Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Any Other Builds => Topic started by: bobk on August 08, 2011, 09:13:18 am
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"Bobs Shipyard"
I hope "Dry Dock" is the best point to post this project under. Having recently returned to model making, and despairing of achieving anything useful in short stints using the dining table (having to clear away each time), I have started converting the now disused office into a model shipyard. Clearing down loads of filing cabinets and pigeon hole stacker's etc meant many trips to the dump.
Anyway, phase one is nearly there as the new workshop conversion takes shape.
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Two nice cheap kitchen wall units from B&Q, plus a solid pine worktop intended for detail work. Wall mounted brackets for the boats and space for two cork boards for plans.
In progress is converting my old 9 ft x 3 ft CAD workstation bench as a full workbench, which is currently being iron-on veneered in pine to match the above. I intend a couple more wall units over with shelving for component organiser drawer units for tools and my already accumulating stocks of tools components and paints etc. Photo to follow soon.
Any advice on lighting would be appreciated. I was thinking of kitchen style under-cupboard strip lighting and a magnifying lamp for close work.
I would greatly appreciate any hints and tips from those of you who have workshops. What best to use, how to organise it etc. Please feel free to post your photos.
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It looks fine as you've got it already. :-))
Just one suggestion. Run a batch of 13 amps sockets along the back wall. You'd be surprised how many electrical items you need connected. %) Here's mine.
Ken
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Thanks Kenny. That's quite a few sockets you have there. I was only going to put a couple in each wall, but I will take your suggestion and spread more along the length. Having at least one 'open' shelf looks like a good idea too. By asking for suggestions I am trying to avoid finding out what I should have thought of to include after the 'shipyard' goes operational.
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Bob I would definitely go Kenny's route of plenty of plugs - I have 14 plugs and at the moment there is something plugged in to 11 of them.
It will be far harder to add them later.
Geoff
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Definitely electrical sockets, I have twenty and I use them all.
I have a daylight strip light with seperate magnifying glass.
Loads of shelving is handy.
A television is a must [ Dont worry darling, you watch your programme, I will watch mine in my workshop ]. See what I mean. :-))
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Hi, I am not a very tidy person but keeping the 13 amp sockets high so that the plug wire drops down saves burying them in items on the work top.
I also keep the big cardboard tubes (4 inch dia.) for storage, you can cut them in half and re-seal the ends for storing smaller lengths of tubing, dowel etc.
looking good, regards Roy
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I agree Roy, most cables tend to be far too long, so I have a gap down the back of the CAD workstation to take up slack. Below shows the opposite wall measuring out the pine veneer ready to start applying. note the 'under construction' mess is temporary (tee hee!)
An area for tubes is a good idea
Richard: That flexi-shelving system is so useful, especially as it is easy to reconfigure it just by moving the brackets. If I got a television in there hopefully it would not be limited to just forensic drama's like the big TV 'Commander In Chief Home Forces' has in the living room? CSI, NCIS, Bones etc Will SKY ever have a model boats channel ?
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I now intend adding two more banks of sockets here, a couple of wall cupboards and shelving. Daylight strip lights under the shelving, and some under bench boxes for storage.
Two temptations I must avoid:
1) To reach a workable point where I stop work on the Shipyard and get back to some ship rigging and porthole drilling.
2) To somehow allay domestic fears that I may be about to embark on an eight foot Schleswig Holstein pre-dreadnaught. %)
(The window is not wide enough to get it out) {-)
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How comforting to see that DickyD uses Z-poxy and the 8-cell AA charger - is that the 7dayshop one?
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"ooOOoH look at me and my private space, I have 300 sockets and 50million watt spot lamps !!" I cant even take a dump in my house without someone gettin under my feet! >>:-( seventh heaven for some innit your all a bunch of jammy so n so's!! >>:-( :}
Im not jelous ;D :P
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I see you have a drawing of HMAS Armidale there Richard. Your next project???
Peter.
