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Title: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on December 26, 2011, 04:10:22 PM
Hi Everyone,

I am uploading this info and pictures so far for my Dad Steve, who some may know as computer illiterate  %).  Whilst I have been building the mighty HMS Gnat in 1/32 scale my Dad has been cutting out the frames and keel of his pet project, a WW2 CMB.

The boat in question is very similar to the WW1 55ft CMBs built by Thornycroft but differed in the bow area.  The engines were side by side instead of being staggered and the bow was closer to a hard chine design instead of the round bilge of the original vessels.
CMB No 216 was ordered by the Royal Navy on 7/6/1940 she was completed on 3/1/1941, small, lightly armed but fast (40knots +) however she was not to survive long.  On 23/5/1941 along with her sisters she was destroyed by German aircraft at Suda Bay, Crete.

My Dad is building the model to 1/12th scale making the hull 55inches long oa and a beam of 11inches.  She will be powered by two 12v Bosch car heater motors.  Using plans from John Lambert, he has built all the frames from hardwood strip and used square ramin for the chines and stringers.
 
(http://s7.postimage.org/r3tdgl3pj/PC200006.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/r3tdgl3pj/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/xzscv6a4h/PC200007.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xzscv6a4h/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/m1h6tnhzl/PC200008.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/m1h6tnhzl/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/owmgv5m0j/PC260015.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/owmgv5m0j/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/xy108rjxv/PC260018.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xy108rjxv/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/ixf7hfmjf/PC260019.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ixf7hfmjf/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/6whv4ij77/PC260020.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6whv4ij77/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/hsvrd764d/PC240009.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hsvrd764d/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/ng1b25nel/PC240012.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ng1b25nel/)

Currently my Dad is building the engine mounts before he starts to skin the hull with a layer of 1/32" marine ply and strips of 1/16" marine ply for the planking.
Does any one have any more information or pictures of the WW2 CMBs as we don't have any pictures of a real one? We visited Duxford where there is a WW1 example and a model similar to what we are building but not the correct type so anything would be appreciated.
On behalf of Steve Brown...

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: longshanks on December 26, 2011, 11:17:23 PM
Might be worth trying the Coastal Forces sights

Coastal Forces Heritage Trust    http://www.coastal-forces.org.uk/

British Military Power Boat Trust     www.bmpt.co.uk

Coastal Forces Veterans       http://cfv.org.uk/

Hope this helps
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: DickyD on December 27, 2011, 12:07:26 AM
Get in touch with Christian [cds123] he is our coastal forces expert. Send him a PM.

http://community.webshots.com/user/cdsc123
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Dreadstar on December 27, 2011, 08:18:35 AM
All that I can find out so far is that she was a Thornycroft type 24 MTB. 74ft 3in x 16ft 7in,(Though 213-217 appear to have been around 60ft oa,which were requisitioned from an order destined for the Phillipines)triple shaft, Packard 3600bhp engines.(42 KTS)
 Armament:- 2 x 21"tt;2 x 0.5"mg;2 x 0.303"mg;4-6 DC's or mines.  I'm having terrible trouble finding any pics of the class. {:-{
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: mikearace on December 27, 2011, 11:52:57 AM
Try Chris at HSL

http://www.hslmouldings.co.uk/thornycroft_mtb.htm

He has an immense knowledge of all things coastal forces.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on December 27, 2011, 06:04:48 PM
Hi everyone,

Thanks for the replies so far, I'm showing my Dad all the responses and your suggestions, one day he might learn how to use this new fangled piece of technology called a computer.

I managed to see a copy of the plans he is using (whilst he wasn't looking), CMB 216 had two Thornycroft R12 engines and had two 18inch torpedoes that were dropped off the back of the boat.  They were almost identical to the WW1 CMBs apart from the engines being side by side and a hard chine style bow area.  The superstructure was changed according to the plan to be more aerodynamically pleasing.  The plan also shows two twin lewis machine guns and two depth charges that could be rolled off the side.
That's the problem with my Dad he likes the completely obscure! %%.
Thanks so far.

Nick B

(on behalf of Steve Brown)
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on January 07, 2012, 12:19:46 PM
Hello everyone,

Here are some pictures of the build so far...

(http://s8.postimage.org/xktfxslmp/P1070001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xktfxslmp/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/c3ge865wz/P1070004.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c3ge865wz/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/9e4llalq5/P1070003.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9e4llalq5/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/d2j9nsl8n/P1070018.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/d2j9nsl8n/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/t3up33tln/P1070019.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/t3up33tln/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/i5l9qf0ql/P1070021.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/i5l9qf0ql/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/vtpbsbo9x/P1070022.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vtpbsbo9x/)

Steve has decided to use 1/32" marine ply to sheet the hull and plank it because of the superior flexibility of the thinner ply.
He has built the hull step from 1/16" ply and skinned it with 1/32" to strengthen it because this is what it will be sitting on at speed.
The torpedo (x2) was made three years ago by my Grandfather from aluminium tube with solid nose and tails, and will sit in the trough as seen in the pictures.  They were pushed off the stern by a piston that sat beneath the crew cockpit!

Information we have been told so far is that the WW2 CMBs were used in a clandestine role in the Mediterranean and were unlucky enough to be caught in the Suda Bay attacks made by the Germans and Italians in 1941.
On behalf of Steve Brown

Nick B   
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: CJ on January 11, 2012, 12:34:30 PM
Try this book - If you can find a copy in a library, 'Allied Coastal Forces of WW2, vol 1' by John Lambert

Loads and loads of info that has really helped me loads....If you can't find or need anything specific I can copy for you or nearly finished with so will be on e-bay soon !!

CJ
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on January 11, 2012, 09:03:30 PM
Hi CJ

Thanks for the recommendation and offer, but I already have both vol 1 and 2 in my collection.  Whilst there are references to the CMBs of WW1 and a couple of pictures of them, unfortunately they don't show the WW2 versions.  I have spoken to John Lambert on several occasions about these elusive boats and well as many other obscurities but there are few pictures out there, and that comes from the man who drew up the drawings my dad is using.  Once again thanks.

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: mark w on January 16, 2012, 03:06:07 AM


Keep it coming  :-)).

Mark
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on January 16, 2012, 09:57:17 AM
Hi everyone

As requested some more pictures of the build so far, my dad has actually learnt how to use a digital camera :}.


(http://s13.postimage.org/o41dpkttv/P1150036.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o41dpkttv/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/55l0ae335/P1150037.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/55l0ae335/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/owe5j0aph/P1150038.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/owe5j0aph/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/d79pbo2s7/P1150039.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/d79pbo2s7/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/m8op8nho5/P1150040.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/m8op8nho5/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/vj0tc6sdx/P1150041.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/vj0tc6sdx/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/wv3riwj13/P1150042.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wv3riwj13/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/4vj07jbqt/P1150043.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4vj07jbqt/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/kah47wr9f/P1150044.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kah47wr9f/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/zfdooswev/P1150045.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/zfdooswev/)

As the photo sequence shows he glues the 1/32" ply using 'Howdens' superglue to the main chine first and allows to dry, being held in place with clamps.  Once dry he glues to the next chine or stringer and once again holds in position until dry.  He has managed to do the entire rear section of the model like this.  This will be covered with another layer of 1/32" ply cut into planks and laid diagonally as per the original boat.

My dad would like to know if any one knows what colour semtex rubber would be because the plans state that the forward deck and hatches were covered with it?  I would have thought it would be either dark grey or green but I am not sure, does anyone have any ideas?

