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Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 12:58:59 am

Title: The Great Mayhem Crash of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 12:58:59 am: The Great Forum Crash of 2012 - Postmortem !!!

Are we back?!?!?

Please tell me we're back and I've not finally entered the Twilight Zone!

The membership list seem somewhat truncated but at least we're back on-line.
We can now work on all other issues as we go.

In the meantime , if your name is not recognized - please just re-register.

.... well that was a rather stressful week!

Regards, Martin - off to consume vast amounts of liquor.....%%
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: tobyker on March 19, 2012, 01:28:50 am: Martin is a hero. Interestingly, the temporary site did not recognise Tobyker, but the repaired site knows me at once.
I'll say it again - MARTIN IS A HERO.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: AlisterL on March 19, 2012, 03:33:00 am: Bloody well done that man!
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on March 19, 2012, 03:38:30 am: Well done Martin you are a star :-)) :-)) :-))

Peter
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: colin on March 19, 2012, 05:51:14 am: Normal service resumed well done Martin

Colin
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Made it to 80 (25p Richer now) on March 19, 2012, 08:00:53 am: Well done Martin I will stand you another burger next time a MMM
Cheers
Bob
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Netleyned on March 19, 2012, 09:17:57 am: Nice to be back.
Thanks Martin for the hard work resurrecting the site O0 O0 O0
The 504's are still with us I see :(( :(( :((

Ned
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: malcolmfrary on March 19, 2012, 09:18:52 am: A huge WELL DONE!!! to all concerned.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 09:20:17 am: Quote from: Netleyned on March 19, 2012, 09:17:57 am

The 504's are still with us I see :(( :(( :((

Leave it! <*<
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Peewee on March 19, 2012, 09:28:19 am: Well done, daily fix had and the shakes have subsided :-)) :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: DickyD on March 19, 2012, 09:34:32 am: Wont let me use my user name as it is a reserved name. Whats that supposed to mean ? (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/angry2.gif)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: cuppa on March 19, 2012, 09:40:49 am: Well done Martin!
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: michael 1979 on March 19, 2012, 09:42:04 am: i had to re register, is there anyway to restore my # of posts as now I seem to be starting at the begining again?
Glad to be back in again though :-)) %%
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Meyer on March 19, 2012, 09:51:34 am: Thanks for all the hard work Martinm appreciate it
a bad weekend of Mayhem cold turkey {-) {-)

I had to re register aswell BTW
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Krishna on March 19, 2012, 09:52:48 am: Martin sir, its too sad to know that our forum down..its one of the ever loved place to be in.. and so happy to know back..hoooy... and i lost my old account once and is there any way to retrieve it..Please..
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: U-33 on March 19, 2012, 09:52:54 am: Well done to Martin and his merry band...nice to be back!

Rich
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Krishna on March 19, 2012, 09:54:37 am: :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)) :-)) :-)) :-)) %% %% %% %% WELL DONE MARTIN SIR......
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 19, 2012, 09:55:12 am: Had to, also re-register and start at scratch also, but doesn't really matter, main thing is Mayhem is back.

Congratulations to Martin and all involved well done.

We can all now get back to normality.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 09:59:41 am: Quote from: DickyD on March 19, 2012, 09:34:32 am
Wont let me use my user name as it is a reserved name. Whats that supposed to mean ? (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/angry2.gif)

Sorted!
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 19, 2012, 10:03:24 am: Quote from: Martin - admin. on March 19, 2012, 09:59:41 am
Sorted!

Aha, Now the cat is out of the bag, Dickie has some political pull O0 O0 O0
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: DickyD on March 19, 2012, 10:10:21 am: Quote from: raaartygunner on March 19, 2012, 10:03:24 am
Aha, Now the cat is out of the bag, Dickie has some political pull O0 O0 O0
I wish .(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/111017115313315746.gif)

Thanks Martin (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/tumb.gif)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Peter on March 19, 2012, 10:20:53 am: Thanks Martin, great to have you back, and I was still logged in! Well done that man :-)) :-))

I tried logging in to the temporary site, but was unsuccessful as my user name and email were categorised as spam?

A relief to find that in the end all is normal.

Peter
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: John W E on March 19, 2012, 10:28:03 am: Hi
Martin time to sit back and chill for a bit :-))
no doubt in a few days time when Martin’s brain has cooled off and once he is off the chill pills he will sortout the rest of the stuff
BIG THANK YOU MARTIN

aye
john
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Charlie on March 19, 2012, 10:59:00 am: Great work Martin, thanks for all your hard work to get everything back in order :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: HS93 (RIP) on March 19, 2012, 11:04:02 am: Am I the first to have A 504 Gateway message ?

