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The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: Jerry C on August 10, 2011, 09:14:10 am
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This is my build of a 1:40 scale Abeille Liberty , at this scale it works out at 2 metres long.
This photo gives a good idea of size (De walt drill for scale).
The first few photos are of the building of the plug for moulding in fibreglass.
NB: The forum had a bit of a meltdown a while ago,
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Building board set out with brackets in place and ribs cut out of 9mm mdf
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I notice that you are using MDF board. As this is a heavy absorbent wood, have you considered the lighter plywood instead ?
Ken
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looking forward to follow this build, make sure to supply us with enough pictures if you can. Excellent choice of boat.
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Hello tug kenny , because this is only the plug or master it will never see water (hopefully)
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one side of ribs done (nice and quick with a nail gun)
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nice progress there, you're a fast builder. Or maybe I'm just very slow.
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Ribs on both sides , first blocks of foam on bow.
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hi minime , Im a cabinetmaker by trade and have a hard time getting out of the habit of going as fast as possible to keep a boss happy, plus I have a nice set of tools and a habit of forgetting about the world when im boatbuilding.
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ah that explains it then. Oh well I guess I should go do some building myself, instead of sitting here admiring your work...
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thanks minime I appreciate your admirings (of the build I mean , nothing weird)
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foam blocks added all over, looks appaling but bear with me.
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starting to show her true shape (I love my hot wire cutter)
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Nice, that method your using seems promising for my next build, needless to say I'll be following closely.
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Wow, this will be interesting. What a beast!
It's a nice looking tug.
Keep up the good work!
Hama
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Yeah looking good will follow with interest.
Regards Tony
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Wow, Looking great already:) i will be following this log with great interest.
Will you be installing all Bow and Stern thrusters? :}
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Bow and stern thrusters are definately on the cards if finances allow , checked the keel width yesterday and the largest raebosch thruster fits perfectly , only downside is that they cost about $120.00 each down here.
I have seen a couple of other builds where water pumps have been used , might look into that idea.
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a bit of sanding and PRESTO its a boat.
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blocking in the stern to allow for shaping.
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another shot of the stern with blocks ready for shaping.
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Your making good progress :-)) Stern and bow thrusters will be amazing. I know, they are very expensive, but some people have also used a racing prop on the end of a flexishaft mounted through a piece of PVC pipe.They might be a bit more powerful. but definately worth looking into.
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Nice progress, yesterday you had you had a plan on a board, today you have a hull.
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things will probably slow down a bit while I try to get that stern just right , I must also add that these are the nicest set of boat plans ive ever worked with , the ribs were right and flowed straight off the plan with no modifying , I dont know about you guys but I havent found any other model plans where one or two ribs seem to be from a completely different boat when it comes planking time.
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Hi
Very nice start to your build.
I have seen this boat built before. For the life of me I can not find the bookmark/link.Any way it was on a picasa web album like this one
http://picasaweb.google.com/105202506859524458881/NewProjects?gsessionid=DWnOge8mnp2rWvx_j6UFUQ.
May be Umi or PeterS or xtian 29 might have a link to it.
John
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I have that site saved to favourites (dont know how to put the link up) the guys name is peter and his build was part of the inspiration for my build , that and the clip on u tube with the real thing pounding through heavy seas.
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todays progress , rinigng float a boat in the morning about propellors probably raboesch 149-19 and 20s
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very happy with the bulbous bow
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general view after a lot of sanding , cornice adhesive makes a great cheap filler
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cornice adhesive makes a great cheap filler
I would have never thought of that! Good one! :-))
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Nice! Love that bulbous bow too.
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A layer of pva glue and masking tape to isolate the foam from the resin (used packing type foam which is much cheaper than surfboard foam but melts under polyester resin)
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a layer of fine matting and resin will seal the plug , then imperfections will be sanded , then the whole thing will be prepped for spraying with 2 pack undercoat
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great work, I like it, still watching with great interest.
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one more coat of resin and a coarser matting followed by more sanding than I ever want to do on a model ever again.
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good looking build well done were abouts in Tasmania are you tassie48
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hi tassie48 im in devonport, i see youre based in hobart , do you sail with david hunts crew ?
