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Title: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: nhp651 on February 14, 2011, 12:22:38 pm
Well i suppose it had to happen.....we've cut the aircraft carriers to land the planes on.......

we've cut the planes to land on them,

we've cut the NIMRODS to protect nothing, because the planes and aircraft carriers have gone, and there fore nowt TO protect,

and now on the news it's just been anounced that 100 trainee RAF pilots jobs are to be cut.....

well, i suppose if there's no planes for them to fly in, then it's pointless training then to sit on their backsides,

wonder what DOUGLAS BAHDER, AND JOHNY JOHNSON would have thought of the situation..........the mind boggles.

will the last one out, please turn off the lights. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >:-o >:-o >:-o >:-o >:-o



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Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Shipmate60 on February 14, 2011, 12:40:56 pm
What lights, they have already been sold off!!!

Bob
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: RMH on February 14, 2011, 01:10:07 pm
The lights were sold off because we couldn't afford to run them
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Roadrunner on February 14, 2011, 01:18:01 pm
Worse still , we couldn't afford to buy the bulbs in the first place, since all these ministers have been making untrue claims on there living arrangements...
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Netleyned on February 14, 2011, 01:21:52 pm
Cant maintain HMS Victory as they have sold all the oak trees

Ned
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Lord Bungle on February 14, 2011, 01:23:48 pm
its OK folks.
the idea is under Darling Dave's utter BS plan (apparently BS stands for big society and not what you all think  {-) )
volunteers will come to the aid of the country just like they did in 1914 and 1939 when those nice people in whitehall sent them some invites in the post.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: RMH on February 14, 2011, 01:35:35 pm
But can whitehall afford the postage this time
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Lord Bungle on February 14, 2011, 01:37:41 pm
But can whitehall afford the postage this time
yes mate Dave has done a deal with his pals, when they buy the post office at a bargin price (less than a 2nd class stamp) they will do all his deliveries for free
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Dekan on February 14, 2011, 05:10:59 pm
The current estimate is an RAF of 25000 "strong".. :}   Not to worry chaps, we can still "afford" to give millions in "overseas aid" to India and other prosperous countries...

How much more there is to sell off in the great UK PLC fire sale ?...The "Maldives" next?

I hope they have kept traitors gate's hinges well oiled 

Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: pugwash on February 14, 2011, 06:43:13 pm
Sorry Dekan the Maldives went independent in 1965
Geoff
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: funtimefrankie on February 14, 2011, 06:53:31 pm
It's all alright they can volunteer as part of the Big Society and fly that Harrier that was on eBay
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Dekan on February 14, 2011, 07:49:34 pm
Sorry Dekan the Maldives went independent in 1965
Geoff
Sorry I stand corrected.... Brain fade setting in :} I should said the Islas Malvinas... the Falkland isles
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: john s 2 on February 14, 2011, 08:20:30 pm
Spending cuts have to be made. How else would our hounerable Mps be able to maintain thers lifestlye? John.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Dekan on February 14, 2011, 10:28:11 pm
By siphoning off international  aid... {-)
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: wesley on February 14, 2011, 11:00:05 pm
What they say & what they really mean!!!!

"Big Society"                  = Maximise financial cuts

"Bankers Bonuses"         = Looking after our Eton friends

"Big Society Bank"          = Dead peoples money stolen

"Efficency Savings"         = Shutting down Public services

"Investment in NHS"       = Privatised medical services

"Citizen responsibilities"     = You're on your own pal

"Better schools"              = Only if you "live in the right area"

"Military Covenant"           = Pay for your own funerals

"Overhaul MP expenses  = Make it more publically opaque

"Better standards"          = Hidden MPs Tax Havens

"Remove Minister perks" = Well, for a week anyway

"GP financial managers"  =   Taking the heat off of us

"Humanitarian Aid"          = Free overseas holidays / villas

"All in this together"        = Well we can survive on a £million per week

"Welfare Benefit cuts"     = Starve the poor pensioners

"Sell the forests"             = "Old Boy network"  spending spree

Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Bee on February 15, 2011, 05:05:44 am
What you should be complaining about is that these obvious cuts weren't made right at the start of the recession. The money could have been spent training doctors.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: tigertiger on February 15, 2011, 06:28:01 am
...The money could have been spent training doctors.

