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Title: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 04, 2011, 09:40:22 PM
Welcome to my 1/24 galleon build.     

The boat is being made from a glass fibre hull that my club made the mould for.

The hull was the first one the club made so on one side there is a bit of a fault on one side but nothing that can't be fixed with a bit of filler.

this should be fun and take a long time, all the builds are now in the loft to make way for the galleon, pics will follow.

                                                                                                         kk
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: Arrow5 on September 05, 2011, 08:39:20 AM
Sounds interesting, looking forward to pictures. 1/24th scale , what is the overall length ?
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 05, 2011, 09:50:39 AM
She's just over a meter , measuring 102 cm.    (just hull without bowsprit)   Pics will follow.
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 05, 2011, 10:24:37 AM
And 32 cm high.








                                                                   KK
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: Popeye on September 05, 2011, 10:25:29 AM
She's just over a meter , measuring 102 cm.    (just hull without bowsprit)   Pics will follow.

If you specify the Waterline length, beam and draft dimensions I'll be able to give you a good idea of what the as-built model is likely to weigh if it's to sail at it's plan Waterline - rest assured it'll be heavier than you think.  %).

My recently finished 1:32 scale 18th Century square rigger - W/L = 875mm, Beam = 240mm, Draft = 114mm  weighed in at 29lbs compared to the 27 -30lbs drawing board estimate. :-))
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: Arrow5 on September 05, 2011, 10:40:00 AM
Thank Kid, is it going to be sail only or power assist ?
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 05, 2011, 10:46:11 AM
It will have to be power assisted for in displays and tricky moments the motor will be powered by one 12 volt battery,  I will use a 6 volt battery for lights and possible another twelve volt for ballast.


The boat has no plans and is made from looking at the other ships in the club so will check waterline of a similar model next time I'm down there ,(Tuesday) .
And trust me I know that there no light feathers  :-)) .

                                                                                     KK
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: Popeye on September 05, 2011, 11:38:45 AM
It will have to be power assisted for in displays and tricky moments the motor will be powered by one 12 volt battery,  I will use a 6 volt battery for lights and possible another twelve volt for ballast.


The boat has no plans and is made from looking at the other ships in the club so will check waterline of a similar model next time I'm down there ,(Tuesday) .
And trust me I know that there no light feathers  :-)) .

                                                                                     KK

Be prepared for more ballast!
The finished weight of my plank on frame hull was 11lbs (including a 6v 3700Ma Sub C battery for radio etc and a 7.2v 3700Ma Sub C for emergency use only  motor. A further 18lbs ballast (bolt-on fin) was needed to bring the brig down to its plan Waterline. :o
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 05, 2011, 12:06:04 PM
Be prepared for more ballast!
The finished weight of my plank on frame hull was 11lbs (including a 6v 3700Ma Sub C battery for radio etc and a 7.2v 3700Ma Sub C for emergency use only  motor. A further 18lbs ballast (bolt-on fin) was needed to bring the brig down to its plan Waterline. :o

Pretty looking model, that is the type of model intended for this 'slightly' reduced sailing ship hull. Having just finished molding the second one of these hulls and owning one of the slightly bigger 3 masted models, I can confirm it will not be a light model.
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 05, 2011, 12:27:14 PM
Pics of the galleon.    






(http://s1.postimage.org/7vxqz9fo/P2160003.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7vxqz9fo/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/7vzeilxg/P2160004.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7vzeilxg/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/7w121yf8/P2160005.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7w121yf8/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/7w2plax0/P2160006.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7w2plax0/)

(http://s1.postimage.org/7w4d4nes/P2160007.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7w4d4nes/)

I have started its much needed hair cut.                    
I have also devoted a room to the galleon to help with space
You can see the damage I mentioned earlier on the lighter bits of the hull but u.b.n is going to lend me his filler to help , thanks.
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 05, 2011, 01:18:29 PM
After the hair cut.                    I can see why hair dressers don't like people wearing gel when they come in for a hair cut.

