one of them spoken to on sky tonight said "i'm getting my taxes back" as she looted a branch of Currys.... yeah like Currys has anything to do with taxes...
just an excuse for violence and theft , send in the army , read the riot act and round these criminals up
Shoot the 'blinking!' lot of them :police: :police: :police:
Am I the only one who finds tonight's reports absolutely appalling.
Am I the only one who finds tonight's reports absolutely appalling.No, I don't think so...................Camerooooon has had to cut short his holiday, as has the Home Sec and Borris
A significant proportion of the local population seems to be engaged in gratituous arson, violence and looting.
The rioters all look young, so what are their parents doing when they come home with the stolen goods ?
Good morning,
I know, as someone from abroad, I shouldn't embark on this thread on a highly charged "domestic" topic.
Unfortunately, I missed our German news yesterday because I came home from work quite late and was then chased by my wife through our garden with some nasty lumberjack work until dusk.
But I do listen to the BBC World Service always when riding in my car to the train station to catch my train to work.
This morning they have reported there that last night saw the most severe and unprecedented riots in London, especially in and around Hackney.
If I remember correctly they had an interview with some kind of inter-racial arbiter/mediator (I assume social worker)
who confirmed that those rioters couldn't be related to any ethnic minority and that they "hijacked" the original motivation (i.e. the (alleged?) shooting of a black guy by a police officer) and were mere "copycat rioters".
It's amazing to me and very interesting to find such a thread in a model boating forum, albeit in its chit chat section.
But on the other hand it seems fitting and obliged to the Mayhem part.
I'm convinced that in a German model makers' forum such a thread wouldn't enjoy any longevity and soon be banned/purged by the site's moderators.
I'm also - excuse my putting it - "amused" to read various lighthearted comments to pull in the army to deal with the mob, irrespective how justified this might be.
Maybe because of our history or grotesque common PC such suggestions would immediately disavow the person and defame them to harbour neo-fascist attitudes.
Regards
Ralph
Send the army in.
My stepson had an idea.... strategically placed snipers on the rooftops
Couple of shots into the crowd will soon send them running home
Is your stepson President Assad? %)
It would not surprise me if there were more copycat riots elsewhere giving more opportunities to loot before this eventually quietens down.RIM the maker of Blackberries have said they will be helping the police in identifying rioters
Problem is they are better organised this time with mobiles and blackberries to keep contact with other likeminded idiots.
Thank heavens my days as a Bobby are long gone - I remember the last riots in North Tyneside.
Geoff
For a start, the govt. shuold insist on shutting down the social networking sites these people are using to communicate,
Bring back the cat and public floggings for those found guilty :police:
Daughter found this on facebook, seems some people are making light of the situation.Borris will try to get publicity any way he can :((
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To me one of the main problems is the Police poor "clear-up rate".
There is little chance of them all being caught and if they are a small slap on the wrist so as not to impede their "Human Rights"
Rights without any responsibility of course.
Bob
Unfortunately Bob, that's the fault of the Courts. Two things cops need in court is proof and a judge with b*lls to deliver a stiff sentence. Another thing that needs to be done is for prisons to actually resemble prisons - not holiday camps or 5 star hotels. Remove all the playstations, tv and 'perks'. You do the crime then you should forfeit most normal rights when in jail - and "xxxxx" european law and all that human rights b*llsh*t.
My wife nearly choked on her tea when they were talking on the news about how all these b*llicks where communicating with each other via blackberries etc. We work and can't afford them so how the heck are they if they are one the dole. I remember a while back where David Cameron said that he was going to ensure that the maximum benefit tarrif going into a house was something like £500 - I bl**dy work and don't even earn that a week >>:-(
Its no wonder we've so many sponger on the dole. They're having a laugh at us muppets who work
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since i was 16 ive worked im now 25 and in that 9 year time gap ive had 10 careers all ending up to nothing. in the last 2 years ive been made redundant 3 times. When i was at school we were taught by the elders that computers and college education was our future, this advice proved to be fruitless in the long run because the generation that told us to educate is also the generation that employs us. Employers dont want educated people they want people with experience. So how is someone like me suppose to get experience if people wont employ me to gain it? Im a doley bum and im not proud of it. Im a trained mechanical engineer and in this town is becoming less and less required. Unemployment is massive because the hole town is supported on the back of the steel works. Soon this year 1500 people will be made redundant so when i apply for a job what chance in hell have i got angainst another 1000 people all with 20 years experience under there belt? Ive personally never known anyone get 500 pound a week benefit, i do know many people however who have had to sell there belongings just to eat though.
in order to obtain law someone must break the law and wash away the vermin in a flood of lead
Bring back National Service !!!!
