1&d=1261354515)

And watch this: http://forum.sub-driver.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2156&thumb=1&d=1261354515

Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 20, 2011, 07:35:50 PM
Not sure what that link Dave posted to was for- I got a blank screen at my end.

However, a couple of videos of Dave's conversion of a 31" model shows the gimballed prop, and performance of such.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku1DTcxuKak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alDs9Ufo1jg&feature=context&context=C3536734UDOEgsToPDskLo81I929TCzSH-xzfZ9EUw
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: merriman on December 20, 2011, 07:43:53 PM
Not sure what that link Dave posted to was for- I got a blank screen at my end.

However, a couple of videos of Dave's conversion of a 31" model shows the gimballed prop, and performance of such.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku1DTcxuKak

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alDs9Ufo1jg&feature=context&context=C3536734UDOEgsToPDskLo81I929TCzSH-xzfZ9EUw

Thanks, Andy. I goofed the address on that video.

David
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 20, 2011, 08:06:37 PM
I stand corrected, there is no such thing as an engineering feat too far. Good job. To see this on a small model such as this is impressive.
One question, with the size of the US of A, and the cars and trucks, and the houses and garages, why is it the land of the small submarine? I would expect to see 8' to 10' monsters on a regular basis. Instead the almost 'miniature' submarine has been perfected there instead..
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 20, 2011, 08:26:04 PM
They go for all sizes of boat over there. Perhaps the size of the commercial dive systems/wtc's has an impact? The larger cylinders tend to be around 3.5" diameter, which is considered quite petite here in the UK, where the average tends to be 4-5" diameter (OTW, Sheerline etc.).

1/96th scale seems to have been popular amongst the kit makers in the U.S for attack class and bomber (boomer) class boats alike. But here in the UK it's almost impossible to find a manufacturer building an attack class boat in 1/96th scale, they're nearly always in scales 1/72nd and larger, although the bomber boats are usually in 1/96th or 1/100th scale to keep them a manageable size.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 23, 2011, 01:08:24 PM
I think we are loyal to our home grown suppliers, over here the best models are bigger models, in the US, the best models are to the smaller scales. The Nautilus featured in the link above is far superior to the Engel model in detail and accuracy, as are all the Nautilus models available in the US. I'm kind of glad that the best models are 'over the pond', leaves the field clear for me and my Engel model over here in blighty!!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 23, 2011, 01:45:02 PM
I think that's a very valid point- people tend to favour home grown suppliers, and I think that's desirable.

Fortunately we're quite well served in this country, and I can't recall a time when there was so much choice available to someone entering this hobby.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 23, 2011, 02:27:14 PM
Raker mold time. I have been blessed to be given a sample box of a product called Silput 505. This is a two part rubber molding compound, with a working time of about 5 minutes. Its great for reproducing simple detail only. I have used it on RC Tank Cupolas, hatches, vents etc. Now it found its use on Nautilus. I need to reproduce the Rakers to allow me to protect the front hydroplane with a bit of scale detail. Out with the muck...
(http://s9.postimage.org/sp7tgofbv/IMG_4431.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/sp7tgofbv/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/ld99dftz7/IMG_4433.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ld99dftz7/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/c174me0lp/IMG_4434.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c174me0lp/)
My chosen material to produce the replicas was Standard Milliput, a two part, epoxy putty.

(http://s14.postimage.org/uaihufuz1/IMG_4435.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/uaihufuz1/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/kwde2nvfb/IMG_4436.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kwde2nvfb/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/4vrs31guv/IMG_4437.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4vrs31guv/)
The Milliput molds can have their setting time 'kicked' by the application of heat from a hot air gun, however, patience is a virtue..
These will now need final cleaning up while I work out how to fit them, AND make them removeable.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 23, 2011, 03:56:57 PM
I notice that Engel have recently improved their nautilus a bit. More accurate raker teeth, rivets on the underside, and a more accurate wheelhouse.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 24, 2011, 09:30:31 AM
Wonderful, I'm restoring an antique :}
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on December 24, 2011, 12:42:05 PM
Well it is supposed to be Victorian.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on December 31, 2011, 10:22:27 AM
Happy New Year, I'm making monsters at the moment, more sensible stuff to follow...
(http://s15.postimage.org/6r8jqueqf/IMG_4540.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6r8jqueqf/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 10, 2012, 05:54:20 PM
Sensible stuff still to follow... now for an update on the Giant Squid. Progress is rapid, with most parts reaching the molding stage over the next week.
(http://s8.postimage.org/3so3twcsh/squid_001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3so3twcsh/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/52yf2t7zr/squid_003.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/52yf2t7zr/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/8e4p2aai5/squid_005.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8e4p2aai5/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/n0wgsgudx/squid_007.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/n0wgsgudx/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/6h3djyuhh/squid_008.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6h3djyuhh/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/c0q1ew4ox/squid_012.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c0q1ew4ox/)

The main body parts will be glass fibre while the tail ( now removed from the after body ) and tenticles will be molded in Polyurethane Rubber or Silicone Rubber, depending how our initial molds go.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 10, 2012, 06:01:27 PM
I have been painting parts of a thirty year old Mixing Desk gloss black over the last couple of days, and as is now tradition, I emptied the contents of the airbrush over the Nautilus. This time applying the gloss black to all currently highlighted edges, rivet detail and recesses. The effect is pretty good and follows a light application of gold 'Rub-n-Buff' on to cutting blades and hatch covers.
The photos show the model in natural light, illuminated by camera flash and by a strip light. Useful, but not the final scheme..
(http://s8.postimage.org/welro10ox/squid_016.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/welro10ox/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/vsek790ox/squid_014.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vsek790ox/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/hmclh8tyb/squid_015.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hmclh8tyb/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/glw0mh43b/squid_019.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/glw0mh43b/)

(http://s11.postimage.org/y6a555cof/squid_020.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/y6a555cof/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: bassplayer1 on January 10, 2012, 10:47:44 PM
Nice work!!! Really nice!!! :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on January 10, 2012, 11:29:36 PM
If you pipe air through the tenticles, will they flail around on the water?

 :}
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 12, 2012, 09:44:07 AM
If you did that to anyone, they would flail around in the water!
We are using bent rods inset inside the tenticles, inside silicone tube, then rotating the whole lot with a geared motor. This should look random, hopefully..
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 13, 2012, 05:47:44 PM
Yesterday was the day to cut out the protective outer Raker parts which cover the now smaller hydroplanes. My chosen material was 3/16" Tufnol sheet. Nasty, smelly, but high strength stuff. Bandsawed and sanded to about the right size.
(http://s16.postimage.org/4o2t82lm9/IMG_4630.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4o2t82lm9/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/rp5ixtxbf/IMG_4633.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rp5ixtxbf/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/lzblj26sd/IMG_4638.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lzblj26sd/)
The Milliput cutters/Rakers are now finished and awaiting trimming also. I intend to cut into the existing material in the model and screw the new Tufnol parts into place. The exact details I have yet to work out!

(http://s7.postimage.org/5rk311vdz/IMG_4634.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5rk311vdz/)
 I have also fabricated from thinner, laminated Tufnol the support bar for the prop ring that has been missing since the day I aquired the model. It just awaits final trimming and pinning to the model.

