Model Boat Mayhem

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Title: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: garston1 on October 13, 2011, 08:31:31 pm
I read yesterday in our local rag that some powers that be at New Brighton have seen fit to remove the model Lighthouse from the boating lake. The reason being so I've heard is  because a member of the public's boat steered into it and sank! How can anybody hit a small lighthouse in a lake the size of New Brighton's? Anyway they complained to the Council who in turn asked the club to remove said item! The lighthouse was not doing any harm at all and i reckon the member of the public should have been watching what they were doing. Instead the removal has spoiled a lot of enjoyment to members and public alike whom used to like sailing around it. I can't believe the Council acted on ONE complaint. It wasn't a health and safety issue, it couldn't explode nor could it become a health hazard. It was made from a tyre and expanded polystyrene, it must have been hit with a hell of a wack! Bloody Jobsworths!
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: fatcat123 on October 13, 2011, 08:39:22 pm
Sadly theres no common sense left in the world..

people need to seriously get a grip of their lives and stop blaming the world for their mistakes and incompetence.

this type of thing makes me angry, id personally drown whoever this fool is and the jobsworth who took them seriously.

 <*<
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: AndrewB on October 13, 2011, 08:45:45 pm
Can they cone over to NZ and remove the reef that the Rena is parked on  <*<
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: garston1 on October 13, 2011, 09:09:00 pm
For anyone wondering how big the lighthouse is, here it is in the background! Pathetic or what?? (click the pic)


(http://s4.postimage.org/20wtuds10/DSC_0020.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/20wtuds10/)


Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: nhp651 on October 13, 2011, 09:32:16 pm
I'd have told the official that if he didn't go away and quickly I'd have used  the aforesaid Lighthouse as an enema on him, for speaking so much ****

I just can't believe the crasse stupidity of both the official AND THE IDIOT who sank his model by sailing into it..........no word s strong enough, lol >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Martin (Admin) on October 13, 2011, 10:25:05 pm

.... can someone remind me the purpose of a lighthouse again please?!?!?!    {:-{
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: garston1 on October 13, 2011, 10:29:02 pm
.... can someone remind me the purpose of a lighthouse again please?!?!?!    {:-{

LOL  {-)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Colin Bishop on October 13, 2011, 11:11:51 pm
Very good Martin - straight to the point!
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on October 13, 2011, 11:47:29 pm
on the other side of the Mersey at Newsham park the council decided to fit a Duck stand in the middle of the lake, they put in a base that was about 2" below the water and left no marker warning  So a couple of days later Paul was testing his Huntsman at speed and found a way of ripping the running gear out of a boat.
I think he should of gone for compo

Peter
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: pettyofficernick on October 14, 2011, 12:24:55 am
Typical knee jerk reaction from the illustrious dons at Wirral Council. I have crashed into the same lighthouse at high speed on a number of occasions when seeing how close I could get to it at speed (when no one else is on the lake of course) and suffered no damage at all, so how this blokes boat was damaged enough t sink it I do not know. My hull is made from 1/32nd ply and has stood up well, The lighthouse is only polystyrene, I was worried in case I had damaged the lighthouse! Anyway, the odd sinking is part of the fun of model boating, isn't it? heres a picture of said boat undergoing harbour trials. :-)) :-)) :-))
(http://s1.postimage.org/2cfagmemc/09092010_002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2cfagmemc/)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: garston1 on October 14, 2011, 01:27:07 am
Typical knee jerk reaction from the illustrious dons at Wirral Council. I have crashed into the same lighthouse at high speed on a number of occasions when seeing how close I could get to it at speed (when no one else is on the lake of course) and suffered no damage at all, so how this blokes boat was damaged enough t sink it I do not know. My hull is made from 1/32nd ply and has stood up well, The lighthouse is only polystyrene, I was worried in case I had damaged the lighthouse! Anyway, the odd sinking is part of the fun of model boating, isn't it? heres a picture of said boat undergoing harbour trials. :-)) :-)) :-))
(http://s1.postimage.org/2cfagmemc/09092010_002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2cfagmemc/)


It makes you think, doesn't it??
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: colin on October 14, 2011, 07:11:05 am
Perhaps they will remove the outer edges of the pool in case he hits them as well and put some gelatin in the water so it does not run away.

Colin
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: pettyofficernick on October 14, 2011, 10:32:38 am
Perhaps they will remove the outer edges of the pool in case he hits them as well and put some gelatin in the water so it does not run away.