Teach them respect and discipline, their parents obviously did not.
Before we get to the stage of arming all Policemen and letting them be judge, jury & executioner (fine until you get a copper who's having a bad day and you've parked badly), here's a thought:
since i was 16 ive worked im now 25 and in that 9 year time gap ive had 10 careers all ending up to nothing. in the last 2 years ive been made redundant 3 times. When i was at school we were taught by the elders that computers and college education was our future, this advice proved to be fruitless in the long run because the generation that told us to educate is also the generation that employs us. Employers dont want educated people they want people with experience. So how is someone like me suppose to get experience if people wont employ me to gain it? Im a doley bum and im not proud of it. Im a trained mechanical engineer and in this town is becoming less and less required. Unemployment is massive because the hole town is supported on the back of the steel works. Soon this year 1500 people will be made redundant so when i apply for a job what chance in hell have i got angainst another 1000 people all with 20 years experience under there belt? Ive personally never known anyone get 500 pound a week benefit, i do know many people however who have had to sell there belongings just to eat though.
sweeper. good idea about dropping the human rights act and bringing back real punishments. better still drop the whole eu that way british people might be able to get a job in there own country.
phil
Yes, but who would harvest the food grown in East Anglia?
The indigenous population jobseekers refuse to do it.
Ned
Royal Navy 1959-1982
Worked ever since and retiring at the end of the month after
a working life of 52 years
I don't know if you have heard of the e-petition to have anyone on benfits caught rioting
to have all benefits stopped?
apparently if it gets 100,000 signatures it has to be debated in parliment it has 78,000 at present
I tried but apparently due to high demand cant get access
but here is the link
http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions?order=desc&sort=count&state=open (http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions?order=desc&sort=count&state=open)
There are some interesting comments on vigilantism.Not if you are a farmer in Norfolk if I remember. >:-o
But if the Police are unable to assist or simply stand by watching, what is the alternative?
people are entitled to protect their safety and property.
Colin
Dear Treeboa,
There is an alternative to Nat.Serv., and it could be based on the same principals as Nat.Serv..
Two years compulsory working for the Forestry Commission, Environment Agency (& similar), County Councils, and certain Inds. and businesses. As with Nat.Serv., those on the scheme would be moved to an entirely different area for the duration, would be accommodated and fed in/from Service style units, and would receive a nominal sum for a weekly spend. The penalties for AWOL and other misdemeanors would be the exact same as if it was Service Nat.Serv..
Basic, relatively easy to implement, a training/work experience (which would come as a bit of a shock to the system to some), and an immediate workforce for those mentionion above that presently are cutting back. Privileges could be offerred to those make an effort to do well. The only exemption from taking part would be absolute proof of already having a job or definite prospects of getting one - but if after a period of time they did not have a job, into the scheme they would go. Anyone on any benefits for longer than twelve months would automatically be in the scheme.
All this is a basic seed, but it is a workable scheme... and a scheme where all and everybody would gain.
Regards, Bernard
Korky,
My wife and I visited Vancouver about this time last year and had a great time in a civilised city. However it was only a few months ago that you had rioting of your own when the local hockey(?) team lost to someone else. A lot of people over here felt very surprised and shocked by that - not something you associate with Canada.
You have these lawless elements everywhere, sometimes they get out of control.
Colin
Sorry, thought you'd signed it Brian of Vancouver. That's the sort of thing that happens when people use aliases on Forums. Confusing.
Still happened in Canada though and there are reports that gang violence is spilling over in Gold Coast, Australia - not far (relatively spaking) from where Peter Fitness lives.
Colin (real name)
Not inferring that Peter is involved in this sort of nefarious activity are you ?
Not if you are a farmer in Norfolk if I remember. >:-o
So the solution is more riots combined with snippers on rooftops. That will cut the surplus population !