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a couple of coats of primer , some bog and a lot more sanding and its ready for its last coat of primer then some high gloss 2 pack
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heres one of my many side projects , a sea helper from model boat plans , this plug will be painted at the same time as the Abeille
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Hello
Nice job Mermod,
Take care on the real hull, there is no visible line between the rounded part of hull and the bottom part. the rounded part and flat part are tangentials without separation line
The stern is not exactly like yours and more "rounded" when sideview - The line between the side plate and bottom plate is close to disapear when approching to the axis.
(http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/09/08/11090810520195497.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/09/08/110908105241784671.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
(http://nsa28.casimages.com/img/2011/09/08/110908105333927939.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
A+ Xtian
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Mermod I forget to say : I'm out of home for a while but I will send you the details picture CD + drydock pics when back home .
A+ Xtian
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Hello again xtian , so good to hear from you , thanks for the advice on the stern , the wife noticed the transition was about right earlier on and gleefully said I told you so. Ill have to fix it on the finished hull, was also wondering if there is a clear shot of where the shaft exits the hull and also the bracing for the nozzle as I can find heaps of general views but nothing specific to theese items.
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Thought you guys might like to know how this build started, I have a good friend named big steve who is an absolutely one eyed speed fanatic when it comes to rc boats , I think he has about 4 whipper snipper boats and to many nitros to count , in the 6 or so years Ive known him Ive heard just about every tugboat related insult known to man , most of these insults come about just after i push his boat back in with one of my tugs.
One morning I was doing the usual flick through the internet looking at powerboats on youtube with big steve when we came across a clip of the full size Abeille Bourbon pounding through heavy seas , that was the moment when steve mentioned that if I could get plans for it that he might have one, thinking that plans would be impossible to get hold of.
From that moment on it became my mission to annoy the crap out of steve by finding the plans.
After a few months searching the net I discovered that MRB in France actually sold plans for it but I couldn't get any response to my emails and couldn't work out how to use their website, I knew of one hobbyshop in the UK that used to be able to get hold of mrb plans but found out that they no longer traded.
After a bit more searching I discovered a nifty little website called Model Boat Mayhem and made contact with xtian29
He was helpful beyond belief and helped me acquire the plans Thanks again xtian.
So Big steve now had no excuse, we measured my trailer and decided that 2 metres would just fit nicely.
We decided to do a fibreglass mould for the hulls, cast all the fittings in resin and I would do the cad files and laser cut decks, accommodation etc.
I then had a phone call from another good friend we call Mr V, I had shown him the youtube clip earlier and had decided if we went ahead that he would want one as-well.
Then another friend Kiwi saw the plans , he had been considering building the billings smit rotterdam and we had been ribbing him for months about building a boat , he also had to have one.
So we are now about to build 4 x 2 metre long models (cool or what)
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The plug came back from the painters yesterday......very shiny and looking huge.
The last photo is of my star perseus I put a coat of primer on while i was waiting for the plug, not relevant to the build but it came up so well I had to put it up.
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Wow that hull looks great! It really is a fine looking boat. Have you seen my post about Billing boats are releasing a kit of the Abeille? Might be interesting to you, though it's 1/75. That other boat of yours looks excellent! What is it, have you showed it to us before? Good luck on your build!
All the best!
Hama
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Just the normal GREAT WORK out of TASMANIA would expect any thing less tassie48
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Fantastic finish on the Hull. %%
Seems a pity to cut holes in it for the thrusters. {-)
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Hi brian B6 , the really sad part is that the plug usually winds up damaged and discarded after molding.
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Started making the masters for the nozzles today.
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Looks great so far wish i had space to attempt something like that!!
Are you producing this as a kit?
Mat
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maybe... probably.... not sure about the copyright implications but i would like to offer it as a semi kit at some stage.
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maybe ... probably.. not sure about the copyright implications but i would like to do it as a semi kit
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Mermod any updates on the model yet????????????????????/.
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sorry guys, no updates just yet I have been flat out trying to get my star perseus ready , the blower motors have been replaced with 510 kv brushless motors, she runs well in the test tank but I'm busting for a sail on our local water, oh and I'm also trying to develop a range of laser cut fittings ( watertight doors, handwheels , hatches etc ) but as soon as this is under control i will be straight back onto the abeille.
