Model Boat Mayhem
The Shipyard ( Dry Dock ): Builds & Questions => Working Vessels => Topic started by: Tug-Kenny RIP on November 15, 2011, 08:21:49 pm
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I have finally started on the Model Slipway version of the the Scilly Isle's Ferry boat called the Gry Maritha.
At the moment, this ship is still in service between the Isle's so there is no excuse for getting the build parts in the wrong place. :}
The kit is no longer in production and I had to look farther afield to get one that had been in storage for a while. It costs more than the original but it did include a nice pair of motors.
Here are some pictures of the box and contents. No damage was found and all the parts seem to be there, alltough I have been assured by Model Slipway that they would be able to assit, should I need any. So here we go on boat number 20.
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The kit comes with a full installation manual (I shall feel spoilt and pampered on this build !!) and a box of parts numbering over a Thousand. (where's my glasses ?)
What a beautifully manufactured hull. No work needed here on smoothing and stuff like that so it was straight onto making a stand and drilling out the prop tube holes and rudder locations. The plastic card has allready been 'Lazered' with the cut out shapes so all that is need is to push them though. They didn't have this in my day, so this will save around three weeks of measuring and knifing out.
Might have her finished for Christmas at this rate. %)
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Here's a view of the home made stand and the prop tubes in location and all glued down .
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This vessel has a sliding hatch cover for large loads and my aim is to make it electric and remote controlled (what could possibly go wrong ?)
It's taken me all day to assemble, but now it's built I'm not sure with the stresses involved. Might have to beef her up a bit for fitting the gear drive system.
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The deck is a flush fitting type and the hatches were fitted while it was still loose. I have beefed up the underside to take heavier loads (lorries maybe !) but not secured it down yet.
There's still work inside to be done and I don't want to be working through hatch covers.
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While I had the camera out, I plonked the new cover on the hatch to get a feel for the look. She is going to look a smasher when it's done so I'm quite pleased with the progress.
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You may have noticed the Portholes (large vents?) have ben cut out.
Let me let you into a secret. This week at ALDI stores they have a set of sideways cutting drills in 5 diameter sizes. The smallest size is just the job for cutting fibreglass holes and squares.
Wear a mask as it's a filthy job and dangerous to the lungs but, Wow, it does the job in seconds. It fits my dremmel so it goes at high speed which has the effect of sanding the material rather than vibrationary cutting. You only need to drill the starting hole and then drag it around the desired area.
ken
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You're not messing about Kenny, looking great. I wouldn't mind doing one of these, it's a shame Model Slipway are no longer doing the kit. I'm guessing this was the one on ebay a few months ago, they're few and far between these days. Keep up the good work, Dave. :-))
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Thank you Dave. You are correct as it was the one on Ebay. Had to go mad with the bidding in the end just to get it, but I'm a happy bunny. :}
No work done today as I was called out from retirement to mend an Hammond Organ. Not many of us left now and the money will help towards my extravgant hobby style. %)
cheers
ken
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It's coming along very nicely, Ken, and well up to your usual high standard O0
I wish you lived closer to us as we have a small Hammond organ that no longer works, and it's proving very difficult to find anyone who can fix it.
Peter.
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Hi Peter.
Thanks for the compliments. I never stop working !!! if it's not one machine then it's another.
Pm me with the details of your instrument and faults as you see them, and I see if it's worth a flight over. :}
ken
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iv allways liked this model its ashame they dont make it anymore your build looks great please post more pics as you go
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Thank you Icebreaker. Done a bit more today but it was dark when she called me in for tea.
I'm working on the sliding hatch covers. Lots of working pieces to join up. Thank goodness I don't have to scratch build it. %)
ken
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Hullo Ken........in real marine life many deck hatch covers were opened by a device called a Gotaverken hinge [hydraulic linear x rotary motion actuator]..........the link below may tell you about them but provides little insight
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=gotaverken%20hinge&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CDMQFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpatent.ipexl.com%2FGB%2FGB1091069.html&ei=txbITsaQGaepiAeSgunsDw&usg=AFQjCNFt1cItM0A-k1n0IL0taqZM12Qeew&sig2=JArjXOQ-zXXOMl2g6mCfMg
Certainly such a model of could be produced with a linear servo.....but the scale is daunting >>:-( ....other means of opening & closing deck hatches are chains & sprockets....but in real life <:( even with rollers & guides...unless the motion is applied evenly on both sides of the hatch invariably they want to CRAB & sieze up O0
I will watch with interest to see how you ovecome this challange ..... :-)) Derek
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Hi Ken
Yep, I was looking at it on ebay too. A couple of the shots here might interest you http://offiler.demon.co.uk/gallery/index.php/Gry_Maritha :}
Can't wait to see this build progress
Dave
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:o ...just thinking Ken...there is one simple possability {-)
From left to right the fixed hinge point>>>>>the hatch combing>>> the hatch pivot point>>>the hatch rollers...tied down to an arm where the rotating shaft is locked
The rotating shaft is a length of threaded bar 8BA....????
The reversable drive is an old servo with the limit stops removed :D ....Derek
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Derek. I thought as much whilst staring at it during a coffee break. 8)
The hatches would have to open each time we need to look inside for normal boat running duties. Quite easy to catch one's wrist on the upturned hatches and maybe do some damage as they are plastic. When its assembled I might consider re-doing them in stronger material.
ps There are two sets of hatches which touch in the middle. The initial thrust is directly upwards in the join of each two before they can draw outwards to slide sideways. I can see this running and running as we experiment with the movement.
