Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Liverbudgie2 on December 11, 2011, 10:16:21 pm
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( Continued from here: ) http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=28436.msg340104#msg340104
This may give food for thought or perhaps not....
Liverbudgie
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Hello
Time clues ?
From my knowledge she's a purser trawler, certainely North Sea one from Norway or Scotland but found no name after some search ...
Xtian
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Has it been up so long? I had forgotten about it.
She is Scottish and the location is Peterhead late September 2011.
LB
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Did she appear in 'Trawlermen'?
Ned
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Its the Pelagic Trawler Lunar bow
David
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Did she appear in 'Trawlermen'?
Ned
I Know not.
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Its the Pelagic Trawler Lunar bow
David
It's been so long I've forgotten I'll have to check back through my pics.
LB
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Instead of Lunar Bow may I say Pathway ? (two satellite antenna in the mast for only one aboard of Lunar Bow )
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Instead of Lunar Bow may I say Pathway ? (two satellite antenna in the mast for only one aboard of Lunar Bow )
Having now unpacked my bag, I've been in Scotland for the New Year, and set my hard drives up again, the answer is that you indeed may make such a suggestion however, the name that you have provided is as invalid as the the one given by the previous respondent.
May I suggest that you think along the lines of a station (gare).
LB, who has returned from the lands of the Picks with a stinker of a cold and a dose of gout so, I'm in pain at either end, so to speak. <:( <:( <:(
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Kings Cross !!
Is that a name of a station ? I know only one british station name ... and so stupid for me... Waterloo station >>:-( For me Kings Cross is an Australian railway station close to Woolloomooloo and Naval Base
In fact I've seen long time ago this trawler named Kings Cross but she was red ! http://www.flickr.com/photos/29236302@N03/3219293781/
Then now with the name Lunar Bow and Pathway I searched for the owner compagnie site and found this - the third purser is Kings Cross http://www.lunarfreezing.co.uk/services/fishing That means the red boat is now with the owner colour : blue
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Indeed you are correct it is the Kings Cross.
The station is the London terminus for all East Coast main line trains running to the north. I know of the Kings Cross station in Sydney and the reputation the area had(has?) which i believe is somewhat similar to the London one; though I have to say I have don't have any experience of the service's which, I believe, are on offer in both locations.
LB
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Tatata, the Czechs were not involved in Austerlitz battle and are just indigeneous people around the battle place just like the Belgians of Waterloo - At Austerlitz it was Naploéon versus Russo-Austrian forces.
For Waterloo station imagine a Tokyo railway station named Pearl Harbour Station :embarrassed:
Anyway it's just humour as if our dictator won in 1815 maybe we would have a parisian station named Mont St Jean (French name for the same battle) ... Then my mind is not in so far away past. Closer to us now, a lot of men from my family served the Free French Naval Forces based in UK with welcome and support from British then even one of my uncle served the Royal Nay during that time.
Back to mystery ship, what about this one ?
(http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2012/01/05/120105122359809850.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
Xtian
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LB & xtian29 ......yes our Sydney Kings X underground railway station is still thriving :D .......I walked from the underground down to work @ Garden Island Dockyard every day for years
The area is still the 24/7 center of bright lights, sordid & rowdy :kiss: :P behaviour %) ...however sadly has been over run in the past 20 years with a far higher proportion of drug dealers & killers & killings >>:-( <:( .......Derek
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Oups, I remember a nice place with a long stair from the Naval Base level street up to a nice street with large shadow trees and colonial style houses, bed and breakfast and jazz bars. Then at the end of this street the Kings Cross station entry ...
Xtian
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just posting something so i get updates kk
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So, nobody have idea about this mystery ship ?
The first I've seen one of these ships (two sister ship) I was surprised as they are similar to the US Coast Guard Bear Class Cutter, the job of the mystery ship is also similar
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/01/08/120108024857495012.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
Xtian
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Coast Guard vessel? >>:-( ..... is that not a 76mm Oto Melara rapid fire gun on the foredeck?....... just like on our OZ FFG's....?
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Bear.
Lot of US Coastguard vessels are armed.
A piece about the Coastguard in this months Ships Monthly.
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So, she is a a coast guard vessel of some sort but, thinking about it, I suspect in more to do with customs or even collecting silly people who try to cross the Med on rubber rings. I surmise the location is not that of France but in the vicinity of 44°24′40″N 8°55′58″E though, of course, I may be completely wrong in my assumption in which case I shall be having umble pie for dinner.
LB
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Hello Liverbudgie
Nope, she's not italian and not french too. Not taht side of the world.
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No idea ... need a clue ? She's quite a chinese ship !
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humm looks very hard mystery ship ... When I said she's quite a chineses ship it's because she is Chinese but not from main land, not PRC but ROC
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CPS Ho Hsing in Keelung Harbour ?
Ned
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Yes she is the Taiwanese coast guard / custom ship Ho Hsing :-))
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/01/21/120121045505709236.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
Picture from shipspotting http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1097575
Your turn Ned
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Here ye go
Ned
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Too easy, I'm not playing!!
Havn't got any difficult pictures at the moment, Oh, alright HMS Scott.
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After the last one I thought an easy one would give a chance to the no seagoing members >>:-(
Ned
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I've been in an inflatable canoe and a first world war german battleship, surely that counts for something?
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Old Chief Stokers never die
They just smell that way.
Ned
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(http://s13.postimage.org/hya1d3uk3/Barge_and_load.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/hya1d3uk3/)
All three names please, barge and load, as was, not now.
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TS Foudroyant leaving Pompey for Teeside no idea what the barge and the other load is, can see no reference to those. Pic taken from round tower though.
LB
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Good start, two to go...
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TS Foudroyant nee H.M.S. Trincomalee along with the 177ft WWI Moniter "Minerva" on the way to Hartlepoole aboard the semi-submersible barge, Goliath Pacific
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Well done, top of the class. Over to you...
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This home grown workhorse left her original job for sunnier climes. Looking for her original name!
(http://s18.postimage.org/w6t2u6e9x/1048401.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/w6t2u6e9x/)
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Megalohari X ?
http://www.megalohari-tugs.gr/fleet_info.asp?FID=14
Or Megalohari VII ?
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=159201
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Megalohari VIII ?
Good try, very close but she didn't go into the water with that name.
(should have said that this was her name when the picture was taken but she wasn't built with that name)
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X ?
(sorry as I discovered there are two sister ship with the same compagny I've modify my previous message and during that time you answered ...)
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X ?
(sorry as I discovered there are two sister ship with the same compagny I've modify my previous message and during that time you answered ...)
Not the Megalohari X either though the 2 tugs were sister ships before they went to find the sun.
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1965 M.S.C. ULEX, 1983 MEGALOCHARI VIII ???
BB.
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Archangelos M :-))
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1048401
BB.
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Hi Folks
I just thought I'd join you as I think the thread will be a good one -
I've nothing to add at the moment.
Do you think Oscar Wilde would be remembered if he had made that last comment? Nope
...... 'I have nothing to declare except my genius' ...... That's Mayhem material.
Random thought seepage - I need a mental Tena Lady. :embarrassed:
Dave
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Well done, billyboy. She did indeed start her life as the Manchester Ship Canal tug, "Ulex". She moved on, via Malta, to Greece along with her sister ship "Undine" and was recent seen named the "Archangelos M" after spending time as the "Megalohari VII".
I chose this tug as my brother in law was Captain of the "Ulex" when she served with MSC Company and I was lucky enough to spend time aboard her.
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Lets have a go with this one.
BB.
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A clue ; she is Scottish built ok2
BB.
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I think she worked the North Sea and Irish coast most of her life.
BB.
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Hello
CORYSTES ? owned by CEFAS former ministry of agriculture fisheries & food (MAFF) ex stern trawler from Lowestoft.
Xtian
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Xtian, well done :-)) you can take the opportunity to post the next photo.
BB.
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Hello
Quite simple for the next ship as shadow play. I took this picture myself around 2003
(http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2012/01/28/120128041713715222.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com)
Xtian
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Too hard for Mayhem ? :o She was flying the Union Flag when I took that picture O0
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Not a Red Ensign ? {:-{
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Yep Duncan !
I don't know how you talk about that in UK as the name Red Ensign is not proper to talk about the country ... In French I have to say "portant le drapeau Britannique" (flying the British flag) without merchand marine or other ensign distinction
May be I have to say : flying the British Red Ensign (there is many other Red Ensign from Australia to Ghana ... )
Anyway, her registration port was London (in UK .. not in Ontario or in California :} )
Xtian
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Hi Xitian
Well I'll have a go ..........