Colin

Or drain the lake completelyand have all model boaters attach wheels to their creations, thus avoiding all possibility of a boat ever sinking again! >>:-( >>:-( :-))
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on October 14, 2011, 10:34:45 am
Typical knee jerk reaction from the illustrious dons at Wirral Council. I have crashed into the same lighthouse at high speed on a number of occasions when seeing how close I could get to it at speed (when no one else is on the lake of course) and suffered no damage at all, so how this blokes boat was damaged enough t sink it I do not know. My hull is made from 1/32nd ply and has stood up well, The lighthouse is only polystyrene, I was worried in case I had damaged the lighthouse! Anyway, the odd sinking is part of the fun of model boating, isn't it? heres a picture of said boat undergoing harbour trials. :-)) :-)) :-))
(http://s1.postimage.org/2cfagmemc/09092010_002.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/2cfagmemc/)


Maybee this idiot had a sub  {-) {-) {-) and he didn't know it 

Peter   O0
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: thegrimreaper on October 14, 2011, 10:58:47 am
No Peter Subs don't sink they submerge then surface again so it wasn't a sub the idiot was running did anybody see the incident ?? has the wreck been recovered? or is it now a sunken obstacle for my sub to run into in the middle of the pool because if it is then I will have to see the man from the council if the sunken wreck so much as scratches the paint on my sub ------not.

Regards Mark
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: nhp651 on October 14, 2011, 11:40:42 am
No Peter Subs don't sink they submerge then surface again
Regards Mark

correction Mark.. they do!!!...............the only sub I ever built.a ron perrott Resolution.............errrr.......definately sunk....... {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) %% %% %% %% {:-{ {:-{ {:-{ <:( <:( <:( <:(
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on October 14, 2011, 11:45:59 am
No Peter Subs don't sink they submerge then surface again so it wasn't a sub the idiot was running did anybody see the incident ?? has the wreck been recovered? or is it now a sunken obstacle for my sub to run into in the middle of the pool because if it is then I will have to see the man from the council if the sunken wreck so much as scratches the paint on my sub ------not.

Regards Mark

well the BBC made a mistake.  O0

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/3193625.stm
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: The long Build on October 14, 2011, 12:33:36 pm
Quite right it was removed  :-)) can you imagine the catastrophic explosion if it had been a high speed steam powered launch   :} :} :} :} :} :} ok2 ok2   ;D ;D
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: JB on October 14, 2011, 01:43:32 pm
Quite right it was removed  :-)) can you imagine the catastrophic explosion if it had been a high speed steam powered launch   :} :} :} :} :} :} ok2 ok2   ;D ;D


 {-) {-) {-)

just told the story to the wife...only got half way through and she burst out laughing and said I knew it O0 {-)

It might just be me but it smells a bit, I've never been to New Brighton so don't know the setup, not upset a boater anyone...could have a mate in the council...

Jb.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: treeboa on October 14, 2011, 02:19:20 pm
sounds about typical for wbc, wonder how long it will be before you have to pay launching fees  O0
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: mersey dave on October 14, 2011, 04:47:56 pm
Hi All, On this matter i would just like to say that i have been in contact  with the council for over a week now and we are both working together in sorting this issue out.
The council have said they are like the rest of us and want to see people down at the lake enjoying themselves. So for the time being all i can say is things are going very well and we are all happy. :-)) :-)) :-))


Regards Dave.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: rmaddock on October 14, 2011, 05:22:29 pm
I've just seen you lighthouse on an episode of "Coast". It looked truly viscous to me - must have been inches high! {-)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: pettyofficernick on October 14, 2011, 05:43:50 pm
I have never heard of a lighthouse being a hazard to navigation before, has anyone else? :D :D
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: JB on October 14, 2011, 05:51:44 pm
Its just occurred to me what the problem is/was/could be...

No one though to light the candle...
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: garston1 on October 14, 2011, 05:56:54 pm
What does the sign say at Eastham? 'Welcome to Wirral, a pleasant place to grow'. We will be also be building a nice brick wall around the peninsular, everyeryone will be under curfew, the council will watch your every move, having fun will be punished by being deported to Liverpool, no get together of more than 4 people, You will obey us!
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Xtian29 on October 14, 2011, 06:00:37 pm
It's like a joke !  removal of a model lighthouse from a pound because it's a danger as a model hit it !   And the council was involved in this decision

(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2011/10/14/111014070324288259.gif) (http://www.casimages.com)

LOL ...  Xtian
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Netleyned on October 14, 2011, 06:15:17 pm
Lit Candle  <*< <*< <*<
Light Pollution
Hazard to combusting feathers of low flying ducks  O0 O0

Sorted by the Council Pond Life Committee

Ned
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on October 14, 2011, 06:18:25 pm
Dont splash anybody or it will be a sandpit next week O0 {-) {-) %%

Peter {-) {-)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: The long Build on October 14, 2011, 06:36:04 pm
Hi All, On this matter i would just like to say that i have been in contact  with the council for over a week now and we are both working together in sorting this issue out.

