Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Full Scale Ships => Topic started by: Bryan Young on February 23, 2012, 01:44:31 pm
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Spotted these 2 the other day...just thought they may be of some interest. I've got a few more closer up ones if anyone is interested. BY.
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Bananas or a pair of slipper?? {-)
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Nah
Clogs if their Dutch
Ned
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More photos please Bryan! :-))
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Brian,
There is a subsea 7 boat just up river from these two as well now and a carousel in the old swans yard. Don't know what it is being used for.
I pass them everyday going to work and forget to take my camera
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Sorry Martin, but the actual "close-ups" didn't work out quite as well as I'd hoped. What I can do is to take segments from the 3mb original and resize them. Should be OK. I was about 1/2 mile away from the ships and it was blowing a hooghly...must remember to take a tripod next time!.
Riggers....2 things. What is a "carousel" when related to ships?
Also, is this the boat you were referring to? Bryan.
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Nice and funy pics, thanks Brian :D
Xtian
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The carousel is either on the deck or below and is used to store and then spool off either flexible pipes or umbilicles that are used offshore. Basically a spooling drum that is on its side
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Sorry Gentlemen, I've accidentally deleted some photos, please can you repost them and I'll move back to the right place. :embarrassed:
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Sorry Gentlemen, I've accidentally deleted some photos, please can you repost them and I'll move back to the right place. :embarrassed:
Dear,dear, dear. You have been having fun, haven't you. Bryan
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Another rectification!....
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Managed to get some better ones this a.m. Still from about 1/2 a mile away though.
This selection is of necessity re-sized to fit the mayhem site. The originals are much larger and available if anyone is interested.
First batch (4).....
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Batch 2....
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Last 3.....
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Lovely pictures Brian. So crisp that you could almost make a model from them. :}
Thanks for posting them.
ken
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Lovely pictures Brian. So crisp that you could almost make a model from them. :}
Thanks for posting them.
ken
Ah, the wonders of modern lenses and computers! If I'd done this with my old Pentax SLR I'd have to wait an age to get the negs etc. back. Carting around a bag full of lenses. Or working in a darkroom (bathroom) and so on. The youngsters don't know how lucky they are! Thanks. Bryan.
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Spotted these 2 the other day...just thought they may be of some interest. I've got a few more closer up ones if anyone is interested. BY.
Ah, well spotted Bryan...
A little bird tells me there might be some similar (albeit smaller) at a Model Boat Show near you shortly ...
Do you know if the X bows will be there on Monday (23rd Feb 2012)? I might nip down and have a look myself.
Regards,
Kim
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Ah, well spotted Bryan...
A little bird tells me there might be some similar (albeit smaller) at a Model Boat Show near you shortly ...
Do you know if the X bows will be there on Monday (23rd Feb 2012)? I might nip down and have a look myself.
Regards,
Kim
Well, being the 23rd today, I can assure you that they are both still there,
However.....there's no way you can get close to them except with a long lens from the north bank of the river....they are moored on the south side. Most of that part of the river is now fenced off and inaccesible to the hoi-poloi like you and me. Local knowledge reigns supreme! Hradly worththe trip really.
Unless you'd like another cup of tea. Regards. Bryan.
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Did I see a certain north sea ferry in the background of one of those photos?
coincidently...there's a documentary on telly later in the year.
http://www.jarrowandhebburngazette.com/lifestyle/entertainment/tv_crew_at_yard_when_boat_comes_in_1_4273792
Ali
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Well, being the 23rd today, I can assure you that they are both still there,
However.....there's no way you can get close to them except with a long lens from the north bank of the river....they are moored on the south side. Most of that part of the river is now fenced off and inaccesible to the hoi-poloi like you and me. Local knowledge reigns supreme! Hradly worththe trip really.
Unless you'd like another cup of tea. Regards. Bryan.
Hi Bryan,
I will be on touch on Sunday via email if thats ok and confirm one way or other.
Re the date, my mistake ... all i need to know right now is when its light .. work ... dark, sleep so a little out of touch with whate date we are at.
Speak soon
Kim
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Did I see a certain north sea ferry in the background of one of those photos?
coincidently...there's a documentary on telly later in the year.
http://www.jarrowandhebburngazette.com/lifestyle/entertainment/tv_crew_at_yard_when_boat_comes_in_1_4273792
Ali
Not sure if it's a North Sea one or not, but it's a pretty large P&O thing. Bryan.
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saw this big ugly brute leaving the tyne on sunday,,, still not to sure what to make of these huge cruiseliners, still prefer the traditional style liner
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heres more of the eurodam leaving the tyne
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and the last few of eurodam
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Thats one massive ship :-) It looks like a moving tower block!
Dave:)
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At 86,000 tons she is just medium sized by today's standards!
Colin
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Colin.....I presume that the 86,000 tonnes is a "gross tonnage". As you well know, one gross tonne is only 100cubic feet of empty space. Which is what these behmoths are mainly composed of. The gross tonnage could be almost doubled by simple adding a few (literally) feet to the beam, height and length...plus a few feet on to the "girth" of the hull. A comparison of "displacement" tonnages would be more informative.