Is it The European Highlander?
Dave
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Nope, I was far away from her "flag country" when I took this picture.
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looks very much like the Ocean Countess to me.
We have three main ensigns viz: Red,White and Blue with many variants in the in the Rouge & Blu departments.
LB :kiss:
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Complete stab in the dark, "Spirit of Adventure"?
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Flying the Union Flag on the mainmast would indicate a Court Martial in progress and most likely when moored. ( I think). Dont know the ship, ferry perhaps ?
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Humm ... not a ferry. not Ocean Countess or Spririt of Adventure.
By the way I well know the different ensign meaning ok2
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Is it the Al Mansour {:-{
aye
john
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Not a ferry means not Al Mansour :embarrassed:
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try this one http://peacework.blogspot.com/2005/04/best-of-best-of-world-now-this-is.html
xtian29 :-)) :-))
aye
john
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Oops, this Al Mansour ! sorry I was thinking that one : http://www.simplonpc.co.uk/Comanav/Al_Mansour_080316-2128_b.jpg
anyway it's not one or the other !
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The other ship it reminds me of is P&O's "Pacific Sky".
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You are right TailUK, she is Pacific Sky, I took this picture in the New Caledonia lagoon. At that time she was P&O based in Australia
she's now the Atlantic Star http://www.shipparade.com/az/Atlantic_Star/Atlantic_Star_2.htm
Your turn TailUK
Xtian
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A bit of an oddity but every thing you need to know is in the picture.
(http://s7.postimage.org/jdchhfeiv/0908u.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/jdchhfeiv/)
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Is it this
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-509738/Return-sail-power-Maiden-voyage-worlds-merchant-ship-powered-giant-kite.html
aye
john
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on Youtube too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4A0B_-aQK4
Dave
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Not many Kite sailers around but I didn't think you'd get it that quick. The Beluga it is!
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Lets try this one
aye
john
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Is this a bit difficult ?
Need a clue
Think of sub killer :-))
aye
john
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The only Q ship I can think of is HMS Tamerisk (sp?)
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HMS Tamerisk :-)) thats the one, over to you
TailUK
aye
john
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From sail to steam, greedily.
(http://s14.postimage.org/izileka3h/98978.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/izileka3h/)
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HMS Gannet?
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Unbuiltnautilus has the right of it, HMS Gannet.
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Damn it, that means I have to find another photo....tune in tomorrow :-)
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Try this one..
(http://s14.postimage.org/40zod89bh/Mod1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/40zod89bh/)
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Omani Nasr Al Bahr ?
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Oh! just beat me to it.
LB
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he he he :}
Then I was firstly on the wrong way as thinking about the Algerian ones !
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Different mast arrangements, Well done, over to you...
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We stay in Navy ship
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/02/03/120203032811620797.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120203032811620797.jpg)
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How many of those are still in commission.... getting bit long in the tooth arn't they?
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You naughty Breton trying to wind us up are you......? <*<
ARA Guerrico (P-32) or ARA DRUMMOND
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It's like a mini Type 21.
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You naughty Breton trying to wind us up are you......? <*<
Yep I'm naughty Breton as I throught to mislead with this Argentina aviso :}
They are not like the French ones , some details like the 76mm oto melara at rear !
Your turn Liverbudgie :-))
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ARA Guerrico? Isn't that the ship that the Royal Marines shot up at South Georgia in 1982?
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yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_Guerrico_(P-32)
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My apologies for the delay, this has been caused by my copy of CS3 no longer performing on the new PC I have just built for myself: should anybody be able to assist me in resolving this issue with little or no expense I should me immensely grateful. The alternative is just to awful to contemplate but, if it comes to it, I shall have to bite the bullet I suppose, nevertheless, it will cause me to.................. <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(
In the meantime you may contemplate this:
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Shovette
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Yes well it does do so a lot of the time but..it ani't its name.
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It looks like the MSC tug, Vigour. It would be certain if the bridge was elevated. (Damn it! Not MSC, Carmets!)
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is it M D H B ,,Surveyor ? ?
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No Dave Tail has it.
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She's really not the Vigour :o
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I'm confused now.
But that's normal for me O0 %% {-)
Dave
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Found this info
Dave
(http://s16.postimage.org/nvokioevl/Vigour_Wheelhouse_Raiseable.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/nvokioevl/)
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I've seen pictures of the Vigour with all same details as the mystery tug ! is there a sister ship ?
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It is the Vigour Owned by Carmmet Towing, she is seen entering the East Float Birkenhead after passing through A bridge from the Alfred Basin, I hope that will take care any confusion. As far as I am aware there is no sister vessel.
LB, who is a little warmer than earlier today.
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TailUK turn in that case ok2
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(http://s14.postimage.org/u4tlttg0d/nmjh.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/u4tlttg0d/)
Launched in 1938 She did convoy duty and survived until 1963
Operated mostly in the Southern Hemisphere
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The Boissevain I think?
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Boissevain_(ship,_1947) wartime photos
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1450838 awaiting scrapping
http://www.viweb.freehosting.net/JanChang.htm appears on a Mauritias stamp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bMNY5BqiHE Nice that someone took time to put this together
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7722_yGTjU&feature=related Long but some nice period footage later on
If correct I will pass on taking a turn.
I have to go to Leeds in a few minutes and don't want to hold the game up
Dave
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Absolutely correct Norseman, The Boissevain was a Dutch cruiseliner designed for over 800. In 1943 she sailed from Liverpool and joined a WS convoy to deliver my Father and the 2 Bn Sherwood Foresters in North Africa.
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The Boissevain I think?
If correct I will pass on taking a turn.
May I try a photo, possibly an easy one but lets give it a go :-))
BB.
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kang Sheng Kou ?
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Wow ! That was quick but it is wrong {-)
BB
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her sister ship Tai Ankou in that case !
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Isn't that TAI AN KOU rather than TAI ANKOU Xtian?
Either way it's yours.
Dave
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xtian29 has it :-)) :-))
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=1472442
Well Done :-))
BB
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Thank you BB, the next one :
(http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2012/02/08/120208094923286051.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120208094923286051.jpg)
Xtian
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as a clue : this ferry was built in France and have now wrongly a scottish name.
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There was a very similar ship called the Casablanca but I think that went to the Ukraine. If this is her then she was re-named the Caledonia?
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I think you are correct ;)
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=583891
BB.
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Jeepers - some ferries get around, She's on her seventh name now.
Ex Names: PRESIDENT YEIWENE (1993), CASABLANCA (1992), YEYE (1991), PANAGIA FANEROMENI (1989), QORMI (1973), POOLE ANTELOPE (1972)
Dave
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Yep Tail UK you are right
Her name is Caledonia and I said wrongly scottish as in fact she received this name when she was in New Caledonia (French territory in South Pacific) and there, people are so "lazy" that they are taliking about Calédonie instead of Nouvelle Calédonie and Caledonian instead of New Caledonian ... I was always "shocked" when I was there as for me Caledonia is part of Scotland !!! In New Zealand nobody cut and speak as Zealand !
So her name was Caledonia instead of New Caledonia, her previous name Président Yeiwéné was the name of a Kanak independentist leader there.
She's used now mainly between Istanbul and Ukraine
Your turn TailUK :-))
Xtian
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Hopefully this one will make you think a little. {-) I'm looking for the name of 3 ships, sister ships, infact.
(http://s13.postimage.org/tk5svif0z/N8876.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/tk5svif0z/)
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The nurse is Violet Jessop who was a VAD nurse during the First War.
She was on the Britannic when she was mined therefore I presume you want the Olympic, Titanic as well, which is being greedy but never mind eh.
LB
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Got it! The lady was aboard the Olympic when she collided with HMS Hawke, the Titanic when she collided with an iceberg and the Britanic when she collided with a mine. The lady's name was indeed Violet Jessup (although she was known to The White Star Line as "The Jynx").
An urban myth states that after surviving the Britanic, Miss Jessup would no longer be allowed to be carried aboard White Star ships. I don't know if this is true but you couldn't blame them if they had.