(http://s16.postimage.org/6me2jt3ht/IMG_4639.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6me2jt3ht/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/gicb0gyef/IMG_4644.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gicb0gyef/)
The final two images show the different paint schemes port and starboard. Port side is my prefered scheme while Starboard is a typical 'rust' scheme. Would a troubled, mad scientist design a submarine that harnesses the power of the Sun/Sea and then make it out of something that rusts? Methinks not!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 14, 2012, 01:22:04 PM
Whoops, left the water on down the clubhouse :embarrassed:
(http://s14.postimage.org/vsdjtg8od/IMG_4645a.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vsdjtg8od/)
I was bored, waiting for chicken to cook...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 16, 2012, 06:05:26 PM
Sunday spent molding. Me and Mark on fibreglass, me and John on rubber bits.
(http://s9.postimage.org/j86firrxn/IMG_4650.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j86firrxn/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/jm7ridc17/IMG_4651.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jm7ridc17/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/jnhpbsduz/IMG_4652.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jnhpbsduz/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/imhgmnwvf/IMG_4653.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/imhgmnwvf/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/56ufx7odn/IMG_4659.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/56ufx7odn/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/v3o49ts17/IMG_4661.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/v3o49ts17/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/uff9qvtbf/IMG_4662.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/uff9qvtbf/)
Side one completed...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 16, 2012, 06:08:49 PM
Rubber bits, a mixture of silicone mold and polyurethane rubber squidly bits!
(http://s16.postimage.org/tgi1q1pup/IMG_4646.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tgi1q1pup/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/gqdtcyhwh/IMG_4647.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gqdtcyhwh/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/j8zidn3mp/IMG_4648.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j8zidn3mp/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/tkbv6avc1/IMG_4649.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tkbv6avc1/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/lg3r1k8wx/IMG_4654.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lg3r1k8wx/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/c9lgea3oh/IMG_4657.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c9lgea3oh/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/xjv4j3507/IMG_4658.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xjv4j3507/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/xxwgiop3r/IMG_4663.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xxwgiop3r/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/rlhb8um1j/IMG_4664.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rlhb8um1j/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/eilopkvtj/IMG_4665.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/eilopkvtj/)
Tentacles coming out of the molds tonight...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 16, 2012, 06:11:18 PM

(http://s9.postimage.org/oh61udzqj/IMG_4660.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/oh61udzqj/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on January 16, 2012, 07:31:23 PM
Nice work on that squid. What size is it, I think you could sell these you know if you were willing to mould a few.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 17, 2012, 09:16:31 AM
The subject has come up, my idea was to jump on the mold when finished, I may well be over ruled on that one!
(http://s15.postimage.org/6pgoxxnhj/IMG_4666.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6pgoxxnhj/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/hqgfgp547/IMG_4667.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hqgfgp547/)

We would have to perfect non-stick tentacles first,'They Grip, They Stick, They Haven't Cured Properly!!'
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on January 17, 2012, 07:57:47 PM
at least if you were able to sell a squid or three it would help with the costs incured in your project !
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 25, 2012, 09:40:07 AM
We are becoming squid molding experts we are :-))
(http://s16.postimage.org/txoaso981/squidly_diddly_002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/txoaso981/)
This last couple of weeks we have learned not to de-mold the PU rubber to quickly, cos it stays sticky. Looks like it needs a period denied of oxygen to cure properly. We have learned that a 2oz lay up is enough for a small mold in fibreglass. That you can use PU rubber pigment in polyester gelcoat without ruining everything. That the PU rubber tin really needs stirring up before use, cos there is a white 'sediment, in the last third of the tin which has made the latest molds look like plasticene. We can use tinned copper wire in the tentacles to pose them. You cannot 'paint PU rubber over an already pre-molded tail, cos it runs and it stays sticky ( see above ). Every mold is hit or miss as far as getting rid of all the air bubbles, but we can use the excuse that a) its a 'mutant squid' and b) its been attacked by a giant shark...anyway, the photos :-)
(http://s18.postimage.org/yu4qzb35x/squidly_diddly_003.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yu4qzb35x/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/mxd4eu18l/squidly_diddly_005.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mxd4eu18l/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/ae4ynsvwz/squidly_diddly_006.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ae4ynsvwz/)

(http://s10.postimage.org/6hglv3nlx/squidly_diddly_008.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6hglv3nlx/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/77f0hx0ur/squidly_diddly_010.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/77f0hx0ur/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/7smklccrh/squidly_diddly_012.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7smklccrh/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/9q6q603ap/squidly_diddly_015.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9q6q603ap/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/rk287amcx/squidly_diddly_016.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rk287amcx/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 25, 2012, 09:48:25 AM
Back to the main topic, Nautilus. Last night I proceeded to hack off more of the original model, now I know how I will hold on the Rakers ok2. Photos to follow...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 31, 2012, 06:45:09 PM
The Rakers etc are going to fit onto 1.5mm Stainless steel rods, poking out from the gelcoat moldings on the side of the model. The Tufnol Rakers will be drilled to accept these Stainless parts and the whole lot will be expertly filed to fit. I am confident in this as I did it last week...
(http://s7.postimage.org/galgcg7rb/IMG_4715.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/galgcg7rb/)

(http://s11.postimage.org/tw02nff0f/IMG_4718.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tw02nff0f/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/ul5oc9yx3/IMG_4720.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ul5oc9yx3/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/qz91r47ar/IMG_4721.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qz91r47ar/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/9c0fkec59/IMG_4723.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9c0fkec59/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/54l9mdan9/IMG_4724.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/54l9mdan9/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/4qvf34hzv/IMG_4725.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4qvf34hzv/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/u4pimyhhj/IMG_4726.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/u4pimyhhj/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/jbi0eg07b/IMG_4733.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jbi0eg07b/)

The first job was to drill the holes in the Tufnol, this I did by marking, in pencil, the angle through the Tufnol, then laying the item on a flat surface, using the flat surface in front of the job to visually ensure my drill was parallel with that flat surface. Periodically checking, by looking down the drill bitt, that I was following the pencil line.
Next, a Stainless Steel right angled bit was fabricated, the Tufnol offered up to the model, and the first pilot hole drilled. The Stainless was fitted into the hole in the Tufnol and the sub, pinning the job in place, allowing me to drill the second hole with ease.
Two lengths of Stainless Steel were knocked into place, following a bit of Cyano application, left to dry and then test fitted. Nice....except, one must be jolly careful when removing the Rakers, as pulling them off unevenly results in the cracking sound of Gelcoat fracturing O0. Only happened on one pin out of eight.
The final picture shows the, now fitted prop ring support, also from Tufnol.
The Milliput Cutters still need epoxying into position and filling, job for another day.
Three of the Hydroplanes are now showing up as crooked, the good news is that one of the support tubes for these dropped out recently (complain to the previous owner!), so they are all coming out to be re-bonded, straight this time :-)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 02, 2012, 04:00:59 PM
Time for a new stand for the model, so for a bit of inspiration, a trip to the Eastney Beam Engine House. Open on the last Saturday and Sunday of the month, and its free, and its warm!
So for a bit of Steampunk reference....
(http://s13.postimage.org/y28ni0b9v/Steampunk_001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/y28ni0b9v/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/44y6ialgx/Steampunk_002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/44y6ialgx/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/965kjnsxd/Steampunk_004.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/965kjnsxd/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/7f3pfu0xn/Steampunk_005.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7f3pfu0xn/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/r05nyp1dd/Steampunk_006.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/r05nyp1dd/)

