Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: carlmt on March 21, 2011, 09:34:34 am
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This thought had also crossed my mind (about a ferry meet). I was going to try to organise one for next year (when we should have something to show for our labours over the last 4 months or so).
I am also in the process of designing a 'port' with breakwaters, vehicle assembly areas, buildings and, most importantly, linkspans!! It is planned that this can be transported in sections, bought and build by individuals, and be completely modular - meaning that whoever turns up with their section can know that it will interlock with an adjoining section thereby increasing the port area for operations. All built to 1:96 - but close enough to 1:100 to be useable.
A meet is a damn good idea!!!!
Carl
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It would be good to have a ferry meet. The ferry port looks great. I am working on something like this to protect my ship when along side.
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I am up for a ferry meet. I know may friend Paul is. Like the dock idea. As well as link spans could we have a berth for ferrys with there own ramps?
John
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I am up for a ferry meet. I know may friend Paul is. Like the dock idea. As well as link spans could we have a berth for ferrys with there own ramps?
John
Dead easy John - was working on the design today..........proposal is to be completely modular: instead of the linkspan 'module' the space can be left for 'stern ramp' vessels....
Will post up a sketch in a moment....
Carl
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Here we go - vessel on the left is using the linkspan, vessel on the right has its own stern ramp.....
Carl
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Hi Carl
like the drawing you have done. You are very good on the computer drawing that would have taken me ages.
My Friend Jason has the Queen Mary model and I are looking in to making a modular harbour. We have some ideas and are wating on a friend to get some free wood for us to try the idea on. If they work will let you know.
John
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If we come up with a universal system of joining the modules together, we can make our own link spans, quays and ramps tailor-made to match our ship sizes.
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Ali - been mulling this one over in my mind whilst driving home from work (the standardised interlocking...) - have a few thoughts I will clarify during this week and will put something up on here for discussion on saturday.......
Carl
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Hi guys. Check these videos out. Very inspirational.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBDjs8KEnZ8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQfXJY6y3Xg&feature=related
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Thanks for finding those clips Ali - most inspirational :-)) :-)) :-))
That is one detailed dock!!!!! And the ships are pretty good too!!!!!!!!!!!
Carl
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Another cool video. Just wish it was a bit longer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ho3WHU6od0&feature=feedlik
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Hi all. I have a question for Carl. When you say "blue foam" What do you mean? Is it the stuff you find at the swimming pool or just stiff sponge. I am designing a quay which consists of a wooden frame, filled with thick polystyrene sheet and sandwiched in plywood. It will have a linkspan like in the picture below.
Ali.
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Hi Ali - the blue foam I refer to can be found here:
http://new.panelsystems.co.uk/newsc/index.pl?c=Craftfoam&p=508&a=i
It is what I use for the plugs of new hulls. It is quite stiff, does not absorb moisture, does not crumble easily and yet can be cut and shaped with ease. I like it because it doesnt need protection from water and can take acrylic paint (looks like concrete when painted grey).
Like the linkspan :-)) :-)) :-)) Havent thought much further on this yet as I am trying to push on with the plug for the FEV.....
Carl
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Another source of "blue-foam" is Sheffield Insulations. OOPS >>:-(, I`ll try again.
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Another source of "blue-foam" is Sheffield Insulations, they have branches all over the country, check phone book for local depot. It has the texture of a Crunchie bar, not individual granular stuff as used for packing. Used under concrete floors amongst other things so watch the building site for spare off-cuts etc. I notice that www.papershipwright.co.uk/pf05/details.shtml wharf/quayside model in their list. Could be handy for details and colours etc. Any other sources of what we could adapt ?
There was another with linkspan for rail ferries but I`ll have to find it again on another paper model site.
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Hi ,
I used Blue foam to build the Bretange and then covered it in glass fibre mat and then epoxy resin instead of fibreglass resin , worked well and I got a hull in a short time.
I bought mine from a shop that specialises in architectural modeling supplies called 4Models in central London , there are on line too.
Regs Paul.
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Ah I know the stuff you mean. I might have a bit floating around here somewhere but its not going to be enough. fortunately there is a branch of Sheffield Insulations in Norwich so I'll check it out. I'm presuming that you can use No More Nails to bond it to plywood.
Ali.