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http://www.titanic-whitestarships.com/MGY_Jessop.htm
interesting little read - took a coffee break
Dave
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The whole would be far to obvious so you will have to make do with this:
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Some sort of tanker...... I dont think cruise ships have that sort of front but beacause its obviouse maby the concordia
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exept from the fact thats still on the reef :embarrassed:
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The whole would be far to obvious so you will have to make do with this:
The more i look at this the more I see a ferry! The double Hawse-pipe is a little odd as they don't match. I'm thinking something like the old Isle of Man ferries but I also don't think that's right.
The only one I know of in preservation is Manxman but it's not her. I'm going to need another clue I'm afraid.
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Africa Mercy
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No, not IOM vessel nor liner of any sort but a tanker? Certainly, single skin though, but still in use, for a while at least.
LB
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When I've seen her the first time I was thinking navy tanker as black waterline but with only a small part of ship {:-{
single skin though, but still in use, for a while at least.
I'm thinking now Orangeleaf ?
Xtian
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Tailuk,it was HMS Hawke that collided with the Olympic,not the other way round. <*<
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Tailuk,it was HMS Hawke that collided with the Olympic,not the other way round. <*<
You can use "collided" with an "indeterminancy of participant" so although Hawke collided with the Olympic, you can also say Olympic and Hawke collided and still be correct.
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The more i look at this the more I see a ferry! The double Hawse-pipe is a little odd as they don't match. I'm thinking something like the old Isle of Man ferries but I also don't think that's right.
The only one I know of in preservation is Manxman but it's not her. I'm going to need another clue I'm afraid.
I can only see one hawse pipe ??, do you mean the two Panama leads near the top ?, there just two different leads, perhaps one was replaced at some point.
Think the preservation on the Manxman has been given up now and she's going to be scrapped.
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Yet again Xtain has it; it is indeed the RFA Orangeleaf undergoing her last major re-fit.
LB.
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Humm I happy to win with a British RFA ship ... Versus all british people of this forum :D
The next mystery ship is a "black cigar", I think not so hard but I hope not so easy
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/02/15/120215062309310068.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120215062309310068.jpg)
Xtian
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Is it one of the six Rubis class French SSNs if so who know which one?
Geoff
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The Chilean Navy ordered two Scorpene S22 & S23 - O'Higgins and Carrera, they replaced two Oberon class submarines and are based at Talcahuano.
There was a big scandal in mid 2011 about six the Indian navy ordered. I thnk it is one of the Chilean ones .......... don't know how you could say which though {:-{
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg_PBGrc-DE
(http://s17.postimage.org/kqgdbmyh7/Scorpene_OHiggins_Cutaway_lg.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/kqgdbmyh7/)
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Yep Norseman you are right she is Chilian Scorpène (one of the two ...)
Strangely when you see on the link you gave, the images are not with Scorpène but Agosta - easy difference with foreplanes on the sail for Scorpène and Rubis types but on the hull for Agosta type .
Your turn
Xtian
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Hi Xtain
That promotional video was posted in early 2006 and only the computer graphics are correct images - like at 3:10
I thought the good description might be enjoyed though - and the jpg I posted is correct for the class.
I remember a fuss about the indian ones last year but I can't remember any detail - do you know what it was?
Give me a few minutes and I'll post another up.
Dave
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(http://s15.postimage.org/ayzc44453/floaty.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ayzc44453/)
Well at least you won't confuse this one with anything else {-)
Dave
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Kalakala?
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SS Admiral
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SS Admiral
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So Quickly and only seconds apart.
The force is strong with Liverbudgie and Mikearace :}
Dave
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Yeah liver'budgie' is a misnomer. He swooped like a hawk seconds before I realised it was another art deco. Liverbuzzard.
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Sorry for butting in but this is a sad but interesting one
(http://s13.postimage.org/l0bizf083/sadship.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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Sorry but if I click on it - it just goes to an upload page?
Dave
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Mike have you thought that maybe 'Liver' budgie lives a few seconds closer to me than you do?
%% {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-)
Dave (in 'Liver'pool)
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(http://s16.postimage.org/bef8yery9/sadship.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/bef8yery9/)
How about now?
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Yes I can see her now - Invincible.
Dave
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Bingo!
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But what are the names of the two vessels in the background?
Dave
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Hey Boathound
Here's something that may interest you
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2012/feb/06/saving-navy-history/
Dave
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I wish them luck, I just hope they save HMS Caroline when her commission is over. {:-{
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Caroline is now de-commissioned but will not be scrapped; she will either stay in Belfast or move to Pompey.
LB
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Members of the budgie species can have large, sharp tallons.
Cette image peut, ou non, l'intérêt Xtian, pour cet après-midi, elle a quitté Birkenhead de La Rochele où elle est due à la 18 courant. (Does not look right to me, but there 'yer go).
LB , who has Huguenot blood in his veins.
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Hi Liverbudgie
What does Huguenot actually mean?
I have heard the name before but not really
caught on to who was being refferred to.
Re the Rind? - is that part of the game? If yes/
correct, then I will pass - You got the Admiral
with an embarrasing speed Wow!. I need to find
something harder before I have another go
at stumping you guys .......... and no US ferries
either as you know my interest in them O0 {-)
......... Hmmm maybe a pedalo %%
Dave
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How on earth did you know it was the Rind, are you a member of another site such as ais? My humour falls flat at times I'm afriad, what I was saying is that she left Birkenhead yesterday and is due La Rochele, a port Xtian knows well I expect, on the 18th.
As for the Huguenots see here and other sites: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huguenot
As for us. We settled in Spittlefields in the east end of London as silk weavers apprently my great,great, great, moved to Coventry in around 1840/50 by canal, on the demise of the silk trade there he became an apprentice watchmaker and eventually set up a business in at 4, Mount Street, Coventry. This surived the bombing in 1940 and still exists; many of his watches can be seen in Coventry Museum though I have never been to look. My Grandfather moved to Liverpool in about 1880 a set up another watchmaking business; I am the fourth and probably the last generation in the family to be involved with watches and clocks.
LB
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Hello
It's easy for me with this info that she's going to La Rochelle : she must be the Rind I'm absolutly not a specialist in dregger hopper, I just hope my info is good :embarrassed:
Xtian
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Oops, I just seen that you gave the answer LB .... Why <:(
About Huguenot, it's strange to refer as it as in fact this term was given by ennemies to this people and not really appropriate to them.
Xtian
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Xtian,
1) Probably because like me you were still your bed when he answered.
2) This is new to me perhaps, when you have the time, you could expand on that aspect.
3) You can post the next one if you want to.
LB
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Oops ... I also not seen that Norseman gave the answer ... %% %% I have to going back to my bed {-)
As Rind was a fully unknown word (and ship name ok2) I passed on it ... now I've read better the complete Norseman message : sorry
OK I take the turn even if my search was not so academic : just having a look to the traffic incoming for La Rochelle harbour O0
Not a US ferry ... just a poor old hull waiting for scrapping after two "carreer"
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/02/16/120216014459120537.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120216014459120537.jpg)
Xtian
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Hi
Yes I am a night creature LB - I work nights and if I am not working I still don't go to bed before 5-6 a.m.
{-) and no I am not a member of anything special
The answer to this just meant digging around on the internet. The picture has liverpool in the background,
and though I don't speak French (really wish I could read it at least) you mention two ports and 18. The internet
will get you RIND, then start looking to find a picture of a ship caled RIND. I found one where the paint was blue
not orange - that threw me for a while but I went with it anyway. Was it part of the game or just chat with Xtian?
The other thing I was doing was Slug asked about a tug at Sharpness with a red funnel with a gold crest. I mooched
about and think it is THOMAS registered in Southampton. I could only obtain one image - I would like a better one.
I am waiting to see if I was right.
Dave
(http://s13.postimage.org/97hav4e0j/The_Tug_Thomas_at_Sharpness.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/97hav4e0j/)
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Well that looks like the environs of Toulon; at first I thought it was the remains of the Aunis however, on reflection and consulting my copy of Janes 1978-9 I now believe it to be the remains of the La Saone of 1948, a vintage year I might add, which was ordered as a fleet tanker but completed as a merchant vessel before being returned to the Navy.
No Norseman there is no game just me showing my ignorance. If you are stuck with French or any other language give Google translater a try, I find it to be pretty good.
LB
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Hi LB
I just meant this game - I'm sorry if you thought I meant anything else.
Re translators - I had a bad experience with an English to German one
so I avoid them now.
I found some more pictures based on your last reply
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=la+saone&x=20&y=2
but I couldn't find one in service and that was what I was after really.
Dave
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Hummm in fact I was thinking this mystery ship more difficult as this picture is an actual one and the Saone disapeared from the view very long time ago.