Yes slap the complainant with a wet kipper and tell them don't be so stupid... :police:

 I know someone   :kiss: who accidentally sank a fellow members boat the other week .. So using wbc theory all models must now be banned..
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: mersey dave on October 14, 2011, 06:51:56 pm
Hi All, On this matter i would just like to say that i have been in contact  with the council for over a week now and we are both working together in sorting this issue out.
The council have said they are like the rest of us and want to see people down at the lake enjoying themselves. So for the time being all i can say is things are going very well and we are all happy. :-)) :-)) :-))


Regards Dave.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: thegrimreaper on October 14, 2011, 07:01:34 pm
Dont want to set the cat amongst the pigeons so to speak  <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<but the light house was an accident waiting to happen :police: :police: :police:
you may read this and ask why but quite simply it is only a house their is NO light on it. where was the risk assesment for the erection of this house in the middle of the pond

and I stand by my statement that submarines submerge not sink unless they are built wrong or happen to develop a hole in the side  O0 O0 ;D ;D O0


please read with tongue in cheek  ok2 ok2 ok2

Regards Mark
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: slug on October 14, 2011, 07:05:55 pm
please carry a ruler to check wave heights   slug
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: nhp651 on October 14, 2011, 07:08:01 pm
I have never heard of a lighthouse being a hazard to navigation before, has anyone else? :D :D


You just ask some  Fleetwood trawler skippers...they were always running into the b****** things.....like moths to a flame. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: The long Build on October 14, 2011, 07:33:01 pm
If it had only been a real ship you could just have imagined the conversation going something like this...


Sorry could not, not put up this youtube clip..One of my favourites


www.youtube.com/watch?v=srVZULoddEw&feature=related
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: fletch62 on October 14, 2011, 07:35:47 pm
watch out they will remove the water if someone falls in  {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Number 6 on October 14, 2011, 07:39:02 pm
I think Id just put another one in the lake and sod the pathetic bureaucrats. If someone runs into it perhaps they should have gone to specsavers.   :P
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: FsASTSyd1 on October 14, 2011, 08:01:08 pm
Hope he doesn't graduate to full size , he might want the Isle of Man moved. {-) %% >>:-( :o :} :-))
Syd
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on October 14, 2011, 08:17:46 pm
and I stand by my statement that submarines submerge not sink unless they are built wrong or happen to develop a hole in the side  O0 O0 ;D ;D O0


please read with tongue in cheek  ok2 ok2 ok2

Regards Mark

It might have got the hole hitting the lighthouse  :((

Peter
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: rmaddock on October 14, 2011, 08:33:34 pm
If it had only been a real ship you could just have imagined the conversation going something like this...


Sorry could not, not put up this youtube clip..One of my favourites


www.youtube.com/watch?v=srVZULoddEw&feature=related

Oh! That was so apt!  {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: JB on October 14, 2011, 10:26:07 pm
Lit Candle  <*< <*< <*<
Light Pollution
Hazard to combusting feathers of low flying ducks  O0 O0

Sorted by the Council Pond Life Committee

Ned

Just being picky.. {-)

Ok, wind powered LED...nearly said solar but not much sun around this time of year...I know..wave powered...more boats on the water O0 :D

JB.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: justboatonic on October 14, 2011, 10:58:53 pm
I have never heard of a lighthouse being a hazard to navigation before, has anyone else? :D :D


Yes, and I think there's a thread on here somewhere about it. a USN carrier group were off the coast somewhere when the USN carrier captain recieved a radio message to change course. The USN carrier captain refused and advised the other party to change course as he was a full carrier group from the USN. The other party advised the carrier to change course but the captain refused and continued to order the other party to change their course.

The other party said they could not change course as they were a lighthose and said it was the USN carrier group#s decision what to do next as they'd soon run aground if they did not change course!