(http://s10.postimage.org/d2qkmnzk5/Steampunk_007.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/d2qkmnzk5/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/s1x0ew9q3/Steampunk_008.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/s1x0ew9q3/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/wbxw59anb/Steampunk_009.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wbxw59anb/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/vqwt8lwd9/Steampunk_010.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vqwt8lwd9/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/mny87cjzb/Steampunk_012.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mny87cjzb/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/su49ru3af/Steampunk_013.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/su49ru3af/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/gnjdcm7u9/Steampunk_014.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gnjdcm7u9/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/lq5al56i9/Steampunk_015.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lq5al56i9/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/wcvffkn5x/Steampunk_016.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wcvffkn5x/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/5a6xvn9xv/Steampunk_017.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5a6xvn9xv/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 02, 2012, 04:05:33 PM
And then B&Q withdraw all their plywood from sale! Probably a good thing ;)
Early lighting test for Nautilus using LED Strip.
(http://s13.postimage.org/q5xtkmvir/Steampunk_021.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/q5xtkmvir/)
I will be using a Maplins RGB Lighting Controller to provide three channels of variable lighting effect, not strictly movie accurate, but it should look cool. Hopefully there will be slightly less light bleed out of every hole in the model when rigged up properly.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on February 02, 2012, 05:25:58 PM
The CR Nautilus stand looked like it was inspired by the work of Gustave Eiffel- I guess that's the connection with Jules Verne covered .

But with the quintessential Nemo being as English as tea and scones, perhaps you could look at some of our own eminent Victorian engineers, with structures like Brunel's Royal Albert Bridge or Stephenson's High Level Bridge.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: barryfoote on February 02, 2012, 05:42:23 PM
This is a stunning build... :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 02, 2012, 05:43:08 PM
.

But with the quintessential Nemo being as English as tea and scones, perhaps you could look at some of our own eminent Victorian engineers, with structures like Brunel's Royal Albert Bridge or Stephenson's High Level Bridge.

Was he English, I feel it is left unexplained in Disneys movie, with only quotes refering to "that evil nation" being less than a clue. I feel that the evil nation in question could, in fact be dear old Blighty, with munitions mining, exported to the world, referred to. The US of A was probably pre-occupied in the 1860s, and beyond that, I dont know. Maybe its time I read the book, not just the interesting bits :}
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 02, 2012, 05:45:51 PM
This is a stunning build... :-))

Cheers, I hope its just enough 'off kilter' to maintain the interest. Looks like this will be the first of my subs to hit the water, thats when it separates the men from the boys...I must start practicing my excuses, or buying waders....
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on February 02, 2012, 06:39:15 PM
I've read the book, trust me the film is very different.

The English are always the grassholes in Hollywood, you should know that!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 17, 2012, 01:41:44 PM
Intense Concentration...
(http://s15.postimage.org/xaie2045z/Photo0133.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xaie2045z/)
Evil Looking ( squid looks quite nasty too!)...

(http://s16.postimage.org/a2m804n4x/Photo0134.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/a2m804n4x/)
Stupid Looking ( Squid too! )...

(http://s15.postimage.org/c4t6l5iqf/Photo0137.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c4t6l5iqf/)

Anyway, tentacles cut into the head and test fitted yesterday, current debate is how to fix them, as four will be mobile and four will be used to hang the beast off of Nautilus. Silicone will not bond the PU rubber, tried that. My preferred option would be to tack them in with cyano and then fill the tentacle end of the head to about 20mm depth with more PU rubber, we will see..

(http://s13.postimage.org/wvjxnxc03/Photo0141.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wvjxnxc03/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/6brclsbgj/Photo0142.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6brclsbgj/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/f824pq22r/Photo0143.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/f824pq22r/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/5c5n3tloj/Photo0144.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5c5n3tloj/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/rclzkg4cj/Photo0145.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rclzkg4cj/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/g1jbw2xhf/Photo0146.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/g1jbw2xhf/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: ben hall on February 18, 2012, 06:28:18 PM
i killed  a squid with a harpoon in spain    :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

i was aiming for a fish but there was a squid behind the fish........   you know what they say.........

ben swims warily down the street,
With the brim pulled way down low
Ain't no sound but the sound of his flippers,
 harpoons  ready to go

Are you ready,
Are you ready for this
Are you hanging on the edge of your sub
Out of the sub the arrows rip
To the sound of the beat


Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust

How do you think I'm going to get along,
Without you, when you're gone
You took me for everything that I had,
And kicked me out on my own

Are you happy, are you satisfied
How long can you stand the heat
Out of the hatch the arrows rip
To the sound of the beat



Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
There are plenty of ways you can hurt a squid
And bring it to the ground
You can beat it
You can cheat it
You can treat it bad and leave it
When it's down
But I'm ready, yes I'm ready for you
I'm swimming with my own two flippers
Out of the hatch the arrows rip
Repeating the sound of the beat

dududu mamamamama  dududu mamamamama   oh the song ended
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 20, 2012, 11:13:29 AM
Despite that, the show must go on...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 11, 2012, 06:16:28 PM
One thousand one hundred rivets later and I am still as sane as before.."               -insert insult here-                        "
Photos to follow...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on April 11, 2012, 07:38:46 PM
thats riveting ! !
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 12, 2012, 05:56:36 PM

(http://s15.postimage.org/x7wec79fr/IMG_5852.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/x7wec79fr/)
Nautilus shown 'pre-rivets' at our recent show at Action Stations in Portsmouth, notice the mysterious green light emanating from all the empty rivet holes..

(http://s12.postimage.org/m0ags4lmx/IMG_5992.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/m0ags4lmx/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/4xpdmalv7/IMG_5993.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4xpdmalv7/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/d9hgcl21p/IMG_5994.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/d9hgcl21p/)
My rivets are mixed lead shot, this is pre-washed in acetone to de-grease everything, then to the patented rivet sizing tool ( pepper pot with big holes drilled in it! ), this sorts out the oversize from the more acceptable rivet sized shot. Cup of tea to keep me sane while applying, 30 minute Z-Poxy epoxy, thats 30 minutes working time and cured in 2 hours, Cyano Gel ( didn't use this in the end ), Cocktail stick for mixing and dripping glue into the pre drilled holes, tweezers for the placing of, and finally a hot air gun for the final little touch..

(http://s11.postimage.org/3veyug2e7/IMG_5995.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3veyug2e7/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/anfq0vezh/IMG_5996.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/anfq0vezh/)
A long run of epoxy spots can be applied due to the longer curing time of the thirty minute epoxy, however, you notice when it reaches a 'pre-gelling' stage, at which it is still workable but now you need to get a move on! The rivets are placed on top of the epoxy, stopping them running off the model and on to the floor, then pressed home with the tweezers. The resulting bulge of epoxy is then sorted out with a quick blast from a hot air gun. This reduces the epoxy to a bit more of a liquid state, this then flows around the rivet in a satisfying manner while also encouraging the epoxy to cure that bit quicker.