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G'day Mermod,
Very pleased to have run into you while down at the pond. After you mentioning to me about your build I thought that I'd look it up. What can I say other than Wow impressive!!
I shall be keeping a close watch on this page to see the progress.
Cheers
Bill
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Finally back onto the big girl, here is the plug all waxed up and the mold seperation line in place.
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Hi Mermod, beautiful work & a terrific boat you have going there. I too am interested in a semi kit or what ever you may come up with. I think it will be first class all the way , count me in NOW. I will be glued to this space watching your progress, thanks so much for sharing. Mick B.
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THAT IS STUNNING !!!!! WOW!! :-)) :-)) :-)) %% %% %% %%
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Thank for the positive comments guys , they are very much appreciated, I will definitely keep you guys informed as far as a kit goes, at the moment the guys down here are treating it like the models that come in the magazines, so as one part is finished or as they can afford it they purchase the next bit and do a bit more.
As for anyone outside of Australia I plan to glass in a central separation bulkhead so the hull will arrive in two parts that need to be bolted back together, this should make them easier to send.
By the way irishcarguy if you look at the last photo you can just see the lathe I was talking about in a separate post on small lathes.
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Yes I can see the lathe in the background. I am learning to use mine .I have had it for about two months now. By the way my name is Mick, not a bad name for an Irishman. I think you are using a wood lathe to turn the Korts though. I think you will be surprised with the demand you will get for a kit of your boat when you have it available, it looks like you believe in quality & it shows. Mick B.
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finally onto the gel coat.
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mold finally finished, just a quick sand to get rid of the sharp bits, at this stage the plug is still in there and the whole thing will be left alone to harden for a few days, at this stage it is very hard not to get excited and pull it out but the mold will distort if removed to early.
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Nice to see we are getting standard "Yellow & BlacK" bins across the country
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your bins are just like ours :-))
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And their like ours too, somebody is making a lot of money, My grandfather always said there is money in dirt. The mould is looking great, Mick B.
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heres the first hull, a few small blemishes but overall pretty good.
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from the beginning of this build we were placing bets as to whether or not it would fit in my test tank, width wouldn't be a problem but we weren't sure about depth (the tank being curved on the bottom) so we sat the first hull in the water and then hunted for 80kgs of ballast...........luckily that sort of weight was easy to find.
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looking good the model that is so thats the owner/builder well done mate put me down for one please tassie48
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Presumably you will make the ballast removable? 80kg is a heck of a lot of weight to carry. What do you think you'll use as ballast when the model is done?
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hello 110samec , my speed controlls are capable of about 40volts so ill fill it up with as many batteries as is practical, a 12 volt 24 amp gel cel is around 20kg so a few of them should just about do it.
Also I plan to make a fairly substantial trolley that it can live on and be launched from, Ive already had one lot of back surgery and dont really want any more.
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Hi Mermod, don't you know you should wear a life jacket when doing tests like that. LOL. It is enormous, I did realise that it was so large, It is coming along very well.WOW. Mick B.
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Mermod,
Mate she's lookin good. :-)) :-)) :-))
Really like the novel, adjustable, self righting ballast. {-) {-) {-)
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Thanks guys, now the first hulls done I can really get going with it, as for size the wife says im crazy, still not quite sure where im going to put it when its finished but boy its going to look good in the water.
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Hey Phil,
Looks frigging awesome .
Bet Keith and Steve will be shocked at the actual size and the ballast required for trim.
Rung you before I left the country but kept getting your voicemail.
Will it be alright if I come down before I fly out again early January?
Btw, I drilled out the other 2 shaft positions. Like you said to Keith "don't know how you work without a Dremel". Well I'm so thankful I have mine made easy work of the sanding and grinding .
Hope you,and the family have a great Xmas .
Cheers
Bill
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Hi bill , I have a bit of a love / hate realationship with that phone, probably easyer to email or pm me.
How did you go with the position of the a frame supports for those shafts, I think that will be the next interesting job, did you get that deck cut out?
Just give us a yell when youre ready.
By the way, I found a bag of your fittings on the driveway the other day, I think they might be air vents of some kind.
Hope you also have a good christmas and get alot of boat related prezzies.
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Hello
Very nice work with the hull but may I say it's the simplest part of the model ?
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Xtian
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Finally back onto the abeille, here is the nozzle and its support in mdf ready for casting, and the beginnings of the master for the rudder.