Finally for the moment,  I would like to thank 'Danny' for supplying pictures of CMB M103, whilst its an earlier vessel the pictures of the bridge area have given my dad an idea to what the cockpit would look like.

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: deadbeat on January 16, 2012, 03:16:08 PM
White Ensign Models produce a large range of WW2 colours in tinlets and you will probably find what you want there.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on January 22, 2012, 04:02:47 PM
Hi Everyone,

First of all thanks to 'deadbeat' for pointing us in the correct direction, the white ensign paint range says that semtex rubber is a medium-dark green which was trowled on as an anti-slip paint.

My Dad has completed the first skin phase and will start shortly on the planking.  This will be 1/32" marine ply which will be 45 degree diagonal on the bow area changing to a horizontal plank on the stern.  He is waiting for his prop shafts to arrive from Prop Shop he has worked out that the prop shaft length will be in excess of 40inches long :o.
Here are some pics so far...

(http://s7.postimage.org/bn3gawek7/P1220060.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bn3gawek7/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/jrczoykk5/P1220061.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jrczoykk5/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/u6xemh2st/P1220062.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/u6xemh2st/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/g06l72con/P1220063.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/g06l72con/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/69tisr883/P1220065.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/69tisr883/)

(http://s11.postimage.org/qmy200b33/P1220066.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qmy200b33/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/h7j3pl8xd/P1220067.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/h7j3pl8xd/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/k2czli5b7/P1220068.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k2czli5b7/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/6kwqgx3lj/P1220069.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6kwqgx3lj/)

Until next time.

On behalf of Steve Brown

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Tug-Kenny on January 22, 2012, 04:58:00 PM

 He is waiting for his prop shafts to arrive from Prop Shop he has worked out that the prop shaft length will be in excess of 40inches long :o.

Hi RAFLaunches,

This does sound like a lot of metal inside the boat. Are you working to plans ?

regards

Ken
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on January 22, 2012, 05:13:34 PM
Hi Ken

We were quite surprised at the length too, especially that there are two shafts required!

My dad is using the John Lambert plans that we got via Traplet.  Its the only one available of a WW2 CMB without going through the National Maritime Museum plans service which can be quite expensive.

Regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 04, 2012, 04:25:39 PM
Hi everyone,

The prop shafts turned up yesterday after being thrown through the letterbox by the postman!  Obviously he has no respect for the model boater and his prized components but they arrived more or less intact  <*<.

Here are some pictures of the shafts in place and the outer planking.

(http://s14.postimage.org/51oxswzzx/P1300077.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/51oxswzzx/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/6h7yxuwr5/P1300078.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6h7yxuwr5/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/fjwg4vwi9/P1300079.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fjwg4vwi9/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/6zg13uus7/P1300080.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6zg13uus7/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/mql9ya14t/P1300081.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mql9ya14t/)

Looked through the latest issue of Marine Modelling International and spotted a similar boat on the Bury Motor Marine Stand at the Blackpool show, does any one know whose model it is are any way of contacting them, as we are curious about the camo scheme used?

On behalf (once again...) of Steve Brown

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: expat flyer on February 06, 2012, 07:12:23 PM
Here's a link to a close up picture of 213 and brief timelines of the rest.
http://lemairesoft.sytes.net:1944/pages/page.aspx?univid=120060

You have an unusual subject and a scale to do it justice. I hope you will find and share all the details necessary.

Jerry
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: expat flyer on February 06, 2012, 08:35:16 PM
A Pathe News clip with some details - a requisitioned Philippine boat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIc4wn7K-a8

Jerry
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: John W E on February 06, 2012, 08:59:52 PM
aye aye there

if you do a search on the web for Model Shipwright book - I know they did a plan for a 40 foot coastal motor boat - I know it is shorter than the one you are building but I am sure there is write up that goes with the plan and it may help you.   I am sure someone on this forum will have the magazine and the information.  Tell your dad the build looks really good and is he going to double diagonally plank the hull?

john
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 07, 2012, 06:00:11 PM
Hi Everyone

Expat flyer, thank you for the links to the picture and film footage of the CMBs, its the first pictures we have seen of any of the WW2 CMBs, the camouflage scheme seen clearly on the stern area is especially helpful as we had no idea to the original paint scheme would have been.
We aim to due it justice using the picture you have kindly pointed us towards, don't worry we will keep everyone updated of this build.

John (Bluebird), thanks for the advice, I have just found a copy for sale on amazon with the plans you mentioned hopefully it will arrive in the post this week.  Thanks for the comments I'll pass them on to my dad, I'm sure he will appreciate them very much.  He has just started to double diagonal the outer skin on the underside of the bow area and has completed the forward skin on the port side, hopefully pictures to come will show this.

Thank you to you both,

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 12, 2012, 04:07:40 PM
Hi everyone

My Dad has completed the forward underside and the port side external planking.  He discovered that he could not diagonally plank the rear hull sides and underside due to the curvature of the hull.  It created problems with the planks being laid along side each other bending away from each other and a filler plank being fitted inbetween each plank, something he believes that Thornycroft would have prevented.
So he has resorted to the original 55ft CMB from WW1 idea of horizontal planking the aft hull sections and keeping the diagonal planks on the forward sections and blending them in the middle.

I made a promise to my dad that if he made my 6inch guns for my gunboat, I would make his 1/12th scale 0.303" Lewis machine guns for his CMB.  The pictures show the basic parts for the barrel, main body of the gun and the ammo drum.  I have started to add some detail to the main body with cooling gills made from 90degree angle plastic card, whilst the ammo drum is a section of a solder tube.  I will start to carve the butt of the gun next week...

(http://s15.postimage.org/4ldvoar47/P2070092.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4ldvoar47/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/9hhyzd86r/P2070093.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9hhyzd86r/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/j4lh9316b/P2070094.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j4lh9316b/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/5sweu96mf/P2070095.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5sweu96mf/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/xh0q6jf5z/P2070096.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xh0q6jf5z/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/p8c8kh67n/P2070097.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/p8c8kh67n/)

Until next time...

On behalf of Steve Brown

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: John W E on February 12, 2012, 05:43:48 PM
Hi ya Nick

I hope your dad has access to your p.c. so he can have a bit of a read of how to overcome the problems encountered over double diagonally planking of hulls with a radius.  I am posting a link to the trawler build which I did a while ago which is diagonally planked - see below.

Somehow I have the feeling I am 'teaching one's granny how to suck eggs' looking at the skill and craftsmanship that your dad has put into this build.   There is also an alternative way of double diagonally planking - and this is by using a thinner planking which I did in the 63 ft whaleback build.   Inner planks were something like 10mm wide x 1.5mm thick obechi wood - then I planked over the top using 4mm x 5mm mahogany strips which were supplied by Mantura Models and using this method I had no problems with various widths of planking.

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=13888.msg133091#msg13309
john
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 12, 2012, 06:07:40 PM
Hi John

Thanks for the advice, read it with great interest, its fantastic to see how its done properly.  My Dad was going to do a very similar method to your hull construction but decided not to because the entire hull was filled in so no planks are visible, I thinks he is doing this way because its easier too!  Its an interesting subject making the hull from double diagonally laid planks, we have made about three or four boats in this way and it has made a very strong hull.  Our Walton 65ft ASRL has two layers of 1/16"ply (its built like a tank :-))), and was relatively easy to build but all of them have been hard chine designed and the CMB is his first round bilge launch so its been a steep learning curve for him.
Cheers for the help, hope its still interesting for everyone...
Regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 19, 2012, 03:36:25 PM
Hi everyone

A quick update so far...