(http://s15.postimage.org/clq29ujk7/IMG_5999.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/clq29ujk7/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/93e2dgio7/IMG_6003.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/93e2dgio7/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/yfy83vvrx/IMG_6006.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yfy83vvrx/)
Slight bodge up when I seem to have drilled the holes in the wrong place, one side of the model only, how? Anybodies guess, but I think its hanging round our club members too long!

(http://s10.postimage.org/74knsu2yd/IMG_6007.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/74knsu2yd/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/4vs0cu9xt/IMG_6016.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4vs0cu9xt/)
 Finally the lighting strip illuminating the bottom of the model, apparently this stuff is waterproof! Anybody tried it yet?
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Davy1 on April 14, 2012, 10:56:16 AM
Lovely rivets and the lighting strip is very impressive. I see it is from Maplins. Waterproof or rainproof? I suggest a dunk test.

David
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on April 14, 2012, 12:22:41 PM
Its actually from Component Shop, comes with a JR/Futaba style plug on the end and cost about 8 for 500mm length, bit cheaper than the Maplins alternative. Also available from J Perkins, meaning I can get it to sell to you!!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 06:45:31 PM
I may not have finished this Nautilus, however, I am still working out details for the next one. there are one or two images on here already of the beast, however i just thought i would show the Depron mockup and some other sketch ideas of MY Nautilus, coming soon ( not that soon ) to a lake near you...
(http://s8.postimage.org/rpfrqp6ap/I_Nautilus_Vulcania4.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/rpfrqp6ap/)
More time building and less time on the PC painting, would have resulted in me having a plug, mold and model by now, ahh well..

(http://s17.postimage.org/y2rptzmij/IMG_8026.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/y2rptzmij/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/6goy9b35n/IMG_8027.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6goy9b35n/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/n5qe57zqz/IMG_8032.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/n5qe57zqz/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/6j8tw56t7/IMG_8033.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6j8tw56t7/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/n3y4gd1gl/IMG_8031.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/n3y4gd1gl/)
The Depron foam mockup was built over about ten days, transferring the original design straight on to the foam, cutting and supergluing the whole thing together. When I first looked at this little 3D mock-up, i decided to do some modifications to the design, as what looked good on paper, didn't look good as a model.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 06:55:48 PM

(http://s18.postimage.org/3xz61s61x/IMG_8037a.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3xz61s61x/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/3z93v77vp/IMG_8037b.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3z93v77vp/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/y57i9zesl/IMG_8045.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/y57i9zesl/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/6j4qpavfp/IMG_8047.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6j4qpavfp/)

(http://s12.postimage.org/qr2kshjcp/IMG_8038c.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qr2kshjcp/)

(http://s12.postimage.org/izlutxf7d/IMG_8050.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/izlutxf7d/)
The design will be built around the submarines cigar shaped pressure hull, either round in cross section, or six, seven or eight sided like Goffs Disney version. On top of this will go the upper casing with cutters, an exagerated, french style ram bow, an upper deck promenade aft of the bridge structure, the ships boat stored under that in an aft facing boathouse. The 'skirt' was inspired by American Civil War Rams, and has featured on every design from 'A' through to 'G', this one. This bit will have the ornate victorian/steampunk style ironwork supporting it, plus lighting effects either under it or through the core of the skirt. Twin keels will alow the model to sit on the ground/bottom of the ocean without falling over.
The six exhaust pipes, well, water jets, CO2 jets, flames, breather pipes.....
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 05, 2012, 07:02:26 PM

(http://s14.postimage.org/j3fg06ha5/Nautilus_Cigar_Hull8.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j3fg06ha5/)
Diving bell? Well if Michael Caine can have diving bells on his Nautilus, why can't I?
Anyway, all this will someday come to pass...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on May 05, 2012, 08:38:56 PM
Looks good, I like that. Not too sure how the 'skirt' will pan out hydrodynamically, may cause some handling issues

I think you might want a bit more rudder area if you want it to turn though.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 07, 2012, 04:04:59 PM
Looks good, I like that. Not too sure how the 'skirt' will pan out hydrodynamically, may cause some handling issues

I think you might want a bit more rudder area if you want it to turn though.


Its likely to be a bit of a 'dog' along with the vertical struts supporting it. However, it will be spending over 99% of its life out of the water, being looked at, so I think I will cope with any little problems!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on May 08, 2012, 10:10:10 PM
(http://s14.postimage.org/j3fg06ha5/Nautilus_Cigar_Hull8.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j3fg06ha5/)
Diving bell? Well if Michael Caine can have diving bells on his Nautilus, why can't I?
Anyway, all this will someday come to pass...

that guys nautilas is awsome  i dare say a lot cooler than yours still would rather have your nautilas than no nautilas   and im pretty sure im spelling nautilas wrong  :} :}
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: giovanni on May 08, 2012, 10:33:39 PM
I saw this near Mare Island, California.
It was parked in a gas station during the refueling of the tow vehicle.
I ran as fast as I could, out of the Starbucks to get a photo as they were leaving.

(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/sunworksco/a149df01.jpg)

(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/sunworksco/10a8a3e3.jpg)



Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 09, 2012, 09:24:58 AM
And I just bought a Ford........... {:-{
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: salmon on May 09, 2012, 04:29:17 PM
Sub-standard



(forgive me)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 09, 2012, 05:47:55 PM

Its been washed...surely that makes it more valuable?

I can see me with one of these, like a U-Boat commander, with my head sticking out the top, rolling uncontrollably into the nearest ditch...Dive, Dive, Dive :}
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on May 09, 2012, 08:57:46 PM
and i would be paying for a lift  {-) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on May 09, 2012, 09:33:05 PM
we can always rod your car for you , make it look like a nautilus ?
jon
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on May 09, 2012, 09:35:27 PM
Yes, strip the paint off it and leave it near the sea, soon look like a rusty old tub! :)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 16, 2012, 07:20:23 PM
Time for a new stand. The old one would have knocked off my newly applied rivets. the new one needs to support the boat, while not touching it in too many places, also the old stand would fall over in the car alot, so wider as well :-))
(http://s17.postimage.org/984lcpf0r/glue_004.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/984lcpf0r/)
Fairly standard design, not to outlandish?
I then proceeded to primer it, followed by spray painting with a mix of Humbrol bronze, a metallic steel primer from a new gaming company, and Chocolate Brown from B&Q. This needed ageing...

(http://s13.postimage.org/w9eqz9bir/glue_005.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/w9eqz9bir/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/cg2n6jy4z/glue_006.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cg2n6jy4z/)

(http://s12.postimage.org/bxf6zqo3d/glue_007.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bxf6zqo3d/)
Using a water based acrylic Matchpot from somewhere, bought for the last Nautilus I painted as well as the bottom of HMS Dolphin. this is roughly stippled on, into all the nooks and crannies, wiped out and off with a dry cloth. dont use a damp cloth as I did. you end up chasing Aqua blue water droplets off the paintwork, they dry quickly, and then they are a "xxxxx" to get off!
The end result puts me in mind of the God Talos from the film Jason and the Argonauts, well his foot anyway!