Peter
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 11:04:16 am: Still picking up the pieces after the crash:

1. Thanks to everyone that emailed me encouragement & helped me through the diagnosis process.

2. Just PM (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1) me if you want your post count reinstated with how many posts you think you had - it's a very quick fix..... and I know how to do that!
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: pugwash on March 19, 2012, 11:21:46 am: Martin Well Done with all the hard work and congratulations on keeping us informed as to what was going on.
I had to re-register with my old name but glad to be back

Geoff
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 19, 2012, 11:25:15 am: Martin,

Not that we all may understand what has just happened, but was it a combination of 'issues' that 'crashed' the forum.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Bob K on March 19, 2012, 11:26:29 am: Yippee ! Back in touch with all my friends on Mayhem :-))
Where would we model boaters be without this incredibly valuable information resource?
OK, so this becomes my 'first' post, but no worries. Can't remember my previous count anyway.

Martin - you are a hero :} Almost 600 of us already, and rising, all eager to stand you a pint !
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 19, 2012, 11:41:13 am: Quote from: Martin - admin. on March 19, 2012, 11:04:16 am
Still picking up the pieces after the crash:

1. Thanks to everyone that emailed me encouragement & helped me through the diagnosis process.

2. Just PM (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1) me if you want your post count reinstated with how many posts you think you had - it's a very quick fix..... and I know how to do that!

Returning our post count would be nice, but much more useful would be returning our PMs. Is there any chance of getting these back? Mine had a lot of useful information and contacts... <:( <:(
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 19, 2012, 11:42:12 am: Thank you Thank you Thank you Martin

Coronation street on the TV isn't all it's cracked up to be. :} :}

This should encourage donations to the running of the site as we have all learnt what a real job and value it is.

Members are joining at around 90 per day so please be patient

Cheers to everyone

Ken
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Footski on March 19, 2012, 11:48:53 am: Yes, It is great to be back. well done Martin. A shame that some of us have lost all our previous stats but that is a small price to pay... %%
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Nige52 on March 19, 2012, 11:56:01 am: We're all in the same boat Krishna..... {-)
Apart from a lucky few, who appear to have kept their post count, we're all down to being newbies with a post count of 1...... <:(
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 12:00:29 pm: Still working on that too.... :-)

Quote from: dodgy geezer on March 19, 2012, 11:41:13 am

Returning our post count would be nice, but much more useful would be returning our PMs. Is there any chance of getting these back? Mine had a lot of useful information and contacts... <:( <:(
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Wetwater on March 19, 2012, 12:08:39 pm: Well done to Martin and his team. All my info, posts etc, just as they were. No signing in needed. Martin, buy yourself a new DAZZLE 8) shirt as a reward.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Richtea on March 19, 2012, 12:12:51 pm: Thank Martin were back.
Just spent all morning trying to sign in or register again.
Finally managed to do it under my own name instead of old user name.
So a BIG THANK YOU to Martin and ALL who helped get the forum back on line.
Regards
Richard
( Richtea) :-)) :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Footski on March 19, 2012, 12:48:51 pm: Been trying to update my profile with an Avatar photo of 190kbs but keep getting this error message "The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved."

Any one got any ideas or am I trying to run before all is sorted, if so, sorry Martin I will be patient.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Nige52 on March 19, 2012, 12:51:16 pm: Well....maybe 1001....Thanks Martin!! :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: DickyD on March 19, 2012, 12:58:29 pm: Quote from: Footski on March 19, 2012, 12:48:51 pm
Been trying to update my profile with an Avatar photo of 190kbs but keep getting this error message "The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved."

Any one got any ideas or am I trying to run before all is sorted, if so, sorry Martin I will be patient.
Had the same thing Barry, fortunately my avatar was in the table at the top of the profile.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Bob K on March 19, 2012, 01:07:53 pm: Quote from: Footski on March 19, 2012, 12:48:51 pm
Been trying to update my profile with an Avatar photo of 190kbs but keep getting this error message "The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved."

Any one got any ideas or am I trying to run before all is sorted, if so, sorry Martin I will be patient.