I shall have a go at motorising them later. At the moment, everything is being dry cut and fitted before paint and glue. Only 926 more parts to fit !!
Dave. Thank you for the picture gallery. Every picture helps when building something. I like to collect as much info as I can. It's amazing how much detail one needs to make a proper job of it. O0
ken
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Kenny I remember someone did this build shortly after I joined the Forum and I thought it a very nice model then.
You really seem to be doing it justice. Keep the posts coming in.
Geoff
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Hi Ken,
I open the two hatches and the side hatch on my Gry Maritha with one servo per hatch and a servo slow down. Works excellent.
Regards
Wilhelm
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So do I, Pugwash. ;) It was reported here many years ago and there is a YouTube film of his build so far but it seems to have never been completed. It was started by my friend 'Wombat' and he did the side loading hatchway with motorised ramps and computer chips.
I hope to emulate him in the gadget department. There's plenty of room inside this boat for working parts etc, so I'll give it a try.
We haven't discussed the crane yet ....... ooh er %) See if we can get help from the French builders. 8)
Thanks for the info Wilhem and welcome indeed to another builder. I should be very interested indeed to see your build. How may I ?
ken
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Hi Ken,
here is the link to my Gry Maritha in this forum:
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=25645.0
Good luck with yours. The Gry is one of the finest models. I just ordered a Yorkshireman here in Canada.
Best
Wilhelm
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Hi Wilhelm.
Yes I saw this and it encouraged me to start mine. I don't expect to reach your level but I'm going to give it a good try. It is truly smashing. Well done on your build. :-)) I refer to your pictures many times.
If you see me going wrong, please let me know early enough so that I can get back on track.
ken
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Thanks for the compliment Ken, I learned a lot from your postings here on model boat mayhem.
One things comes to mind right away. Make sure you can not turn the crane when the hatch is open, otherwise it will cause some damage on the model. I solved the problem with a couple of microswitches.
Best
Wilhelm
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ooh !! could be nasty :o Thanks for that.
cheers
Ken
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Onwards with the build .....
The last few days have been spent making little boxes of all sorts of shapes. These are the fuel tanks for the deck and various containers.
The cabin and the wheelhouse were then glued together and now await undercoat and fixing down.
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It'll soon be maiden voyage time at this rate! Perhaps we'll see her at Wicksteed next year? Keep up the good work, Dave. :-))
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Cheers Dave. oh it is lovely to have the parts marked out for one. 8) Can't praise Model Slipway gear enough, and it all fits as well.
I counted out 24 extremely tiny metal parts to attach to the tops of the petrol storage containers and when I fitted them, there was one missing !!! Now how did that happen. Can't find it anywhere. Hey Ho. More fun tomorrow.
ken
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the build looks great keep the pictures coming :-)
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Thank you.
No building today as the new Soooper Tesco is opened and 'er indoors' wanted to go see. Large. I should coco. My poor old pins are cracking up so it's back to the computer now for the rest of the day. {-) {-)
ken
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Me and Hannah damn near got lost in that Tesco the other day... Blimey is it big...
Boats looking great mate :-))
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O0 too big for me. I only went for the coffee stirring sticks.
I'll try and pop around this week to buy some more boaty bits
ken
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Hi Ken, I'm back <*<
You haven't got time to shop.
Boats looking good. :-))
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Be straight on it tomorrow Guv.
ken
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Thanks for the compliment. I missed that after I saw the Truncheon.
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I'll try and pop around this week to buy some more boaty bits
Kettle primed and ready ;)
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The boat & build is beautiful Ken. I wish it was still available I for one would buy it in the blink of an eye. I would still like to build it though, I have no experience with scratch building. If anybody has a suggestion my ears are wide open, PM me. I don't want to hijack Kens terrific thread. Keep it going Ken. I will be watching with much interest. Mick B.
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Thank you Mick. Very nice of you to say.
Looks like tomorrow is booked, drinking tea with locals. :}
ken
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Good stuff mate, don't forget our tranny too :-)
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My favourite job .... Paint spraying. Covers a multitude of sins. :}
All the little boxes and extras have been covered in red oxide spray paint
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I had an old tin of dark blue which I thought might look the job on the container.
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The first top coat of White was then applied, and left in the sun to evaporate the fumes. This will be left now for two days to let the paint cure, and then we will apply a final top coat.
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Then it was on the the terrifying job. Cutting the Hull for the lift up door and loading ramp.
A cut was made inside the line , with a Dremmel mini circular saw, and the the edges were filed down to bring it to the line. This was done gently as there was a risk of fracturing the gel coat and if we got it wrong, then the Hull would be damaged. Luckily, we got away with it and it fits nice.
A piece of 2mm plastic was shaped to fit the gap. We have now come indoors to work out how to do the rest !! :}
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As an aside, here is a little device I've made to ensure bits of Plastic glued together stay at 90 degrees whilst drying. Very handy when making little boxes etc. :-))
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Ken
Great to see you're maintaining your usual high standard of modelling. Lucky with the weather today!
I'm sure it's a silly question but why does your magic device have a piece of wood on top?
Mike
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Thank you mike.