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No More Nails ? Never tried it..just the name puts me off %% ! I do like Gorilla Glue and use weatherproof wood glue Evostick wood glue in the BLUE plastic container but it takes longer to dry on the blue foam. To seal outside for painting use a slightly thinned Evostick (15% water) to paste soaked brown wrapping paper over the foam , coat a couple of coats allowing to dry between each coat and you will have an egg-shell type skin ready to glass or just paint.
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I used Blue foam to build the Bretange
Get the name right for my favourite ferry, it's Bretagne and I'm off aboard her for the umpteenth time in a couple of weeks or so. A real classic ship.
Colin
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GAWD you guys must all be multi millionaires using that blue foam......i can only goggle at the price of it.....45 sobs for a 2' x 2' peice.....the mind boggles.
as for no more nails.........i just bought one of those new all improved aerosol pump action tins....luckily it was half price at £4.99 a tin.........it did precisely 15' of single line beading, in one line 6mm wide.......and then ran out.......and it didn't grab in the prescribed 10 seconds....took 12 hours to set properly..........WHAT AN ADVERTISING RIP OFF!!! and a waste of money.
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GAWD you guys must all be multi millionaires using that blue foam......i can only goggle at the price of it.....45 sobs for a 2' x 2' peice.....the mind boggles.
as for no more nails.........i just bought one of those new all improved aerosol pump action tins....luckily it was half price at £4.99 a tin.........it did precisely 15' of single line beading, in one line 6mm wide.......and then ran out.......and it didn't grab in the prescribed 10 seconds....took 12 hours to set properly..........WHAT AN ADVERTISING RIP OFF!!! and a waste of money.
45 sobs for a 2' x 2' peice............X 20 pieces!!!!!! = 2.25 sobs per piece.....
They come in packs of varying numbers depending on the thickness you want...
Carl
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The price of blue foam has rocketed over the years but just to make you all weep <:( here are a couple of shots of the stash of DONATED blue foam that I got some years ago. Was about £32 per sheet at the time. Wonder how much it would be today %% ! Yes I do have a few pieces squirrelled away for future use. Thank you again Sheffield Insulations and the lady executive of the company, whose father served on the Ark Royal during WWII. It was she that gave me the start of my HMS Invincible model. Also seen in one picture is the brown paper method of protecting the foam from attack by polyester resin.
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Hmmm the last post got me thinking...blue foam, blue ship :embarrassed: Anybody got plans for, or know where to get, plans for ex Rosyth ferry "Scottish Viking". It is now ploughing the Swedish Baltic coast.
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Hi everyone. I found this stuff on the Wicks web site. I want a closer look at this so I'm going down to my local branch to see if they have any. It may turn out to be the wrong stuff but if it can be used, What do you think of the price, is it good value?
http://www.wickes.co.uk/heavy-density-insulation/invt/161189/
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Doesn't seem right. There is mention of "itchy" in the revues and "heavy". Not polystyrene foam but might be a good sustitute. No mention of water absorbancy. Sheffield stuff is less than 1%. Ask for a sample. :-))
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Hmmm the last post got me thinking...blue foam, blue ship :embarrassed: Anybody got plans for, or know where to get, plans for ex Rosyth ferry "Scottish Viking". It is now ploughing the Swedish Baltic coast.
Well, she was built in Italy - you COULD try contacting the shipyard and see if they can help with plans. Might be difficult - Norfolkline / DFDS are notoriously difficult to get sensitive material like drawings out of...
CANTIERE NAVALE VISENTINI S.R.L.
42, Via Romea 45014 Porto Viro (Rovigo)
ITALY
workTel: +39 0426320 700
Cheers, Carl
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Hi everyone. I found this stuff on the Wicks web site. I want a closer look at this so I'm going down to my local branch to see if they have any. It may turn out to be the wrong stuff but if it can be used, What do you think of the price, is it good value?
http://www.wickes.co.uk/heavy-density-insulation/invt/161189/
Hi Ali - I like the look - and the price! - of this stuff. Let me know what you think when you clap eyes on the stuff. Far cheaper than blue foam. Could be ideal for the plugs. It only needs to hold its shape until the body filler has been applied. I can live with having to wear gloves and a face mask when working with it - common sense really!!!!
Carl
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Thanks for the address Carl, I`ll give them all a try. Will post on here if lucky. :-))
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