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seems like your normal fine work great to see you back into it keep going mate
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Sorry for this out of subject comment but I was laughing so much with the Tassie48 "motto" never trust a captain that enjoys swimming
Have you nozzle pictures from other angles ?
Xtian
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Hi xtian, I will take a couple more pics for you, I have found it really difficult to get shape of the supports for the nozzles but think i'm close, there is no detail for theese on any plan so im working from your photos.
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I'm happy as I took these pictures specialy to help modellers like you :-))
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a few more shots of the nozzle, rudder and support.
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Hi Mermod
THX for "beeing your inspiration" ok2 %)
This is a great hull!
A BIG one!
Thinking about my 1,6 m , your 1/40 must be a MONSTER !!!
As I can see, Xtian helped out with some pictures. Maybe I can help later with some details.
Peter
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Hi peter , love your build, think i'm going to need all the help I can get.
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just a bit more detail before moulding.The depth indicators are left proud and the background is laser engraved away.
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sprayed and test fitted once more before moulding.
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Nice work on the depth indicators
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Thanks steve, it was tedious but fun
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Todays job was fitting the bow and stern thruster tubes, found some fibreglass tube I bought from a scrap yard about 8 years ago that had the perfect internal diameter.
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Here is the first set of resin castings for the rudder, nozzzle and its support ( ignore the grubby finger marks)
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Hi Mermod
I just want to say I have been watching your build and enjoying it.
It was only when I saw the hull next to the wheelie bin that I
realised just how big it is. Brilliant - can't wait for more.
Dave
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Thanks Dave, it's comments like yours that make the posts worthwhile, I'm still fairly new to the whole forum thing but its added a whole new dimension to my hobby, as for the size, the wife still thinks I'm mad but I cant wait to see four of them in the water.
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added a whole new dimension to my hobby.
Yep ............... and a case of wine is much nicer shared with friends :-))
Plus all your hard work mightn't get the appreciation it deserves
otherwise. People see your finished product but not how you have
mastered techniques and found solutions. I'm learning from all the
builds ............ and from some of the arguements too - they provide
some options. Mayhem is generally a very friendly place to be. O0
Dave
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Hello Mermod
Very good work as usual. You used teh same diameter for the bow and aft transverse thruster ?
Have you seen there is now Algerian navy sister ships !
http://inverclydenow.com/news/pictures/ships-boats-and-maritime-images/tugs/other-tugs/el-moundjid-11385
Xtian
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Thats looking really good, keep up the good work.
Ian
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Thanks for the comments Ian.
Xtian, would you believe we discussed the fact that the bow thruters were larger when the build started but I clearly got carried away and made them all the same size, thanks for picking up on that, it's now been fixed, only wish i'd read your post before glassing them in, oh well nothing an angle grinder won't fix.
I now tell people that my quality controll team is based in france, you should see the looks I get!
please dont ever hesitate to point out mistakes like that, thanks
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Bilge keels cut from 1.5mm brass, no details for these on the plan so i've had to wing it using the photos from Xtian , I find that you can follow the weld lines on the full size hull to approximate where things should go, also does anyone know what the two openings are on the starboard side just above the fromt of the bilge keel ?
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Hello
Quality Control ... ok it's fine for me and for this ship {-)
The two grids just over the starboard bilge keel are for seawater inflow : some onboard users like fire fighting or fresh water producer.
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Inside the hull there is a tranquilized box and the "users" pick a tubing on it - you can see the size of the box with the air outlets and water oulets ( used when the ship is drydocked to remove the rest of water inside the box and then when the ship come back to water, the air come out from this box via the upper holes)
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There is another seawater inlet on the starboard keel.
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Xtian
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mermod luv the 1-1 scale photos for reference thats great reference material haha looking good old mate keep up the great work looking forward to getting mine tassie48
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Hi Tassie48, you'll have to run your eye over it when you get down here, I'm casting multiples of everything so there will be plenty of bits.
Thanks Xtian for gettting back about the vents so quick, means I could get straight into it, using your photos I made a drawing in CAD then laser angraved the grate detail in some acrylic.
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Very nicely done Mermod.
Great quality control set up you have too :-))
Dave
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Been doing a work placement thing for my employment agency thats been slowing up the building but heres todays progress, the first deck support and the bilge keels are epoxied in place.