The aluminium heat sink has it's fins nailed through the wood into a cut down cupboard door which was covered in melamine. The wood runs along the top of the fins making for an unmoveable wall.
The angle is exactly 90 degrees and the parts can be pushed up tight and held for the first 5 seconds of glueing. Inside corners can be glued using the acute edge of the wall and around the side.
Sometimes the 'Plastiweld' runs through the gap and sticks the whole lot to the aluminium. When dry, I find it cracks apart easy with a dulled kitchen knife down the back. :} All in all, a great little unit.
ken
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Ken
All is explained! I thought it was a solid chunk of aluminium.
I usually use a try sguare covered with Clingfilm or Sellotape and held down with masking tape. If I had any common sense, like you, I would make something permanent!
Mike
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Yes, it's solid. Gotta start with a good right angle and everything falls into place.
With this Model Slipway pre-marked out 1mm plastic it's noticeable when you join to the edge or place it on top of the edge and make a box. Get one the wrong way around and it goes out of square. ;) i do like making little boxes. {-)
ken
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Today I worked on the opening side hatch. I have the aperture cut out and boxed in. The rear deck and the front cabin have been epoxied down. I'm leaving the centre deck loose at the moment because the access through would be making working inside a little difficult.
Here's a few pictures of the under-coated parts loosely fitted around the boat to get a general impression.
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yes .... the paint did come off when I removed the tape. Either it's good tape or a rubbish spray job. {-)
Gonna need sanding down to make a good adhesion methinks.
Here's a close up on the hatch, and a few around the decks.
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Finaly for today, heres a view around the stern. I've added a few cardboard containers that I've made (from the web) but probably won't use them.
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Hi Ken did you prime your boat before painting it ?
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I'm afraid I just sprayed Red Oxide straight onto the smooth plastic. I've since experimented with this orrible result and it just crumbles off.
Looks like I'll have to clean it off and start again. Good job I haven't done the Hull yet. %)
Regards
Ken
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Been there and done that too... O0
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This is a nice build Ken and there's plenty for a novice like me to learn from following it
Paint is a point I have yet to reach - but I'll sure be asking questions when I do. For now
I'll see how you sort it.
Dave
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Doesn't look like you should come to me {-) {-) {-)
Seriously, this is a blow as I've worshipped Red Oxide for it's staying power. I can only assume that spraying outside in winter time is not a good idea.
ken
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I'm afraid I just sprayed Red Oxide straight onto the smooth plastic. I've since experimented with this orrible result and it just crumbles off.
Looks like I'll have to clean it off and start again. Good job I haven't done the Hull yet. %)
Regards
Ken
Hi Ken
Don't want to tell you how to suck lemons but did you lightly roughen up the smooth plastic first?
Brian
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Hi Brian
The word you're looking for is NO.
I post this because I'd like to save others from heart ache. <:(
ken
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KEN KEN KEN HOW many time have I got to tell you and you still get it WRONG <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*< <*<JUST listen to your Uncle Stav and you wont go far wrong will you.......I really don't know what I am going to do with you....I think you should go to the corner of the room face the corner and don't come out for at least 2 weeks LOL.
As long as it's not raining or damp spraying outside in a WELL SHELTERED area you will be OK
NOW pin your ears back and LISTEN....
Painting PLASTIC
De grease with panel wipe
RUB DOWN with a fine grit,anything above 800 will be fine
Spray it max of 2 coats and leave 48hrs to dry
Dave
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That's why I post. I welcome advice.
Hi Dave, Thank you once again for setting me straight.
I shall follow your instructions to the letter. :kiss:
Nice to have you back as we missed you and your subtle advice column. :}
ken
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Thanks Ken just couldnt HELP myself could I :-))
Dave
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I tried telling Kenny the crane wouldn't fit on the deck of Gry Maritha! O0
Good to see you today in Gloucester, hope you had a good trip back across the Severn. I did run into those rain clouds on the way back up the M5. Dave. :-))
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Now that's what I call a good camera. :} Made me look all nautical. {-) {-)
Yes. Home safely with my boxed Aziz kit. Cheers for that. I suppose I'll have do another blog soon. I'm going to try and make this one water-proof.
Great nautical day out in Gloucester Docks. Lovely surroundings if anyone wants to visit.
Cheers
Ken
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Onwards with the build, we decided the hatch covers were a little weak.
A new set has been cut from plywood and fitted using plastic square beams as supports and hinges with steel nuts and bolts. The movements are quite smooth and parallel. All we need is the servos to arrive from China (waiting 4 weeks so far)
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The side door was also connected using the plastic and this works quite well by hand. The deck is not secured down yet so it's not squared up.
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It was then off to the Bow section to fit the stanchions. These should have been 7mm plastic but they also proved a little weak. After all, there was to be a top rail across them and the way I drive, add a few bumps !. We made new ones from plywood and shaped them to fit the curvature of the hull.
A thicker rail was epoxied on top and is a bit slow to dry this weather so it's still taped down. The top cabin was glued into place and the roof left loose until the internals are fitted out.
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Here we are at the present
1. Hatches up
2. Hatches down
I'm really looking forward to see these move under electricity. %)
ken
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Coming on really nicely Ken.
Ali.
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Thank you Ali. Perhaps I should spend some of my boat money on a replacement Gas canister. BRRRRR !!!!
ken
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All my stuff's in the garage and this time of year It's a no go area unless I dress up like I'm going to the north pole.