Assuming that there were sufficient training hospitals left.  {:-{
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Bee on February 15, 2011, 08:42:24 am
which would be funded from the savings in jet fuel costs....
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: hopeitfloats on February 15, 2011, 10:06:47 am
at least you still have an air force/ navy. past governments in nz have 'sold' our air force. a few antique iroquois (sp) helicopters is all thats left and the navy consists of a couple of frigates and a row boat.  :-)
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: bigfella on February 15, 2011, 11:02:41 am
Same here in Australia. Our 3 Amphibious capable ships have been declared un-seaworthy. Two of them have hulls so rusted that they are down to 2mm. We had some amphibious carriers on order but that has been cancelled. About all we can muster is a couple of RIBs.

Regards David
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: richtea on February 15, 2011, 12:09:38 pm
At least our Antipodean friends have a rowboat and RIB,
at the rate this government are going, thats two ships more than we will have. ;D
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: dodgy geezer on February 15, 2011, 12:22:21 pm
Canada? Help...!  <:( <:(
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Bryan Young on February 15, 2011, 04:41:32 pm
Well, we still have a "New World Beating Destroyer" (or 2) that look the business, but don't appear to be fitted with anything worthwhile.
Then we still have a "New World Beating Submarine" (or 2) that look the busines, but the toilet facilties would appear to be a little archaic, and the Nav.systems could (just possibly) be brought into the 21st century.
All a bit sad, isn't it.
And then, watching the "Manchester" chucking away all their frozen stuff accompanied with much giggling from freshly tattooed crew members (of all 3 genders), I had to wonder about just about everything that the RN stands for these days.
Couldn't the Manchester just have done a reverse RAS or Vertrep with the RFA? I wasn't very impressed with the Deep Freeze stowage either! Everything just seemed to be treated as one big joke.
Even more sad. BY.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: richtea on February 15, 2011, 08:16:56 pm
Dear Bry
Watched the programme last night,my thoughts were with lots of people in the Caribbean living on the breadline,
why not put into the nearest island and give the food away.
After all they had 48 hours to dispose of it.
Regards
Richard
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Dekan on February 15, 2011, 08:21:30 pm
Shoot me down if I'm wrong.... but I read somewhere that our Navy is down to about 30 or there abouts ships, but has 60+ Admirals  :}
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: john s 2 on February 15, 2011, 08:53:37 pm
Please dont mention Rowboats. Next thing you know the Navy will bring back Roman style Rowing galleys. No fuel bills and could be
rowed by imprisioned Mps of which the numbers are increasing. John.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: richtea on February 15, 2011, 09:06:31 pm
A few blisters from honest work, now thats a novel idea for an MP.
Good idea.  {-)
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: john s 2 on February 15, 2011, 09:11:40 pm
I dont think that most Mps know what honest or work means. do them good to find out. John.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Lord Bungle on February 16, 2011, 12:55:27 am
Please dont mention Rowboats. Next thing you know the Navy will bring back Roman style Rowing galleys. No fuel bills and could be
rowed by imprisioned Mps of which the numbers are increasing. John.
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you might give them ideas
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: pugwash on February 16, 2011, 02:12:59 am
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought a governments prime duty was to be responsible for the protection of the country and
then to look after the welfare of its citizens.  Does anybody believe the armed services of this country are now fit for the purpose of
defending the country following the swingeing defence cuts. If not are not the government as a whole and the P.M. and Minister of
Defence in particular guilty of Treason.
Any chance of legal aid to test this out in court.