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a bit more framing for the deck, probably overkill but considering the overall expected weight a bit of stiffnes won't hurt.
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nice stern view looking good mate tassie48
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probably overkill
But it also looks so good - I like nice timberwork, and a smart interior.
Dave
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Thanks guys, as I mentioned before , I had a work placement thing at an aged care facility and one of my jobs was to remove an old laundry cupboard that just happened to have a nice tasmanian oak frame that was to be thrown out, needless to say it came home with me got cut up and poked through the thicknesser, by the time I got rid of the rebates and nail holes I was left with some lovely 20 x 30mm strips.
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Phew Mermod!!!
You should be glad it was only a 'placement' and not a 'placed in' {-) {-) {-)
Dave
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Really? do I come across as being that old ( if we had a doddery old emoticon I would use that here)
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Sorry Mermod your jpg1331 confirms you are'nt old enough yet -
neither am I, so I'm working hard on the dementure angle :-)) %%
Dave
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Im sure if more people knew the details of what we did for a hobby that there would be no argument about us being demented.
Oh and by the way, while I was there they recieved a new resident that had dementure, the scary part was that he was only 50.
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Spent my sunday laying up hull number 2, here's some pictures.
The discoloured spots in the hull are because I store my matting next to where I spray, the dark spots are acually antifouling red.
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sight for sore eyes #2 on the way down the slips tassie48
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number 2 out of the mould this morning ( this ones mine )
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And so the fleet starts to come together looking dam good mate how many do you plan to make tassie48
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Hi Tassie 48, have to build 1 complete for a customer, 1 complete for myself and supply a hull, fittings and laser cut parts for two other guys, oh and I beleive theres a guy on the gold coast that wants one aswell, Im trying to sell as many hulls as I can to fund the building of mine
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Just make sure that Gold Coast bloke gets one hear he plans to retire and build model boats this year,a complete build some lucky sod will have a turn key model to play with, allways good for bragging rights thats my build haha good to see you are back into it tassie48
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oh and I beleive theres a guy on the gold coast that wants one as well,
I believe theres guys all over the world that wants one Mermod, O0 :}
Would the shipping costs to UK be crazy? Don't answer if it means your
build thread might get whazzed across to the sales/manufacturing pages.
Dave
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Hello
Yep the postage is crazy for that size of hull but not so much if you use normal mail but that means you have to cut the hull in to parts to avoid the maximaum 46 inches long packet.
Yes I know it's looks crazy but it what I asked to an US shop for a hull ! Then applying a right procedure it tooks 2 hours to refit the hull in one piece.
Outside with some wood frame to align - masking tape outside to avoid polyester leak - then 4 layers 100gr fibre + resin - Of course no reinforced resin ouside to avoid a step but only a grey polyester putty to fill the gap and sandering : it's OK ! At the end of ther day my cutted hull was in the water for weight test.
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This hul is 52 inches but I've made the same for a 7 feet x-bow hull !
Xtian
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That then beggars the question, why don't model boat hull makers/manufacturers, make their hulls in two parts to aid shipping and postage world wide.
Think of all the extra sales etc
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I would be quite happy to run around the hull with a jigsaw if it helps anyone
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The guy that brought my HMAS SYDNEY FFG plans to cut and make two pieces easy for transport good idea for bigger hulls and would lead to more sales,Mermod make mine a one piece please no need to cut mine thank you and it does begger to differ why some companies do not make two piece hulls makes you think.tassie48
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I would be quite happy to run around the hull with a jigsaw
If you could just do that under a full moon and wearing only a silly hat - I'd buy the dvd {-)
Dave
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If you could just do that under a full moon and wearing only a silly hat - I'd buy the dvd {-)
Dave
Me to LOL {-) {-) {-)
Dave:)
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Started transferring sone of the measurements onto the computer for laser cutting, here is the first mdf template, I get it right in mdf first then cut in either acrylic or good quality ply.
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roughly in place.
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Still making templates but once its on the computer its easy.
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your flying through this biuld :-))
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not much to report, just a few more mdf teplates but its starting to look like a boat.