(http://s2.postimage.org/g5ivpspw/P2160008.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/g5ivpspw/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/g5kj957o/P2160009.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/g5kj957o/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/g5nubu78/P2160010.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/g5nubu78/)

(http://s2.postimage.org/g5r5ej6s/P2160011.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/g5r5ej6s/)
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 05, 2011, 05:35:15 PM
Thanks for posting such high definition images of our first hull, gives such a great impression of the level of talent whith which Portsmouth is awash!!




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Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 05, 2011, 05:39:23 PM
just doing my job to advertise the clubs brilliance




u going down the club tomorrow ubn
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 05, 2011, 05:41:32 PM
can you sand glass fibre
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on September 05, 2011, 05:45:34 PM
The hull has a cut line about 25mm below the top of the molding, that is the line to cut to, suggest leaving it to a sensible grown up ( if you can find one) who will hack it down with a tenon saw! Sounds like my job for Tuesday then...
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: DickyD on September 05, 2011, 05:46:17 PM
Thanks for posting such high definition images of our first hull, gives such a great impression of the level of talent whith which Portsmouth is awash!!




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Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: Edward Pinniger on September 05, 2011, 05:58:16 PM
I'll definitely be following this thread with interest, "historic scale sail" really appeals to me even if my own efforts in this area haven't met with much success!
What type of ship are you planning to build from the hull? Something from the 18th/early 19th century (as shown in Popeye's post) or an actual galleon from the 16th/17th century?

Those "holes" in the hull look rather alarming - looks like either a bad case of shipworm or the results of an enemy broadside! Are they actual holes, or just areas where there's no glass fibre in the resin?
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 05, 2011, 06:49:10 PM
To answer your questions   its going to be an 18th century ship.     

They aren't holes just where some of the glass fibre has  stayed on the mould creating thinner bits.




                                                                      kk
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 05, 2011, 06:52:22 PM
Just a frame to help with strength wast I'm working on it .

(http://s2.postimage.org/jpdgcn1g/P2160001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jpdgcn1g/)


                                                             kk
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 12, 2011, 08:05:47 PM
stuff has been done on it but i lost my camera


it has been cut down filered sanded and a permanent reinforcement  frame is halfway through


                                                                                      kk
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: triumphjon on September 12, 2011, 08:48:39 PM
looks like you have an air problem in your mould ? it may be worth checking the rest of the hull for bubbles in the gel coat ! you can buy a gel coat filler from factor o ( limberline spur ) or from chris hornsby marine , you will find this to be much harder than ordinary automotive fillers , its also waterproof !
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 15, 2011, 05:53:13 PM
no no air bubles                           



                                                                                                                    KK
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: romanjohn on September 23, 2011, 11:19:54 PM
ben do you want me to fit rc in your corvett before decks
go on .ask your mum very nicely .
you were very lucky i had old matchbox hull and superstructure
in the loft now what could i do with that hull no ben you cant
have it you have enough projects on the go
please let me know what you would like done.

john


Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on September 24, 2011, 08:26:04 PM
How much would radio gear cost for corvette?

Thanks a lot i dont know what i would do without you.



                                                                            KK
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: romanjohn on September 24, 2011, 10:58:07 PM
ben if you cannot afford it at moment
leave it on hold for the time being
i am down the lake sunday afternoon
might see you down there

romanjohn
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on October 02, 2011, 05:22:55 PM
Work has continued.


 Pics to follow.


                                                                             kk
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: romanjohn on October 08, 2011, 07:33:27 PM
hi ben not good news  one of your battries has had it when your tid sank in the lake on  sunday
your speed controler witch i fixed  to one my boats started smoking badly
i rang the shop and spoke to helen told her what happend

romanjohn
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on October 08, 2011, 08:39:04 PM
Dam   that was my last speed controller  (my other one blew up when my car crashed into a river in 100 achor woods).
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: triumphjon on October 08, 2011, 08:41:13 PM
must have been an underwater tug !
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on October 08, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
must have been an underwater tug !