I've got one of those halogen heaters but it's useless unless you're stood right next to it then it melts your skin off so you can't win.
Ali.
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Went into the icebox today to survey the failed epoxy.
I put a separate inquiry on Mayhem about it not going off. yes, the cold was too much for it so I've stripped it all off and wiped down as best I could. Here's some pictures which don't really show the sticky mess, but it's sorted now.
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The decks were sanded to rough up the surface and cleaned and sprayed with red oxide. I might bring her into the house for the evening to keep her warm. %)
If this adheres well then I shall attempt the Hull.
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Storing her in the house overnight worked wonders with the drying so yesterday I got the big cans out.
I tried a different approach this time by spraying the upper works first. (I was dying to see the blue go one and what it would look like)
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Although it doesn't show it, the light grey spray was a faulty can. The gas has almost run out and the paint spit all over the boat in dollops. {:-{
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I spent most of this morning sanding the grey with 400 grit wet n dry and plenty of water. This will have to be re-done again. I dried the mess with my hot air gun and taped her up ready for the bottom spray.
This proved to be lovely paint !! It's great when you get a good tin with a fine nozzle. The work came out so well that it made my day. 8)
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Looking good :-))
Sam
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:embarrassed:
Thank you 110samec. I was quite surprised by the pleasant result. Isn't it nice when it goes right. One success can overdo loads of failures. ;)
ken
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Hi, looking good.
what brand of spray paint are you using?
Dave
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Hi Dave,
I'm using the car paints from Halfords. I shall be returning tomorrow as the blue is running out and I thought I might get some decent grey. Unfortunately I haven't seen a light grey car so don't know if they do this colour. The grey I had was faulty because it came from a cheap shop. You only get what you pay for , I guess.
ken
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:embarrassed:
Thank you 110samec. I was quite surprised by the pleasant result. Isn't it nice when it goes right. One success can overdo loads of failures. ;)
ken
Think You had a dammed good TEACHER lol
Dave
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Looking good.
Its sad that MS have withdrawn a number of kits such as Conserver, Drumbeat and Gry over the years. I find it difficult to believe that other kits such as puffer, drifter & Vliestroom outsold them (or perhaps they did!).
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Your right there Dave. Good preparation was all that was called for.. Painted like a dream. I'll get the colour name from which car tomorrow.
Thank you again for the advice. :-))
ken
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Thanks Justboatonic. The picture does her proud.
My Wife just came in the room and I said look at the pictures, doesn't she look shiny. She said yes, I can also see it in the front room !!!! (They just don't appreciate it.) {-)
ken
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Great job Ken. Keep up the good work, you do her justice O0 O0 O0.
Best
Wilhelm
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Thanks Justboatonic. The picture does her proud.
My Wife just came in the room and I said look at the pictures, doesn't she look shiny. She said yes, I can also see it in the front room !!!! (They just don't appreciate it.) {-)
ken
LOL! I know what you mean Ken! When I was building the MSW Envoy, I got similar comments from SWMBO about it being on the breakfast table for so long. I mean, its not like we dont have another larger table to eat off! :-))
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Now able to to return to the workshop. I've been quietly spraying the decks with a nice light brown I've found in 'Halfords'
I've also darkened the hatch doors and fitted them with nuts and bolts, ready for hinging with servos. (if they ever arrive from China ?!. Paid for 6 weeks ago, but no sign yet)
The pivoting side door re painted smooth (paint run noticed so further sanding mmhph!!) and a new Bow rail secured with superglue.
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Good to see you are "back at it" Ken.
Its looking good.
Will be in the workroom myself later.
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Today I put the ridge around the cabin and have been busy (in the sunshine ??) spraying up more bits. I let them dry for half an hour (and get rid of the smell) then brought them in to the warm.
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Very nice Ken, not sure about your photography though. :}
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No getting past you Richard. :} One of my fluorescents is out and I forgot to tidy up.
The servos finally arrived from China so I'm looking forward to a life of 'Automation' on her. Gonna need 12 channels on the radio. mmm!!
ken
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No getting past you Richard. :} One of my fluorescents is out and I forgot to tidy up.
The servos finally arrived from China so I'm looking forward to a life of 'Automation' on her. Gonna need 12 channels on the radio. mmm!!
ken
You havent enough fingers for that R/C Ken :}
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Being Keyboard Ken He probably has a 'One Man Band' set up to work the switches when he stamps his feet and wiggles his bum Richard %% %%
Ned
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Went out to the workshop today as it seemed a little warmer and the bones weren't creaking so much.
It's strange when you come back to something you've built and see it through the eyes of a stranger. That looks wrong and this ain't right, you say to yourself. Well, I though the painting on rear deck looked a bit blotchy by the containers so, I decided to remove the glued down boxes.
Big mistake ...... They ripped the floor underneath so I've had to make a new rear deck. :embarrassed: This has taken a long time to get right and it's yet to be painted. Wish I'd stayed in the warm house now.
Ken
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Here's the " Before and After" pictures
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Upon seeing these pictures, I've realised the hole in the rear deck is rather large.
I've now cut deck number three %) to accommodate the rear container as a lift off lid. I've under-coated and top coated in a dark brown this time. (all sanded nice and smooth and clean, Dave. :-)) )
The side boxes were sanded down again as they were difficult to paint in situ, so these have been primed ready for spraying again. Must say, I feel better about the effect now, so here's a few pictures.