I had the same problem. I uploaded my picture onto Photobucket.com, then used the full http:// address for the picture instead.
It works :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Netleyned on March 19, 2012, 01:08:39 pm: If it's your old avatar Footski, it is in the list
I saw it when looking for mine.
There are quite a few to trawl through lol

Ned
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: rmaddock on March 19, 2012, 01:09:17 pm: I think you should all leave Martin alone for 24 hours at least! <*<
Poor chap. I imagine it's been a little stressful...... %%......it was for me!
Cold turkey all weekend!
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 01:17:37 pm: Still picking up the pieces after the crash: %%

1. Thanks to everyone that emailed me encouragement & helped me through the diagnosis process.

2. Just PM (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=pm;sa=send;u=1) me if you want your post count reinstated with how many posts you think you had - it's a very quick fix..... and I know how to do that!

3. You can also change your 'Forum Display name' by Profile / Account Related Settings / Name:
( This is the displayed name that people will see. ) - Any issues, I can do that for you too.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Footski on March 19, 2012, 01:20:17 pm: Quote from: Netleyned on March 19, 2012, 01:08:39 pm
If it's your old avatar Footski, it is in the list
I saw it when looking for mine.
There are quite a few to trawl through lol

Ned

Thousands of them. I will leave it a day or so and have another try or maybe as suggested by Bob, upload to an outside site first....Cheers Martin..
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Artistmike on March 19, 2012, 01:25:30 pm: Wow it's great to be back ! .... Well done the boss ! ...... Mind you, while I couldn't get onto the site I started this new hobby of building Model Boats.. great fun it is too, you chaps should try it....... %% .... :P

This is my first post it says too, I'm a forum virgin all over again ! :kiss: :embarrassed:
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: John W E on March 19, 2012, 01:26:59 pm: hi Footski ,try no 1424 for your avatar :-))
or was it 3184
aye
john
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: rmaddock on March 19, 2012, 01:31:48 pm: I notice that, having had to recreate my login, I no longer own my own Nobby build log. Could this cause me any problems with editing? Nothing springs to mind but I'm wondering.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 01:32:58 pm: Well I'm still trying to work through the problem but initial findings:

1. Don't always believe what the software writers say about their backup system.
2. A Hosting company's IT support dept. can actually be less than useless.
3. Some people will go out of their way to help you, if you sound pathetic enough.
4. An untested backup system is like a condom with a pin hole in it, you'll only find out when it's too late!
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 01:34:28 pm: Quote from: rmaddock on March 19, 2012, 01:31:48 pm
I notice that, having had to recreate my login, I no longer own my own Nobby build log. Could this cause me any problems with editing? Nothing springs to mind but I'm wondering.

No Nobby, it's still yours and we all know that,
... as below, I'm still trying to reconnect all the old accounts.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: brockya on March 19, 2012, 02:10:20 pm: HI
Its just great to be back with everyone, like the song said, you dont know what youve got till its gone !!
Richard
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: rmaddock on March 19, 2012, 02:38:49 pm: A good thing that's come out of it all is that I now know that I've only wasted 12 minutes of my life logged onto the forum....not the days it previously claimed! {-)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Footski on March 19, 2012, 03:14:33 pm: Quote from: bluebird on March 19, 2012, 01:26:59 pm
hi Footski ,try no 1424 for your avatar :-))
or was it 3184
aye
john

Hey John, Thanks very much..... suppose I owe you a drink now!!!!!

Not sure how you did it...
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: matphoto on March 19, 2012, 04:26:04 pm: Thank you Martin for all your hard work getting this back up and running. :-) :-)

Mat
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 19, 2012, 04:33:21 pm: Quote from: Martin - admin. on March 19, 2012, 01:34:28 pm

No Nobby, it's still yours and we all know that,
... as below, I'm still trying to reconnect all the old accounts.

Is there anything we can do to help you reconnect the old accounts?
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Terry on March 19, 2012, 04:43:44 pm: Good to see everything up and running. Thanks for your efforts Martin, and of course everybody else involved in the rescue.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 04:45:46 pm: Quote from: dodgy geezer on March 19, 2012, 04:33:21 pm
Is there anything we can do to help you reconnect the old accounts?

It's a bit beyond me, quite a bit!

I still speaking to a programer to see if we can recover the member list from a couple of weeks ago.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Circlip on March 19, 2012, 04:52:08 pm: Wow, what a struggle to get back on. Seems OK now despite only one posting.

