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Dry Dock / Shipyard: Builds & Questions => Pleasure boats, Sports, Race, Power and Leisure Boats: => Topic started by: w3bby on March 12, 2007, 05:13:49 PM

Title: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: w3bby on March 12, 2007, 05:13:49 PM
 For those not on other forums....

Words not required, pictures speak for themselves, 51" so I guess 1300mm

(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/2664/mh19910vj2.jpg)

(http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/883/ec88355zb1.jpg)
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: omra85 on March 12, 2007, 06:45:40 PM
So DM's determined to keep his title then.
I wondered why he was still running tuned Zenoahs when CMB had brought out a 35cc sparky ???
I'm betting that's what's going in this!
With the price at 1300, it's no wonder he can't afford to buy the young lady a new pair of jeans ;D ;D
Danny
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on March 12, 2007, 07:09:45 PM
So DM's determined to keep his title then.
I wondered why he was still running tuned Zenoahs when CMB had brought out a 35cc sparky ???
I'm betting that's what's going in this!
With the price at 1300, it's no wonder he can't afford to buy the young lady a new pair of jeans ;D ;D
Danny
Why would he put a cmb or any other sparky in it when he mods a great zenoah,his zen 7 puts out 7.3 hp and beat boats running qd and cmb engines last year by 3 laps in a race in europe.ill bet you hes sticking another zen in it for sure.He told me on another site he made this one larger than the panther to make the boat more stable in rough water but made it very light too so ill bet its for his zen 7 .check it out here and read for yourself,not bad for a weedy engine when you consider this engine at under 350 can beat the cmb at nearly a thousand more.http://http://www.prestwich.ndirect.co.uk/zenoahmarineengines.htm
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: omra85 on March 12, 2007, 07:28:34 PM
Hi Martin
You may be right!  Apart from your video, I've never seen one of his PUM's go.  I did see a bloke in Wales last year with the CMB (which I believe he had just rebuilt after only a few months) but boy, did that boat go!  In Dave's hands - if he could keep it running - it could be lethal.
An Aussie, now in the USA, seems to support your idea.  He seems to have every motor available (including some VERY tasty twins).
Have a quick drool - I did ;D ;D
http://p067.ezboard.com/frcdragboatsfrm14.showMessage?topicID=3.topic&index=32 (http://p067.ezboard.com/frcdragboatsfrm14.showMessage?topicID=3.topic&index=32)

Danny
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on March 12, 2007, 07:42:19 PM
Hi danny which ausie are you talking about? matt was it(justaddwata) hes got more boats than anyone ive ever seen hes posted pics of his garage and he has boats stacked from floor to ceiling .Hes also one of the more knowledgable guys on rcu and hes run every motor going i think.back to that zen 7 its the power to weight thing i guess as the zen is a very lite engine compaired to the qd and cmb gassers.i could be wrong but i think glenn has the zen 7 in his miami?.i know the americans find it hard to beleive dave can get 7.3 hp from his engine but maybe theyre jealous,he says the secret is a small prop to let the engine reach its maximum rpm as its a very high revving engine.im just recalling what i read on rcu anyway as it will be a while till i can afford a zen 7 lol  ::).
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: glennb2006 on March 12, 2007, 07:54:38 PM
Yeah I got a Zen 7, it's currently  in the Miami I am bringing to Windermere.......

It so far (This is the kiss of death) has been a reliable motor, easy starting and revs a lot. Goes well. Amd fairly quiet. I am happy with it. To be honest, it is probably too good for the Miami.

Now with my quick release mounts it can go into more than one hull...

Hmm, need to stay away from here or Mr Marles may end up getting another call to liberate me of some wonga.

Glenn
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: chromedome on March 12, 2007, 08:30:11 PM
Danny to you ever compete North of the border?


chromedome
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: omra85 on March 12, 2007, 09:56:29 PM
Hi Chromedome
I didn't know anybody raced "North of the Border". Windermere is as high as I get.
Years ago, when I was multi racing, there was a bloke called Jim Fairburn who used to drive down regularly. I think he even slept in his car :D  He's the only Scotsman I've met racing.
Are you offering to put an event on ??? ;D
Danny
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: w3bby on March 13, 2007, 12:16:13 AM
I have it on good authority that the boat will be running a Zen (as it has during shake down)..
Me, I run a Zen 7 it starts easy, revs hard and high. Glenn, I'm sure Dave would be only to pleased to lighten your wallet, 280 or thereabouts for epoxy I believe.

CMB sparky seems to have had a few teething troubles, most now solved reputedly. Other option could be the SG35 from Italy but that also has had teething troubles.