(http://s15.postimage.org/9o99ln2ef/glue_008.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9o99ln2ef/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/nj7k43wtj/glue_009.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nj7k43wtj/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: hollowhornbear on May 16, 2012, 07:50:38 PM
just don't unscrew anything and let the sand out !! {-) {-)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on May 28, 2012, 05:39:48 PM
Submarine mated with new stand...KILROY WOZ ERE!
(http://s14.postimage.org/gex3gslcd/IMG_6642.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gex3gslcd/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/cjtpe826l/IMG_6644.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cjtpe826l/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/ff6sl366l/IMG_6645.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ff6sl366l/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on May 28, 2012, 08:29:02 PM
Looking good.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: steve pickstock on June 01, 2012, 03:14:55 PM
I saw this near Mare Island, California.
It was parked in a gas station during the refueling of the tow vehicle.
I ran as fast as I could, out of the Starbucks to get a photo as they were leaving.

(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/sunworksco/a149df01.jpg)

(http://i913.photobucket.com/albums/ac335/sunworksco/10a8a3e3.jpg)





http://fivetoncrane.org/projects/the-nautilus
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 01, 2012, 03:32:47 PM
Very nice, pity it wont fit in my garage!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on June 07, 2012, 06:32:57 PM
Time to hit the bottle....
(http://s17.postimage.org/gf4wmele3/IMG_7000.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gf4wmele3/)
Too late, better get back on the sub instead. Its time for little bits of underside detail. Starting with the corkscrew looking device.

(http://s17.postimage.org/x4axw27d7/IMG_7006.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/x4axw27d7/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/6x9r03p3f/IMG_7009.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6x9r03p3f/)
I have used a mixture of corkscrew, tufnol, billing porthole and brass bit, plus chopped up tile spacers for widgets. I have also superglued it in place, so I may well back this up with a fillet of epoxy to avoid any dropping off issues.
(http://s15.postimage.org/4va6olozb/IMG_7001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4va6olozb/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/5yub0k9mf/IMG_7004.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5yub0k9mf/)
I have also managed to accidentally kick the model, which fractured the gelcoat around my stainless pins, just in front of the foreward hydroplane. Now suitably epoxied in place.

(http://s15.postimage.org/ho2w29pyv/IMG_7002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ho2w29pyv/)
Two shiney new Aeronaut cleats to replace the missing plastic one fitted originally.

(http://s9.postimage.org/l5vva7zt7/IMG_7003.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l5vva7zt7/)
This is going to bug me. The replacement tufnol support for the prop ring is slightly shorter than the aluminium original, it would be on the top where I can see it. however, I have a plan...

(http://s14.postimage.org/opm4ghjtp/IMG_7007.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/opm4ghjtp/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/etl1gue1p/IMG_7008.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/etl1gue1p/)
Underside widgets, a combination of square section styrene and resin cast 'things' plus some brass belaying pins drilled in, to convert sea water into energy, or some other fiendishly clever thing :}
I was hoping to get the old bucket presentable for Alfold this coming weekend, not looking likely, may still bring it though...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: giovanni on July 14, 2012, 07:00:00 AM
Very clever screw!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on July 19, 2012, 05:27:29 PM
Cheers, no kitchen implement is safe while I am building a model :-))
Temporarily side tracked onto a boat that looks like a submarine, even has a pair of Whitehead torpedoes on deck.
(http://s10.postimage.org/bix3ct7yt/IMG_4227.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bix3ct7yt/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/8uy4vx4fr/IMG_4279.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8uy4vx4fr/)
I am resisting the urge to let the latent Steampunk in me, out while detailing this beast :}
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: essex2visuvesi on July 20, 2012, 05:58:39 AM
Cheers, no kitchen implement is safe while I am building a model :-))
Temporarily side tracked onto a boat that looks like a submarine, even has a pair of Whitehead torpedoes on deck.
(http://s10.postimage.org/bix3ct7yt/IMG_4227.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bix3ct7yt/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/8uy4vx4fr/IMG_4279.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8uy4vx4fr/)
I am resisting the urge to let the latent Steampunk in me, out while detailing this beast :}


That sure is one menacing looking boat.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Davy1 on July 20, 2012, 08:46:14 AM
What is the boat??  Looks very interesting!

David
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on July 20, 2012, 09:25:00 AM
It is loosely (very) based on German built, Ottoman Navy Steam Torpedo boats from the 1890s, and was originally built to feature in our manned battleship display.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Davy1 on July 20, 2012, 11:20:38 AM
Very interesting. She looks so much like the "Turkish" Nordenfelt submarine.

Thanks,

David
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on July 20, 2012, 11:56:02 AM
I am only influenced by the best! Nordenfelt 4 barrel gun now fitted on the rear deck. I enjoyed building that, however, if one more person praises my 'Gatling Gun'..... >>:-(
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unicorn on July 20, 2012, 04:02:08 PM
I am only influenced by the best! Nordenfelt 4 barrel gun now fitted on the rear deck. I enjoyed building that, however, if one more person praises my 'Gatling Gun'..... >>:-(

                          " THEY WILL BE THE FIRST "

                                                                        %) %) %) %) %) %) %) %) %) %) %)"
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on July 20, 2012, 04:26:07 PM
 %%


 >:-o
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on July 20, 2012, 11:00:38 PM
thats a threat alan lets not have any of that  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: wullie/mk2 on July 20, 2012, 11:43:36 PM
be different , stand out from the crowd , it would make a change to see something a little out of the ordinary at the lake !
I thought the sole purpose of submarines, in whatever form they take,...was...not to be seen, O0
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on July 21, 2012, 09:14:21 AM
I thought the sole purpose of submarines, in whatever form they take,...was...not to be seen, O0
Thats why mine hide at home!!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 14, 2012, 12:17:35 PM
Anyone got clear images of a Darnell/Models By Design U-Class sub out of the water? I have been trying to find some good shots of the model of P35, the Mediteranean Blue model owned by an AMS member but have only found some general shots of the AMS stand at Brighton.
I am looking for a donor hull for the next Nautilus, the 'unbuilt' one. I have looked at the OTW Surcouf, but at 87" long, it is too big for my little hovell. I have just squeezed a 1/72 scale Type 45 in at 84" and that was a struggle. That put me off the 'big' option! 

 Looking at the U Class it has features I am looking for to overlay Nautilus on to it, and its shorter :-)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: U-33 on September 14, 2012, 12:40:41 PM
Aha...have a look at the AMS forum, under 'pictures of your boats'...there's plenty of the boat you're looking for on there. It's Dave Wright's, by the way.


