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Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Shipmate60 on May 17, 2011, 05:50:45 pm

Title: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Shipmate60 on May 17, 2011, 05:50:45 pm
As above really, we seem to have some quite bad tempered posts.

Can I remind all that Mayhem is to PROMOTE model boating. All aspects of model boating.

Some new members are being put off posting which I do not consider is the ethos of Mayhem at all.

Bob
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Patrick Henry on May 17, 2011, 05:53:22 pm
I'll second that...
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: knoby on May 17, 2011, 06:09:43 pm
I have to agree too, membership here should be looked on as a privilege, not a right & members should conduct themselves in an appropriate manor
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: wartsilaone on May 17, 2011, 06:37:57 pm
Quite right! If only I put it like that.

Ali.
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Circlip on May 17, 2011, 06:45:16 pm
Is that in the Manor born or an appropriate Manner?

  Regards Ian.
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Bryan Young on May 17, 2011, 07:05:53 pm
It's a bit difficult to put a heartfelt answer to the first question as it implies so much.
Yes, in some cases bad temper and intolerance comes through. But look at the other side of the same coin.
This subject has been aired fairly recently....different language, but it boils down to the same thing.
Although many of us are more than willing to help out with genuine queries: such as sending PMs and even CDs to people we don't know, it can all get a bit wearing when a poster just slaps in a question that's been answered many, many times.
This forum has answers to so many questions by so many other modellers that it's not really all that surprising that some questions are answered rather tersely.
Too many questioners are just wanting a "quick fix" rather than doing a bit of homework on the forum. And I'm not just talking about "newcomers" here.
The Search Engine" is there to be used....so use it.
But the "bad temper" seems to be more prevalent in the Chit Chat section. BY.
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: John Mk2 on May 17, 2011, 07:10:13 pm
A VERY small percentage of member's on here go out of their way to bait others  :(( Sometime's they bite sometime's not. But If they do bite it can get nasty ! As we all know  >:-o
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Roadrunner on May 17, 2011, 07:55:48 pm
Although many of us are more than willing to help out with genuine queries: such as sending PMs and even CDs to people we don't know, it can all get a bit wearing when a poster just slaps in a question that's been answered many, many times.
This forum has answers to so many questions by so many other modellers that it's not really all that surprising that some questions are answered rather tersely.
Too many questioners are just wanting a "quick fix" rather than doing a bit of homework on the forum. And I'm not just talking about "newcomers" here.
The Search Engine" is there to be used....so use it.
But the "bad temper" seems to be more prevalent in the Chit Chat section. BY.

I have to agree with Bryan on this one, its not really a grump as such its now the fact that many are unable to use 'self help' , just to point out that i have answered quite a few questions with little knowledge in areas ( haha see i don't know everything) just by googling the question that was asked!

Membership is a privilege not a right as one pointed out and i like to think that the regular posters do contribute a lot of valuable information, repetitive or not, but however i do think i have to point out that a thread like this will turn into a finger point session and start the drama up that has laid dormant for quite some time.

Little spats are bound to happen but its the admin's job to keep that under control, time are tight for everyone, even our own forum Owner Martin has felt the pinch with this recent redundancy, mine has been ongoing for 2 years now! tempers are frayed, and it don't take much to set them off.

As a word of advice maybe this thread should get locked or removed, its becoming a powder keg for something to kick off shortly


Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: The long Build on May 17, 2011, 08:33:32 pm
, it can all get a bit wearing when a poster just slaps in a question that's been answered many, many times.
This forum has answers to so many questions by so many other modellers that it's not really all that surprising that some questions are answered rather tersely.
Too many questioners are just wanting a "quick fix" rather than doing a bit of homework on the forum. And I'm not just talking about "newcomers" here.
The Search Engine" is there to be used....so use it.