Geoff
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: dodgy geezer on February 16, 2011, 09:26:34 am

.... If not are not the government as a whole and the P.M. and Minister of
Defence in particular guilty of Treason.
Any chance of legal aid to test this out in court.


If you do, you will find that the government are pretty well responsible for legal aid and the court system as well...
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Netleyned on February 17, 2011, 09:21:11 am
Victory should be safe now

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-12488847

Ned
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: essex2visuvesi on February 17, 2011, 11:54:59 am
Instead, it is understood a new panel of experts will be set up to look at public access and biodiversity within the publicly owned woodland.


So that'll be friends, family and the lad that stopped DC having a hot crumpet wedged between his buttocks at school :D
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: pugwash on February 17, 2011, 02:17:56 pm
Somebody from the Woodlands Trust asked on five live radio if it would be the same panel of experts who suggested selling the woods in
the first place

Geoff
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: dodgy geezer on February 17, 2011, 02:18:23 pm
Can anyone think of any time that this 'government' has had a policy and stuck with it when someone opposed it? Any policy?

We seem to be 'ruled' by a set of focus groups and popularity polls. with a prime minister who believes in doing u-turn after u-turn as a substitute for clear leadership...
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Bryan Young on February 17, 2011, 04:02:14 pm
Surely a considered "U-Turn" is better than just blindly going ahead with a flawed idea....which, if memory serves, is more or less what the last lot of muppets used to do, and look at where that got us to.
The way I'm beginning to see much of this is recaltricance by the Sir Humphreys that Cameron is having to battle with to get anything at all done that may (or not) be beneficial to us great unwashed. Having said that, surely making the Forestry Commission more efficient and productive would be better than just tossing out the whole notion of State ownership. It would also help if some of the Union leaders would engage brain and at least try to "modernise" a little. BY.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Dekan on February 17, 2011, 05:18:44 pm
I heard on the News today that a special police task force has shut down a counterfeit Olympics ticket scam..Another waste of money?


IMO the easiest way to identify any counterfeit or stolen tickets.... is to check anybody working class's ticket for any of the premier events (100metre final etc)

Unless of course, they are well connected ..there is no chance of that ticket being "legal"
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: dodgy geezer on February 17, 2011, 05:28:08 pm
Surely a considered "U-Turn" is better than just blindly going ahead with a flawed idea....which, if memory serves, is more or less what the last lot of muppets used to do...

The ideal is actually having sensible ideas and carrying them out. If an unforeseen problem arises, it's a mark of a good government to admit that they were wrong and reverse their position. But I don't think that's what's happening in this case.

The decision to sell off the forests was a stupid one on every level. Apart from anything else, far from saving the taxpayer money it would have cost a lot. But this government aren't reversing the decision because it's bad - they're reversing the derision because people are complaining. That's the mark of a weak government. Imagine how well they will stand up for us in Europe if they fold whenever the going gets a little rough...
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Bryan Young on February 17, 2011, 06:12:00 pm
The ideal is actually having sensible ideas and carrying them out. If an unforeseen problem arises, it's a mark of a good government to admit that they were wrong and reverse their position. But I don't think that's what's happening in this case.

The decision to sell off the forests was a stupid one on every level. Apart from anything else, far from saving the taxpayer money it would have cost a lot. But this government aren't reversing the decision because it's bad - they're reversing the derision because people are complaining. That's the mark of a weak government. Imagine how well they will stand up for us in Europe if they fold whenever the going gets a little rough...
Don't quite agree with you, but if that's your opinion you are quite entitled to it. BY.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Colin Bishop on February 17, 2011, 06:17:31 pm
Good point DG. The present Government are showing every sign of being amateurs. Pressing ahead enthusiastically with what seems to them to be a bright idea and then being appalled when the inevitable Law of Unintended Consequences rears its head because the thing hasn't been thought through properly.

I've seen it all time and time again, in comes a new broom which throws everything into the air in the name of progress only to find that in trying to resolve one set of problems another has been created.