My dad has near enough completed the outer planking of the hull, seems a shame that all of it will be hidden because the planks gaps were filled and sanded/filed smooth to create a 'aerodynamic' hull.  The prop shafts are fully glued in and he has informed me that he will start making the prop support brackets soon (all four of them!).
He intends to paint the hull soon with a primer coat to act as the filler between the plank and sanding smooth between coats, building up the coats and impregnating the wood.
I received the  copy of Model Shipwright last week that Bluebird suggested, the article is very interesting but some thieving g*t has nicked the plans but I got the general idea!
Hopefully more pictures to come next week.

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 04, 2012, 03:22:34 PM
Hi Everyone,

Apologies for this update being longer than expected, but we spent the last weekend removing about 60-100 tons of mud from our local lake at Wicksteed Park!

My Dad has finished the sides and the underside of the hull, and is now slowly finishing the deck areas with 1/32" ply and a 1/16" piece of ply for the bow area (to make it stronger).

(http://s16.postimage.org/gm736z40x/P2280019.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/gm736z40x/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/mhv1uif43/P2280020.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mhv1uif43/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/wbw0cepl9/P2280021.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/wbw0cepl9/)

(http://s10.postimage.org/o1if5sljp/P2280022.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o1if5sljp/)

He says that he will start painting the hull will a primer coat next week, but first he will make the strengthening plate and exhaust outlets that run along the hull sides.

More pictures to come next week, hopefully!

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: bikerdude666 on March 04, 2012, 04:18:48 PM
Just wanted to say, I've seen this model (he brought it to a club meet so I could see it), it's incredibly light, and the pictures certainly don't do it justice.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Chuffy on March 06, 2012, 05:51:04 PM
Wait till you see the motors 666, be very afraid.

Paul.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: bikerdude666 on March 06, 2012, 07:25:45 PM
After a chat about his other models last night, I'm not sure I'll be putting anything of mine on the lake at the same time as anything of his!!!

Look forward to seeing the finished model though, really like the hull lines.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 08, 2012, 09:09:42 PM
Wait till you see the motors 666, be very afraid.

Paul.

Woo ha ha ha!  :}

Our newly discovered stock pile of hardly used 12v car heater motors are now being used in this model and if you think that will be fast you should see what the next planned model will be, it will make 40knots look like James May driving around the top gear track!

The only clue I will give you is the first boat to breach the ton barrier on salt water and will use a very special gearbox!

Regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 27, 2012, 08:58:29 PM
Hi everyone

Hopefully I can upload some pictures soon once our broadband has been reconnected, for the moment I am having to use my iPad which does not like putting pictures on the mayhem forum.

Anyway, my Dad has fully skinned in the deck area and filed up the hull to shape. He has started to add the spray rail and strengthening plates along the hull.  Additionally he has built in the bollards into the hull so they can actually be used for their task.
He aims to bring the hull to the mayhem in June for everyone to see.
Regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Perkasaman2 on March 29, 2012, 12:04:21 AM
Hi, This link may be useful and could be newsreel footage of your coastal mtb.  :-)


 www.britishpathe.com/video/launch-of-latest-motor-torpedo-boat-at-hampton-on
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on April 06, 2012, 04:02:59 PM
Hi Everyone

First of all thank you to perkasman for the new reel footage of a CMB being launched on the Thames.  The vessel is similar in shape and style but was built for the Philippian navy in 1939.  Has some excellent imagery of some of the common fittings that were fitted to both vessels.

Secondly after a lot of swearing at the computer  >:-o I have managed to upload some pictures for everyone to enjoy.
My Dad has completed the deck area and has moved on to the engine hatch which is the main way in to the model hull for battery changes, etc...  as can be seen in the pictures it fits beautifully and surprised me how it finishes the hull off!
Both strengthening strips have been glued to the hull sides and all the spray/kick rails have attached to the hull too.  These were made from soft wood strip and using a diamond miniature file he has filed out the water drain holes.
The forward hatch will be used for the r/c and motor switches so it should be well away from any water spray!
The superstructure has been started (sorry no pics yet) but will now be glued permanently to the hull since everything can be reached through the engine hatch.
 
(http://s13.postimage.org/lzlubtkvn/P4010049.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lzlubtkvn/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/hv3f3365n/P4010050.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hv3f3365n/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/e4fwar0mr/P4010051.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e4fwar0mr/)

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(http://s15.postimage.org/j3y8eupif/P4010054.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j3y8eupif/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/8llo5shl1/P4010055.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8llo5shl1/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/49hv1wf6l/P4010056.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/49hv1wf6l/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/7rq8at67b/P4010057.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7rq8at67b/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/7j7673ue3/P4010058.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7j7673ue3/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/j7a4vjdad/P4010059.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j7a4vjdad/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/6x0f9wtbb/P4010060.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6x0f9wtbb/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/8dnf850il/P4010061.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8dnf850il/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/mk290m5t7/P4010062.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mk290m5t7/)

(http://s8.postimage.org/isrmdd0jl/P4010063.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/isrmdd0jl/)

Regards

Nick B

(still, on the behalf of Steve Brown!)
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: mark w on April 07, 2012, 03:40:47 AM


Looking great  :-))

Mark
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on April 08, 2012, 04:00:42 PM
Thanks Mark  :-))

My dad has worked hard to build this model since hardly any info or pictures exist and I am absolutely amazed at the results so far.
He is currently building the rudders, rudder posts and linkage gear from brass sheet and rod, so I am expecting a few swear words soon when he burns himself (again) picking up the hot brass after soldering it :-X

I'll upload the pictures soon of the rudders once he has finished them.

Regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on April 15, 2012, 04:21:02 PM
Hi Everyone

After weeks of promising that he would start on the rudders I have uploaded these pictures of, in my opinion, the best rudders I have seen on a model boat.  Last Saturday he decided like me to bite the bullet and start on the most difficult part of the boat and cut out the rudder shapes using 1.5mm brass sheet. Using his ancient airframe rigger skills from the 1960s he created the rudders, their brackets, the pivots, and the propshaft support tubes.  After soldering the brass together he did his usual tradition of trying to pick up the brass and burning his fingers :} again!

(http://s17.postimage.org/frnzlxcjv/P4100091.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/frnzlxcjv/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/c6y1f0zpx/P4100092.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/c6y1f0zpx/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/4vjqo23bl/P4100093.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4vjqo23bl/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/lifyhpbir/P4100094.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lifyhpbir/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/yce0b1oyb/P4100095.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yce0b1oyb/)

(http://s11.postimage.org/hozn8e0vj/P4100097.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hozn8e0vj/)

He has screwed them to the transom in preparation for the props, due to be removed from our Thornycroft 62ft Fast Motor Boat to then to be fitted to the CMB in the near future.  We will have to spend some money now on some new props for the FMB! <:(
Best regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: mark w on April 17, 2012, 05:34:10 AM

Beautiful work  :-)).

Mark
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on April 18, 2012, 08:56:05 PM
Thanks Mark W

Hopefully the rudders will be strong enough for anything the water can throw at them!
I am really looking forward to seeing it on the water. :-))
Best regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: colin-stevens on May 02, 2012, 04:57:28 PM
Lovely piece of kit there. looking forward to the next update.

