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Title: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on March 28, 2011, 05:03:00 PM
This was a splendid day, with fantastic weather. I was little concerned when I first got up as early on in the morning, things were looking decidedly grey, and it was quite chilly. However the sun soon got his hat on, and by about 11 'o'clock most of us were down to our short sleeves.

We had about thirteen attend on the day and about seventeen boats present with a steady stream of spectators throughout the day. Now looking forward to the Summer Dive-in, which is held at St Albans in Hertfordshire. This is weekend long event, with 6 hour sailing slots each day. The pool is a bit smaller than Brockwell, but at 100ftx60ft and a 9ft deep end is still more than big enough to accommodate large boats.

The following photographs were taken by Roy Palmer and were shot towards the end of the day. Other photos and video should follow, and will hopefully be added to this thread. No film or pictures from me I'm afraid- I was kept a little busy to take any pictures this time around.

Andy


(http://s2.postimage.org/1ndkofaqs/Typhoon_U47.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ndkofaqs/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1ndmbyn8k/Conning.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ndmbyn8k/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1ndpn1c84/Engel212.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ndpn1c84/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1ndrakopw/poolside.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ndrakopw/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1ndsy417o/TYPEVII.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ndsy417o/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1ndw96q78/TYPEVIIpool.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ndw96q78/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1ndxwq2p0/212type_VII.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1ndxwq2p0/)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Mankster on March 28, 2011, 06:45:46 PM
Opps missed this thread and posted on the old one.
Somemore pictures here...

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02223.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02233.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02206.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02200.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02212.jpg)

Brave....
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02239.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02240.jpg)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: silent running556 on March 28, 2011, 07:38:11 PM
Glad the weather stayed alright in the end. :-))
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Mankster on March 28, 2011, 07:46:40 PM
Yes weather was perfect. Trevor and Roy brought thier U47's. I'll postsome pics of them once I have uploaded them.
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: silent running556 on March 28, 2011, 08:25:52 PM
Nice one. I'll try for the June events in St Albans.Mine will be the one that resembles Del boy's van. :D
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on March 28, 2011, 08:43:34 PM
Jolly good. Del-boys van? That will please the fiancι of one of the (potential) attendees.  :}

Andy
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: trevor v on March 28, 2011, 09:17:00 PM
Yes it was a very good day :-)) I enjoyed it even with a battery problem (a dead cell in one of the packs.) A good day was had by all, i will definitely be at St albans
(http://s2.postimage.org/1qdwdnn6s/PTDC0018.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1qdwdnn6s/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1qe6avq5g/PTDC0009.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1qe6avq5g/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1qehvn5lw/PTDC0016.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1qehvn5lw/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1qetgel2c/PTDC0015.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1qetgel2c/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1qfglxfz8/PTDC0003.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1qfglxfz8/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1qfysu9es/PTDC0010.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1qfysu9es/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/1qg3rgaw4/PTDC0007.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/1qg3rgaw4/)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Mankster on March 29, 2011, 10:52:32 AM
Here are the U47's. Roy's is pretty much standard and Trevor's is fitted with a 825ml pistonn tank.

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02204.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02211.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02250.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02264.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02209.jpg)
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02210.jpg)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: silent running556 on March 29, 2011, 06:34:48 PM
Nice pictures, you haven't got a close up of the motor wiring/capasitors have you? I had to look for replacements as i only have one set. I got a couple in Maplins (Stevenage).
I've had drill problems too so still waiting to put the mess, whoops sorry i meant finely cut sections together.
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on March 29, 2011, 07:13:45 PM
Have a look at this link- http://www.kronosrobotics.com/an142/GAN142.shtml
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: trevor v on March 29, 2011, 09:26:00 PM
pic of capasitors
(http://s2.postimage.org/209k8ciec/PTDC0023.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/209k8ciec/)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Davy1 on March 30, 2011, 10:44:26 AM
Could I just say that is a very useful reference that Andy has found on interference.

David
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: silent running556 on March 31, 2011, 12:45:54 AM
Thanks everyone, I've been fiddling with the brass bits at the front of the boat today, cutting bits off with a hack saw. My soldering iron likes to stink alot but has a phobia to solder. :embarrassed:
Decided to attack the body work again to relieve the frustration.
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Davy1 on March 31, 2011, 12:20:46 PM
Clean the brass well. Plenty of heat - good big soldering iron (50 watts) and use some extra flux - Fluxite does the job for me!
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on March 31, 2011, 04:54:35 PM
You may need to clean the soldering iron tip too- probably oxidised, or might have burnt out, they do after quite a bit of use.
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: silent running556 on March 31, 2011, 05:46:05 PM
It's brand new but only 30w and £4.99. Looks like i might be needing more oomph. I'm slightly puzzled as to exactly what i'm supposed to do with the bits here anyway. At least i know the black wire's live and the red's earth eh.  8)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Mankster on March 31, 2011, 07:08:14 PM
One end of the soldering iron soon get too hot to hold... Thats all you need to get right, and everything else will be downhill from there  ;)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: bijou on March 31, 2011, 08:04:15 PM
SUPER Pictures.I am jealous of Yours gays!.We don't have a submarine Club.
 :-) ok2 :-))
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: bassplayer1 on March 31, 2011, 09:09:50 PM
Fantastic!!! I wish I was there!!!
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Mankster on April 01, 2011, 10:44:21 AM
More pictures....

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02218-1.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02219.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02225.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02230.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02267.jpg)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on April 01, 2011, 10:55:58 AM
I wish you were there too!