I agree with this to a degree, however at times the search engine Does Not always produce the desired results, I have searched in the past for a thread but to no avail ( and I am pretty computer literate.), however the thread has been found by someone else.
It could be said that after nearly 6 years of the forum running all questions must have been asked, In which case nobody will ask questions as they may fear falling fowl to the " It has been asked before" Go look for it.. In Which case the Forum will become stale, often the periods between questions being asked the forum has had new members who might give a different take on the same said question, often when you want to carry on a question from a thread that is old the Forum suggests that you start a new Thread. :-)) Just My Opinion..
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: The long Build on May 17, 2011, 08:39:23 pm
As a word of advice maybe this thread should get locked or removed, its becoming a powder keg for something to kick off shortly

If this is the case then it just proves the point to the original question.
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: boatman 101 on May 17, 2011, 08:56:13 pm
HI im a newbie an i have tried the search engine for HANNAS ARK ROYAL thread an i cant find it any help appreciated
chris
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Marks Model Bits on May 17, 2011, 09:14:53 pm
Could try spelling her name correctly hehehehehe :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=3322.0

Or after Hannah sold it..........

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=27183.0

Mark..
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on May 17, 2011, 10:33:33 pm
Grumpy who said that <*< <*< >>:-( >>:-( {-) {-) {-)
Yes there is problems finding info via search engine.
Its a big ask I know but is it possible for say the moderators to re-title/edit threads and put them in correct categories/sub categories simplifying searches.
Eureka no more grumpy ;) ;) ;) ;)
And commentray does get dated :-)) :-))

Now I'am grumpy but it'll be orright i'll get over it
 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: essex2visuvesi on May 18, 2011, 06:37:38 am
The search engine is a useful tool but as others have said you need to be specific and also spell things correctly, and sometimes if you don't know the correct terminology or spelling then it can be a veritable minefield.
My dad always says being grumpy is a privilege gained with age :D
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on May 18, 2011, 09:53:39 am
My dad always says being grumpy is a privilege gained with age :D

Aha that explains it, reckon most mayhemers are therefore privileged
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Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: omra85 on May 18, 2011, 10:11:05 am
The search engine is a useful tool but as others have said you need to be specific and also spell things correctly, and sometimes if you don't know the correct terminology or spelling then it can be a veritable minefield.
My dad always says being grumpy is a privilege gained with age :D

Today, after many years of Mayhem membership, I have discovered how to get results from the search engine  %) :embarrassed:
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30386.msg300464#msg300464 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30386.msg300464#msg300464)

The instructions are plain to see, but who ever reads instructions  :-X
I made the basic error of thinking that the "search box" at the top of each page was linked to some mythical "index" somewhere, and succeeded in getting NIL points on the occasional time I tried to use it!!
The secret (which probably everyone but me knows about) is to use the "search box" on the "HOME PAGE" ONLY!

So today, I'm a bit less grumpy  O0 {-) {-)

Cheers
Danny
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: essex2visuvesi on May 18, 2011, 10:14:48 am
Aha that explains it, reckon most mayhemers are therefore privileged
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Yep and some more than others ;)

Today, after many years of Mayhem membership, I have discovered how to get results from the search engine  %) :embarrassed:
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30386.msg300464#msg300464 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30386.msg300464#msg300464)

The instructions are plain to see, but who ever reads instructions  :-X
I made the basic error of thinking that the "search box" at the top of each page was linked to some mythical "index" somewhere, and succeeded in getting NIL points on the occasional time I tried to use it!!
The secret (which probably everyone but me knows about) is to use the "search box" on the "HOME PAGE" ONLY!

So today, I'm a bit less grumpy  O0 {-) {-)

Cheers
Danny

But you still need to be able to spell the thing you are looking for and possibly the correct terminology for example It does't show many results for "The wobbly bit on the back that makes the boat turn"
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: omra85 on May 18, 2011, 10:18:59 am
It does't show many results for "The wobbly bit on the back that makes the boat turn"

...  but you get some GREAT results for "rubber control"   {-) {-) %%

Danny
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: malcolmfrary on May 20, 2011, 06:32:38 pm
Quote
But you still need to be able to spell the thing you are looking for
Very nearly.  You have to spell it the same way that it was spelled in the thread/thread title for it to be found.