Colin
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on May 05, 2012, 10:20:40 AM
Hi everyone

After all the suffering, head rubbing and nightmares, my dad has built the steering gear to allow the rudders to work properly. The original boat had a wheel to move the push rod in an arc but my dad decided against that as it could be too impractical especially to keep the water out (the waterline is just below the steering arm position!)
He has constructed from 1.5mm brass sheet a sealed box to prevent water ingress, then drilled and inserted a brass 4mm rod which is soldered to the steering arm. Inside the hull the rod passes through the upper part of the box and is free to rotate, to this he modified a meccano collet to act as the adjustable steering arm to the servo. He will make a plate to fit over the box to seal it in to the transom. At the Coalville show a few weeks back he bought some servo steering arms and rods which actually fit the brass steering arm and the rudder brackets, however can you spot the obvious mistake on the right rudder? It took him a little while to solder the bracket on then realised that it should be on the other side! :embarrassed:
Thanks to Colin Stevens, hope this whets your appetite.


(http://s14.postimage.org/sqsi9ogzh/P4300098.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/sqsi9ogzh/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/l7bbjuu07/P4300099.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l7bbjuu07/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/4j04018jb/P4300100.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4j04018jb/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/iocrgnroz/P4300101.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/iocrgnroz/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/3q9k1483h/P4300103.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3q9k1483h/)

More picture to come soon.
Regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: colin-stevens on May 05, 2012, 11:12:24 AM
Watching with interest as I am planning/hoping to do the Russian G5 which is very similiar. Are working torpedoes planned? And if so do you know how they were launched? I know that they are pushed of the back, but did they sit on some kind of "pram" to help them go?

Colin
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: colin-stevens on May 05, 2012, 11:16:28 AM
just found this link, http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=60260
hope its of use

colin
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on May 05, 2012, 02:20:48 PM
Hi Colin

Thank you for the link, it is very helpful in the detailing of the hull fittings and rudders etc.
The torpedoes are solid and will act as ballast on this model, there are some manufacturers who do make some working torpedoes but they can be quite expensive.
The torpedoes were launched by a cordite charge being ignited which in turn pushed a ram against the torpedo head which pushed it overboard. From the plan by John Lambert it appears that the torpedoes sat in a square trough but there were no runners or pram to assist the torpedo launch.
Hope this helps.

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: colin-stevens on May 05, 2012, 05:07:38 PM
Sounds like a risky business!!! stuff that.

I saw  a model in a smaller scale ages ago that did actuals launch the torpedoes of the back. It was impressive but never did find out the mechanics of the system or the torpedoes.
Colin
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on May 20, 2012, 04:21:15 PM
Hi everyone

My dad has completed the prop shaft supports both intermediates and rudder supports. We have removed the props off the Thornycroft 62ft FMB and temp fitted them to the CMB shafts, he discovered that the threaded section on the shafts needs extending by 1/2inch to ensure that the shafts sit in the rear/rudder support bracket. Today he has completed the display stand so expect to see the model on display at the Mayhem weekend at wicksteed park.

(http://s18.postimage.org/9tgnix9d1/P5150114.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9tgnix9d1/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/nbwqmk2rn/P5150115.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nbwqmk2rn/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/5fd847545/P5150116.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5fd847545/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/u5fvxo1vb/P5150117.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/u5fvxo1vb/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/v6r773g31/P5150118.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/v6r773g31/)

Colin-stevens, I also this model at the Doncaster show last year, but I think if memory serves that the torpedoes were launched off the stern and dragged along by nylon cord behind the model, the owner saying that he did not stop suddenly or the cord would wrap around the props!
Regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on June 22, 2012, 08:10:19 PM
Hi everyone

It has been a little while since I have updated for my dad, what he has done in the last month is filed the hull and sanded smooth followed by its first layer of grey paint. All the sky lights have been filed out using a reamer and all the rudder/prop shaft supports are painted black.
He has managed to get the rudder linkage to work, just, and he has at last built a stand for it. More pictures to come showing the rudders, etc...

(http://s18.postimage.org/k3qk8ot79/P6170096.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k3qk8ot79/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/shdnw1qx3/P6170097.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/shdnw1qx3/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/hiu6cnil1/P6170098.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hiu6cnil1/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/pbt3tbnf5/P6170099.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pbt3tbnf5/)

(http://s7.postimage.org/e3evi1uh3/P6170112.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e3evi1uh3/)

Regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on June 23, 2012, 05:08:50 PM
Hi everyone

Some more pictures so far...

(http://s17.postimage.org/e5s9s3r2z/P6230159.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e5s9s3r2z/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/4949pa8x9/P6230160.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4949pa8x9/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/pb9t7btdh/P6230162.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pb9t7btdh/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/lzfn8pup9/P6230163.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lzfn8pup9/)

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on July 01, 2012, 04:15:29 PM
Hi everyone

The paint is on and the waterline was marked on Friday and on Saturday the wiring up of the speed controllers (x2 Electronize FR30) and the receiver was completed quickly. It was during the last few hours last night that the torpedo trough was built and trial fitted.  With all electronics fitted we decided it was time the servo was connected up to the rudder linkage, with finger nails disappearing quickly I operated the tx stick left and right and to our amazement it didn't fall apart or snap into a thousand little pieces! So we ventured even further into the unknown and connected up the main battery (SLA 12V 7amp/hr) and turned it on, no bangs or smoke so we knew everything was the right way round  :-)).
With all pre start up checks carried out my dad watched as I pushed the throttles open for the first time...
perfection, no problems as such just a bit of lubricating oil on the bearings and the props spun without any problems.
So the big day arrived and the car was packed with the boat, radio gear and the back up tool kit- just incase ok2
The torpedoes were tied on place in the newly built trough and we switched on at 1030hrs at Wicksteed Park with dread and doubt (well I did!) as I powered up hoping to the model boat god that she would plane on her step. Conducting the rudder checks the boat responded well to rudder movements, I was happier knowing at least it could turn, I applied more power and turned her around for the first power run along the 90m long boat lake. Watching and hoping the CMB picked up speed very fast and a strange wake pattern emerged for the first quarter of the run and then suddenly it sounded like the props were cavitating!?! before the bow rose out of the water and she climbed up on the step!
Running her back and forwards along the lake we discovered that she did not respond very well at speed to rudder movements to port and Dad remembered that the props rotated in the same direction so a bit of trim was added and off she went for an hour.
Needless to say Dad is ecstatic that the hull works and has decided that he will try building a spare set of rudders that are thicker and bigger to ensure that she turns at speed. All that is left is to finish the model... come on dad its not that difficult to build superstructures!

(http://s7.postimage.org/yz4br9kd3/P6300172.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/yz4br9kd3/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/tqeek4mmp/P6300173.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tqeek4mmp/)

(http://s16.postimage.org/jumyvcck1/P6300174.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jumyvcck1/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/j50qhhvid/P6300178.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/j50qhhvid/)

(http://s15.postimage.org/dc4a062c7/P6300180.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/dc4a062c7/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/ig5dl7uth/P7010181.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ig5dl7uth/)

(http://s18.postimage.org/pee34wibp/P7010196.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pee34wibp/)

(http://s9.postimage.org/l0bkn5uqz/P7010201.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l0bkn5uqz/)

(http://s14.postimage.org/4jukham9p/P7010197.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4jukham9p/)

Regards

Nick B
(also on the behalf of a very happy Steve Brown!)
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: colin-stevens on July 01, 2012, 06:21:51 PM
Looking good. Can you get a handed prop, then the motors can turn in opposite directions (Swap + & - ) , that will help non end with turning the boat.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: John W E on July 01, 2012, 06:50:45 PM
hi ya thereNick

your Dad cant half build a cracking model - it looks swell on the water!   Just a thought, has your dad thought of fitting a mixer - such as the ACTion P40 between the Rx and speed controllers?      This, he would find, would do wonders for the turning of the model.   It would also enable one to work both motors off one throttle stick.    I have the RTTL set up similarly where both props rotate in the same direction - and what your dad will find for you or whoever is operating the model - the boat will always kick out to one side usually the opposite way to the props turning & its exaggerated even more when you turn the model into the same direction as the props are turning.   The model normally comes off the plain quick and you tend to get the bow diving into the water.