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How comforting to see that DickyD uses Z-poxy and the 8-cell AA charger - is that the 7dayshop one?
Yes it is, its excellent.
Bought 2 torches for home the other day from them.
2/Torches + 4/ C cells including postage and VAT= £ 3.99 THE LOT.
http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=777 :-))
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I see you have a drawing of HMAS Armidale there Richard. Your next project???
Peter.
Had the 1/72 hull since before Christmas Peter, it's one of Steve Batcheldor's.
Havent done much, haven't been up to it.
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many years ago I knocked up 4 double cupboards from 4x2, mdf and ply. they are modular and include a double 13amp socket and a vacuum socket in each. since then I have moved house a few times and they have followed me. now I have built my own workshop. It's 20'x12'x8' outside, fully insulated and sound proofed. in winter 1kW heats it ok. lighting is 10x50W halogen plus 2 magnifying lamps. 16x13A sockets. if I would change anything then I would treble everything. light, power and square footage are like clamps, you can't have too many!! since joining this site I have been amazed and humbled by the fabulous models you guys have crafted in small garden sheds, bedrooms and even kitchen tables. when I built my workshop I kept photo record of the build. would anyone be interested and if so where and in what form would I post it?
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Hi Jerry
We love sheds ---------- There's always plenty of interest in what the other guy has to hide away in.
There are plenty of articles on shed and workshop builds. Have a look around and join in please.
Ken
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Hi
My workshop is 10mtrs x 7mtrs
Underfloor heating
Daylight lighting
Powerpoints to spare
And do know what I still can't make a decent model
So its not the workshop that makes the model
Fifie
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ok ken here's a start. planning consent obtained, footings dug, services in, wood cut to size and stacked ready late november 0900 saturday morning. this is a family affair.
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Ooow planning permission - I knew I had forgotten something!!
Geoff
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Wow Jerry, that's a serious dockyard in progress there ! Please show the complete build O0
Fifie: An artists studio is a retreat for inspiration and creativity. The quality of many of the models I have seen are so drool-worthy, but that has not diminished my desire to keep improving and learn from others. The creativity and improvisation employed is often amazing, especially when built on challenging slipways.
I have yet to see a workbench equipped with a couple of yellow Harland & Wolff cranes, but having said that someone will now probably post photos, remote controlled on OO gauge tracks . . .
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ok geoff, bobk et al had a few scoops so should be more equolent now. glad to see we've started something. reading on from last post:-
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geoff as an aside, I enjoyed a lovely night in amble 2/3 years ago whilst taking mcs shakespeare from bridlington to aberdeen. the fishermen in the local were very helpful with what time I could get out next am. I added an hour as there was a bit of swell running and still touched bottom a couple of times on the way out. I don't do much around the uk but have done a fair amount of work for mcs. took the nikki from gib to dubai, then worked on the world island project in her for three tours. unfortunately the stress of the job proved too much for me healthwise and I had to admit defeat. those guys really work hard and were very helpful and suportive to me. I cannot thank them enough. they know who they are. I was with mcs marlene to den helder for sale. my first reason for getting into modelling was making parat as I had driven her, but then I found tito neri which I was mate on when we took her from norway to venezuela and now I see there is a kit for marlene so realised I couldn't afford to keep up. all my life I have loved steam, the sound, the smell, the taste the sensation of heat on your face. It's really alive, so I have ordered the TVR1ABB and am continually listening for the postie or courier. I have a delivery about the 18th from cheoy lee shipyard Hongkong to Panama via Honolulu and will take the instructions with me!!
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Hi Dickie
Looks more like one of Steves 1:50 scale hulls, 1100 mm. long rather than 800 mm.
I like the rudders.
Have you chosen a name yet to add to the list?
"Armidale Class Patrol Boat - Names Register"
If you want more detail plans, send me a pm.
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near the end of saturday
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sunday evening, losing light. one big wooden box with a butyl rubber roof glued on. all the family helpers scarpered and left me on my own to finish workshop over the next 5 weeks.