Not sure if this is an urban myth though!
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: The long Build on October 14, 2011, 11:05:30 pm
Think it is an urban myth but the vid shows how that may have gone if it had been true..
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: tigertiger on October 16, 2011, 04:54:56 am
Yes slap the complainant with a wet kipper and tell them don't be so stupid... :police:


On the subject of Youtube
Youtube search Monty Python fish dance. Sorry can't give you the link.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Xtian29 on October 16, 2011, 10:50:09 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SSOWORzw4

Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: kinmel on October 17, 2011, 08:18:40 pm

Wirral may have removed an obstruction from New Brighton boating lake, but Conwy Council are in the process of putting a huge marble statue in the middle of the boating lake at Llandudno's West Shore !     

The monument has always suffered from vandalism and is presently wrapped in an iron sphere in the middle of a small pool, now they think the adjacent 0.75m. deep boating lake will prove more of a deterrent to vandals.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c9/Alice_in_Wonderland_-_geograph.org.uk_-_580510.jpg/639px-Alice_in_Wonderland_-_geograph.org.uk_-_580510.jpg)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: nhp651 on October 17, 2011, 09:43:52 pm
at least the lake is wadeable when you ger yer bowsprit caughtd in it,  bullseye, lol %% %% %%
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Xtian29 on October 17, 2011, 10:59:38 pm
Hello

What about the swan ? they are not a danger for model sailing ? please ask to council to open the shoting season  <*<

Xtian   
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on October 17, 2011, 11:14:16 pm
I'm glad it's gone It did get in the way as did the silly round things that surrounded it. very childish really. And the water in the lake does stink as well.

LB, in Durham at present.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: brianB6 on October 17, 2011, 11:16:07 pm
Definately a hazzard.  >>:-(
I had one attack and sink my Sea Commander in Barnes Pond when they were hatching eggs.  It just sat on top of it when it ran out of fuel. <:(
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Howard Q on October 18, 2011, 10:30:57 pm
We had an expensive model sink during our tug towing last week, this was caused by mother nature blowing too hard down the lake, who do I contact to request non windy days for our Club events, we put it down to the big OH DEAR!!  <*< {-) {-) {-).
Howard.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: ministeve on October 18, 2011, 11:47:57 pm
hi all the club members should get a back bone and fight to have the artifacts replaced if that is what the majority want after all it is there for your enjoyment and who wants to sail round in a circle all day much better to try and ram something every now and then. if you can not control your boat then should you really be putting it on the water risking other peoples pride and joy
 Ste
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: geids on October 19, 2011, 10:52:15 am
Why not go to the system they had when cars first appeared, someone to walk in front with a red flag. All we need to do is find individuals who can actually walk on water. Not those who think they can, I am sure you all know someone like that,  %% %% %%
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: nhp651 on October 19, 2011, 11:05:59 am
All we need to do is find individuals who can actually walk on water.

well !!! it's obvious that the local councillors think they can, so club members may want to suggest they try or get their feet wet and prove their fallibility, {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: DickyD on October 19, 2011, 01:02:00 pm
Definately a hazzard.  >>:-(
I had one attack and sink my Sea Commander in Barnes Pond when they were hatching eggs.  It just sat on top of it when it ran out of fuel. <:(

A swan that ran out of fuel, how odd.  %)
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: funtimefrankie on October 19, 2011, 04:30:25 pm
It's probably not a decision made by a councilor, more likely some one in "parks & gardens".
A word with local councilors might be the best route to get the light house reinstated.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: Martin (Admin) on October 19, 2011, 05:11:36 pm
Conversely, has anyone from the club challenged it?

 If not, why would the council bother reconsidering it?! They're certainly not going to waste any time or effort considering it.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: mersey dave on October 19, 2011, 06:29:25 pm
Hi All, On this matter i would just like to say that i have been in contact  with the council for over a week now and we are both working together in sorting this issue out.
The council have said they are like the rest of us and want to see people down at the lake enjoying themselves. So for the time being all i can say is things are going very well and we are all happy. :-)) :-)) :-))


Regards Dave.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: dave301bounty on October 19, 2011, 07:21:52 pm
  Come on Dave ,something is wrong ,  somewhere  ? as Ste said ,get some back bone in the local club ?  its a laugh ,grown men ?
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: mersey dave on October 20, 2011, 04:51:42 pm
  Come on Dave ,something is wrong ,  somewhere  ? as Ste said ,get some back bone in the local club ?  its a laugh ,grown men ?

Don't you read what i have done.
                                                 Dave.
Title: Re: lighthouse removed from lake
Post by: dave301bounty on October 20, 2011, 07:18:39 pm
Sure can ,but you have said it three times ,am I right .