Boat looks really nice.

aye john
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: longshanks on July 01, 2012, 11:29:25 PM
Looking great both on and off the water  :-))

Its probably the camera angle but it looks like the servo arm and tiller are not parallel. If this is the case could this be affecting the rudder movement.

Could you not turn the servo around and provide a straight push/pull?

Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: mark w on July 02, 2012, 08:15:24 PM


Love it  :-)). Please get your dad to finish it.

Mark
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on July 02, 2012, 09:23:04 PM
Hi everyone

I have passed all the comments on to my Dad and he is still very ecstatic with the boat and the positive comments.
To answer the ideas so far:

My Dad is currently looking through and in contact with Prop Shop to ask/beg if he can get an opposite handed prop or a set that are close to the current one but running opposite to each other.

We have not considered a Mixer Unit because we use a Robbe F14 Navy twin stick transmitter so we have separate control over each motor on every model we have ever built has used this system but is is worth considering a mixer unit in the near future.

The tiller arm is not parallel to the steering arm because we found, very strangely, that if it was straight the rudders lock over and will not move. Dad made the tiller arm adjustable so he could make fine adjustments until the rudders operate smoothly in both directions. We think this has happened because the original vessel had its pivot point further back and was controlled by a wheel whilst we have had to be practical to make the boat work and to stop water pouring through the steering slot on the transom, the pictures in this area are very vague!

Don't worry he has promised to finish it and will hopefully be displayed at the International Model Boat show at Warwick this year.

Regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on July 22, 2012, 04:17:49 PM
Hi everyone

This will be the last uploading of pictures for 4 months due to my detachment to the Falklands, but Dad has promised me that he will take plenty of photos for us so when I return I can upload them.
Since the the first maiden run a few weeks back, my Dad is still searching for the ideal props but he has started on the superstructure and steering position. The plan he is using are a bit vague and he has to make certain things fit and be practicable rather than 100% accurate.
He has made the torpedo troughs fit and added two aluminium sheets to the sides to give the extensions a bit more strength. The cockpit is made form 1/32" ply and the supporting structure is made from thin lengths of wood as there are no pictures of the structure internally he has guessed where some of these supports would go, abiding by the common sense law that if looked like should be there it probably should be!

(http://s16.postimage.org/6jya9r04h/P6260148.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6jya9r04h/)

(http://s13.postimage.org/3qx7wwnc3/P6260149.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3qx7wwnc3/)

(http://s17.postimage.org/o0lckicaj/P6260150.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o0lckicaj/)

See you all in 4 months, I can still answer any queries from the cold waste lands of the Falklands I just won't be able to upload pictures of the build so please be patient for the next instalment... :-))

Best regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on August 08, 2012, 05:59:05 PM
Hi everyone

As promised I would keep everybody up to speed with my Dad's little project!
Whiltst the pictures I saw on Facetime were a little grainy he has built the basic structure for the cockpit and is starting to detail the instrument panel and floor area.
He has informed me that he intends to finish the cockpit area upto the point of adding the boats wheel, partially because he has not got one yet (my fault I couldn't find one in time! %)) but since this is his first superstructure that he has done instead of me I think he has done a fantastic job. He has told me that he will display the model in its current build state at the Deans Marine open days in September primarily on the Friday and Saturday before taking it to the Warwick show on November. 
As for me my time in isolation in Falklands enters the third week, could be worse it could be snowing (p.s its snowing! ok2)
Best regards

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on August 14, 2012, 04:48:10 PM
Hi everyone

Continuing running commentary, my Dad has painted the cockpit and what little bit of superstructure there is. At the same time he has painted the torpedo troughs too so everything has had a sealing coat to waterproof it.
He has started on the lifting points which attach to the torpedo troughs, he made them from 1mm brass and has had to make four identical units before attaching them into place.
More to come soon!

Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on October 20, 2012, 01:11:34 PM
Hi everyone

Been a little while but I thought I would give an update so far...
The superstructure is almost complete and painted with the traditional grey paint, Dad has made the mast which is made from brass tube and is fixed permanently to the deck.
All the hatches have been constructed and detailed with hinges and locks with all the hand rails firmly glued in. The brass bow piece has also been made from some very thin brass sheet and also glued into place. The torpedo tubes/troughs have been detailed with ribs and stringers and is now almost water-tight! %)
He has started to make the depth charges and their brackets from copper brake pipe which is flattened after the correct shape has been achieved. He bought the copper from the Model Engineer's Show at Warwick on Friday. The model will be on display at the International Model Boat Show at Warwick in three weeks time so if would like to see it come and pester my Dad and I am sure he will enlighten you on how he has struggled with the hull!
Its also his favourite model to run on the lake at the moment...
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on December 17, 2012, 03:00:18 PM
At last I have managed to nick my Dad's camera so I can upload these pictures for everyone. :-))


Pictures of the cockpit/bridge.


(http://i47.tinypic.com/346t54p.jpg)


(http://i45.tinypic.com/moq3m.jpg)


(http://i45.tinypic.com/35mnu3l.jpg)


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(http://i50.tinypic.com/sphcgn.jpg)


(http://i47.tinypic.com/24zvl83.jpg)


The torpedo clamps being assembled and test fitted with the torpedo. Note that the cockpit has been painted.


(http://i45.tinypic.com/ej6k2r.jpg)


(http://i50.tinypic.com/spdxki.jpg)


The cowl vents being fitted.


(http://i46.tinypic.com/2wekjye.jpg)


The brass bow reinforcing piece.


(http://i45.tinypic.com/11jsuns.jpg)


More pictures to come...
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on December 17, 2012, 03:46:08 PM
Some more pictures as promised...


Detailing of the hatches and engine room cover.


(http://i47.tinypic.com/103vlgj.jpg)


(http://i48.tinypic.com/2w7jxib.jpg)


(http://i47.tinypic.com/2vamsnq.jpg)


On the water with its superstructure for the first time, note the brass bipod mast.


(http://i46.tinypic.com/51xcw.jpg)


(http://i50.tinypic.com/21bojg1.jpg)


Detailing the torpedo troughs with 1/32" ply.


(http://i46.tinypic.com/2vbohhd.jpg)


(http://i50.tinypic.com/2h4x5l2.jpg)


The depth charge support bracket. The washer next to it is a 'refuelling' cap.


(http://i48.tinypic.com/x6bu1.jpg)


(http://i47.tinypic.com/2mdj5hd.jpg)


General detail of the model. The crewman is borrowed from one of our RAF Marine Craft vessels, he is a David Tennent Doctor Who figurine suitably modified to become a RAF corporal!


(http://i46.tinypic.com/35iu4gz.jpg)


(http://i47.tinypic.com/bfie8g.jpg)


On display with the Wicksteed Park MBC stand at Warwick.


(http://i45.tinypic.com/351txfs.jpg)



Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on December 18, 2012, 09:18:17 AM
A couple more pictures from Warwick.