Am I getting grumpier?  Nah.  No room on the spectrum of grumpiness there.
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: rmaddock on May 22, 2011, 07:56:15 pm
Have you heard the research which tells us that when an argument breaks out on the internet, it will ALWASY, within no more than 30 posts, result in somebody being likened to Hitler or the Nazis.  >>:-(

I wish I had one of those research jobs.

I'm a newbie. I'll try to be courteous.  :-X
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Roadrunner on May 22, 2011, 08:42:56 pm
when an argument breaks out on the internet, it will ALWAYs Corrected ya typo for ya  :-)) ), within no more than 30 posts,

That's cos everything that can be said usually happens in the first 5 posts, the further 25 are just fanning the flames and it dies cos either everyone gets bored with it , or the posts end up locked.
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on May 22, 2011, 10:30:00 pm
We wouldn't want the statisticians to be wrong so here is numero 21 to keep it going. Si
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Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: The long Build on May 22, 2011, 11:12:44 pm
Looking at some of the more recent posts on the Forum There is only 1 answer... Yes people are getting more Grumpy !!!!!
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Dekan on May 23, 2011, 08:10:35 pm
I not getting grumpy...I always have been :} Optimist with experience... :-))
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: RaaArtyGunner on May 23, 2011, 09:47:30 pm
In case it has been missed, the question was based on a premise, namely, that we are already grumpy and then the question, are we getting worse (grumpier).

Naturally there is Mayhem with all the posts, as it behoves our membership to aspire to the forum principles, rules, etc etc etc etc Model Boat Mayhem- Forum.

But are some going from Mayhem to bedlam, well friends that could be the question  O0 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: sunworksco on May 24, 2011, 06:45:26 am
Forums can be just as impersonable as a drive-by shooting sometimes. :police:
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: BarryM on May 24, 2011, 08:29:30 am
Grumpy who said that <*< <*< >>:-( >>:-( {-) {-) {-)
Yes there is problems finding info via search engine.
Its a big ask I know but is it possible for say the moderators to re-title/edit threads and put them in correct categories/sub categories simplifying searches.
Eureka no more grumpy ;) ;) ;) ;)
And commentray does get dated :-)) :-))

Now I'am grumpy but it'll be orright i'll get over it
 O0 O0 O0

If members would post with titles that indicated their subject it certainly would help. How many times is a title like "Help Wanted" or "Newbie needs Help" seen in the listings. A title that provides information on just what kind of help is needed is far more likely to attract attention.

Perhaps it is not for Moderators to edit posting titles - they have enough to do - but for the penny to drop with the posters that they can do more to attract assistance.

Barry M
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: essex2visuvesi on May 24, 2011, 10:21:15 am
Have you heard the research which tells us that when an argument breaks out on the internet, it will ALWASY, within no more than 30 posts, result in somebody being likened to Hitler or the Nazis.  >>:-(

I wish I had one of those research jobs.

I'm a newbie. I'll try to be courteous.  :-X

That'll be godwins law then
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: malcolmfrary on May 24, 2011, 03:24:29 pm
About the same length of time was the accepted norm for the thread to drift into PC hardware/software "discussions", but that was when the only people populating t'interweb were computer geeks.
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Roadrunner on May 24, 2011, 04:57:11 pm
that was when the only people populating t'interweb were computer geeks.

Yes now its all perverts looking for a 'fix' online   %%
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: omra85 on May 24, 2011, 07:27:54 pm
Yes now its all perverts looking for a 'fix' online   %%

Speaking personally - I don't consider playing with model boats perverted - a bit strange perhaps .....   ;D

Cheers
Danny
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: Dave13 on May 24, 2011, 08:48:23 pm
My daughter says I'm grumpy however its usually because something just fell off my boat!! LOL %% %%
Title: Re: Are people getting Grumpier.
Post by: tt1 on May 25, 2011, 01:07:09 am
!My best Pal thinks I can be grumpy, returned home one eve to find this stuck on the model room door!   {-)


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