Tomorrow we start on the motors and controls. Brass Props on order.
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OOh that looks a lot better Ken. :-)) Geo
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Thank you Geo. Dance floors R Us. :}
Ken
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Hi Kenny, you sure do your builds in a hurry. I really like this particular model, it is a pity that Model Slipway quit making their kit. The new paint looks much better now. Mick B.
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Cheers Mick.
Working on the fitting the motors today. I hate it when the deck is on. It's like trying to wall paper the hall through the letter box. :}
Ken
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Any more updates? This is a very interesting ship with lots of character, pity you can no longer get it.
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Sorry for the long delay. :} Will continue soon.
I have been under instructions to spring clean ??? and get rid of 'stuff' I've been hoarding all my life to make for a more relaxing retirement.
My good lady has the theory that if it's gone then I can't think about it and will have a clearer mind. I suppose I must have 'scrapped' stuff that would make someone weep, but I couldn't find them to let them know ??
I did find more boat kits in the loft so there's not going to be a dull moment this year. 8)
ken
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There's no hope for me then I've just been through an 'Spring Clean' ..well for me here more like a 'Autum clean :-) and I still have at least 35 years to retire! Dare I ask what 'things' you have scrapped?? Do I want to know without cringing? ;)
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I did find more boat kits in the loft
You can't just make a blank statement like that Ken, and then leave us all hanging ...........................
What boats? :P
How's the shingles now Ken?
Dave
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Dare I ask what 'things' you have scrapped?? Do I want to know without cringing? ;)
Hi Mike,
I was an Electronic Organ & Piano engineer for 30 years. I had a workshop full of components collected over the years. Thousands of resistors and capacitors and switches and wires etc, etc. Not forgetting spare keys for most of the makes of electronic keyboards.
When I took them to the tip, it was a clean freshly emptied skip and they covered the complete floor and made a racket being dumped. The 'Tip man' came over and shouted " no business waste here ". By then it was to late so I got away with it. Then it was the turn of the circuit diagrams into the paper waste. That hurt as it was a lifetimes knowledge gone.
I am now officially a retired old grump. {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
ken
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You can't just make a blank statement like that Ken, and then leave us all hanging ...........................
What boats? :P
How's the shingles now Ken?
Dave
Hi Dave,
The Wife's Shingles are receding nicely Dave. Thank you for your concern, we have turned the corner and all is well.
Regarding the boat stock, here is a brief list of the boats awaiting my graunchy hand ...
Aziz ... new in the box
Boston typhoon un-started. Half a kit with many parts lost.
3 foot sailing Yacht hull and deck only
Large white swan from garden centre ??
Paddle steamer Glasgow half built
3 fibreglassed Tug hulls, similar style to Imara
2 toy speed boat hulls for fast engines !!
Titanic kit from Mini craft.
Baby Severn lifeboat kit from RNLI
I look forward to getting back to the Gry Maritha soon, but first I have to make some more shelves for my fleet.
Titanic five & a half feet long
Severn five feet long and weighing in at 100 lbs
Waverley five foot long
Lady wooes
Hibernia
Gry maritha
Springer tug rescue boat
Springer Tug PC springer
Springer tug WaveSpringerley
Hey Ho, it's a grand life
ken
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:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
You are going to be busy for a very long time Ken.
I'm sooooo jealous O0
Dave
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We are back in the workshop %) The boat is such a mess since we left her that a clean up was needed and a respray.
The white was re-done and today we covered that, ready for the Blue. Upon using the rattle can the button snapped off and blue paint went everywhere. mmph!!! I used the cover to collect the spurting paint (outside in the garden) and held it there until all the gas was gone. Our patio is now flecked a strange shade, much to the non amusement of 'er indoors'. Not sure what to do with it. Perhaps by tomorrow it will all have evaporated away. %) %) %)
I decided to get on with the mast and this turned out quite nice. It was a pleasure to get back into it. I decided not to bother wiring up any mast lights as it would have been very labour intensive and a delicate operation. Have to concentrate on electric hatches and crane.
Ken
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The new Blue has been sprayed on and the cabin roof darkened. When it's thoroughly dried we can finish of the red base.
Couldn't resist putting all the sub assemblies on to see how it's shaping up.
ken
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Couldn't resist putting all the sub assemblies on to see how it's shaping up.
I think you will find Ken that a lot of us suffer from these same urges, seems to be a common sympton of the modeller ;)
The new paint job looks really good. :-))
Michael
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Thank you Michael. It sort of gives us inspiration to carry on when the parts are ready to fit.
I still have not fixed down the deck as I want to get the below decks stuff fitted first. (makes life easier!!) Tomorrow I'll try out the motors. The battery is on charge. 8)
ken
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What I really like about making model ships is that you become just like a mini shipyard, testing motors prefabricating parts etc..final trials,
fixing problems.. it's just wonderful.
I must say that I do like the Gry Maritha if Modelslipway was still making it then I definitely would have got it.
Ken what type of paints are you using for your model? Are you still Airbrushing?
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Oh yes. I use the car aerosol spray paints from Halfords car shops.