(http://i45.tinypic.com/2s6tr84.jpg)


(http://i45.tinypic.com/33vjcw1.jpg)


Dad has just completed making the smoke generator which sits on the small platform above the torpedoes. He has also completed the second depth charge bracket after burning his fingers on more than one occasion! :D
The steps and their brackets have been added to the superstructure, with all this detail work it has busied up the rear section of the CMB. And finally he has added the cover plate (max travel plate) over the rudder arm to seal it up and ensure that the rudders can not over travel.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Stormbringer on December 26, 2012, 09:25:30 PM
looking really good  :-))
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: derekwarner on December 26, 2012, 10:16:09 PM
Excellent build work raflaunches..... :-))
 
In the image below we see the centralised rudder linkage is just above the [water level] boot topping line, although in an earlier image from 18th December "On the water with its superstructure for the first time, note the brass bipod mast"........we see the vessel stern in the water & apparently the linkage slot is below the water line
 
How do you keep the water out? ......Derek
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on December 27, 2012, 05:20:28 PM
Thanks for the positive comments, my Dad is doing a fantastic job at the moment soldering the torpedo trough side bracket to a bolt to make it removeable!


Hi Derek


To answer your question I have drawn a diagram to explain how it works and keeps the water out.


(http://i50.tinypic.com/1zwz8i.jpg)


The black lines indicate solid brass,
the yellow area is a solid brass rod,
the red line is the seal,
any blue area is solder,
the pinky purple areas are the rudder arms,
and the green dotted line is the slot out of the stern so imagine that the picture is looking forward toward the bows.


My Dad drilled a 4mm hole into the upper and lower brass plate and soldered a brass tube with a internal diameter of 4mm on to the lower plate. The brass tube was sealed with a thin piece of brass which was soldered and filed.
The lower rudder arm was soldered to the 4mm brass rod. Two short lengths of brass box were soldered to the lower brass plate. The upper rudder arm was soldered to a collet to allow for any adjustment when connecting up to the servo. The upper brass plate is clamped on to the brass box section with a silicon seal and held in place with four self tapping screws. The upper rudder arm with the collet is then attached to the the protruding 4mm rod which allows the movement of the lower rudder arm. The entire moving parts are sealed within ' a brass box'. The brass box is pushed into the stern bulkhead and sealed with superglue and more silicon. So no water can leak into the hull because the entire contraption is sealed.
Hope this helps.


Regards


Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on January 05, 2013, 06:35:55 PM
Well my Dad has certainly got a move on, I thinks its because of a new project in the near future!
The bipod mast has been fitted out with rope attachment points, mast light, and flag pulleys.
The cockpit is fitted with a steering wheel that is able to rotate (still don't know why he did that! %) ) and the two torpedo push rod tubes have been slid into place on the cockpit floor. The rudder brackets have been attached permanently with flush (or countersunk if you like) bolts. A stern light has been made from a solid aluminium rod filed to shape and a brass rod drilled and glued into the base to pin it to the hull.
My Dad has also rebuilt the torpedo fins to represent the WW2 18 inch versions and ensured that they still fit in the torpedo troughs. The torpedo trough extensions have had their support brackets and rods built from brass 1.5mm rod and 0.5mm sheet with some 0.75mm bolts and nuts.
Some of you may have spotted that a strange cylinder has appeared on the stern sitting over the torpedo troughs. This is the smoke generator constructed from a piece of down pipe with the ends sealed with plastic card and a exhaust constructed from a mushroom vent fitting. At the moment he is building the oiling/lubricating reservoir and tube for the rudder hinge points that the original boats had fitted to the transom.


(http://i46.tinypic.com/rirvoy.jpg)


(http://i46.tinypic.com/wb8853.jpg)


(http://i49.tinypic.com/vfjgoo.jpg)


(http://i46.tinypic.com/4q25bt.jpg)


(http://i47.tinypic.com/fei17d.jpg)


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Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on January 13, 2013, 06:00:00 PM
Dad has been busy again this weekend by finishing off his rudder hinge lubricating reservoirs and fitting them to the transom above the rudder bracket with a piece of 0.5mm brass rod suitably bent to fit to the bracket. He has also made the blocks for the boat handling 'sticks' with hooks on the fore deck. .
Pictures to come next weekend...
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Jonty on February 05, 2013, 03:42:47 PM
  Much impressed by your model - one of my favourite subjects. I was re-reading Barnaby's history of Thornycroft, and came across some interesting info about the earlier 55-footers. May or may not apply to your later boat, but interesting enough to share.

  The early twin engined boats were fitted with two different models of Thornycoft engines, the V/12 and Y/12, or Green or Sunbeam airship engines. Starting for the Y/12 was by a little auxiliary Thornycroft petrol engine, and for all the others by compressed air. Only one engine was fitted with a starter, the other had to be, effectively, bump started by the propellor once the boat was under way. To save weight there was no gearbox, just a cone clutch on each shaft. This was a crude device, and a heavy hammer was needed to assist in declutching!

  I guess a modeller would have fun programming authentic engine sound effects - and remembering not to go astern!
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 05, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
Hi Jonty


We are very glad that you like the model so far, we didn't know that about the engines but we did find out that they were very flammable often catching fire on start up and there was no reverse. Your info has explained a lot about the engine layout and the lack of the reverse gear.
Dad is sanding up the hull for its final paint of Admiralty grey before the other camouflage colours are added. The pictures which I promised a few weekends ago are coming this weekend, so hopefully a different looking CMB will appear next weekend.


Nick B


On behalf of Steve Brown
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 08, 2013, 06:18:30 PM
Hi everyone


As mentioned earlier this week I am uploading the latest batch of photos for my Dad, the model has been sanded up ready for the final coat of light grey before the camouflage paint work is added. This should turn the monotone grey boat into something special! :-))  Last weekend he made the receiver tray and rx battery tray and clipped all the wires to the bulkheads making a neat and tidy interior.


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Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: derekwarner on February 08, 2013, 08:35:37 PM
Hi Nick....your Dad is making good progress  :-))
Just a sideline question.....with the real vessels...when they unloaded the two torpedoes....would their stern draft not be effected with possible prop cavitation?....... Derek
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 09, 2013, 08:42:45 AM
Hi Derek


That's a very good question!
On the initial running trials last year before my deployment to the cold south Atlantic we tried various layouts of batteries and with and without the torpedoes. The result without the torpedoes being fitted meant that the CMB could not get up on the step as the stern had raised up.
We think that the real boats had similar problems too but was counteracted by the fuel tanks. From the drawings we can see 6 fuel tanks all situated behind the step to counter balance the weight of the engines which are forward of the step. We think that to keep the weight behind the step to maintain the balance to a certain degree they would have used the fuel in the forward fuel tanks located closest to the step so when they released the torpedoes the weight shift was not huge.
If we run the model without the torpedoes we have to move the battery further back to get the model to raise up onto the step and prevent any possible prop cavitation.
Hope this is of some help, thanks for question, keep them coming, the model will be at the Mayhem at Wicksteed this year so Martin should be able to see it complete!


Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Perkasaman2 on February 12, 2013, 11:10:58 PM
A really beautiful model of exceptional craftsmanship. Tonight I came across another Pathe newsreel clip shot on the River Thames in 1939 and the boat appears to have twin rear cradles:


http://www.britishpathe.com/video/m-t-b-on-thames-1939/query/air+sea+rescue (http://www.britishpathe.com/video/m-t-b-on-thames-1939/query/air+sea+rescue)
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 18, 2013, 07:49:34 PM
Hi Perkasaman


Thanks for the link, they are earlier boats but are very similar in layout especially the cockpit.
My Dad is looking forward to completing the paint work ASAP, he will have plenty of time as he is having his left hand operated on this week to straighten it out, good thing he's right handed!
So watch this space.