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glad to see the workshop has had a tidy haha just great I follow this build and well done mate tassie48
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Hi Mermod, your build is coming along very nice, In the background you have a lathe like mine. Have you seen the quick change tool post that is available for it ?. You will never use the original again if you get the quick/change one, it is a dream to use & very fast too. Mick B.
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G'day Phil,
You've certainly been doing a lot of construction in the last week since I was down. She's starting to show those beautiful lines
of the super structure.
Cheers
Bill
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Hi tassie 48, the workshops always a bit messy, im running out of room so i cant really clean up I can only move stuff around.
irishcarguy, thanks for the advice , would love a few more bits for the lathe but im still getting over the setup cost.
Bill, she is coming along ok, the plans are a bit vague when it comes to the upperworks so its becoming a compromise between the plans and the photos.
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The Bourbon is looking very good so far. Really interested to see the laser-cut superstructure coming together.
The other hull, the one you had cut in two from the US, is that one of Harbor Models' 'Invader' tugs?
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hi ZZ56 glad youre enjoying it, the othe hull pictures were put up by xtian29 so I dont know what it is but it does look good.
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a bit more added today, still only mdf templates
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That's one complicated set of templates Mermod
looks great - well done mate.
Bet you feel like you're getting somewhere now.
Dave
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Hello
Yes ZZ56 it's an Invader hull from Harbor Models cutted in two part the shipment USA/Europe fell down from 1100 us dollar to 65. As for more than 46 inches you have to use Fedex / UPS (Fedup as in the joke :D ) but cutted in two you can use regular postage system.
Nice idea Mermod to built a template superstructure. It looks good. Beleive me or not but I've seen many "strange looking wheelhouse" as it's not so simple to obtain each face size and angle !!
I'm impatient to see how you will built the model one. Nice thread and nice built
Xtian
PS Norseman : what about the flag, you are not searching for this Brest yachting burgee ? oups I gave a clue ;)
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Thanks guys, I wasnt looking forward to all those angles, even though the cutting is quick and easy with the laser you still have to measure off the plans and re-draw it all on the computer, with the wheelhouse I had a floor plan to work from , I knew the finished height and the overhang of the windows so it pretty much fell into place, ill try to put up a picture of the drawing process for this bit tomorrow, it might help someone.
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Stunning work........If I knew more about this type of vessell, I'd be chomping at the bit to buy a set from you.......unfortunately I know zilch......but I love what you are doing, .it is superb
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a picture of the drawing process
Any pics of the laser cutting? - I've never seen it done.
Do you ever stand there saying ' No, I expect you to die Mr Bond' {-)
Now I'm thinking of kids lasering Spiders in half ...... gotta go, getting silly
Dave
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Hi Dave, theres usually a reference to sharks with frickin laser beams on their heads as in Austin Powers, and I get asked if it would cut a finger off quite alot.
Its hard to get an idea of the cutting from a photo but if you look on you tube and search for Epilog Helix theres a few good videos on there, spiders, hmmm.
heres a good link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4A_zRPVjxc
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the model is taking shape looks good lots of detail in the bridge to be seen credit to your building skills tassie48
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Hi tassie48, Im not sure wether to have bridge detail inside or just go with blacked out windows, will have to wait and see when the time comes.
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How about you have bridge detail on your own but it's not part of the kit
Dave ............ not looked at the clip yet - not keen on spiders
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no spiders dave, well not many, but lots of laser cut stuff.
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Go for the detailed bridge internals. I am please I did on my Orca, it really finishes it off, and, you will be surprised how many people look in there. Also, go for proper control desk modelling - use fibre optics to get lights on the desks to simulate control lamps etc. Its worth the effort.
Ian
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Hi guys, just noticed tha since the site crash that my previous posts say posted by Jerry C , weird or what
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and now there are three.
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Oh No.....competition......I thought I was the only loony trying to build three boats the same at the same time.....good luck...they look fantastic.
neil.
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Hum hum
I well know one : the Abeille Bourbon, I also seen the second : the Abeille Liberté (take care she's not the Abeille Liberty as in the topic title) But what about this third one ? %% {-)
Maybe the first grey algerian navy ? Not so sexy colour scheme I think !
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/03/20/120320115746654992.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120320115746654992.jpg)
picture from Shipspotting.com http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1489131
Very good job :-)) ! How many of them you intend to build ?