In fact she is well the Saone and it's like surealistic as she came back to Toulon in 2009, 70 years after her launch and 30 years after her decommissioning ! Since 1982 she was out of view as used as breakwater in the military part of the small island of Levant, this part of the island is used as fire range test ... nobody go there !
http://www.meretmarine.com/article.cfm?id=110242
The Saone and the Seine were pretty nice ship "old fashion" ones !
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/02/16/120216035844351023.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120216035844351023.jpg)
Back to you LB !
Xtian
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Oh, Ok then.
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Oh, Ok then.
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Prince Madog?
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That must be a record!!
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Commisioned by Bangor University - not a million miles from Jerry I think O0
Well done indeed.
Dave
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Yes, I went after the skippers job on the old one. The last time I saw this one, she was high and dry on a mussel bed in Plymouth I think it was. There but for the Grace of God etc!!!
Try this one taken in Capetown last year:-
(http://s17.postimage.org/xznusi9sr/photo_4.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xznusi9sr/)
Jerry.
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QM2 ?
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is that the blue sky on the key ,same one thats in the east float ?
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Tug may be the ENSELENI?
Dave
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No Dave that's the Most Sky and it's the West Float.
lb
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Well done xtian, it's yours.
(http://s14.postimage.org/5e8m4vrwd/photo_5.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5e8m4vrwd/)
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Next one ok2
(http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2012/02/16/120216082236328091.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120216082236328091.jpg)
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Need a clue ?
As Norseman said :
... and no US ferries O0 {-)
either as you know my interest in them
......... Hmmm maybe a pedalo %%
Then : she's not a pedalo :embarrassed:
Xtian
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So she's an american ferry with a british name. Prince of Wales!
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YEP :-)) A special ship for Norseman !
Your turn TailUK
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Staying in the American vein, here's a merchie with a southern connection.
(http://s14.postimage.org/ou8k8hzil/898767.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ou8k8hzil/)
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Thanks for finding me a new ferry route to look at - I was looking towards Finland and Sweden :embarrassed:
I see they also have Seaplanes - I would love to try them out.
Dave
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No problem, nip up to Glasgow. www.lochlomondseaplanes.com O0
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Maybe I will Duncan :-)
While I'm here; here is a photo I really like. Izumo
Just thought I'd share it - not part of the game
Dave
(http://s13.postimage.org/sgenid8ub/Izumo_04.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/sgenid8ub/)
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Sorry Dave, I'm not into warships of this period and cannot tell which vessel is depicted.
I wonder if this thread is dormant?
May I stir it up and resuscitate it a little?
A couple of days ago I created a lines plan with DELFTship of a vessel that intrigued me
but for which there is next to none documentation available as far as drawings are concerned.
I was baffled about so much obfuscation that reminded me somehow of paranoia.
So much that I thought I should start filling the void with my own contributions.
Can you name the ship?
But I fear this little trivia is so easy that I probably first should have started
by only unveiling the right half (viz. the fore ship) of the body plan.
(http://slipway.in-berlin.de/maritime/ships/bilge/flotsam.jpg)
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Deadwood - I must disagree - you most certainly can name the vessel
That aside my real interest is in the composition of the photo not the ship.
Warships aren't my thing, though I like their build threads. I like ferries
(mainly USA) and most older working vessels.
Your lines I will leave for another member as I was watching your interesting
conversation with Carl - so a bit unfair for me to pop back and solve it.
Re thread I have an idea to pursue from the clue so not dead yet.
The ship is the Izumo as I mention in the post O0
Dave
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My last post certainly seems to have stumped people, or they couldn't care less {-) The ship was named for a southern american state.
(http://s14.postimage.org/4kj0b7w4t/898767.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4kj0b7w4t/)
If no one know this then I declare myself the winner and we can start a fresh game. :P %% %% :-))
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Re thread I have an idea to pursue from the clue so not dead yet.
That was what I was going to try next, States and then City names. You deserve another go
anyway just for it lasting so long O0
Dave
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Mind you, it's a good looking boat for a merchie. I'm not usually one for cargo ships but this is pretty stylish.
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Search = Alabama ship
Thank God it was only an 'A' search - first page
(http://s18.postimage.org/s3otkhtp1/Alabama.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/s3otkhtp1/)
which takes you to http://7seasvessels.com/?p=78577
Only got it from the clue and early letter A
Please go again Tail ...... nothing from Wyoming please {-)
Dave
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We don't want HMS Zulu >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Ned
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And the beat goes on, not harf!
(http://s9.postimage.org/ygi7j2myj/65456.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ygi7j2myj/)
Looking for the name of the vessel and how she became better known.
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Federicia, first Radio Caroline ?
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That's right, pop-pickers. Inspiration for "The Boat That Rocked". Over to xtian29
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Just beat me Xtain - I was getting a photo
(http://s12.postimage.org/i45tgpe9l/M_V_Fredricia_Radio_Caroline.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/i45tgpe9l/)
Showing my age knowing this one O0
Dave
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Hello old Norseman, a ferry ... US or not ?? :}
(http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2012/02/23/120223025027756127.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120223025027756127.jpg)
Xtian
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Hi Xtian
Pointe de Grave. :-)
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ferry_Boat_Pointe_de_Grave.JPG
Dave
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He he ... Not far but Point de Grave is the place and not the name of that ferry,anyway the picture is also not the right ship. I'm happy, you are not lost on a US data ferries :}
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The last caroline aka Ross Revenge
Ned
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Hi Xtian
Sorry L'Estuaire, Bordeaux - I didn't enlarge the image to check. But you say it is the wrong vessel - so on we go.
Dave
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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b1/Bac_Chte-Mme_030.jpg
La Gironde?
Dave
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Yes she's La Gironde. There is two ferries on the link between Le Verdon and Royan crossing the river Gironde (in the Bordeaux vineyard area).
The older is La Gironde built in Spain in 2002 and the newest is L'Estuaire built in Poland/France seven years later. They are very close in design but different in detail, having to count the window and portholes :embarrassed:
Your turn dave ... an US ferries ?
Xtian
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Something easier - but can I have the name post 1962 please.
........... her owners in the seventies were arrested for drug smuggling O0
Dave
(http://s16.postimage.org/cfulre54x/boaty_4u.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/cfulre54x/)
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George Haig ?
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:embarrassed: Yes Xtian - a super quick answer
http://www.nationalhistoricships.org.uk/ships_register.php?action=ship&id=2037
over to you
Dave
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A simple one for next
(http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2012/02/23/120223093936321302.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120223093936321302.jpg)
Xtian
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I've seen that before I think, a few years ago in Cherbourg ?. No idea of the name though
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Looks like a Loch Class though
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hun hun ... she's that one ! but she's not a Loch Class
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H.M.S.WINDRUSH ?
La Decouverte
aye
john
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Well a river class so not far off Lochs in design.
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Yes Bluebird, she's the River Class former HMS Winrush - French Navy La Découverte and later Lucifer II as firefighting training ship at Querqueville close to Cherbourg
http://www.netmarine.net/g/dossiers/cherbourg/lucifer.htm
Your turn John
Xtian
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:-)) let try this one
aye
john
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ARS 42 Reclaimer ?
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USS Conserver?
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Nope Jonty ... :embarrassed:
(http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2012/02/24/120224010124393750.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120224010124393750.jpg)
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Xtian has it :-)) :-))
aye
john
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Another ferry for the next
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/02/24/120224022955517851.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120224022955517851.jpg)
Xtian
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I have been looking at Ferries again :} ......... or wasting time as my good wife calls it. %)
How about this Xtian? Am I correct?
1974 Camille Marcoux - IMO 7343578 running Matane-Baie-Comeau-Godbout.
Here's an article - halfway down the page there's a small image of her propellers (sadly it won't enlarge)
http://www.groupeverreault.com/en/newsletter/index.asp see Vol 38 section.
There are eight general photos of her here
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/search.php?query=camille+marcoux&x=32&y=8
and one here - open wide now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cmarcoux3.JPG
I read somewhere she can icebreak too and is an all year round ferry but I'm not sure re ice.
Tell you what I can never find - photos of ferries etc being launched. {:-{ I do search for them.
Dave
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YEP you are the winner ! She is the Camille Marcoux I took this picture at Godbout - Quebec.
I was searching for an US ferry but the one I have taken by myself are too easy : Puget Sound, Alaska and New York ! So I came to my Canadian ferries data with this one.