Rich
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 14, 2012, 12:53:36 PM
Cheers, will do...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on September 14, 2012, 01:34:52 PM

(http://s13.postimage.org/px17qxaab/DSCN1262.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/px17qxaab/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 14, 2012, 01:36:50 PM
Thats the beast, no saddle tanks, not too much upper casing and a set of beautiful curves aft...I think I'm in love :}
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on September 14, 2012, 05:24:04 PM
Couple more-

(http://s16.postimage.org/5jgyyel9t/DSCN1047.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5jgyyel9t/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/v3j94u6nl/DSCN1092.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/v3j94u6nl/)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 14, 2012, 05:57:45 PM
I can do things with that, may involve a whole tub of filler to reshape the bow though. Out with the pen, pencil and PC tonight for a bit of sketching.
Cheers..
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on September 14, 2012, 06:30:21 PM
That sounds like a fairly major reconstruction. Unless you can pick-up an old hull cheap, would it not make more sense to produce maybe a lost foam style hull?
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 17, 2012, 12:07:36 PM
As the design has evolved I have considered various construction methods. A full blown fibreglass mold and hull would be the best option, however, it would also be the most expensive. Also, I might be tempted to sell a couple to recoup my costs. The model would be slightly less unique then. Subs are probably the most difficult things to mold as well, so thats out.
An all wood option would be the most enjoyable thing to build, it would then require much sealing inside and out. Not done right it would start to suffer over the years, thats a no.
The lost foam option is a bit too messy for my workspace, firstly the foam carving resulting in bits of blue foam static clinging to everything, sticky mess being flushed out of the model somewhere, and finally much filling and sanding to obtain the end finish, yuk, itchy too.
A big static model has crossed my mind more than once, it would spend substantially less than 1% of its life in the water, and would look great at static shows, bit of a cop out though, so no.
The donor hull option, though not the cheapest, would save a large amount of time in the build. the extra detailing such as armoured bridge, upper casing etc, could be built as a reverse mold, i.e. I make all the details in 'negative', lay on the glass fibre, then remove the panels etc and offer them up to the model. thats how I am thinking at the moment. Also over the last ten years I seem to have been doing a lot of donor hull modifications, so its not new to me. The most involved being a hangar structure, built in reverse, to sit on a pre-existing merchant ship hull, and that worked and fit in all the right paces..escort carrier on the quick!
I am still open to suggestions though, so keep em coming...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 18, 2012, 05:54:38 PM
One quick session later...
(http://s11.postimage.org/kemp21wdr/A_B_Nautilus.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kemp21wdr/)
It looks like I can fit a WWII U-Class submarine inside my Nautilus with very few design tweaks :-)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on October 09, 2012, 05:52:55 PM
Many long sessions later....
(http://s9.postimage.org/5kt0u9yjf/A_B_Nautilusb.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5kt0u9yjf/)
I have been deeply interested in the CAD discussions going on hereabouts, and would like to say I will be doing the final design work on Nautilus II using cardboard :-)). This makes me a bit of a heathen, but its how I works. Mind you, I have just spent two weeks on and off, tweaking previous images to match my foam mock up, using 't 'puter. ( The Computer... :-))).
The plan now is to await purchase of my donor hull, while completing Nautilus I, then out with the cardboard and parcel tape to mock up at full size, around said hull.
This 'caveman' technology has served me well in the past, and will do again in my retro-future...long live Neo- Victorianism. Now pass me the parcel tape :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: bikerdude999 on October 09, 2012, 06:33:39 PM
Can't beat the card mock-up, CAD is clever and handy for things but you can't beat having something physical to look at and tweak!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 05, 2013, 07:07:22 PM
The 'new' Nautilus donor hull has arrived, thanks to Andy at Models by Design, little does he know what I have in store for it!
Meanwhile 'old' Nautilus is close to completion so time for the paint job. This is an abridged version of the last three days!!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 05, 2013, 07:10:28 PM
Many coats of dissimilar acrylic paint later and it looks 'amazing' {:-{
This, however is just the base coat..
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 05, 2013, 07:12:59 PM
Then you do this...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 05, 2013, 07:14:13 PM
Prop and clear bit next...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 05, 2013, 07:19:12 PM
And that sums up about 10 hours of work and looks like this...
I shall go into more detail in the 'weathering a submarine' page next week.http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38072.0
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Martin [Admin] on February 05, 2013, 08:29:07 PM
Love that Prop!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: thegrimreaper on February 06, 2013, 11:21:31 AM
Fantastic colour and great weathering looks realy nice
 
Mark.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 06, 2013, 01:40:03 PM
Thank you both. The prop is a resin one, originally painted with a brass colour from a rattle can. I used Rub-n-Buff antique gold on it, got covered in the stuff and probably got carried away buffing it. The corrosion effect was simply a match pot of pale blue emulsion brushed into all the nooks and crannies, then removed with a dry cloth almost immediately. Seems to work.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on February 14, 2013, 04:16:11 PM
I told you it would ubn %)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 14, 2013, 05:08:53 PM
I bow down before your almost fourteen years of experience being on this planet :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: chris gillespie on February 14, 2013, 05:48:04 PM
superb work  :-))
 
im highly entertained  :-)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on February 14, 2013, 10:10:05 PM
superb work  :-))
 
im highly entertained  :-)



Almost 14 I'm almost 15
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: chris gillespie on February 15, 2013, 10:52:14 AM
your quoting the wrong guy... :police: ....young buckeroo  :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 15, 2013, 12:23:24 PM
There is no need to claim my work as your own, when you have a decent looking half painted U-Boat which you have been painting. So start posting some photos of that instead. Also... paint the other side ok2
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on February 15, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
I know I'm just taking the this is a family forum  :-))
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Netleyned on February 15, 2013, 04:40:32 PM
There is no need to claim my work as your own, when you have a decent looking half painted U-Boat which you have been painting. So start posting some photos of that instead. Also... paint the other side ok2

Should have painted  the lower half.
Can't see the underside of a boat.
Don't listen to anyone who calls an Akula sail a Conning Tower.
Must have had an old PJ/X number and ate corticene armies

Ask him :D

Ned
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on February 15, 2013, 04:49:07 PM
??????????? {:-{
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 15, 2013, 05:09:14 PM

Don't listen to anyone who calls an Akula sail a Conning Tower.




Ned

The only things that have sails are sailing ships.......
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on February 15, 2013, 05:32:33 PM
perhaps somebody on the design team thought they could save fuel having a sail instead of the conning tower ! haha

Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on February 15, 2013, 05:35:47 PM
How'd we get on to akulas and painting the bottom of boats and akulas are nuclear arnt they ?
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 15, 2013, 05:40:29 PM
How'd we get on to akulas and painting the bottom of boats and akulas are nuclear arnt they ?

Thats for us to know and you to wonder about...stop looking at my post and start taking pictures of your U-Boat, concentrating on the conning tower.........
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on February 15, 2013, 06:07:55 PM
What's so special about the conning tower all that has is some badly painted men
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: triumphjon on February 15, 2013, 09:01:07 PM
wont the men drown , being glued to a conning tower ?

Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: kraftykid on February 15, 2013, 09:18:04 PM
They hold their breath probably why the look so bad  ok2
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 17, 2013, 07:18:39 PM
Between U37 work and displays at the local lake, I have found a little time for some minor surgery to Nautilus. The salon window is flanked by a number of illuminated globes, these I had fitted with glass Grain of Wheat bulbs, lovely light but not necessarily the best for underwater use. Being prone to blow due to the cold of the water, also introducing a fairly high current drain of 60mAh per bulb, with about sixteen bulbs in use, it was suggested I fit LEDs. However I knew better and ignored this advice %) .
February I was at a show, looking at a stand selling LEDs. He had warm white ones as opposed to the usual nasty looking blue white ones. I stocked up.
Last weekend I set myself the task of removing the glass bulbs from the hot glue I had potted them in. Using a hot air gun to warm everything up, I carefully removed the loom of wires and brass buzz bars, leaving the salon ready to receive its shiney new LEDs.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: merriman on September 17, 2013, 07:50:48 PM
Stunning work! Your tips on running oil-paint has taken me back to school. Very, very informative stuff; a most useful WIP thread. Keep it up.
 
David
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 27, 2016, 06:02:14 PM
"Got a whale of a tale to tell you lads!"
730 days and counting, I am back on Nautilus. Red October is now silently approaching the Eastern Seaboard of the United States, so its back on Nemos sub.
Broke the ram off the bow over new year, I blame Jack Daniels! Now fixed, I then proceeded to break a blade off of the prop, not good. As it is a cast propeller, catching it in a door frame is not to be recommended.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 27, 2016, 06:16:13 PM
The prop was drilled to accept an M" stainless bolt with the head chopped off. This was then Plastic Weldered together and left to go off. Following a bit of tickling with wet and dry paper, I moved on to repairing the damaged paintwork of the prop. Using Rub N Buff gold, applied with an old duff brush, left to dry for a few minutes, then buffed up to a shine, I had a good looking prop...time to weather it!
Using a tester pot of acrylic kitchen paint, roughly coloured like verdigris, I applied a wash, which promptly ran off the polished surface! I then abused it with a Scotchbrite pad, to give the wash something to grip to, which worked nicely. Giving the wash a couple of minutes to settle down, I then proceeded to remove most of it again with a cloth and the stubborn bits, with a finer Scotchbrite pad.
Satisfied that I have at least one good blade, it was back on the model.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 27, 2016, 06:21:18 PM
Also time to start work on the lighting rig for the model when in the water. I want the mysterious glow from around the sub as well as the two 'eyes' lit up. I have decided to use acrylic sheet as a diffuser, drilled to accept ultra-bright 3mm LEDs. One big piece supported about 20mm above the forward watertight hatch, which will illuminate through the freeing ports below the bridge windows. With a second 'diffuser' inside the upper conning tower to illuminate the 'eyes'.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 27, 2016, 06:24:16 PM
In the last picture you can see how I get twice my moneys worth with the LEDs. Direct light and reflected light at the same time. I have one LED in the picture, I shall be fitting twelve ultra-bright turquoise ones, due from Component Shop in the next day or so, that should show up!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 27, 2016, 06:27:19 PM
The 'eye' diffusers are slightly different, having to fit in an awkward position. I ended up making cardboard templates till I got the shape just right, then proceeded to acrylic. This was cut out on a band saw, filed, polished, then lightly abraded to help diffuse the light.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 27, 2016, 06:32:08 PM
There is just enough light spill into the wheelhouse to illuminate all the brasswork, none of which I have built yet! I have opted for Ultra-Bright Warm White for these to avoid the 21st century blue/white light look of normal white LEDs.
The other five bladed prop? That's for Nautilus 2, was nice and bright when I received it ( cheers Prop Shop :-)) ), kind of turned a bit rough after I bunged it in some salty water with an old iron bolt and 36v coursing through it :}
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Unsinkable 2 on January 27, 2016, 07:20:29 PM
Having only joined Mayhem early last year I have only come across this thread today....... What fantastic work! :-)) . Your attention to detail and ability to recreate it together with your weathering is fantastic. I thought the photo of the prop was from the real sub until I realised there wasn't one {-) ...... Let's hope it's not 3 years until the next post....... U2
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: U-33 on January 27, 2016, 08:09:40 PM
Good going, old chap...very impressive indeed.




(I hate clever people....  ;D  )
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: salmon on January 27, 2016, 08:39:43 PM
The lighting coming out the sides is a great effect. You are doing some great details, thank you!
Peace,
Tom
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: ballastanksian on January 27, 2016, 10:50:30 PM
The film is great though I have not seen it for ages. There was a sort of sequal set in a submerged dome but I cannot recall the name and am not sure it was as good.

Lovely work and I agree that the props are works of art.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Subculture on January 27, 2016, 11:03:52 PM
There have been many actors portray Captain Nemo, but none nailed it quite like James Mason.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 28, 2016, 01:41:56 PM
Cheers guys, Much appreciated.

James Mason nailed it. I have seen the late nineties, made for TV versions, too long, no singalongs! ( What is it with 50s and early 60s films that they all had to have a catchy song in them, westerns and The Cruel Sea being some of the worst perpetrators!)

I am familiar with the 'sequel' with the dome in it. I have seen the Nautilus model used in that film, it was sold through a movie prop auction site about three years ago, it looks like a wedding cake with a tail!

I may have said it before, but painting and weathering is a combination of practical experience and much copying of others, then lightly buffed with a cloth!

Anyway, LEDs arrived, very nice light. Out with the soldering iron, then figure out how to waterproof them. Watch this space ok2
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: Nemo on January 28, 2016, 06:48:44 PM
There have been many actors portray Captain Nemo, but none nailed it quite like James Mason.

I beg your pardon ??  :D
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: thegrimreaper on January 29, 2016, 10:26:35 AM
hhmm I went for 10mm Green led`s myself give a strong light through the eyes but a defused light through the bridge


Mark.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 29, 2016, 06:10:00 PM
The upper 'eyes' were originally EMA half hemispheres with a GOW bulb hot glued inside them. When I changed from Grain of Wheat bulbs to LEDs instead ( following some sage advice on the subject here on the forum :-)) ) I had to warm them to release the bulbs. A side effect of this was the weird green/white mix of colours as the hot glue and clear green paint interacted inside the hemispheres, resulting in the odd look in daylight. The only downside being that I will not get the brightest light through these upper fittings.
Anyway, lighting rig got its LEDs fitted last night. I am sure on reflection I could have connected to veroboard for tidiness, but only thought of it afterwards, so spider web wiring it is!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 29, 2016, 06:14:29 PM
Now this lot will need sealing against salt water, so I have planned to go with Servisol Plastic Seal 60, a sort of spray enameling sealer. About three or four coats should do the job, however I may put together a test rig first just to be sure. My only worry being that it may reduce my buffed down, slightly translucent finish, back to a crystal clear look.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 29, 2016, 06:16:08 PM
Operational colours are now fitted. Turquoise for the big 'horse tablet' and warm white for the upper bridge.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 29, 2016, 06:19:15 PM
Couldn't resist test fitting them at well past midnight just to see how they looked.