Regards


Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Perkasaman2 on February 19, 2013, 05:51:47 PM
Hi Nick, best wishes to your dad for a speedy recovery and return to modelling.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 19, 2013, 06:10:03 PM
Thanks Perkasaman
Dad has lots of plans for the 4-6 weeks he has to have off to allow his hand to heal, so the CMB will be finished soon and a new project is planned! Ironically another stepped hull! %%
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 24, 2013, 03:45:24 PM

Hi everyone


Dad has managed to paint the next layer of camouflage on to the hull sides and deck using my ever dwindling supply of Tamiya masking tape. Even though he has only one working hand at the moment he has managed to achieve a decent finish. P.S he got me to stick the tape to the hull, he's not that brilliant with one hand! %)
He has also painted the anti-slip area in front of the cockpit. The next layer will be the black/very, very dark grey which will painted on the stern area and a small triangular area by the bow.

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Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 26, 2013, 09:26:17 PM
Hi everyone


Dad has been very busy in between annoying my mum whilst shopping in Tescos! He has finished the final layer of camouflage which is a very very dark grey painted in two panels either side of the hull.
With his club like hand I have been reliably informed that he has done a good job, and that comes from my Mum! Pictures will come on Friday afternoon when I get back home.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Martin [Admin] on February 27, 2013, 09:03:15 PM
 
1. Looking real good Nick?
2. She looks like she needs a nice delicate lace canopy, are you going to make one?    :kiss:
3. How's dad's hand?

 Martin  :-)
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on February 27, 2013, 09:34:07 PM
Hi Martin


Glad that you like the look of her, mum sent me a picture of the finished paint work and it looks brilliant!
Don't think my mum would appreciate making a lace canopy for the boat! {-) {-)
His hand is improving and hopefully the bandage will be cut down this Friday so he can use his hand easier than just using it as a club.
Steve wants to take it for another test run with the new paint this Sunday at Wicksteed Park to see how effective the camouflage was, we think it was there just to break up the outline as the wake pattern of the boat at full speed can be seen for miles!  %%
See you soon
Nick
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 03, 2013, 04:22:12 PM

Hi everyone


Been a bit miffed with Tinypic.com not uploading my pictures properly, this is my fifth attempt!
Anyway the boat went for another test run and ran extremely well since I had not been at the helm of her since last July!
The torpedoes have been attached to the troughs with self tapping screws and the paint job is completed with just a few touch ups needed here and there. The model rises up on the step after the spluttering and gurgling stops, suddenly it leaps up and the bows rise majestically and plough through the open air being very careful not to flood anyone's boat also on the water! The wake is immense that it makes the camo scheme rather pointless because you can see it for scale miles!


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Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: gra2 on March 04, 2013, 11:12:02 AM
G/day Nick,
Your dad has a great looking boat.
Gra2
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 04, 2013, 06:20:17 PM
Thanks Gra2
Final touches will start to happen in the next few weeks primarily detailing the cockpit.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 10, 2013, 12:20:27 PM
Hi everyone


After last weekend's fun and entertainment at Wicksteed Park lake with the CMB test run number 4, my friend and fellow modeller, Paul Millers, sent me some of the pictures he took of the test. He had the advantage of having a camera that takes mutiple pictures at a click of the shutter so the pictures look like movie stills.
The wake pattern is more clear in the pictures he took, so I thank him for providing these pictures, we were going to sail again this weekend but due to the horrible weather (again!!) and my car making even more horrible noises (rear brakes are starting to bind, thought the wheel bearing was going!!!  >>:-( )
Anyway, this week Dad, AKA Steve, has made his depth charges from a piece of down pipe covered in plastic-card and other bits and pieces, including the torpedoes being painted and the boat numbers have been stuck on. She is now numbered CMB 216. We changed the number from 213 because several other modellers have portrayed this vessel so we like to be different.  :-))
If anyone would like to see it, the model will be displayed at Model Ex which is held at Windmill Avenue Primary School in Raunds, Northamptonshire, on April 6 and 7. Its a local event but there are at least 5 model boat clubs attending from the Northamptonshire area and a mix of railway, meccano and many other model types to be seen, all in the name of charity to help the school out. Last time the organiser, Bob Humpage, thanked everyone for helping to raise over 1500 for repairs for the school roof.


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Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 17, 2013, 02:48:44 PM
Hi everybody


Its time for the weekly update on Dad's build which is progressing very well on an almost daily occurance!
This week he has finished building and detailing the two depth charges, they have been detailed with plastic card tube and card and using one of John Lambert's books for reference. He used thin wire and picture frame fittings to hold the depth charge in place.
He has started to detail the smoke generator by creating the brackets from some spares we found and bolted these on to the generator mounting plate. We bought some small brass turnbuckles from Modelling Timbers several years ago and have at last found some use for them. These will tension the wires holding the generator in place.
We found some pictures on the internet of the cockpit or of a similar CMB version and he intends to finalise the cockpit fittings this week. He has pictures of the instrument panel from an earlier CMB which looks very similar but will need to be modified to suit.
He is still looking for a suitable item to modify to become the torpedo caps which are attached to the push rods which launch the torpedoes.
I am looking for a 1/12 scale White Ensign to hang from the flag pole, I'll probably find one at the Coalville Show.
When he is finished he intends to paint the stand too but first he has decided to fit some new brass bushes for the rear-most prop shaft/rudder bracket because of the noise caused by the loose bushes. He has found some new better fitting versions and will fit them next weekend.


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The boat horn on the bridge superstructure from Modelling Timbers.


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The torpedoes- with the torpedoes standing like this we have joked that they look like V2 rockets!  %% {-)


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The new pennant number stuck on the hull.


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That's it for this week, tune for next Sunday for the continuing final build of the CMB!
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 24, 2013, 03:22:29 PM
Hi everybody


This week Dad has actually started on the cockpit detailing, but first he completed the smoke generator wire support brackets and attachment points.
Using 0.2mm wire from Modelling Timbers he wrapped it around a brass rod 0.5mm in diameter and hooked it around the attachment point on one side. Pulling the wire tight over the generator he made a similar brass hook for the other side and wrapped the wire around it. To keep the wire in place he made two brass retainer clips which hook under both wire straps and positively locates the wires onto the generator.
In the cockpit he has made the throttle levers from soft wood, 1/32" plywood and copper tube which was flattened with a hammer. These side on the cockpit sides. He has also started the two instrument panels which are being constructed from 1/32" plywood with plastic tube of various diameters to represent the warning lights and instrument bevels. However, he is not entirely happy with the main instrument panel and may start again making it from plastic card instead.