Your turn Norseman :-))
Xtian
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Oh - Puget Sound images are always welcome O0
Here we go then - built as a ferry in 1961 servicing a pulp mill community, sold for use as a work
boat in 2002 and briefly appeared in at least one film (pic 3) after that sale. I see she is now up
or sale again for $can 199,500. N
(http://s16.postimage.org/qr7od2hlt/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qr7od2hlt/)
(http://s18.postimage.org/qsdhc4b05/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/qsdhc4b05/)
(http://s17.postimage.org/lhzbtcbzf/Film_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/lhzbtcbzf/)
Dave .................. sorry it's another ferry lads
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GARIBALDI, then WESTWOOD, and present name A.J. Savoie?
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OOH :-))
Just one ferry - two names for it. I'll take either
but both gets extra credit - but if you
name the film too then I'm really impressed.
Modify your answer LB ?
Dave
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My information makes no mention of any film this vessel was used in.
LB
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Hi LB
I think/believe that only one element of four elements in your answer is correct.
Dave
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Hi LB
I think/believe that only one element of four elements in your answer is correct.
Dave
I'm lost.
LB, currently taking picture of real puff puff's. Loverly to hear and see a Britannia at almost full chat for the first time since June 1965.
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Pictures pleeeeease. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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I'm lost.
From what I have LB
It's not Garabaldi or Westwood, and the present name is not the A.J. Savoie ;)
However it was the originally the A.J. Savoie
Given that do you want to continue for the current name? Or should I declare my information?
Dave :-)
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Pictures pleeeeease. :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
Will do when I get home (left the downloading thigy at home)
LB
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From what I have LB
It's not Garabaldi or Westwood, and the present name is not the A.J. Savoie ;)
However it was the originally the A.J. Savoie
Given that do you want to continue for the current name? Or should I declare my information?
Dave :-)
I will make a decision after the match.
LB
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See what you mean now took all of 30 secs:R.J. Breadner
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bcfs/3096362934/
LB who is now exhausted :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-))
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Hi LB
Over to you for the next one :-))
I'll post up what I have anyway - just a couple of minutes reading.
Will take me a couple of minutes to post it though.
Dave
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Hi LB
This is what I have dug down to
MV Albert J. Savoie IMO 5126287 (image 1) is an N -Class 31metre ferry built for BC Ferries by Allied Builders of Vancouver in 1961 and registered as Victoria. The Transport Canada search can be found at http://wwwapps.tc.gc.ca/saf-sec-sur/4/vrqs-srib/d.aspx?lang=e&shipid=314008 . A Deisel twin screw of 10 knots with a vehicle capacity of 16 and a passenger capacity of 133. For most of her ferry life, she served the route from Darrel Bay Ferry Terminal, just south of Squamish, BC, to Woodfibre, a pulp mill community on the west shore of Howe Sound. For her last years at BC Ferries, she served as a training vessel, based out of Deas Dock, BC Ferries refit center. In 2002, she was officially retired from BC Ferries. She was then bought by Mountain Marine Transportation and renamed R.J Breadner IMO 5126287 to work around British Columbia as a work-boat out of Porpoise Bay .She was a BC Ferries identical sister to the N class Nimpkish, the Nicola and the Garibaldi II; the smallest class of vessels in the BC fleet. The ship is currently for sale by Harlow Marine International for $can199,500. This link to R.J Breadner and his family photos, it has the only helm image I have found so far and it's the renaming http://www.pbase.com/portwelland/mountain_marine_transportation_ltd
The vessel appears in the opening or 'homecoming' scene of the 2004 film Walking Tall (original was 1973) http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0351977/ She bears the name The Albert J Savoie, though seen there as that ferry I believe she was (by this time) no longer owned by BC Ferries. According to local sources Capt. John Horn had to take the 'Savoie' back and forth between Britania Beach and Squamish 14 times (including the film crew following in a helicopter) just for that one opening shot. She very briefly appears right after the mgm lion in http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi2258961689/
She has also been in another movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1053810/ called The Big Year, facts were damned elusive but the filming was at Darrell Bay near Squamish in May 2010 with Darrell Bay filling in as WSF's Anacortes Terminal. I found a picture of her arriving for filming; the Breadner possibly playing the Hiyu (no data yet). She flew an American flag during filming too. From the trailer at 1:40sec you can make out the out of focus vessel in the background http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCBAP2wId5M
Local boards in 2007 mention her appearing in a Suzuki car television ad for which the ferry was freshly painted in the Expo scheme and given fake bow doors. excapg2 is on The West Coast Ferries Forum at http://ferriesbc.proboards.com/index.cgi he was working as the Skipper of the R.J Breadner in the summer of 2008 so may also have been there in 2007 for the advert.
Page http://www.workinglives.ca/ferries/song-albert-j-savoie.html just caught my interest as there are some childhood memories that leads to a song being written about the man Albert J. Savoie and his working life around ferries. A researcher might find it tempting to pick facts from it – you can listen at http://www.workinglives.ca/music/Albert-J-Savoie.mp3 or just read the text.
The British Columbia Ferry Services Inc. or more commonly known as BC Ferries is the Canadian ferry company that provides all ferry services in the western Canadian province of British Columbia. The company was formed in the late 50's, after a strike by employees of Black Ball Line caused the government to form BC Ferries. The very first route of the company was the Swartz Bay-Tsawwassen route with the first ferries of the fleet, the Sidney and the Tsawwassen serving the route. Since then, the company has grown massively with 25 main routes, 11 classes and 36 vessels currently owned by the company. The Spirit of British Columbia and the Spirit of Vancouver Island are the current flagships of the company. The company's worst accident occured in 2006, when the Queen of the North, bound for Port Hardy, collided with Gil Island and sank in the early hours of the morning. All but two passengers were rescued. Another infamous incident occured when the Queen of Oak Bay lost power outside the terminal at Horseshoe Bay and crashed into a nearby marina. Nobody was hurt and the ferry sustained minor damage. 28 pleasure craft, however, were either damaged or destroyed. My interest in this last paragraph really all stems from following the MV Kalakala history.
(http://s7.postimage.org/dhql8zplz/Albert_J_Savoie_ferry_crossing_Lambert_Channel_1983.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/dhql8zplz/)
(http://s13.postimage.org/5vnoqp5sj/RJ_Breadner_5_Bay.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5vnoqp5sj/)
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So ? What's up now ?
Xtian
PS I like the last picture, everything I like from BC and Puget Sound : sea, mountain, forest, nature, snow and sun (sometime) My dream is to leave in a old wood tug in this area.
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LB's turn Xtian
Maybe the Ellesmere port show was too much for him
He had his photo taken twice O0 {-)
Dave
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Thrice actually,
I'll sort something later seeing you have all woken up now.
LB, with sprained ankle, so says doc at local drop in centre, and hoping ligament does not tear after tripping on pavement last week.
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The best picture I have ever seen, in fact the only picture I've ever seen, of this vessel.
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:-))
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Are we stuck then?
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I first thought it might be Carpathia or even the Californian It looks to be of that era. Mount Pleasant?
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Sorry for the delay I missed the last post.
Much earlier than the vessels named but, at least, one owner is identified.
LB
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Abysinia?
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Abyssinia certainly had many similarities with the subject above but, was an earlier example.
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Have we given up then? After after the spare time you have had for that research as well.
LB
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Hello
Very nice ship, very nice picture but no idea about her name, maybe you have to give us the right answer and post another one please to continue the game ?
If you altered the pic to hiden the name or compagny or flag, could you post it again without alteration as it's a very nice ship !
Xtian
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Before I do as you suggest some more clues - she is a Cunard ship and regard by some as the first real Atlantic liner, think of an area that encompassed northern Italy, most of Switzerland, France and Belgium or even a French president who was told to leave Canada for inciting the local population set up their own state.
LB
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Thanks to this clue and the list of all cunard ships, may I say Gallia
Strange as you talk about De Gaulle as inciting Quebec people to leave Canada. For us we think De Gaulle as the leader of the Free French Forces during the WWII and then after this a great political man for France. But it's thrue that "Vive le Quebec libre" was like a sting for English speaking Canada and British history with Acadian stories etc... ;D
Xtian
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Thanks to this clue and the list of all cunard ships, may I say Gallia
Strange as you talk about De Gaulle as inciting Quebec people to leave Canada. For us we think De Gaulle as the leader of the Free French Forces during the WWII and then after this a great political man for France. But it's thrue that "Vive le Quebec libre" was like a sting for English speaking Canada and British history with Acadian stories etc... ;D
Xtian
I concur with Xtian - S.S. Gallia
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Hooray we got there at long last!!