I must be on my 50th tin by now. {-) even though I have a compressor and all the guns. Never got around to the messy mixing stage, as it's still unused.
ken
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she is looking really nice Ken, I like the colour scheme, :-))
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I agree with the above. its looking great. Itll look superb on the water.
Just try not to scratch the paint %)
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Cheers guys. Yes, I shall be looking after the paint work from now on. :}
I read a tip on this illustrious site and it works lovely. Use "T cut" on your sprayed surface and it removes those tiny droplets you get sometimes and smooths the surface like a Billiard table. O0
Sometimes you have to spray downwards, rather than level and the odd drop of paint drips out.
Here's a picture of the dance floor.
ken
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Just noticed I need to re-do the blue edging strip. :embarrassed:
ken
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The Blue ridge has been finished off and then I started fitting the sub assemblies into the bow section.
First there are the rope winches and then we made up the anchor winch assembly and sprayed it with undercoat and then a nice blue.
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Notice the projecting walkway and ladder. An extra piece had to be cut and formed to make this. It would have been nice if I had spotted this 'extra when I cut the top deck !! as I could have made a firmer design all from one sheet of plastic. Lets hope no-one pushes on it too hard. %)
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That is really nice Ken.
Cheers
Jon
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Cheers Jon.
Yesterday I spent most of my time making and "trying" to fit the mast hoops. Ho Hum. 1mm rod bent around a tube and cut to circles. Spring apart to clip into mast sides and solder supporting vertical rods.
Story ends after 3 hours with mast damaged. radars on floor. supports broken off. Solder blobs in wrong places and 3 secs away from stepping on it. Must try harder. Now getting up the courage to go in today. <:(
Ken
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Cheers Jon.
Yesterday I spent most of my time making and "trying" to fit the mast hoops. Ho Hum. 1mm rod bent around a tube and cut to circles. Spring apart to clip into mast sides and solder supporting vertical rods.
Story ends after 3 hours with mast damaged. radars on floor. supports broken off. Solder blobs in wrong places and 3 secs away from stepping on it. Must try harder. Now getting up the courage to go in today. <:(
Ken
Sounds like quite a task. I am sure you will emerge victorious from the fray!
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A good nights sleep and I shall be ready for the challenge.
Any one want to see the photos? %)
ken
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I'll risk it Ken (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/MOST_P1.gif)
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OK Richard
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After
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With a spring in my step, I galloped on.
I've started fitting the deck furniture, so here is a montage of some close ups. (warts and all)
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Montage continued
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I looked down inside the hatch and discovered a slightly painted motor assembly ??
The batteries are on charge ready for the main wiring ahead. I plan to not secure the deck until all the big stuff is firmly fixed below.
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Hi Ken
Your mast looks great after your fix. I must say that I feel for you when things do not go quite as you would like! The main thing is that you were able to work through the problem, thats what makes this hobby so satisfying.
The models looking great. especially all the fittings. Very Smart :-))
Regards
Mike
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Very nice work on the mast Ken.
The Ship is looking really good.
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Thank you everyone. Yes, it is always better after a good nights sleep. :} When I came to it the next day, it didn't look so bad, so I approached it like a new job. Mind you, I'm glad its done.
Missed a day's playing as the grass cutter was cleaned off by "Er indoors" and nature took over. {-)
ken
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I have finally electrified the hatch covers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2qCuO7RG7M&feature=plcp&context=C46d936eVDvjVQa1PpcFMhr52u6BN8yUdS-2DD7B4jFpTHg3Pop78%3D
This was achieved by fitting two servos with extended arms under each end of the hatches. I use the Slow setting switch on my R/C and have wired the two servos together. The result has come out better than expected.
Ken
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Gry entered dry dock in Penzance today.
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Thank you Channel.
Anyone close enough to take some pictures please ? A new film has come up on 'You Tube' showing her coming into harbour. It's a mine of information as it shows the 'tatty' paintwork and differences in colour scheme. I have a few extra details but only of the Port side ! and now need details of the starboard side with the crane etc. :}
Cheers
Ken
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Spent the day working on the crane and realised there's more to electrifying it than I imagined.
First of all it's imperative that the boom is raised before a turn is activated as it will tear the arm rest away and knock the container tops off !! ooh er. I will need some crossover switching system to prevent this, so it's back to the drawing board.
Ken
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She's looking really good ken you have made a nice job of building her,Cant wait to see her finished.As you have said its a pity they have discontinued this lovely model
Keep up the good work :-))
regards
Bill
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Thank you Bill. Also thanks to the members who sent pictures of the real ship.
Her condition these days is quite shabby so it encourages me to continue as I can emulate this condition quite easily. :}
ken
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Hi Ken,
I did encounter the same problem with the crane. I added a long pin that goes from the centre of the cradle down into the hull. The pin is lifted upwards by a few millimeters by a soft spring. I attached a tiny magnet on the lower end of the pin and mounted a reed contact beside it. When the boom hits the cradle it pushes the pin down and the magnet opens the reed contact and interrupts the power to the turn motor. When you lift the boom the pin lifts upwards by a couple of millimeters and the reed contact closes the connection to the turn motor. Works perfect.
Regards
Wilhelm
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What a smart solution. I agree that a switch Must be put in rotating circuit to prevent the crane bashing it's way across the boat when it's too low.
Went out before breakfast to check on setting glue. How keen is that then !!. The pillar is now secure so I can experiment with the upwards pushing forces I am designing.