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Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Perkasaman2 on March 24, 2013, 08:29:55 PM
Hi NickB, the build is looking great. Can you tell me what pair of motors/ batteries/ esc's were fitted? The performance looked excellent from the pics posted.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 24, 2013, 11:10:30 PM
Hi Perkasaman


Thanks, he's doing very well so far. The motors are 12v Bosch car heater motors from a VW Polo which cost a fiver each. Each motor has its own speed controller which are Electronize FR30X (30amp) versions.
A single 12v 7amp sealed lead acid battery is used to power the whole model, it lasts about 35-45mins with a few fast runs up and down the lake.
The battery had to sit nearly on top of the step to balance the model with the torpedoes employed as ballast at the stern. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Perkasaman2 on March 25, 2013, 06:07:36 PM
Many thanks for the info Nick. These polo motors are certainly very effective. This is a good sized hull and  I'm assuming it's probably been built 1:12 scale and is approx 55" in length. The props and performance of the motors are well matched and the hull planes very well.  :-)
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 29, 2013, 06:38:47 PM
Hi Perkasaman


The CMB is built to 1/12th making it 55 inches long and about 12inches wide. Like yourself we are very happy to see the hull planing as intended!  :-))


The cockpit has been detailed at long last, the instrument panels have been built and are being painted tonight ready for next week's show.
Dad decided to keep his original plywood instrument panel and made his throttles from flattened copper pipe. The instrument bevels are small washers which will have their faces stuck to them once they have been painted. He has also made many other items for the cockpit. Last week I described what I thought was the throttles but are actually the torpedo release handles and they are located on the cockpit walls. These are made in the same manner as the real throttles!  :embarrassed:
The addition of a small box has appeared on the control panel area, this is the morse tapper in its box, simply made from a piece of wood painted grey.
But I suppose the biggest thing you would all have spotted as new is the strange brass object sitting on the forward superstructure. This item is the aiming device for the torpedoes. The pointer is missing at the moment but it is made from a modified 12mm diameter porthole with flattened copper pipe and thin brass wrapped around it. The device was controlled by the smaller wheel next to the boat's wheel in the cockpit.
The naviagtion light holders have been attached with 0.05mm brass wire and a new vent has been glued into position too.
The boat's compass has been attached to with a bracket made from 1/32" plywood whilst the item is a white metal example available from Mobile Marine Models.
The other strange fittings you can see in the aft part of the superstructure are the Lewis gun mounts made from brass tube and rod soldered together and filed to create a stop. At the moment they are not glued but will be at a later date once the guns themselves have been made.
Everything is being painted its final coat this weekend so it can all be stuck on permanently.


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Its starting to get very crowded on the superstructure now!!!  ;)
Still got add the crew too!!!
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: Cherub4 on March 30, 2013, 11:09:43 PM
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/Smileys/Tug/smiley1.gif)         Hi, raflaunches ,    What a great job you and your Dad have made of your  C.M.B. !!!         
      She really looks the business under way ,  you must be chuffed to bits with her.        I  have followed your build with a lot of interest over the past months as these boats are dear to my heart, I love the curves that are built into her shape,  like Spitfires they have no straight lines .     Unlike yourselves I made mine 3/4inch to the Ft , and in F/G  from my own plugs and moulds some 20yrs ago .   There not the  easiest boats to make and fit out ,as you no doubt found out , but well worth the effort I think .     I`m not having a lot of luck posting at the moment , finger trouble on my part

Im an absolute thicko with this laptop and its vagaries but I hope to be able to send pics any time soon    There are about 10 of my hulls skulking around  the  U.K .somewhere.   Only one person has    sent pics of the finished boat. Hope the others  arnt stuffed in the loft or worse.      Hope to continue this  rambling in due course .      Regards ,  Cherub4 .
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on March 31, 2013, 07:42:28 PM
Hi Cherub4


We are really happy that you like our CMB, she really does go like a bat out of hell!  :-))
My Dad now feels not alone , as you say the hull is not easy with curves everywhere and not a sole straight line.  It sounds like you had a harder time making your plug and moulds than we did with our wooden hull, after speaking with a few manufacturers in this hobby I know how difficult it can be producing a GRP hull. I'm sure that your hulls are safe and hopefully not in lofts, love to see your pictures of your CMB.
Anyway, welcome to the mayhem forum I'm sure you'll find your way around!
Regards


Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on May 12, 2013, 03:30:51 PM
Hi everyone


The CMB project is almost complete, the White Ensign was raised on Friday, a silk example we bought from the Coalville show, the cockpit has had the fire extinguishers fitted and a figure (David Tennant as Doctor Who) is screwed into place as the pilot. The only things left to do are the torpedo caps and the boat handling hooks. The windscreen Mk 2 has been painted and will be in position for the Mayhem show at Wicksteed.
The Lewis guns will be completed at a later date because we have a new project being started soon, plans have already been purchased from the NMM!!! This will be a big (very big!) shock- the hull will be almost 7.5 feet long but only 7 inches wide and 7 inches deep! That's the only clue we are giving, she might be ready for a initial viewing on her building board for the Warwick show in November. She will be a real monster.


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Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: ronkh on May 12, 2013, 05:35:23 PM
This will be a big (very big!) shock- the hull will be almost 7.5 feet long but only 7 inches wide and 7 inches deep!

Could it have something to do with a turbine??

Very nice build that you have done, looks the business and thanks for showing.

Kind regards,

Ron.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on May 12, 2013, 05:43:10 PM
Hi Ron


Thanks, she looks absolutely fantastic on the water!


Regarding the mystery project, no turbines but she was incredibly fast for her type, and heavily armed! Not the biggest guns ever fitted but just as dangerous! :-))


Regards


Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: ronkh on May 12, 2013, 05:54:35 PM
Cheers Nick.

I was thinking of the Turbinia(?)

Just reading/looking at this post again and what a talented dad you have.
Is that a Springer in one of the photos on a shelf?

Now to get back to looking through it!

Ron.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: ronkh on May 12, 2013, 06:01:10 PM
Sorry.

Just tried to up load a pic of the "Turbinia" but my fingers had a brain phart.  %%

Ron.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on May 12, 2013, 06:02:49 PM
Hi Ron


No, unfortunately you're way off with turbinia, this monster wasn't as fast a her but could have blown the speedy turbinia to bits!
You're right with one thing though, like turbinia she was a one off to prove something!  %)


Yes that our springer tug cunningly disguised as a RAF Air Sea Rescue launch called 'air rescue springer tug' and the name on the stern is 'Can't Be'. So all together she is Can't be ARST!
She has a new superstructure at the moment some what temporary with a dancing penguin toy for the Wicksteed Show  {-)


Enjoy your read


Regards


Nick B
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on May 12, 2013, 06:04:54 PM
Hi Ron your picture hasn't appeared properly, I've had a few problems today with pictures too.
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on June 09, 2013, 05:59:39 PM
Hi everyone

After the Saturday at the Mayhem weekend at Wicksteed we discovered that the port rudder/prop shaft support bracket had failed causing the shaft to stiffen dramatically!  <:(
Dad managed to take it apart and found that the solder on the brass joins had failed so he stripped all the paint and dismantled the bracket.
After a few swear words (ok a lot of swearing!) he managed to re-solder the joins using more solder than before. Luckily now the system works again but we decided to check our other boats and found a few other failures, see the HMS Gnat thread on this forum for the other re-soldering tasks! :-))
The CMB now has a crew member called David because he is a Doctor Who figurine of David Tennant! He is screwed in to the cockpit and his arms are poseable and rest on the boats wheel and throttles.
Hopefully it will be finished in the next month!
Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: raflaunches on July 14, 2013, 03:53:00 PM
Hi everyone


Here is the pictures of the last update from all those weeks ago!


David Tennant aka Doctor Who attached to the cockpit at the helm.


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And the silk White Ensign on its flag pole.


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Dad will finish the CMB off when he has completed this for a friend...


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Title: Re: WW2 Coastal Motor Torpedo Boats
Post by: herrmill on February 28, 2014, 03:58:08 AM
Hello Nick,


Its been sometime since your last update but I wanted to express my appreciation of your father's build. He certainly has done some excellent work! :-))


I'm starting a smaller 1:24 scale version of the late CMB55 & will be using this build as a reference.


Regards,


Chuck