Model Boat Mayhem

Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Norseman on November 18, 2011, 02:45:19 pm

Title: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Norseman on November 18, 2011, 02:45:19 pm
If anyone has the info, I would like to know about 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'. I didn't understand a reference to it and I'm a nosy tyke. No other info known :}

Regards Dave
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Netleyned on November 18, 2011, 03:13:38 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RC-Boat-Ship-Waterproof-110A-Motor-Speed-Controller-ESC-/130554115725?pt=UK_ToysGames_RadioControlled_JN&hash=item1e65a1b68d#ht_6672wt_952


Is this the one?
There have been a lot of burnouts of these units used by forum members.
I have one in a dickie tug conversion and have had no problems to date.
My 7yr old grandson has run the tug for the best part of two hours and mostly at full throttle
I tested it in the bath with a nasty Johnson 540 running threequarters throttle and it just got slightly warm.
I thik Dave aka No 6 has had a problem though

Ned
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Norseman on November 18, 2011, 03:52:19 pm
Hi Ned

thanks for replying - maybe it is about that one - don't know. The price of £11 all in for that amp seems too good to be true (but what do I know lol). In fact it reminds me of Marlon Brando in Guys and Dolls talking about sucker bets - something about The Jack coming out of a top pocket and squirting cider in his eye (you would have to have seen the film). As I say though it's all new to me and I'm willing to learn - so yours has been ok but others have had problems (if fires then thats gonna be expensive).

Dave
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Netleyned on November 18, 2011, 04:32:12 pm
http://www.mtroniks.net/products.asp/subcatID/52/ex-demo-sale.htm

You can save a few bob looking at the above
They are a bit cheaper and post free which is another saving
They are packaged,  guaranteed and indentical to the full price ones
I'm using three at the moment

Ned
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Norseman on November 18, 2011, 04:40:46 pm
Cheers Ned

not seen tha page before. Mtroniks delivery is so fassssssssssssssssst too - had a delivery today  - very speedy.

Dave
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: john s 2 on November 18, 2011, 04:55:38 pm
Dave.Not the ill famed Chinese blue escs. I think its true to say that the quality is variable.The amps rating is best described as optomistic.Also they tend to switch on a bit abruptly.If you are a collecter of shiney things, i have seen them in various colours other than blue.They are cheap at the price but worth a punt.(just).John.   
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Martin (Admin) on November 18, 2011, 05:01:43 pm

 Bluebird's take on the 'The Blue Chinese Speed ESC's'  

 http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=32947.msg325032#msg325032 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=32947.msg325032#msg325032)
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Norseman on November 18, 2011, 07:55:49 pm
Thanks Martin - link was interesting, especially Dodgygeezer post 20

No John - I was advised I needed an Mtroniks Viper Marine 25 and it arrived almost before I ordered it - great service.

I'm new to this hobby and testing stuf etc is beyond me just now - so a reliable vendor with good customer service record  is for me.

What if the Chinese change it to a red case? Do we start the thread all over again  %% {-)

Just from interest - do the boats actually explode or do they just smoulder? And could it happen on the shore side?

Regards Dave
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Norseman on November 18, 2011, 08:18:06 pm
Hey - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8Wvgs9q3js that's the link to the brando cider clip mentioned above  :-) :-)

Dave
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: john s 2 on November 18, 2011, 08:53:27 pm
Dave. the thing most likly to explode in a model boat is a lipo battery.Treated correctly they are ok. But if misused or shorted then a real explosion is possible.U Tube has some video for the unbelivers. I myself have seen escs catch light.A fuse would have prevented this. John.
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: malcolmfrary on November 18, 2011, 08:58:53 pm
Quote
Just from interest - do the boats actually explode or do they just smoulder? And could it happen on the shore side?
An internal fault can happen with anybody's gear, but is less likely with equipment sourced from companies that actually do quality control.  If you get one such, with luck, its just the magic smoke and a nasty smell that comes out.  If its less than good luck, you get an electrical fire.  These are bad because there is a source of energy putting more heat in.  A fuse in the battery feed is a very good idea - the ESC might still be broken, but the boat lives on.
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: fletch62 on November 18, 2011, 09:12:01 pm
i also tried one of the same  cheapos it lasted less than 3 mins on test in the bath it also took days for the smell of burning to go so got losts of ear ache of her in doors
brian
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: fletch62 on November 18, 2011, 09:22:28 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/280736321799?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
this is another one ive tried and had no problems with and its only another couple of quid
brian
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: john s 2 on November 18, 2011, 09:27:42 pm
Looks good.BUT how on earth are the connectors supposed to be able to take 320 amps? It looks like the wires are far to thin and the tamaya plug would just melt. Another case of Chinese amps i fear John.
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Norseman on November 18, 2011, 10:56:03 pm
Thanks John - I will remember about the in line fuse

Brian that's the one to start 'The Red Chinese Speed Ctr' thread with   %) O0

Lipos scare me.

Dave
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: JB on November 18, 2011, 11:15:56 pm


Lipos scare me.

Dave

Dave, it doesn't matter if you use Lipos or Ni-Cads...I have seen Ni-Cads smoke and blow up when mis-treated...follow the rules for the equipment you are using and nothing bad will happen, i speak from experience (not bragging!)... :-)

JB.
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Norseman on November 18, 2011, 11:31:59 pm
True about treatment of all batteries

When I was on the ultrasonic teams there was an instrument being carried on a van in the passenger cab. It 'exploded' and caught fire. If I recall the report correctly. The batteries had been charged with a charger for a previous instrument model. The trigger factor was being placed near the heater in the van - damaged  batteries deformed further and exploded.

Dave
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on November 18, 2011, 11:59:28 pm
Nims and nicads do this

Peter
Title: Re: 'The Blue Chinese Speed Ctr'
Post by: Norseman on November 19, 2011, 02:25:49 am
Hi Peter Thanks

I wonder how many house fires start with batteries?

I've been on and off here tonight - going out soon to pick up my daughter from Liverpool - yes being taken for granted yet again  O0

Dave