A+ Xtian
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a grey navy one nice good job mermod or jerryc haha tassie48
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there you go tassie 48 , a nice grey one for you
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todays progress.
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mate thats great coming ahead in leaps and bounds good to see pictures as well tassie48
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started working out the rear decks today, the laser bed is only 610mm long so I have to put a join in.
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simulated reinforcing ribs and angled exhaust housing added today
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a few more mdf templates, just to make sure the curves are fair, Im hoping for a trip to Ulverstone on tuesday for a sheet of 3mm acrylic so I can get started on the finished product.
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I couldnt wait till tuesday, I had to find up some scrap 3mm and cut the window frames just to see how they come out.
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only a couple in place but very happy with the results
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Whoua :-))
Xtian
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Hi Mermod
just found you again post meltdown - great progress you are making :-))
Dave
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Hi xtian and Norseman, good to hear from you guys again, finishe cutting and assembling the rest of the wheelhouse frames today, now it really looks the part.
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What a sweet build thats great can not wait for the kit tassie48
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Thanks tassie48, I wonder if anyone from billings boats is watching this build as they were also going to release a kit ?
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Any Updates Mermod?
How are you doing in general
Dave
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Just started my first build today & this is an amazing build to watch.
Good Job!
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Hi Andycam, glad youre enjoying it.
good to hear from you Norseman, havent been posting recently due to waiting for materials, so just been molding extra sets of resin fittings and stuff for the guys, as for things in general, looks like were having another baby so its been doctors appointments every time we turn around, Ive given up trying to convert more people to model boats so im trying to breed some more instead, heres a couple of shots of the first four hulls together.
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What a great fleet can not wait to see them in the flesh soon
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Great work, well done.
Did you cut the bridge panels by hand or....? I had great difficulty cutting them for my Orca.
Those hulls could be sold as baby baths for boatmad dads :-))
Ian
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I see custom prams O0
You could get twins and a weeks shopping in one of them Mermod
Have you ever considered it might be twins? :o :o {-)
Dave
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Hi tassie48, not long now.
Thanks boatmadman, I now do 99.9% of my cutting on my laser, the best part with the bridge panels is that the clear glazing will be a press fit.
Hi norseman, no twins, already checked (not me personally , the doctor I mean) shes at 15 weeks now, we find out sex at 19weeks
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Had a bit of a play with the window openings in the hull today
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Hi Mermod
I've not seen those windows before - did you cast them?
Or do you have alink to them. Interesting item.
Dave
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The design is straight of the plan, I just laser cut 2 layers of 6mm clear acrylic and then after painting I have a clear insert that just drops in from the back.
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Ah - I always forget you are really Ernst Blofeld and have your own laser :}
Dave
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Dave don't you hate these people that have all the right tools & the skill to use them as well, You are doing a beautiful job Mermod & I am watching with lots of interest, Keep up the good work. Mick B.
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Hi Mick
I'd admire a guy with a pointy stick if he used it; but yes nice to have the right tools.
You also have to have a vision though and it doesn't have to be a grand one.
Mermod's build has been nice to watch and in an impressive scale - but I'm so glad
he didn't choose a catamaran.
Dave
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Cmon guys, youre going to give me a big head if you keep this up, not sure about the catmaran comment though, is that an in joke ?
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No Mermod - just two big hulls for every big boat - as if you aren't busy enough already.
hmmm, having said that, I wonder what the world's largest Catamaran is? :} ..................
http://www.allseas.com/uk/19/equipment/pieter-schelte.html due 2013 some pix and
animations to the right of page. A really big boy's build!!!
Dave
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HI Mermod
I have been watching this build and I must say you are doing a great build. I was wondering if you have seen this build
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1204131.
John.
Dave that link you posted was very very intresting. That is one very big boat. That test model must be 9m long wow
john
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Thanks cos918, glad youre enjoying it, yes I have seen that build before, he does a great job of it, probably easyer to transport than mine :} interesting to see he also uses acrylic sheet.
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Finally, I have some clear acrylic and start the actual superstructure, would you guys like a blow by blow account of the build in acrylic or have you seen enough of the mdf test? here's some piccies of the upperworks straight of the laser.
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Hi Mermod
Alll interesting stuff - you post it and I'll certainly read it.
