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Title: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 13, 2011, 12:01:47 pm


Says it all really.

Yesterday I mixed the two bottle epoxy to secure the hand rail to the fibreglass bow and taped it down.

This morning it's the same consistency as when it was made. The temperature in the Garage is 4 degrees C at the moment but was probably that or less during the night. It was old stock from last year.

I peeled off the tape and have lifted the rail  (with rubber gloves on) and the stuff is running slowly down the hull and is still on the back of the rail.

My question is   'What chemical can I use'  to remove all traces please, and will a new mix adhere satisfactory to any residue ?.     <:(

hoping

Ken

Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: andrewh on December 13, 2011, 12:28:11 pm
Ken

Answer in two parts:

1)  the solvent for Epoxy (uncured) is pretty near any solvent.  Alcohol (meths) is porbably the easiest, but acetone, cellulose thinners and lots of others should work

2)  given the temperature in your garage the Epoxy is just waiting to cure.  all chemical reactions double in speed (we used to be told) for a 10degree rise in temperature (cant remember C or F :(()
so mop off what you don't want with solvent and warm the whole boat to a very warm room temperature and she should set happliy

andrew
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 13, 2011, 03:10:19 pm

Thank you the info Andrew.

I tackled it today and you're right.  It is runny and tacky. I just kept wiping away and it cleaned up reasonable.

As it's an isolated section and I won't need to go there for a while, I shall leave it be and let it dry.  I went down and read the can and it said it must be 70 degrees F to cure.  Must wait for the summer.

I've continued my blog on the Gry Maritha page and have photographed it.

Hey Ho,  thank goodness for Model Boat Mayhem.   :-))


ken
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 13, 2011, 04:45:21 pm
Use a hairdryer on it at low setting Ken.

Colin
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: andrewh on December 13, 2011, 05:08:40 pm
Ken,
glad the solvent worked

Colin is of course dead right - a little applied warmth will do the trick.
My habit is to use a moskito killer (the hot plates that you used to put pellets on) and place the boat over it and then cover all with a big cardboard box,  Its only a few watts but it raises the temperature enough to speed the cure

 - other folk use a 40W incandescent buld carefully placed as a heater
andrew

Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 13, 2011, 07:43:19 pm
Use a hairdryer on it at low setting Ken.

Colin

Hi Colin

I did wonder about this but thought I might have to run it for hours.  On thinking about it I suppose it really needed a kick start, say for half an hour then let the process take over.

cheers

Ken
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 13, 2011, 07:58:27 pm
Not even as long as that, just get it warm - and bring it indoors.

Colin
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on December 13, 2011, 08:07:51 pm


I've done that tonight as I've just done the first paint spray.  (funny how the wife can smell things that don't bother us blokes !!)

ken

Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Umi_Ryuzuki on December 13, 2011, 10:41:54 pm
Tell here the smell reminds you of "permanent" hair setting chemicals...  ok2

Oh, a lightbulb and an enclosure also help to keep a small area warm, but best
not leave it unattended all night. I had one set up that could keep the interior of a
box over 48°C using a 100watt bulb.
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: JB on December 13, 2011, 10:50:48 pm

I've done that tonight as I've just done the first paint spray.  (funny how the wife can smell things that don't bother us blokes !!)

ken



Try it with Humbrol Acrylic spray cans....its a wonder I'm not living in the shed %% %% %%
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Talisman on December 14, 2011, 01:34:10 am
Thank you the info Andrew.

 I went down and read the can and it said it must be 70 degrees F to cure.  Must wait for the summer.

Thank you the info Andrew.


Hey Ho,  thank goodness for Model Boat Mayhem.   :-))


ken



Ken, i think you will find the answer was on the 'can' all along.

Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: gwa84 on December 14, 2011, 01:34:31 am
got in trouble afew weeks ago using poliester resin in the sper room i cant smell the stuff but gave my other half an asma attak orderd some epoxy hope that wont couse the same problem  :}
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Talisman on December 14, 2011, 01:45:27 am
I'm really surprised buy this and some other posts lately.

We live in a world heavily influenced by Stealth & Hafety...... Have risk assesments on almost everything we do .... (blimey, i even heard a Scottish Minister talk about risk assesment in banking practices ... and yet we still , in our wee hobby ... where its us against the chemicals ... don't read instructions .....

Now call me old fashioned ......

Regards
Kim
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: gwa84 on December 14, 2011, 01:48:23 am
i may add a use a triple filter carbon mask with the window open and an extractor fan boged to it lol
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Talisman on December 14, 2011, 01:49:30 am
Now .. If you want to insist on calling me old fashioned ... !

Should the Moderators not move this to the Grp / Epoxy section ....  PMSL!

Regards,
Kim
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Norseman on December 14, 2011, 01:59:46 am
its a wonder I'm not living in the shed %% %% %%

Hey John - no shed sob storys please <:(. I'm sure you would be living in that lovely big car of yours - anyway if fuel gets much dearer then that's all it will be good for.

Dave (Big guy - tiny Punto) %%
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: pompebled on December 14, 2011, 08:44:24 am
got in trouble afew weeks ago using poliester resin in the spare room, i cant smell the stuff but gave my other half an asma attak orderd some epoxy hope that wont couse the same problem  :}
Epoxy doesn't smell, but the fumes are not good for your health either, I use it in a well ventilated room and have a small (computer)fan blow the fumes away from me.
So far, so good. (Working with polyester professionally for a few years has made me allergic to the stuff, with epoxy I don't have any issues yet...).

Regards, Jan.
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: Colin Bishop on December 14, 2011, 09:07:09 am
Funny the way our other halves complain about the smells our hobbies make. Yet we never complain about the smells of baking cakes, coffee brewing, dinner in the oven, fresh flowers etc. Life's not fair is it?

Colin
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: gwa84 on December 14, 2011, 09:20:29 am
yet they can sit ther and stink the living room out with nail varnish and not complain lol {-)
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: stevesteve on April 09, 2017, 05:28:10 pm

I've done that tonight as I've just done the first paint spray.  (funny how the wife can smell things that don't bother us blokes !!)

ken


i know this is  old post but after reading this i thought i would ads some info, the reason why women can smell things that dont bother men is because they have twice as many smell receptors as men!
Title: Re: How do you get 'Not gone off' Epoxy off
Post by: davidm1945 on April 09, 2017, 05:45:22 pm
Yes, they are superior to men in oh so many ways - or so she keeps telling me!   %)

Dave.