As an aside, I'd be fascinated to see a "gross tonnage" printed for our 2 new carriers, but as warships are only measured using "nett" tonnage, I doubt we'll ever know. Bryan.
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Just another thought......this pic appeared in the Sunday Mail "Live" supplement. I know many of you have a visceral hatred of the "Mail", but they do publish some good stuff.
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Colin.....I presume that the 86,000 tonnes is a "gross tonnage". As you well know, one gross tonne is only 100cubic feet of empty space. Which is what these behmoths are mainly composed of. The gross tonnage could be almost doubled by simple adding a few (literally) feet to the beam, height and length...plus a few feet on to the "girth" of the hull. A comparison of "displacement" tonnages would be more informative.
Yes Bryan, it was GRT as that is the accepted measurement of passenger ships. However, a comparison between Gross Tonnage and Displacement tonnage can be very informative sometimes.
The old Queen Mary was 81,000 tons Gross while QM2 is no less than 151,000 tons Gross, almost twice as much. However, when it comes to displacement tonnage, which reflects the actual weight of the vessel, the two ships are much the same and in fact the earlier ship is quoted as 80,000 tons as opposed to QM2’s 76,000 tons. (The big American Nimitz class aircraft carriers displace over 100,000 tons!). Queen Mary was 1019 feet long (311m) with a beam of 118 feet (36m). QM2 is 1,132 feet long (345m) with a beam of 135 feet (41m). But Queen Mary had a deeper draught of 39 feet (11.9m) compared with QM2’s 33 feet (10.1m) and a rather fuller underwater hull form. Basically what this means is that QM2 offers a huge amount of extra usable space on a similar displacement compared to Queen Mary which reflects shipbuilding progress, particularly in respect of machinery, over the last 70 years.
Interesting comparison isn't it?
Colin
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Colin. You have just (quite splendidly) proved my point.
I suppose it's in the nature of the PR brigade to use the biggest number (of tons) as an advertising ploy. But it's all false.
Comparing 2 different methods of measurement and treating them as the same is basically dishonest.
Even here, on this site, there are many modellers who really haven't a clue about the different ways of depicting the "tonnages" of ships.
The only real way of getting a handle on it all is to look at "Displacement"....be it loaded or not. Gross tonnage as a measure of size is totally misleading.
Interesting that you quote a displacement figure for a Nimitz class carrier. A huge number, I agree, but still well below tonnages carted around by some commercial ships. And also you must (as I'm sure you do) realise that warships don't increase their weight all that much between "ful" and "empty". Cheers. Bryan.
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Just another thought......this pic appeared in the Sunday Mail "Live" supplement. I know many of you have a visceral hatred of the "Mail", but they do publish some good stuff.
What's 'Lusty' doing in dry dock? Are they taking her apart piece by piece or what?
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Hey Brian, you posting on this thread too? http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=987081&page=24 (http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=987081&page=24)
Spent a facinating couple of hours looking through it 'bout ships on the Tyne :-))
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What's 'Lusty' doing in dry dock? Are they taking her apart piece by piece or what?
It's a fake made up to show the relative sizes of the two ships. I saw the image months ago.
Colin
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Ah well, fooled again. Must be an age thing. Sorry. BY.
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Did I see a certain north sea ferry in the background of one of those photos?
coincidently...there's a documentary on telly later in the year.
http://www.jarrowandhebburngazette.com/lifestyle/entertainment/tv_crew_at_yard_when_boat_comes_in_1_4273792
Ali
This answer took a long time coming! Watched a TV prog yesterday about a refit of "Pride of Bruge" (P&O) and right at the end, when the ship was being dragged out of the dock, there was a brief glimpse of one of the yellow bananas.
A reasonable programme actually. A bit simplified and presented by a couple of dumbos...but worth catching on "catch-up". BY.
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Taken during a "River Cruise" last weekend....sort of looked a bit different to the yellow ones posted earlier. As I was in the middle of the river at the time, I couldn't get a longer view.
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DM should realise HMS Ocean is the largest! %%
Served on them both :-))
See what debate that kicks off....
Rich
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Sorry. Lost me there. Who is "DM", and what has "Ocean" to do with the Tyne? Explain? BY.
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Bryan - I think DM stands for daily mail and I assume rich is comparing sizes with lusty and and Ocean.
which was not your point.
Geoff
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hi all, saw this cruiseliner in the tyne this week, not a pretty thing in my books, the days of the traditional liners have gone :((
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the last few of her, she is probably state of the art inside, but still dont have that wow factor to look at,,,,, brian_c
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A new video has appeared on Youtube of some of the goings on in Hebburn.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=A3rj6BK-dg8#!
Ali
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bit smokey on start up
john
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A big 9 cylinder engine that hasn't been run for two takes a while to warm up and hence the oil seals take a bit to fit properly. Looks pretty sweet though.
Ali