i think the word your looking for is tub
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: triumphjon on October 08, 2011, 08:54:45 PM
why TUB , do you know why you captain has decided that visiting the bottom of canoe lake was a good place to go ?
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on October 08, 2011, 08:58:44 PM
why tub      tug and sub merged = 2words  1:tub  2:sug       you may have noticed no1 is a word but not number two so tub it was   and when it wasnt rc i played with it in the tub and always capsized it
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on October 08, 2011, 09:02:12 PM
decided im not usinga frame just a thik deck and a strip of wood round the edge of it pics tomorrow
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: triumphjon on October 08, 2011, 09:09:02 PM
ive just sent you 2 pms re radio ! . a model that likes turning turtle in the bath isnt going to last in the lake for long !
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: romanjohn on October 09, 2011, 12:17:08 AM
ben you must more carefull with your boats they are not toys
look and watch other club members handle there boats with great care
our willingness to help you can go out door if you are not carefull
and think of your smashing mum she foots the bill
your enthusiasm cannot be taken away from you

romanjohn
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on October 09, 2011, 12:13:15 PM
ive just sent you 2 pms re radio ! . a model that likes turning turtle in the bath isnt going to last in the lake for long !

no i used to pile it up with 1/72 solders and have a battle but ive grown up now  
dont worry ive only grown up a tiny bit
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: triumphjon on October 09, 2011, 04:31:48 PM
time to research the plimsole line ? under samuel plimsole !
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on December 21, 2011, 01:58:11 PM
more work  done   


the wooden rims for the deck have been cutout and awaiting being glued in   just need too go to the shop and buy2 part epoxy
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on December 21, 2011, 04:14:20 PM
just walked the dog to the model shop.... or the dog walked me to the model shop    and brought the best 2 part epoxy available on the market   mister sticky's superglue         due to funding cuts from mum im having to pay for this all myself so the build will be slowed down even more by that fact  ...... but in the end we should get one hell of a model 



                                                                            kk
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: MikeA on December 21, 2011, 11:16:11 PM
i tell you what fella not many parents would fund a hobby that gets as expensive as this you know. You should count yourself lucky in some respects as money as it is now is so tight parents can barely afford to feed their kids.

You wont see it but her cutting your funding will give you the strength in time to stand on your own feet as a man  :-)) its all good
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on December 22, 2011, 11:14:17 AM
i totaly get what your saying my mums been brilliant spent 100 of pounds that she cant really afford it just came to a shock to me that when i first started paying for it myself (daybefore yesterday) i had 20 pounds in my account and yesterday afternoon found out i only have 4 ponds in my account ..... i never realised quite how not far 20 pounds gives you in this hobby.

all the club members think shes a angel  for helping me as far as this and still she will help me by sometimes getting up as early as 6 o'clock to take me to displays  and pays 50 p a week  so i can go to club house   witch yearly is almost double are membership (though my dad pays membership) and to add to the list of how amazing she is shes always got my back some of the members have tried to make it increasingly harder for me to be a member and she has told are whats the word....cool....amazing....gallent.... good yer lets go withgood chairman and thats mainly gone away as far as i know           so thank you mum         if you have bothered to read all this ... thank you


                                                                                                  kk
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: MikeA on December 22, 2011, 05:26:15 PM
you can do quite a fair amount with 20 quid, you just have to "make do" in some cases, it is possible to build a farely decent boat for just 50 quid. especially if you make as much as possible and use parts and materials you can salvage. Not all of us modellers are rich like a lot of these guys built we still do it.  :-))
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: triumphjon on December 22, 2011, 06:11:22 PM
very well put mike , think my last sail boat didnt even cost me 50 , took me a couple of months to refurbish / convert the hull and my girlfreind made the sails for me !
(http://s9.postimage.org/dbz69dcij/022.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/dbz69dcij/) jon
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: Netleyned on December 22, 2011, 06:27:39 PM
KK Give your Mum A hug and a kiss and let her know every day she's appreciated.
At the end of the day you only have one Mum.


Ned
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: MikeA on December 22, 2011, 06:31:44 PM
and a fine example it is. See what you dont need money KK, get your self a swmbo and shel do the hard work  :-))
Title: Re: 1/24 scale galleon build
Post by: ben hall on December 29, 2011, 07:34:22 PM
more work done one rim on just about to start on the rest of them                                                           kk