Not too good in daylight, but those night time sub sailings will be even more exciting than expected :o
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on January 29, 2016, 06:23:47 PM
Looking at the paint finish in the last photo..I think it needs a bit more of a 'metal' sheen to the centres of the panels. Not sure yet how to accomplish that..will give it much thought....
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: ballastanksian on January 29, 2016, 10:10:51 PM
Your lighting system is pot on! I like eerie green light, very sinister:O)

Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: salmon on January 31, 2016, 11:15:39 PM
I agree it has that erie look that the movie had. Well done!

Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 23, 2016, 05:49:09 PM
Guess what?? Broke it again!!
I had the upper structure standing on end, leaning on the hull, when over it went..broke the upper front raker off at No1, spitting the rest up to No4... one evening before the Midhurst Show. Much new swear words were recorded for future use. I had to quickly make good the damage, and blow in a quick coat of metallic whatever colour to blend it all in. The problem with this being I had to match the rest of the model too >>:-( ..

Any way, temporary patch applied.
Next job, get the salon window lights working for Yeovilton Show.. bit more of a bodge, I shall tidy this up later. A quick pass with the camera beforehand....
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 23, 2016, 05:53:36 PM
While repainting whole sections of the model AGAIN... I came across a propelling pencil with a soft lead that had to be 3/16" across. I ran this across the rivet heads lightly, followed by my patented left thumb. This resulted in the rivets gaining a very respectable metallic sheen, along with my thumb of course :-)) .
I also applied a small amount of pencil to some of the hard edges or chines of the model, with a bit more thumb blending to suit. The end result looks good. Not sure how resilient it will be when it gets wet though??
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 23, 2016, 05:57:23 PM
With the two static shows over, it was time for interior detail. I had managed to pick up some Lesro gratings and a ships wheel at the Midhurst event. I also had some paint encrusted stanchions which I salvaged, plus a length of clear acrylic tube and a selection of bits out of my box of tat..combined it made a (strictly semi-scale) bridge interior for Nautilus.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 23, 2016, 05:58:26 PM
Paint it black....
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 23, 2016, 05:59:28 PM
Paint it copper...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 23, 2016, 06:00:43 PM
Stick it in the sub....
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 23, 2016, 06:01:43 PM
Turn the lights on....(and off!)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 23, 2016, 06:02:23 PM
End with a cheesy grin :}
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: U-33 on February 23, 2016, 08:56:59 PM
Well, young fella me lad...you are doing a superb job on this, warts n' all. I confess I've never been a huge Nautilus aficionado, but this is having an effect on me...similar to James May and his fizzy bits.


I forsee myself having a bit of a chat to you in the future about your need to sell this monster to me...in the meantime, I raise my glass in your direction, me old mate...a first class piece of work.


Carry on..
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: ballastanksian on February 23, 2016, 09:16:48 PM
I really wanted a mpodel of the nautilus when I was a boy as the film was brill. Were you at the Yeovilton show last weekend? I don't remember seeing Nautilus there. I might have been flagging pre cuppa by the time I got to the hall with lots of ships in and missed you!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: essex2visuvesi on February 23, 2016, 10:00:40 PM
Well, young fella me lad...you are doing a superb job on this, warts n' all. I confess I've never been a huge Nautilus aficionado, but this is having an effect on me...similar to James May and his fizzy bits.


I forsee myself having a bit of a chat to you in the future about your need to sell this monster to me...in the meantime, I raise my glass in your direction, me old mate...a first class piece of work.


Carry on..


What he said...
Every time I read this thread the next stop is the engel website and and some serious thoughts into what I could sell to finance it
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 24, 2016, 05:00:43 PM
I forsee myself having a bit of a chat to you in the future about your need to sell this monster to me...in the meantime, I raise my glass in your direction, me old mate...a first class piece of work.



Cheers for that, much appreciated. The good news being that I have promised this model to one of our local submarine types..on pain of death if it went anywhere else. So once I have had my fun with it, it is moving on to pastures new. All good practice for the Mk2 version that I am chomping at the bitt to get on with though...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 24, 2016, 05:05:16 PM
I really wanted a mpodel of the nautilus when I was a boy as the film was brill. Were you at the Yeovilton show last weekend? I don't remember seeing Nautilus there. I might have been flagging pre cuppa by the time I got to the hall with lots of ships in and missed you!


We were in the Swordfish Room which is next to the restaurant ( referred to by me as The Naughty Step...its more than a bit out of the way, being outside the main building completely), good lighting and no aircraft to have to fit round, or under.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 24, 2016, 05:36:28 PM
Lurking amongst the Iron Man suits and Minions, was the Mk2. The Depron mock up that has kept me (in)sane for the last few years..getting the odd addition as ideas come to me, the occasional colour change, the once in a while bit of Photoshopping to keep me keen! This will be built around a Darnell/Models By Design U Class RN Submarine hull and deck, with much extra cladding both fore and aft. Taking its 70" length to nearly 80"! Still working on how to cut the model in half for transport. Wont be the first model chopped in to bits!
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on February 24, 2016, 05:39:11 PM
And below the waves...
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: ballastanksian on February 24, 2016, 10:21:09 PM
Treble damn >>:-( I forgot about that room >:-o

I will take more money with me next year so I can buy a pastie in the resurant and that will put me nearby and possibly I will remember to pop in and go Ooh :-))


She looks gorgeous:O)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: spooksgone on February 25, 2016, 04:35:01 PM
I'll be there Ian. I will you treat you to a pasty and a cuppa mate :-)
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: ballastanksian on February 25, 2016, 06:45:43 PM
Aw that's kind Mr Spook:O) :-))

If you want a ww1 4inch naval gun then let me know.
Title: Re: Jules Verne Nautilus
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on March 28, 2019, 07:03:52 PM
Well, I have dusted it, taken it to Steampunk events, dusted it, taken it to SciFi events, dusted it again. All well and good, but it has not got wet, and as an Engel sub, it deserves that at least. So, today it has gone to a new owner, and I have become the proud owner of a wreck which has been making me grin like an idiot every time I look at it. however, that is another story :-))

So, one final nugget of wisdom before I hand over this thread to the new owner.


While testing the various functions of the model prior to hand over, I tested the motor, all good. LED lighting, all good (obviously!), Servos x 5, all good. However, when it came to the Engel dive electronics, the lights would come on occasionally, but the unit wouldn't respond. I drove the pumps into the dived position with a separate battery, after removing the wiring to the electronics, of course! Don't want to be driving voltage the wrong way into expensive electronics. Once the pumps were in the dive position, hooked it all up and tested again. Still nothing. Turning off the Tx resulted in the tanks pumping out as the failsafe activated. Driving the model to the surface in emergency, but still no Tx control. Went on line to find some info on the functioning of the board, too old, couldn't find anything...
So, grabbed my F14 Tx, which has sliders, heard somewhere the pumps work best on sliders...blimey, instant response, up and down control all working, NOT ON THE SLIDERS! I was plugged into a sprung channel.
Upon examining my other Tx, it turned out I had disabled the up/down stick to add a couple of buttons for some sort of thing or other! So, one and a half hours of stressing out, blaming the electronics, could have been avoided if I had checked the test set up on a servo or something similar, before blaming the most complicated part of the set up, rather than the weakest link, the operator..

So, my final lesson learned on Nautilus ( no1!), assume nothing, check everything, then and only then, throw it out the window
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