I did not mean that he was inciting the people of Quebec to move elsewhere what he was doing was inciting them to declare themselves independent, at a time when there was a lot of unrest in the Provence.
Indeed De Gaulle was a great statesman - for the French however, he was regarded as pain in the rear department by everyone else but, at least, he kept us out of the common market for long enough for most people to see the con it actually is.
To see that Cross of Lorraine emerge over the horizon as one travels down the E9 (?) towards Colombey-les-Deux-Églises is one of the most memorable sites I have seen though.
LB
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http://www.waughfamily.ca/Waugh/index.htm
See two thirds down the page above for some other images,
and these two below are from a university site search - not many images available
(http://s13.postimage.org/xm7lwtsoz/G1318214.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xm7lwtsoz/)
(http://s10.postimage.org/6o4wzb7yd/G1318217.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6o4wzb7yd/)
Dave
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An easy one for next
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/03/28/120328115355383672.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120328115355383672.jpg)
Xtian
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A clue ?
She's the "admiral ship" of a small sunny country where people are speaking English and a French Creole.
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Looks like the Mauritian Coast Guard ship Vigilant
Geoff
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Yep, you are right, she a close sister ship to the Irish Naval Forces L.É. RÓISÍN
Your turn Geoff
Xtian
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Try this one - should be reasonably easy
Geoff
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Soviet navy cruiser Sverdlov class : Zdanov
Xtian
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Toooo easy- your go Xtain
Geoff
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Too easy I don't know but it was part of my job to recognize foreign navy ship ;D
Next one is still a navy ship
(http://nsa22.casimages.com/img/2012/03/31/120331041509957885.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120331041509957885.jpg)
Xtian
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The Rumanian Marasesti? Which was previoulsy Timsoara and peviously Muntenia?
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Yep you're right Mikerace,
Your turn
Xtian
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Try this one for a quick turnaround.
(http://s10.postimage.org/7lyb4ymyt/image.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7lyb4ymyt/)
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Looks very Germanic to me..... but I'm north of the boarder at present and it's late.
LB
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but I'm north of the boarder
Gone through the Mersey Tunnel have you LB?
Dave
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is she an early Z class destroyer
Geoff
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No but very close to home for you Geoff. One of Hawthorn Leslie's many inter war builds for our foreign allies.
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its the bartolomeu dias or the alfonso de albuquerque err me thinks
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Oooooh so close............almost there
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my last guess would be hmcs ottawa or the slazak ex beadale {:-{
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You were in the right country before and right class.
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is it the goncalo velho
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well it isn't but it is!! It's actually the sister ship Goncalves Zarco but that would be your next guess by process of elimination so its over to you Brian.
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yes you were right, zarco was next,,, heres an easy one for you all
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Ronald Reagan?
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Nope, but not so far, she's the USS George H.W. Bush (CVN 77)
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soz 4 late reply,,, yes xtian shes the g w bush,,, :-))
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Tatata Brian : Not the G W Bush but the father G H W Bush ! Not sure that the son deserve this honnor %), the father is a former Navy pilot.
Next one, easy one :
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/04/02/120402013340266616.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120402013340266616.jpg)
Xtian
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Theodor Heuss?
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Nope
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Not too far from Kalakala country you will find a maritime museum
and a fairly recent addition - I think this is it - enjoy :}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7PeAixHR38
Last flight of the Peacock
Dave
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Yes, this German search and rescue style boat was a US Pilot boat for years on the Columbia river at Astoria. She's the Peacock :-))
Your turn Dave
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Hi Lads
I hope this one can give you a bit of a challenge.
It's something I was specifically looking for a while
ago, and it wasn't easy for me to find. Have fun
Dave
(http://s17.postimage.org/pl3v04wx7/a_world_away.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pl3v04wx7/)
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It seems rather quiet here lads so maybe you'd like to look at this ;)
(http://s18.postimage.org/sqrohwso5/a_clue.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/sqrohwso5/)
Dave
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Just as I'm awake, but not to take a turn, I'll guess at Sputnik1
no idea what your ship post is tho.
Cheers
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There's a support vessel, out of the Cayman Islands, called Sputnik.
(http://s17.postimage.org/k7xf73raj/SPUTNIK.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/k7xf73raj/)
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Sputnik is very good but it isn't a ships name (not for mine anyway)
Cayman islands is the wrong group, and you'll need to begin the journey in the north east because it's a few fair
miles to your destination
(http://s15.postimage.org/mnwzjlm07/tonga.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/mnwzjlm07/)
Dave
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A Spinningdale class trawler? Known as "Sputnicks" It obviously somewhere a lot warmer then her home waters if it is.
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The Spinningdale class was built by John Lewis shipyard in Aberdeen Scotland. Davie Tait has an interesting
Spinningdale class post here http://www.shipsnostalgia.com/showthread.php?t=8830
I believe the (at least my) Sputniks were built in the North East of England by the builder I named earlier. ;)
Ooh and I do love this bit - she actually is in her home waters O0
Dave
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The Tongan fishing vessel Pakeina.
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Yes Perkina, 1965 out of Berwick by Fairmile, builder of the Fair isle class (or Sputniks). Perkina was
the last one (a modified version) built for the Tongan government.
The class has a nice write up here http://www.berwickshipyard.com/Fishing%20Vessels.html
and if you click on the photo you get to see a description of a passage on her - and the pigs. {-)
(http://s14.postimage.org/xgucad1al/Pakeina_at_Falehau_Niuatoputapu.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xgucad1al/)
I am still trying to find out what happened to Perkina - maybe she's still afloat under another name?
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I would venture to suggest that Tonga is not north east of the Cayman Islands....
LB
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Hi LB
I never said it was my friend - The Perkina's Journey began in the NE of England at Berwick.
I just got interested in her and then it was very hard to find any info so she stuck in my mind.
Dave
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I would venture to suggest that Tonga is not north east of the Cayman Islands....
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/04/07/120407124418481632.gif) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120407124418481632.gif)
I confirm ! I made a stop there on a travel between New Caledonia and Tahiti . I don't remember the name of the town (not easy one) but I still have the plate received from the Tongian Navy ship who was in charge of us.
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/04/07/120407125359428893.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120407125359428893.jpg)
By the way, I've never sailed the Carribean sea
The mystery ship is a nice looking fishing boat as travel home :-))
Xtian
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Oops sorry - just noticed I mispelt Pakeina earlier :D
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Yes Perkina, 1965 out of Berwick by Fairmile, builder of the Fair isle class (or Sputniks). Perkina was
the last one (a modified version) built for the Tongan government.
The class has a nice write up here http://www.berwickshipyard.com/Fishing%20Vessels.html
and if you click on the photo you get to see a description of a passage on her - and the pigs. {-)
(http://s14.postimage.org/xgucad1al/Pakeina_at_Falehau_Niuatoputapu.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xgucad1al/)
I am still trying to find out what happened to Perkina - maybe she's still afloat under another name?
Apparently she's still active under name Pakimoeto'I.
O.K. My turn. This vessel underwent a radical re-fit and also changed her name. What's her name and what did she become.
(http://s15.postimage.org/8ikaf7dh3/1790_b_13_6_31_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8ikaf7dh3/)
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Did it become a Glasgow tenement block?
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{-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) Very good!
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TailUK ....did she become an aircraft carrier? :D
I cannot see the name on the monument over looking the water... >:-o ....could it be one of the Great Lakes of North America?...........Derek
Courtesy of GOOGLE ....
Wolverine - a side-wheel excursion steamer built in 1913 - was originally named Seeandbee, a name based upon her owners' company name, the Cleveland and Buffalo Transit Co.[5] She was constructed by the American Ship Building Company of Wyandotte, Michigan. The Navy acquired the sidewheeler on 12 March 1942 and designated her an unclassified miscellaneous auxiliary, IX-64. She was purchased by the Navy in March 1942 and conversion to a training aircraft carrier began on May 6, 1942.[6] The name Wolverine was approved on August 2, 1942 with the ship being commissioned on August 12, 1942.[6][7] Intended to operate on Lake Michigan, IX-64 received its name because the state of Michigan is known as the Wolverine State.
http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/094606401.jpg
http://www.navsource.org/archives/09/46/094606402.jpg
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That's right, well done. Your turn!