Not sure if I shall bother with the hook going up and down as the weight on the end wouldn't be heavy enough to drag it downwards as a free-fall type of mechanism. we'll see how it goes.
ken
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Will be in Penzance Saturday so will see what I can do Ken!
Thank you Channel.
Anyone close enough to take some pictures please ? A new film has come up on 'You Tube' showing her coming into harbour. It's a mine of information as it shows the 'tatty' paintwork and differences in colour scheme. I have a few extra details but only of the Port side ! and now need details of the starboard side with the crane etc. :}
Cheers
Ken
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That will be super, Channel. It's only the above waterline locations of all the objects that I was after. My stick-on transfers are missing so I need to know what labels and signs are on board so that I can reproduce them on my printer. Very kind of you. I hope she's in dock.
You might be amazed by her 'used' condition.
thank you
Ken
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Back out to the workshop after an early breakfast (well it is the first day of spring !!) and started on the crane.
It's glued down tight to the (as yet unglued) deck so I've fitted the turning drive shaft and lower gear wheel. I have a bar running through and up to push the lever arm of the boom.
It now swivels and raises the boom by hand. :} The picture give you an idea of the layout. Also shown is the secret of the lifting hatch covers. %) Simple is best.
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The black tape under the hatches contains lead weights to bring them down on their return as there is no reverse drive here.
Here is a close up of the lower crane drive system. As only the white part at the top turns I made a shaft to run up through and connect to it. The drive gear has been glued on to the bottom end and will connect to the motor.
With regards to the motor, I am using a modified servo. I've spent the afternoon modifying two servos by removing their stops to allow them to continuously rotate. Details follow when they are working.
The white box below this contains the R/X and when the deck is fitted it will be at it's highest point for better reception.
I've just noticed that the Hook wire will also be travelling up through this pipe so I hope it doesn't get tangle up. %)
ken
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Titanic five & a half feet long
Hi Ken
is this Titanic a model kit or are you making it from scratch? It's not the 1/144 Semi is it?
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Hi Mike
Than you for your interest. Titanic was made from scratch totally, as the scale I chose was 1:175. By using pictures and small plastic models, I translated the scales to be able to construct the shapes I wanted.
I have a considerable pile of literature and information and my plan is to make another one (better ?? they all say that) as the old version has accumulative faults that can no longer be altered.
cheers
ken
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A pleasant weekend spent fitting the railings to the stern. It's not as easy as it looks !! That's some stiff wire there. %)
Anyway, we got there in the end and here's the result before painting.
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The glue had dried on the servo crane drive box so it was onwards and upwards. Here is the line-up of the components. I have been making brackets and bearings all day and still not quite come up with the ideal fitting.
Once it's glued under the deck then working on it will be a nightmare so I have to think of removable servos and motors, should the need arise. I am getting there but I have nothing to show yet.
This is the second box as the original was the wrong size when it came to fitting out. :embarrassed:
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Still working on the controls for the crane.
I was in the garden for a sun bathe and a cup of tea when this flew in to see how I was getting on. :-))
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Ken you totally sure it was tea that you were drinking and Not Grouse whiskey {-) {-)
Dave
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It does look like a Grouse doesn't it. I wouldn't know of course, being too young.
ken
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Two weeks later and the moving parts are all electrified. 8)
I've made a short film to show all the moving bits together and the deck is now glued down. ooh er !!! I'm committed now, so if anything breaks or is wrong then I've had it. :}
Here you go. Please remember I'm filming with one hand and controlling an R/C with the other, so smooooth is out the window.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYfD8fUYO3o&feature=youtu.be
cheers
ken
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Hi Ken
I enjoyed the video - but now I'm getting strange urges for keyboard music O0
I might try the eight minutes of it on your Boston Typhoon build next .....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1boGriUEDCI&feature=endscreen&NR=1
(for anyone who hasn't seen it)
btw Ken I've finally decided I can't afford the Mountfleet kit. <:( (my house needs some work)
Dave
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Thanks Dave.
Then you won't be able to afford a Hammond organ then. {-)
Sorry the film is jittery.
ken
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Ken,
I have put a few pictures of Gry Maritha on my blog - taken of her coming out of dry dock. See - www.channelimages.com
Here's a preview!
Chris
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tk6DOCMR2e0/T3qlK5u7OrI/AAAAAAAABsU/a8_-2Hk37P8/s1600/Cornwall%2BD300%2B088.jpg)
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Thank you Chris. Great set of pictures. Every time I see her there's always something different to make note of. Unfortunately, as a working vessel, she looks like something I've painted, which is just as well as I feel more confident now.
I had a look around your blog and was impressed with the quality. Some lovely clear shots of various craft. Highly recommended everyone. Have a look. :-))
Regards
Ken
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With the automatics all done, it was time to glue down the deck. As the windows were all misted up with glue vapours I decided to do them again using cockpit glue.
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As there were no labels with this kit, I thought I'd make my own. This involved a lot of Photoshop work and searching for suitable signs. We got there in the end and here's the printed out sheets ready for cutting and fitting.
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The cabin deck was painted to match the main deck and the non working fire hose assembly was fitted.
Here's an overview of the work done so far. We are technically ready to sail her now, but first it's the 'Bath test'. No photos will be released until it checks out OK. You know my reputation. %)
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Looking good Ken,
Thanks for your kind words on my blog - I do try to please.