I'm bound to learn something O0
Dave
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a bit more of the upper works in acrylic
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and a front on view
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looking GOOD MATE master at work
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been a bit busy with family life but heres the latest pictures
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that's beautiful mermod.........she really does look as though she could pull a supertanker.
brilliant. :-))
neil.
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Been a while since my last post, been renovating before the new addition to the family arrives, not much to report on the build of the Abeille but I did fire up the motors on the bench today, they seem very torquey on 24volt, very nice motors.
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Nice to see you Mermod - I'm looking forward to the eventual restart O0
Dave
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Topic name changed
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cool!!!
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Been quite a while but I'm back into it, here's a picture of the shaft assembly jig I knocked up to hold the shafts perfectly inline for silver soldering to the cross support.
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Finished product showing hoizontal and vertical bracing.
Tubes are (http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q760/Phillip_Sachman/DSCF1148_zpseb8ca19d.jpg)12mm stainless with bronze bearing housings, 12mm stainless bearings with 6mm shafts (not shown)
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Nice to see this on the go again Mermod
Can't wait to see it on the water.
Dave
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Hi Dave, it's been too long I know but life is getting back to normal now bubs a bit older, also I had a job, that slowed the models a bit but that evaporated like most employment down here at the moment, oh and I started a 14ft tug (must update that build aswell)
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and here's the jig for installing the windows nice and straight.
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A truly sad day today, Keith aka Kiwi who was one of the driving forces behind this build passed away yesterday, his was hull No3, It will be very difficult to continue this build without him as we would spend hours contemplating the photos just to work out the position of a single window, a truly great friend and I will miss him greatly.
Phill
(mermod)
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Hi Phill
So sorry to hear your good friend has passed on. It happened to me recently and I can't work on some things yet. Eventually I will and I am sure you will too, mainly because our friends would want that.
Dave
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Now the bench is empty I may be looking at a possible re-start on the Abeille project, another major catastrophe has hit the build, my 86 yo dad was helping tidy up the workshop and thought he could just re-locate the superstructure not realizing is was several layers stacked on each other but not yet glued so all of the previous work was smashed way beyond repair :( I wasn't too concerned untill I saw all those angled windows in pieces on the ground................ ah well here we go again.
And yes this is a bit of a bump so I can find it again when it comes time to start posting photos again.
Phill
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So sorry to hear of this latest set-back. I've been following your work and have been amazed at the quality.
Your poor old Dad must be feeling awful...
From what I've seen, on Mayhem, you have the ability to bounce back, as I'm sure you will. :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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So sorry to hear of this latest set-back. I've been following your work and have been amazed at the quality.
Your poor old Dad must be feeling awful...
From what I've seen, on Mayhem, you have the ability to bounce back, as I'm sure you will. :-))
Regards,
Too right they breed them tough in Tassie. O0 O0 :-)) :-))
They have to be because of those Tasmanian Devils roaming at large. <*< <*<
Ray.
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Those Devils are dangerous, 6ft tall huge teeth, glowing red eyes, still not game to let the dog roam at night :)
I wasn't too worried as all the files are saved on the computer but trying to explain that to a stressed 87yo isn't easy, ended up sitting him down with a nice cup of tea to calm his nerves.
Phill
oh and I'm only Tasmanian by marriage I'm actually a closet West Australian but they haven't noticed yet.
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So in reality you are a Sand gropher, AKA westerner not an easterner, as my wife's western Rellies, mainly around the Pilbara, would say.
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Yep, they were always called eastern stater's back home in Mandurah.
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I really must get around to getting my Tasmanian drivers license {-)
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:o :o Yes I see what you mean %% %% {-) {-)
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I understand completely, i've had a few set backs and many obstacles.
It does require extra determination and enthusiasm to get back on that horse. I had to be gentle with myself
You were doing such a cracking job, ill be glad to see get back onto it
All the best
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I have been just a little bit busy, all new parts cut and assembled in 3mm ply.
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Great to see your back at it Phill :-))
Regards,
Ray.
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Hello Mermod
What is the basic plan ?
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Hi Gazou, this builds been going on for a while now but the original plan is pictured waaaaaay back on the first page.
Phill
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Hello Phill
After seeing a Damen on your workbench - so nice result - but with the Abeille hull on shelf I'm happy to see your project back on track.
Xtian