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nice mystery ship !
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That photo was at Mackinac Island and the statue is Father Jacques Marquette
Here's a nice shot of her
(http://s18.postimage.org/o0cug0qad/Seeand_Bee.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/o0cug0qad/)
Dave
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OK....here we go again... %) ....Derek
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T.S. Duchess of Argyll?
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:-))...she is the Duchess of Argyll...the image was lifted from "Clyde River Steamers of the last Fifty Years" by McQueen..... as printed in 1922..... O0 .....Derek
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The picture must have been taken in a very small window as it's after the large apertures at the bows were filled in and before they started painting the funnel tops black.
Right, reasonably easy one now, a well known tug in warpaint!
(http://s18.postimage.org/f44jt2x91/Tug001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/f44jt2x91/)
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Joffre?
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Thinking along the right lines but not Joffre
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Marie Felling?
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Nope, another try?
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An empire?
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Cervia?
Dave
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He shoots, He scores! Sorry Mike!
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Ah that fooled me as the davits aren't as per many years of photos
(http://s16.postimage.org/d6cl326rl/cervia.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/d6cl326rl/)
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No need to roam the high seas for this one
(http://s16.postimage.org/xs0jmg341/1963.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xs0jmg341/)
I'll post an operational photo tomorrow - though LB might jump in with an answer first.
Dave
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Garnock?
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No sorry Boneash - but here is an operational image for you to look at.
(http://s16.postimage.org/6za5eskpd/1963_b.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/6za5eskpd/)
I just went to look at Garnock on line http://www.smha.org.uk/index.php?pr=Garnock&curPhoto=4&curAlbum=#album
some nice details for a modeller - especially photo 2
Regards Dave
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Ah yes the trees are just coming into blossom but alas they don't fruit here or around here anyway, and I do love Cherry's though - so it is the Cherrygarth.
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Over to you LB - I knew you'd eat that one up.
(http://s18.postimage.org/urgpi25yt/Cherrygarth_entering_a_lock_on_the_Manchester_Ship_Canal.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/urgpi25yt/)
Looks quite different from first picture doesn't it
Dave
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They had to bring this from down south, or so it seems, to do the job...
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Water Street
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Jacomina, salvaging the Landing Stage at Liverpool's Pier Head and Water St in the background.
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Very small mention here http://www.irishseashipping.com/news/2006/09_2006/092006.htm
(http://s14.postimage.org/xw53wiyy5/Jacomina_salvaging_landing_stage.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xw53wiyy5/)
Dave
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So how about this 1920s race winner?
(http://s8.postimage.org/otk9d81dt/Xj52852.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/otk9d81dt/)
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Are we in a hurray?
Maple Leaf V1
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The right races but not Maple Leaf V1.
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Rainbow 1V?
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Fraid not!
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I think it's Caleb Bragg in Baby Bootlegger?
He won the APBA Challenge - the Gold Cup in both 1924&25
http://www.britishpathe.com/video/30-miles-in-37-minutes
http://www.seqair.com/Other/Bootlegger/Bootlegger.html
http://www.classicwoodenboatplans.com/baby-bootlegger-30/
Dave
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And he does it again, I think you may need to get out more, Norseman! {-) {-) {-)
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You give good clues - I follow them ........ but you can take me for a few pints :}
Warships are what I really really struggle with
oh and modern ferries - I like much older stuff
I haven't got anything to post now - so the board is open to anyone
Dave
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ok guys try this one
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As it's really quiet I'll chance a guess - R.M.S. Leinster
I've not found a clear image yet to have a good look at.
Torpedoed and sunk by German submarine UB-123 on 10 October 1918 while bound for Holyhea. 501 souls
Dave
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no dave sorry
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SS‑Morea
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Guys..... >:-o....I cannot offer a name....but wonder at the volume of water being discharged from the stern
A 12"pipe?..... :o
Too much for steam steering gear cooling water????
Too much for sanitary discharge?????
Or was it 500 Poms having their community Friday afternoon weekly bath?????????????? & all pulled the plug @ once......................O0 {-) %%
:kiss:....Derek
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Probably us Poms just treating your Aussie beer with all the respect it deserves {-)
Dicky will be right; so my question is - what is that anchor arrangement called? I've been
trying to find out and search agaisnt it.
Dave ......... just back from the dentists - ouch!!!
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Anchor is cockbill I think
Used to call it that when attached to the cathead ready for letting go.
Ned
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Thanks Ned :-))
I just found it here http://www.scribd.com/doc/23643252/ANCHOR-TERMINOLOGY
the second term defined in a four page pdf.
Dave
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If you look down the page it calls it Catted as it is hung from the cathead.
Ned
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ok guys,,,,,,,,,,,, heres a clue,,,,,,,,,, she ran aground at the mouth of the red sea :D
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MV Glen Sannox
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Time to move on - the P&O vessel China 1896-1928
LB
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all yours budgie,,,, :-)) i thought it was an easy one,,,,, or theres a lack of interest in NAME THE SHIP
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No, I was interested but just couldn't find it - Wel done LB.
I was hung up on the anchor - I saw something similar on a build
- might have been the Insect Class, HMS Gnat in China. Anyway
the anchors were kept up to avoid snagging all the bodies floating
about if I remember rightly.
Dave
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A fine picture of this vessel - the finest that I've ever seen of her in fact; should be so, so easy.
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My auntie Beattie used to live in Lucania St in Garston
if I remember rightly lots of the streets had ship's names.
I think they are all demolished now.
Now I'm going to be stuck thinking what the those names were.
Dave
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looks very much like campania,,,, or her sister lucania
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My auntie Beattie used to live in Lucania St in Garston
if I remember rightly lots of the streets had ship's names.
I think they are all demolished now.
Now I'm going to be stuck thinking what the those names were.
Dave
Indeed that is so and some do still exist: http://www.ukstreetmap.info/map-liverpool-saxonia-road.html
So what are you saying?
LB
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looks very much like campania,,,, or her sister lucania
Indeed, indeed, there was very little exterior difference, mainly in the area of the aftermost lifeboat on the boat deck so, which one is it?
LB
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Sorry LB
I still think it's Lucania - that's why I mentioned my aunt once lived in Lucania street.
Dave
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campania
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It is the Lucania
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Hi Guys
Ok, try this then - a UK photo too.
(http://s15.postimage.org/4uo36wotj/oops.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/4uo36wotj/)
Dave
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Defiance?
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Such a sad sight that was, at least her mizzen mast still survives....
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Sorry - it's not Defiance
You might take a closer look at the full picture
Dave
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I think it's the Conway which ran aground in the Menai Straights. I think that's the bridge in the background. This is my first post on here and I look forward to more like this.
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Hi Cabman
Yes, I should think you would look forward to more posts like this ...............WINNER!!!
There's a few pics here http://www.beaumarislifeboat.com/history/H.M.S.Conway.htm
Whereabouts are you located Cabman?
Dave
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I can't believe they tried taking a ship that size through the Straits, it was bound to end in tears.
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This is worth a read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Conway_(school_ship)
Dave
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I'm from East Yorks near Hull. I don't know much about ships but do have an interest in them. Your clue gave it away because when I looked closer I could see the Menai Bridge. I'm sorry to say I Googled Menai Straights shipwreck and came up with the above link. Am just looking through older pictures now. It's a good fun competition. Well done.
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It seems I'm supposed to post the next one so here goes with an easy one.
(http://s16.postimage.org/8am9xcbv5/reg_s_wedding_scotland_075.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/8am9xcbv5/)
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I think it's Reg's wedding in Scotland :}
Dave
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"Lord of the Glens"
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Lord of the GLens
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(http://s13.postimage.org/9ypdecvb7/205670.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/9ypdecvb7/)
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FNS Jean Bart
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Well done! Your turn!
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Might difficult for those out of area but have a stab at anyway.
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Is it the Liverpool Pilot boat Skua ?
aye
john
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Obviously not that difficult.
LB
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http://www.seabreezes.co.im/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=618:liverpools-latest-pilot&catid=27:maritime-log&Itemid=48
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come on l b ,thought you would put that on the giants sailed away on .looked a lot like the lever barge that was supposed to be scrapped ,the weaverham .
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Lets try this one :-))
aye
john
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One of the Esso boats? The Esso Annapolis?
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sorry no
aye
john
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Is it a Conoco oil tanker matey ?
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Sorry matey but noooooooooo
aye john
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I'll take a punt at USS Chiwawa (AO-68) then Walter A. Sterling now Lee A. Tregurtha.