Regards Ian.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: bj on March 19, 2012, 04:54:09 pm: Wow, I turned my back for a week and all hell is let loose!
Well done Mr D but I was suprised when Mayham let me re-register with my old log on and password.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Bowwave on March 19, 2012, 05:07:54 pm: Hi Martin , good to see you back on stream :-))
Bowwave
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Xtian29 on March 19, 2012, 05:56:38 pm: Hello

Nice to be here again, I miss you all, good job Martin :-))

Xtian
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: sleeper123 on March 19, 2012, 06:23:27 pm: Good to have the forum back. Well done Martin
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: bikerdude999 on March 19, 2012, 07:01:37 pm: Glad it's back, been so bored without the cr@p on here to read! Lol

Hope you manage to re-instate the old members list again martin, I too had alot of saved messages with info on future projects, and my name and post count would be handy....
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: CF-FZG on March 19, 2012, 07:20:10 pm: Quote from: Martin - admin. on March 19, 2012, 01:32:58 pm
Well I'm still trying to work through the problem but initial findings:

1. Don't always believe what the software writers say about their backup system.
2. A Hosting company's IT support dept. can actually be less than useless.

Martin, it sounds like Mayhem got off lightly, (apart from the members list).

Another forum I'm a member of got hit a couple of years ago, when they went to restore the backup, the first 'usable' thread-database backup was 10 months old, (ironically the members database was okay), they lost a lot of data and members because of it <:(

As the IT-Admin said afterwards - every week that so**ing backup gets a restore check <*<

Mark.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 07:22:53 pm: Avatar upload issue fixed.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: hama on March 19, 2012, 07:48:28 pm: Just want to say hello, I missed you all when you where gone and very well done Martin for fixing it all! :-))

All the best to you all!
Hama ( reborn as a virgin mayhemmer ) :-)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: offshore1987 on March 19, 2012, 07:52:01 pm: Hello again all i added my same user name ( as before ) :-))

Keep up the good work to sort the forum out and thanks for accepting me back on so fast ( its great to have this place back have been uber bored without it ) :embarrassed:

All the best

Daniel Irwin

one random thing was i couldnt use the same password as last time, just wanted to say incase that was random
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on March 19, 2012, 08:06:45 pm: Hi Martin

Many thanks for your hard work :-)) - if there was costs involved in the relaunch shout out and I'm sure we can chip in £?.

Love to get my posts and links back though......... O0

Gee lads - I've missed you all. I've been talking to the wife and mother in law - even done some plastering - oh it's been awful.

Dave ......... now just where is my avatar - feel so naked without it. {-)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: AlanP on March 19, 2012, 08:07:59 pm: Got my old username back (AlanP) but I have been demoted to shipmate with no posts or PMs <:( <:( <:(
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: wibplus on March 19, 2012, 08:11:59 pm: Magic our Martin. :-)) :-))
Great to be up and running again. Thanks for all the hard work to everyone who helped to "fix it". :} :} :}
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: TheLongBuild on March 19, 2012, 08:13:05 pm: Quote from: AlanP on March 19, 2012, 08:07:59 pm
Got my old username back (AlanP) but I have been demoted to shipmate with no posts or PMs <:( <:( <:(

Me to I'm Back..Post count not bothered about and luckily I get a copy of all my Pm's on my email so no problems..

One point Worth Mentioning if not already done so, If you have registered and have not received your registration email check you Spam folder, and not just the one on your PC as most providers, Virginmedia, BT, Tiscali all have off site filters which stop a lot of spam even getting to your PC but are kept on file for you to view when you log in externally.. I know this as this is where Both this registration went and the registration to the Temp Forum was When I remembered to look there..

Well Done Martin and team.. :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: tugmad on March 19, 2012, 08:16:11 pm: managed to rejoin with my old username and password but have no posts or stats, and been demoted to guest ;) ;)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: TheLongBuild on March 19, 2012, 08:21:25 pm: Oh and one last thing :}

When I Reresgistered I was told the Answer was incorrect <*<

Question ..What is the forum about ?.

My answer " Gawd knows, we have been asking that question for years, but I believe that it may have something to do with Model boats among the complete mayhem"

Was Not accetable !! :}
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 19, 2012, 08:23:12 pm: {-) {-)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: mikearace on March 19, 2012, 08:26:58 pm: Well done Martin
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: bobdoc on March 19, 2012, 08:35:22 pm: I am fully active again, including posts and stats ... I think

Well done to all who helped !