The watchword should always be that before you try to change something, understand it first. It's the way it is at the moment for a reason and you have to understand that reason if you have any hope in changing things for the better. But of course politicians don't have time for that.....

Colin
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Dekan on February 18, 2011, 02:18:33 pm
Don't crow too soon.... {:-{  The government will wait a while and bring back the sale under another guise... :((

A lot of MP,s think that as they have been voted into Parliment, that they are "special people" who have the "insight" to carry out what they think is necessary for the good of the people.

What this means in reality is the best interests of them,the rich and the interest groups who these people really serve. ok2 ;)  
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: pugwash on February 18, 2011, 10:29:28 pm
Well these defence cuts are looking more and more stupid - there are now protests across a lot more of the Arab world - who knows what will happen.
perhaps the government has a chrystal ball and knows it won't affect us.  Then again perhaps they dont.
I bet the governments of the  southern European countries are getting a bit twitchy.
Geoff
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on February 19, 2011, 01:36:06 am
It really is amazing that politicians act and are the same the world over. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Suppose that is not surprising seeing as they are always meeting together for whatever reason and converting those with any nous. <:( <:( <:(
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: malcolmfrary on February 19, 2011, 11:35:49 am
Power corrupts.  Its that opportunity that would-be politicians find so attractive.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Colin Bishop on February 19, 2011, 12:15:22 pm
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It really is amazing that politicians act and are the same the world over.

Not really, it's a people thing. There are certain types of people everywhere and they tend to go into politics because they enjoy having power over others and imposing their views on the populace at large. Not all poloticians are like that but a very large proportion of them seem to be.

There are over 300 million people in the United States and look what sort of jokers make it to the top of the pile - people like Sarah Palin....

Colin
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: tigertiger on February 19, 2011, 12:24:06 pm
Yep. Politics does not make people turn.

It is just that a certain kind of person is attracted to politics. And some of these make it up the ladder.

I have know two members of local parties while in University. One red, one blue. Neither fitted in well with the rest of us, they were 'different'.

One thing about politics in China. People do not have to worry about being re-elected. This means that once they make a decision they get things done. Sometimes the public are up in arms about a new policy and it is not followed through, but generally policies are carried through and change happens quickly.
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Lord Bungle on February 20, 2011, 09:05:23 am
Not really, it's a people thing. There are certain types of people everywhere and they tend to go into politics because they enjoy having power over others and imposing their views on the populace at large. Not all poloticians are like that but a very large proportion of them seem to be.

There are over 300 million people in the United States and look what sort of jokers make it to the top of the pile - people like Sarah Palin....

Colin

I do think they got confused and thought she was a female member of Monty Pythons flying circus  %% {-)
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: Dekan on February 20, 2011, 08:01:24 pm
Not really, it's a people thing. There are certain types of people everywhere and they tend to go into politics because they enjoy having power over others and imposing their views on the populace at large. Not all poloticians are like that but a very large proportion of them seem to be.

There are over 300 million people in the United States and look what sort of jokers make it to the top of the pile - people like Sarah Palin....

Colin
Its all about finding people who will take direction.. Thats how Sarah Palin and the other unlikely characters are selected by the various lobby groups,large corporations and other rich interest groups...It takes a large amount of money to get elected for anything in the USA...If one your backers owns press and media helps
Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: RRS01 on February 26, 2011, 09:03:25 pm
Not really, it's a people thing. There are certain types of people everywhere and they tend to go into politics because they enjoy having power over others and imposing their views on the populace at large. Not all poloticians are like that but a very large proportion of them seem to be.

There are over 300 million people in the United States and look what sort of jokers make it to the top of the pile - people like Sarah Palin....

Colin

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Title: Re: SPENDING CUTS
Post by: brianB6 on February 26, 2011, 10:25:40 pm
I have always thought that if someone wanted to be a politician, they should automatically be disqualified.
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