LB
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Close LB but no
aye
john
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Hello
She's not a fleet oiler, maybe the gazoline tanker T-AOG 78 Nodaway ?
Xtian
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your go Xtian %)
USS Nodaway /Tarcoola it is
aye
john
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Let's go for the next
(http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/05/02/120502110223282114.jpg) (http://www.casimages.com/img.php?i=120502110223282114.jpg)
Xtian
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Replica frigate Hermione under construction at Rochefort.
LB
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Hi LB - here's a clip of some ships carpentry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6qgHINWLmc&feature=related
Dave
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Loverly work.
LB
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Yep, she's the replica of L'Hermione, the ship that took Lafayette to America to help the county for Independence War
She will be at Boston for the 4th July 2015
Your turn LB
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And thereby depriving them of a more civilised existence however, all hell let loose a few seconds after this was taken when the tow parted and she went walkabout (floatabout?) on a flood tide.
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Norseman ,that video was a belter ,really enjoyed watching ,3 times ,,thankyou .
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I don't think anyone else is going to get it, so. It's the pollution control vessel "Sefton Supporter".
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http://www.irishseashipping.com/photofeatures/shipco/gulf/seftonsup221205/seftonsup221205.htm
I just looked for some more pix
Dave
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Here's a well known old workhorse.
(http://s10.postimage.org/ozkmum7xx/NTS2012009.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/ozkmum7xx/)
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Daniel Adamson I think
http://www.danieladamson.co.uk/galleries/2006/nsl4drydock270406/nsl4drydock270406.htm
Dave
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Indeed, Manchester Ship Canal Steam tug. Well preserved and still sailing.
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I don't think anyone else is going to get it, so. It's the pollution control vessel "Sefton Supporter".
It would have courtesy to have waited for me to confirm it.
LB
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Profound apologies :embarrassed:
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You're right LB ........ I'm sorry too.
I'll throw it open as I'm just off to Wetherspoons for a few pints
Regards Dave
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Come on guys. Don't let this slip. Someone must have a picture.
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OK try this:
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I'm afraid to speak now!
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How so?
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Now that I have had a "rocket" I'm wary!
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Should you have had a "rocket" from me then you would certainly have known about it, a mere blackboard duster giving you a new parting is nothing for you to quake over.
LB
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Is it Umbria or Etruria?
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Maybe it's the SS Brittanic circa 1890. Am I warm?
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(http://s18.postimage.org/5wxhrgxnp/Guion_Lines_SS_Alaska.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5wxhrgxnp/)
Looks like SS Alaska 1881?
If same then her local connections were her maiden voyage was from Liverpool and her owners were Guion Lines.
Dave
........ LB or anyone, can you remember the name of the small pub on the corner of Regent Rd and Porter St (or just possibly Vulcan St)
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I'll go out on a limb and say SS Arizona.
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Very little difference between the Arizona and Alaska, but is the Alaska coming out of New York in 1895.
Regarding pubs in the Regent Road area, no idea about such establishment's the only one that I know of is the Bramly Moore or is it the Lloyd's A1, see I'm completely ignorant of such places apart from the late much lamented Franks cafe.
LB
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I'm completely ignorant of such places.
The pub I asked about (a childhood friend lived there) is now a hole in the ground.
To take advantage of your ignorance of pubs LB here is another one. :D
A Pub / ex pub? (not too far away from the first)
To show my complete ignorance of the big grey boys - why the clock?
(http://s16.postimage.org/7cweya35t/Pub.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/7cweya35t/)
(http://s10.postimage.org/63c5ewkhh/Time.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/63c5ewkhh/)
Dave
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HMS Capetown? Carlisle Class cruiser. Whatever ship she is the clock is a "Range Clock" which had to do with gunnery though I've never figured out why!
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Well, the pic of the range clock perports to come from HMS Caradoc so I presume that the top pic is of the same vessel.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_range_clock
LB
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Beat me to it by seconds LB. It is the HMS Caradoc. Launched in 1916 and scrapped in 1946. It was probably best known for its involvement in The Nanjing Incident when a large flotilla of allied ships bombarded the city of Nanking in defence of foreign nationals within the city from Nationalistic ans communist forces. You are all extremely knowledgable. Well done.
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Regarding the clock face, prior to WWII the most accepted formation for battleships was the line of battle where ships lined up nose to tail and fire broadsides at the enemy. The British found that due to poor visibility in the North Sea together with funnel and gunfire smoke, it was rare for all the ships in the line to be able to see the enemy so large clock face like dials were fitted to the front of the foremast and to the rear of the stern mast. Once a ship had found the targets range it would then display the settings on the dials to the other ships in the line. Similar dials were fitted to the gun turret sides to show the angle of fire to the target. The were removed when radio communication and radio equipped spotter aircraft gave instant and accurate transfer of target information.
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Well done LB you have identified an old pub in Seaforth near the docks, and you got it so quickly too O0
The gunnery shown is bombarding the Bolshevik position on the Estonian coast of the Baltic sea.
Dave
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Well done LB you have identified an old pub in Seaforth near the docks, and you got it so quickly too O0
Dave
Did I, amazing, since there is absolutely no chance I would have known about it since I would not have frequented such an establishment in that area in any circumstances whatever. However, I may well have passed the said establishment on numerous occasions on my way to Waterloo (and beyond) where I was born in a private nursing home on this day numerous years ago.
I shall be away until the afternoon of tomarrow so if any one would like to pick up the baton so to speak then please do so.
LB
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Very Happy Birthday LB
If you lived in Waterloo then you certainly passed the pub - and like you I have never been in it either;
but before sat nav's were around knowing the pub names was probably the best way of getting good
directions to places. I know countless pub names in the N West and N Wales
Back to the important stuff ........ HAPPY BIRTHDAY LB :-))
Dave
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Seems that we've been ignoring "Name That Ship" for a while so here's one to start the ball rolling again.
(http://s18.postimage.org/xgondsu6d/PLA998.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/xgondsu6d/)
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Thanks TailUK .......I don't know the vessel but ask...could it be MV Sir Francis Drake?
The reason I ask is the clew offered on top of the nearby building....straight above the vessels name board
....and it looks like an image of Drakes face {-) .....Derek
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Thanks TailUK .......I don't know the vessel but ask...could it be MV Sir Francis Drake?
The reason I ask is the clew offered on top of the nearby building....straight above the vessels name board
....and it looks like an image of Drakes face {-) .....Derek
Not the Francis Drake I'm afraid, Derek, though I see what you mean. I photoshopped out the name next to the face as it was a bit of a give away to the location.
It's not an British boat and if you look at some of my recent posts you might get a clue about where this vessel is.
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Port of Amsterdam 3 maybe?
Dave
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She has a name but Port of Amsterdam 3 (PA3) is correct.
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PAS 3 `Triton`
Nice looking vessel :-))
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Well done big_bri. O0
I never would have got Triton
Dave
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Merry Christmas all........big_bri......being five months without a reply would you mind if I posted the next question please?....
It is as per the image in Name that Ship...... :o ....Derek
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Titanic?
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No cabman.......not the Titanic :embarrassed: ...........Derek
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HMAS Sydney and her final resting place after the battle with Kormoran?
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:-)) congratulations mikearace........may I ask how you knew the answer so quickly?..........Derek
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Just old fashioned detective work based on some experience. Well I recgonsied the numbers for what they were which didnt require any thought just some pre-existing seamanship/navigational knowledge, the photo seemed to be of a memorial book/commissioning book cover type not dissimalar to the standard naval offering and with the emblem it was obviously a naval ship, and as your from a land down under it had to be Australian, therefore something close to your heart and what bigger naval tragedy for an Australian was the loss of the Sydney. Well thats what I thought so a quick check on the words HMAS Sydney and the co-ordinates confirmed my guess.
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Thankyou......when I was at HMA Garden Island....the Senior Weapons Foreman....Bob Graham....my direct supervisor.....related to me the story about the loss of HMAS Sydney in 1941 in which his elder brother was a CPOEWS crew member.............[Chief Petty Officer Electronic Weapons Systems]............
Would you care to post an image?...........Derek
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I will at that later this UK evening when I get a few minutes to myself after the family have vacated to their own homes.
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Here you go
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An RN Q ship, HMS Barralong....
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Right first time.
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I must confess that I had a head start, I have a book called Smoke and Mirrors, telling of the exploits of Q ships in WW1.
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