We aren't a club. These events are open to anyone to come along. We get people from various organisations, and some who just prefer to remain independent.

We have a weekend Dive-in in June. I've never seen a weekend long model submarine event take place in the UK, so it's a shot in the dark. If it's successful, it will become an annual event.

Andy
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Davy1 on April 01, 2011, 11:32:34 AM
Andy is giving a rather one-sided description of the events which he and Ramesh run as private individuals.

There are many submarine events in the UK which have been run for many years including for example Merstham (Coming soon) This is  weekend event and is a proper show with a swimming pool and it is run for Charity.

More details of all these events on:

http://associationofmodelsubmariners.com/forthcoming-events.php
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Mankster on April 01, 2011, 11:43:18 AM
More pictures...
(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02261.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02265.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02274.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02279.jpg)

(http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q191/Wheelerdealers/DSC02280.jpg)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on April 01, 2011, 12:06:18 PM
Events like the Merstham show are very nice, and I've attended in the past. It's worth pointing out that access to the pool is restricted to 'slots' of about half an hour (30 minutes) at a time and you tend to get about three or four slots in a day to sail. So that gives you about and hour or two of sailing time each day. For some that is enough.

At the Dive-ins, providing there are no clash in frequencies, you can sail for a full six hours for each day which usually exhausts the endurance of the operator before the boat.

The pool sizes are also considerably larger, which better suits the bigger boats like the Typhoons etc.

Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: AL 1 on April 01, 2011, 03:07:12 PM
SUPER Pictures.I am jealous of Yours gays!.We don't have a submarine Club.
 :-) ok2 :-))
the gays were not there they will be at mertsham ;)
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Patrick Henry on April 01, 2011, 03:43:46 PM
Cheeky....give us a kiss.   :D
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: MikeW on April 02, 2011, 10:17:14 AM
Opps basic mistake, not good with forums! I will repost in a new thread.  :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: gyronuts on April 02, 2011, 08:30:59 PM
mankster....thought that conning tower in the background of the last photo was huge..then realised it was a rubbish bin!!!
Bill
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: silent running556 on April 03, 2011, 01:32:59 AM
Nice details on that u boat too, the rivets and the rusting looks very good.
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: silent running556 on April 03, 2011, 01:56:26 AM
That reminds me, you know the half tonne robbe 6v 5ah batteries recommended for the u 47, how do you charge them up? Thanks.
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on April 03, 2011, 08:43:09 AM
mankster....thought that conning tower in the background of the last photo was huge..then realised it was a rubbish bin!!!
Bill

LOL, I hadn't spotted that, but I see what you mean now. The coke tin perched on top almost looks like a flag too!
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: thegrimreaper on April 04, 2011, 10:34:41 AM
That reminds me, you know the half tonne robbe 6v 5ah batteries recommended for the u 47, how do you charge them up? Thanks.

As the Robbe batteries are very expensive Robbe probably recommend you use there Robbe battery charger which is probanly very expensive now if only Carling made battery chargers  :-))

In my U47 I ditched the Robbe batteries and went with 12 vols 3 amp hour batteries thes also help with the ballesting of the sub making dynamic diving easier to attain because the U47 now sits lower in the water at deck awash

Regards Mark
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on April 04, 2011, 11:18:54 AM
I use an icharger 106B, which is complete overkill for lead acid battries, but I'm not sure if there is a battery that has been invented that this charger cannot deal with. It does the lot, and is a fantastic piece of kit, and stunning value for money IMO.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6792
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: thegrimreaper on April 04, 2011, 02:39:36 PM
Andy is this charger suitable for lead acid just looked at the specs and lead acid aint mentioned or am I barking up the wrong tree here and the Robbe batteries arn`t lead acid ?

Spec.
Input voltage range : 10.0 – 18.0VDC
Charge current range : 0.05 – 10.0A
Discharge current range : 0.05 – 7.0A
Maximum charge power capacity : 250W @ input voltage > 13.5V
Maximum discharge power capacity : 20W
Maximum extern discharge power capacity : 170W @ 20V/7A
Current drain for balancing : <300mA
Balance accuracy : <10mV
Lithium (LiPo/LiIo/LiFe) battery cell count : 1 – 6 series
NiCd/NiMH battery cell count : 1 – 17 series
Pb battery cell count : 1 – 12 series (2 – 24V)
Battery setup memories : 10
Intelligent temperature control : Yes
PC Connect : USB port
Weight : 350g
Dimensions (L X W X D) : 134X83X25mm

Regards Mark
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on April 04, 2011, 03:14:51 PM
It does say that- Pb is lead acid (Pb is the chemical symbol for lead).

The Robbe boats I've seen use lead acid batteries, unless the owner has deviated from the original design.
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: thegrimreaper on April 04, 2011, 03:17:31 PM
aahh right thanks for that Andy live and learn science teacher always said I was a thicko

Regards Mark
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: Subculture on April 04, 2011, 03:26:11 PM
Derived from plumbonium, which I think is the latin word for lead, which the Romans used extensively for their pipework, and is most likely where plumbers got their name from. If only they charged Roman rates!
Title: Re: Dive-in at Lido. First Brockwell Dive-in of the year 27th March 2011
Post by: silent running556 on April 06, 2011, 12:29:31 AM
Yep deffo lead acid,ordered a charger off of Mainly Models for £13 odd, the Robbe one was £35.  I think i'm turning the corner a bit on the soldering side of things at least, hopefully anyway.
I think the charger is via JP or Ripmax i think. Very similar to the one i've got for the receiver/transmitter batteries.