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Looks nice & cosy Jerry O0
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Hi Dickie
Looks more like one of Steves 1:50 scale hulls, 1100 mm. long rather than 800 mm.
I like the rudders.
Have you chosen a name yet to add to the list?
"Armidale Class Patrol Boat - Names Register"
If you want more detail plans, send me a pm.
Hi Brian, definitely 1:72 scale. Dont know which one its going to be yet. Will do some more when I am up to it.
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the next day, (monday) I cut out the holes for all doors and windows with router. this only took about 10 minutes. doors and windows were in by lunchtime.
it took me a good few days to staple the membrane to the osb and then the stainless steel expanded mess over the membrain. I remember using 7000 s/s staples. I couldn't move my hands for a week.
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wiring and insulation next before dry lining.
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Just an update on my new Shipyard: The small workbench area is now complete and work on the submarine can restart. Many thanks for all the tips and advice everyone.
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Still a lot to do on the opposite side, veneer resurfacing of the CAD workstation bench, cupboards, shelves, a lot more sockets, and organising enough daylight strip lighting to make detail working possible. At present the single ECO friendly ceiling bulb is about as much use as a 1/96 scale masthead lamp. I am also taking on board ideas from the current "Chit Chat" "Workshop" theme.
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Going off the radar for 2 months. Delivering tug Farfan from hongkong to panama via Honolulu. Google cheoy lee farfan. Ttfn.
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Bob's Shipyard - now open for model making.
Update on my conversion of the old 'office' into a more practical area for working on model boats. Thanks again for all the tips and suggestions.
As pictured below, the old CAD workstation bench has been veneered in pine and given 3 coats of yacht varnish. Two cheap cupboards connected with shelving for my component organisers and other bits, with two small strip lights under for when I need them. A new 4 ft strip light to replace the single Eco (almost zero light) ceiling bulb. All tubes are 'daylight'.
9 sockets over this bench, plus the 6 on the small worktop opposite. Should be enough ok2.
I am using cut-down postal tubes for Plastruct etc, as suggested.
(http://s2.postimage.org/a2xzhnvo/shipyard_7.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/a2xzhnvo/)
To do: A matching extended pine worktop for the PC area, door knobs, and a nautical looking clock. I am still searching for a door plate that says "Shipyard, managers office" or something similar.
Some of the storage space is for non boat stuff that needs to stay, but at least it has 'tidy' potential. I am no longer limited to just short sessions on the dining table, having to pack away each evening. No TV yet, but I have the computer here for research, and this Forum of course !
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Nice drydock!
Just an observation about all the sockets some guys have put in, you should be careful how many you put on a spur - any more than 2 double sockets can lead to problems.
There should be a fuse on the cable from the ring to the sockets on the spur so as not to allow overloading the cable.
Imagine the scenario - socket cabling from fusebox/distribution box is 2.5mm twin and earth rated at 32 amps. Each socket is rated for 13a max, so its easy to see with only 2 double sockets you get a POTENTIAL max current of 52amps - way above the cable rating, hence the need for a fuse.
I am not a sparky, but have been advised on what I have said above.
Ian
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Well said Ian, very true. A good point raised. Thanks.
In this case the 'source' is a double wall socket on the ground floor ring main, with two paths back to the mains distribution panel. Each of the wall mounted extension leads has a separate fused plg with a short reasonably rated cable.
Where one has to be very sensible with extension leads is being careful what you plug into them and how many at a time. Almost all the intended loads will be quite low. Chargers for both the ship and TX batteries, occasional use of 10W strip lights, plus either OR a small dremel or soldering iron. Computer & peripherals frequently require several sockets, although the combined load is low.
If I need the big Black & Decker drill then everything else is off, especially the PC.
Having multiple strips of sockets gives me flexibility as to where I plug them in. You will note I have a gap near the wall to stow excess lengths of cable when in use on the bench.