You want to train these guys to use guns and other weapons properly... :o
So the solution is more riots combined with snippers on rooftops. That will cut the surplus population !
It is bad news indeed. There has been shooting in Tooting, arson in Arsenal, looting in Luton and stealing in Ealing.
Ladies in Bucks are advised to stay indoors tonight.
Meanwhile in court this morning, Wayne Jason Chav, 24, of Toxteth had to explain how he covered 100 metres in 10.2 seconds whilst carrying a 60 inch plasma TV whilst at the same time being in receipt of disability benefit.
Which "guys" are these you mention D ?
Korky... I was just thinking... that all this talk of national service and the army is probably not such a good idea; if you end up making these "young people" more proficient with weapons...
Me I would put them in orange boiler suits with the words SCUM on the back,chain them together and get them to clean up the mess.. Just as they do in some states in the USA..
Whichever way you prefer to look at it....I somehow think that the following doesn't make easy reading somehow !!
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and as for the the punishment angle ......simples
Bung the male offenders in a wooden shed
Tie 'em to a chair
Nail their wi**y to the chair
Give 'em a sharp knife
Set the hut afire
Instant Contraception....simples innit ?
After looting Ladbrokes and losing £50
24 Dublin rioters also looted Argos this afternoon - last message was they were still waiting at Delivery Point C1 for the goods....
Yep! Pink - with tassels....Nothing wrong with the old mailbag material with broad arrows stencilled on in black...do-gooders might approve if they did it themselves in the art class.
“Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits”
I have been known to be cynical at times, Oh yes I have, but I will be listening closely to the extenuating circumstances surrounding a female social workers "Not Guilty" plea to handling 4 TV's, an electric drill and various other pieces of electrical equipment from their very recent disappearance from her local branch of Curry's.
I've Said on other forums and this one many times, It's always someone elses kids.
Regards Ian.
A 15-year-old boy who was pictured trying to prise open shutters of a shop in Salford has been arrested after his mother handed him in to police.
Of what the, Khmer Rouge or the KGB or perhaps the Spanish Inquisition
Geoff
When these idiots are caught,send them to afganistan instead of the troops.They wont be so clever out there
A lot probably came from there in the first place,or other countries,and our benefit system isnt paying the scum enough
Just listened to the muppet who said it was payback for him not getting a job in the comet store where he left in his CV.Don't agree...the police made it themselves.BY.
Won't or shouldn't take the cops long to identify him if comet can give the cops access to CV's {-)
Its like a badge of honor this looting. >>:-(
I need a new radio system. Wonder should I start a riot near a store and loot one
I can't see a solution to this. If you stop benefits etc, there will be more looting and more riots but for the law abiding citizens, it looking like we are the mugs working.
The government have made a complete Ar*e of this
Declan
Is German capitalism any different from American capitalism ? Is there a better spread of wealth across its population.... ;) Are their rich so much poorer than the American or the UK richI have been living in Germany for over 35 years and I have come to the conclusion that Germany is controlled, not by the Government ( Mutti Mercle) but by about 100 top Bankers and Industriliasts, they control all the money and The Cabinet does what they wish. They are faceless, shy from the Media, and control the Justice System. If any are suspected of corruption the case disappears in a welter of paperwork and closed Court hearings. Convictions are rare, if not non excistant..
Capitalism is now a world system the Americans are just part of it...
I have been living in Germany for over 35 years and I have come to the conclusion that Germany is controlled, not by the Government ( Mutti Mercle) but by about 100 top Bankers and Industriliasts, they control all the money and The Cabinet does what they wish. They are faceless, shy from the Media, and control the Justice System. If any are suspected of corruption the case disappears in a welter of paperwork and closed Court hearings.
Is German capitalism any different from American capitalism ?Not much, but there are subtle differences.
Is there a better spread of wealth across its population.... ;)We were hit by the crisis almost as hard as other nations.
Are their rich so much poorer than the American or the UK richSeems that the upper and lower ends aren't that pronounced.
Capitalism is now a world system the Americans are just part of it...A great contributing factor to the financial meltdown can be found in the totally unregulated markets of Anglo-American provenience for collateralized debt obligations and other highly obscure derivatives that allowed to hide those subprime mortgages.