No competition for me, the nearest O race to me in Sweden is 6 hours away.......not enough time and hard to justify the money......
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: glennb2006 on March 13, 2007, 01:44:54 AM
Sure he would. That's not too dear really.  :D

I heard the CMB 35's had trouble initially with the ABC engine, now apparently all ringed and better. Interesting I was at Peterborough end of last year for a mooch and the Zen pull started first go, and was inthe water for the race in seconds, the CMB took about 20 seconds messing on with the starter etc. before it even fired.

Then the prop. shaft fell out before the boat hit the water -  not the engine's fault. All in the preparation young 'un....

It did make me smile though.

For the price the Zenoah is pretty good value for money.

Glenn.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on March 13, 2007, 09:10:42 AM
 ;D thats funny id love to have seen that guys face when the shaft fell out of the boat,imagine spending a grand on an over priced over hyped engine for that to happen.why pay that sort of money when a zen at a 3rd or less can do the buisness i know which one id opt for in fact when i can afford a zen thats whats going in my new build eventually ;).
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: chromedome on March 13, 2007, 09:14:46 AM
NO Danny!!...just trying to learn a little bit more,but i don't see any 1/C boats up here.not allowed in our club.


chromedome
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on March 14, 2007, 10:13:46 PM
if they dont allow ic boats you should boycot the stuffed shirts and start yer own club!!.misserable old sods ,ive met a few of those over the years to last a lifetime.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: kendalboatsman on March 14, 2007, 10:46:20 PM
if they dont allow ic boats you should boycot the stuffed shirts and start yer own club!!.misserable old sods ,ive met a few of those over the years to last a lifetime.

Quite often it isn't the "stuffed shirts" at a club but a restriction imposed by the local council!

Clive :)
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on March 14, 2007, 11:18:19 PM
more stuffed shirts lol,in my experience its usually the stuffed shirts on the club board who get the ban enforced by complaining to the councill who were oblivious to the fact people were running ic boats.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: cbr900 on March 15, 2007, 01:50:55 PM
Ian Mate,

I would suggest you keep the young lady away from your boats, as it would appear that one has eaten her jeans, props are dangerous........ ;D ;D ;D



Roy
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on March 15, 2007, 04:53:44 PM
Ian Mate,

I would suggest you keep the young lady away from your boats, as it would appear that one has eaten her jeans, props are dangerous........ ;D ;D ;D



Roy
thats dave marles boat and i presume his missus lol!!
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: w3bby on March 15, 2007, 05:46:22 PM
It's definitely Dave's garage door at least, one of the better viewed garage doors in the world I would think, seems to appear on every new launch from Prestwich  ;D ;D ;D
Actually saw a similar pattern on a leg many years ago, Marine fell out the back of his boat without the deadman attached, not pretty :o
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: DaveMarles on March 19, 2007, 04:02:11 PM
The CMB 35 is too heavy.  I like my tuned Zenoah, fast, very reliable and lots of rpm. 
The jeans are called fashion. I'll spell it for you  F A S H I O N.
 That's my mechanic and my garage door. Michelle can't afford new unripped jeans, my prices are too low.  :)
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on March 19, 2007, 04:14:42 PM
The CMB 35 is too heavy.  I like my tuned Zenoah, fast, very reliable and lots of rpm. 
The jeans are called fashion. I'll spell it for you  F A S H I O N.
 That's my mechanic and my garage door. Michelle can't afford new unripped jeans, my prices are too low.  :)
dave your prices too low never lol  :o.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: w3bby on March 19, 2007, 04:54:36 PM
Welcome Dave, good to see you on an English forum  ;D
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: DaveMarles on April 30, 2007, 09:29:26 PM
Heres a bit of video of the Sigma testing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JdHMxfgpQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JdHMxfgpQ)

 I heard that a Sigma 51 modified for OMRA ( 2" sides) won its first race yesterday.  :P
Dave
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: Martin [Admin] on April 30, 2007, 09:48:21 PM

Holy cow Dave!!!  :o

Martin.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on April 30, 2007, 10:45:35 PM
Heres a bit of video of the Sigma testing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JdHMxfgpQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JdHMxfgpQ)

 I heard that a Sigma 51 modified for OMRA ( 2" sides) won its first race yesterday.  :P
Dave
looks great dave ,what happened to the bit where the boat landed on the grass? yup someone told on yaaa lol.seriously though thats one fast boat what race did the omra one win?.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: glennb2006 on April 30, 2007, 11:42:57 PM
Heres a bit of video of the Sigma testing. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JdHMxfgpQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_JdHMxfgpQ)

 I heard that a Sigma 51 modified for OMRA ( 2" sides) won its first race yesterday.  :P
Dave
looks great dave ,what happened to the bit where the boat landed on the grass? yup someone told on yaaa lol.seriously though thats one fast boat what race did the omra one win?.

At least it was probably the right way up when it landed on the grass Martin....