Cheers
Chris
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Morning Ken.....those ESSO fuel pods......do they represent a scale 1000 litre?......[we don't have them in OZ yet {-)] ......Derek
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Looking good Ken,
Thanks for your kind words on my blog - I do try to please.
Cheers
Chris
Hi Chris,
I'm working on the davits this morning. I have close ups on the pictures and I have a strip of metal coming from the the big arm to where ? it might be a clamp to keep the arm in stowage, but would move when the boat is lowered.
ken
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Morning Ken.....those ESSO fuel pods......do they represent a scale 1000 litre?......[we don't have them in OZ yet {-)] ......Derek
Hi Derek,
They are chained to the deck to stop people stealing them. {-) {-) {-) {-)
ken
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That part is fixed to the David ARM and stops the boat going in too far when stowed as the falls will be slightly onboard of the center line (I think you know what I been)
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Does this mean it travels out with arm when the boat is lowered. ?
ken
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Yes each davit has that stop post which will make contact with the rubbing strake of the boat.
They help guide the boat to land on two more for the keel when it is set for sea
Sorry I'm on my phone so can't add picture assistance.
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Perfectly understood now. Thank you very much. :-))
I'm off to do some more glueing, then it's the bath test.
ken
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Today I did a little 'Railings' work.
Rather than drill holes in the deck and place stanchions in them, I decided to dry make them on the bench.
I marked out on a piece of scrap wood, the positions, and taped them down. I then ran the brass wire through them and soldered in situ. I was then able to offer the assembly up to the deck and mark and drill the holed in one go. The first side went well and I glued them in place.
The other side was made but I thought I'd paint them before fitting to prevent paint splashes going on the deck. I shall try this tomorrow and take a picture then.
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I have also completed the Life canisters and the side light holders and placed them in their fittings.
The lifeboat is on along with the Davits but there is no picture yet.
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Perfectly understood now. Thank you very much. :-))
I'm off to do some more glueing, then it's the bath test.
ken
Pleased you got your answer Ken, had a busy few days so not been on the forum.
Chris
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Cheers Chris. I do like to know where details are and what they're for, so all's well now.
Had a great day with the railings. I must say it feel like the home straight now.
They are painted and fitted as shown below. Only the Bridge house set to make now. Seems I have to chauffeur to the big shops today. %)
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Very nice work Kenny; I have one of these models but I had no idea that Model Slipway had discontinued the kit. Here's a good photo of the boat at low tide that you might not have seen:-
http://www.westcornwallphotos.co.uk/westcornwallphotos/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Gry.jpg
Cheers
Simon
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I do hope the kit comes out again -I am keen to build her again. I had one previously but sold it - oops!
The model slipway hull does not include the 'box keel' as seen here.
Chris
(http://iloapp.trythallshipping.co.uk/data/_gallery/public/7/1249502496_resized.jpg)
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Any more dry dock pix Chris? That's interesting.
Dave
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(http://iloapp.trythallshipping.co.uk/data/_gallery//public/7/1249502850_resized.jpg?width=692&height=464)
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(http://iloapp.trythallshipping.co.uk/data/_gallery//public/7/1249502713_resized.jpg?width=693&height=464)
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Thanks Chris. That's amazing.
Thanks for the details. Might add them myself. %)
ken
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It could become a very popular pastime - finding new Gry Maritha detailing
Just to stop you ever completing her O0 ;D
Dave
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We are nearly at the end of the build. %) maybe!!!
Fitted the railings to the the upper deck roof and a few trimmings around the decks.
A helicopter arrived to inspect her. {-) {-)
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Here's the upper railings.
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I've made a packing case for the side entrance. I suppose I'll have to try her out on the water next. %)
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That looking really good Ken It must be almost set for sea trials?
One question regarding the railing Do you end up hand painting the railing? I'm just thinking that it could be quite a pain masking the deck if the railing is already fitted if you wanted to spray it.
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I never spray paint the railings as it uses too much paint. I find the hand painted enamel works a treat, especially the runny stuff I've got in this batch, as it runs around the curves.
I managed to construct some of them outside of the boat so painting was easy. However, some were constructed 'in situ' as the compound curves were awkward. These were painted on the boat very carefully. Even so, the next day I looked and found some runs from the stanchions onto the deck. It wasn't much but this now looks like tiny white washers around the base. :}
ken
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We got her the water at last.
Took the opportunity of launching her at the Mayhem meeting at Wicksteed park. Here's the film of her going through her stuff. Quite a turn of speed with those twin props and she behaved impeccably. I really enjoyed sailing her. See if you recognise anyone on the film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xGtzkYFxs8&feature=youtu.be
cheers
ken
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I have brought this build blog to the front as she is now up for sale.
It makes it easier for people to find it. :}
Please see the sales section if you are interested.
Cheers
ken
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Hi Ken
Looking good I lived on the isles of Scilly for 18 years so know the Gry well !! As it happens I'm lead to be leave I bought the last ever full kit of the Gry that was made by model slipway.Must get round to building it one day!!!
Cheers
Mike
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You'll enjoy it Mike. It will take some time so clear the decks. :}
Mine is now sold, so I shall miss it, sitting on the shelf. Even my Wife liked it, and that's saying something. Watch out for swinging crane arm it can swing around and poke you in the eye. {-)
Cheers
k