 :D


Glenn
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on May 01, 2007, 12:06:35 AM
lol err look out for the moles hehe ;D and like youve never flipped a boat glenn  ;).its all in good fun.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: DaveMarles on May 01, 2007, 05:56:23 AM
Mart, The aerobatics were caused after I hit a steel pole at close to 60 mph. We're sending that video to you've been framed.  8).  Only got a scratch on the hull ( I build em tough) but wrecked the rudder and strut when it landed on the concrete bank, good job it wasnt a woody!.  The OMRA race that was won was last Sunday at Telford 29th April. You'd have to look up the results to see the driver. My lips are sealed. ::)
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on May 01, 2007, 09:04:22 AM
I think i allready know the drivers name lol ,fishes come to mind lol,you should have left the flip in the video it would have been fun to watch.where did the pole come from, kids or has it allways been there?.Good to know the hull can take that sort of punishment though.I think the woody is strong enough i know ian has flipped his and landed on the bank a cpl of times with not much damage ,good thing about ply is it flexes just enough and wont crack easy.Ive hit all manner of things in a 14 ft speed boat built from marine ply and had a few holes punched through it and it held together pretty well and took lots of abuse so dont underestimate the woody  ;).My next one will probably be an epoxy hull made from my own mould to my design.It all depends on the funds available to me,i did think of making this one into a mould and do an epoxy version i doubt it would be in the same league as your hulls but id like to have a go.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: DaveMarles on May 01, 2007, 09:23:07 AM
Buried at each end of our lake we have 3 vertical steel poles that are used by the yachters. They stick up about 300mm and make life interesting with a fast boat if you use up all of the lake.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on May 01, 2007, 10:11:23 AM
dont you just love yachters  >:(,maybe you should get something put on the top of them so you can see them clearly ?.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: w3bby on May 01, 2007, 11:17:12 AM
Ask them to change them for plastic, that's what we use at our pond. They flex enough unless you really hit them head on. We drop polystyrene floats over them for race day.

Nice running video Dave  ;D
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on May 01, 2007, 12:39:52 PM
Ask them to change them for plastic, that's what we use at our pond. They flex enough unless you really hit them head on. We drop polystyrene floats over them for race day.

Nice running video Dave  ;D
either use Polly floats or the next time a boat hits one and gets impaled on it leave it there as a reminder not to do it again hehe ;)
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: JayDee on May 01, 2007, 02:01:55 PM
Hello,
 What is the name of the Lake???.
John.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on May 01, 2007, 03:52:51 PM
Hello,
 What is the name of the Lake???.
John.
secret test lake hehe just kidding john i believe it belongs to the birkenhead club or so my spy's tell me  ;).
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: retro boats on May 01, 2007, 05:14:23 PM
hi
 another fast boat how much do i have to re norgage the  house for to buy one?
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: DaveMarles on May 01, 2007, 05:31:19 PM
The lake is at Gautby road park.  Birkenhead UK


Hello,
 What is the name of the Lake???.
John.
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: glennb2006 on May 02, 2007, 10:20:02 AM
hi
 another fast boat how much do i have to re norgage the  house for to buy one?

Dave is quoting at 295 in epoxy and 395 in Carbon / Kevlar. For the hull. Not too bad really.

Glenn
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: DickyD on May 02, 2007, 11:50:05 AM
Very nice Dave.
Very fast
Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzk3fH1ItzY&NR=1

Richard ;)
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: glennb2006 on May 02, 2007, 03:11:47 PM
Very nice Dave.
Very fast
Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzk3fH1ItzY&NR=1

Richard ;)

Yeah they are fast little things Richard, not sure of how practical they are though, suspect it is the type of boat that spends more time being set up and repaired than being out on the water.

I have never run one (Yet!), the hydro's seem more popular in the US than here.

Do you fancy a go at one?

Glenn
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: martno1fan on May 02, 2007, 04:34:05 PM
the water needs to be like glass to run a hydro or rigger whatever you wanna call em !!
Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: retro boats on May 02, 2007, 05:00:49 PM


yes very quick for a few seconds,
 but lots of time mucking about charging dells
             cells


Title: Re: New from Prestwich Models
Post by: DickyD on May 02, 2007, 05:55:43 PM
Very nice Dave.
Very fast
Check this out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzk3fH1ItzY&NR=1

Richard ;)

Yeah they are fast little things Richard, not sure of how practical they are though, suspect it is the type of boat that spends more time being set up and repaired than being out on the water.

I have never run one (Yet!), the hydro's seem more popular in the US than here.

Do you fancy a go at one?

Glenn
No thanks Glenn I will stick to the warships.
Nowhere down here where you can use them.
Gave them up in the 70s, still finding the odd engine etc.

Richard ;)