Bobdoc
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Arrow5 on March 19, 2012, 08:40:47 pm: Stout effort, please wear your loudest shirt :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: TheLongBuild on March 19, 2012, 08:43:20 pm: Quote from: arrow5 on March 19, 2012, 08:40:47 pm
Stout effort, please wear your loudest shirt :-))

Was it that bad!!!
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: mikearace on March 19, 2012, 08:44:31 pm: I have managed to reregister but I want to put a sales item up but it doesnt allow me to post a new topic in that thread. Is it because I am now reset to 0 messages so it automatically wont let me until I have 25 messages?
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: bbdave on March 19, 2012, 08:44:54 pm: Has all my info gone for good pics avatar etc?

Dave
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: TheLongBuild on March 19, 2012, 08:46:45 pm: In the Avatar section of the profile there are over 11000 avatars , you are in there somewhere..
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on March 19, 2012, 08:59:59 pm: Quote from: TheLongBuild on March 19, 2012, 08:46:45 pm
In the Avatar section of the profile there are over 11000 avatars , you are in there somewhere..

Don't I know it ............ mine was around the mid 9000's %%
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: mikearace on March 19, 2012, 09:00:59 pm: cant find mine and cant seem to upload a new one as it times out.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on March 19, 2012, 09:02:34 pm: Hey Martin

if it is any help in sorting it out - all my posts are showing mckenzig as the username?

Dave
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Andyn on March 19, 2012, 09:02:50 pm: I'm back again too.. Hello :-)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: mike_victoriabc on March 19, 2012, 09:07:08 pm: Thanks for working long hours to get this back up - signed in before it reached 1000 members - must have been some time ago!
Look forward to the always interesting discussions and model boat info.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: killick on March 19, 2012, 09:14:32 pm: I'm back but PM's are all gone....I just wanted to tell Frank W his Parcel arrived today. Woo_Hoo!! Thanks, Frank!!!

Martin, I owe you a Jug of "Lamb's"!
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: HawkEye on March 19, 2012, 10:00:38 pm: Hey - Great to be back ! ( even if I have lost six trillion posts ;D - well about 70 actually ), deep appreciation to Martin and helpers for their outstanding efforts, the loss of the forum was worse than loosing a comfy pair of slippers :}

HawkEye
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: tonyH on March 19, 2012, 10:27:31 pm: Great work Martin,

Thanks again for performing the Resurrection Shuffle for us all ;)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: richald on March 19, 2012, 11:11:54 pm: Martin,

Just to add my thanks to all the others -
the sanity almost went there ! %%

Richard
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Colin Bishop on March 19, 2012, 11:52:21 pm: My ID seems to have been restored in full.

Do we actually know what happened when the wheels came off and if it is likely to occur again?

Colin
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 20, 2012, 04:59:22 am: Interesting question Colin...

I was working on those annoying '504 timeout' errors and the web hosting company were being less than helpful. Basically
until I can say to them 'This is what the error is. It's clearly your fault. Fix it.' They are just washing there hands of the whole
affair, basically saying. ‘There’s nothing wrong OUR end!’ So I was pointed by SMF to a '24 step, self help guide’ and I was
making my way through that, deleting all the old thumbnail etc, 26, 000 of them! Etc, etc. Some of it makes perfect sense
and some of it you have to go on trust. So I’m working though the guide and doing what they say... but if something breaks,
all you get is, "well it shouldn't do that!" and then you're ~~screwed~~ stuffed!

Backups and spare tyres
I'm paranoid about backups and take them regularly and you ‘sleep easily’ in the fact you have them safely ‘in the bag’.
( Remember the old Model Boats forum?! From memory it couldn’t be restored for technical and/or commercial reasons.)
So how many of us have got a new car, (new to yourselves anyway!), put it on the driveway, jacked it up and test fitted
the spare wheel to make sure it's the right one, there's nothing wrong with it & it fits properly on each corner?!!! .... No?
Me neither. I check it once or twice a year, kick it to make sure it's got air in it and that's about it.

Now we come to "Forum Maintenance".
This is what SMF says it's got air in it and that's about managing a forum:

“Routine
Check all files against current versions - Check!
Find and repair any errors - Check!
Recount all forum totals and statistics - Check!
Empty out unimportant logs- Check!
Optimize all tables to improve performance. - Check!

Backup Database - This area allows you to save a copy of all the posts, settings, members, and other information in your
forum to a very large file. For larger forums, this backup may not be able to backup your entire database, in which case
you may want to backup your data by other means such as using ‘phpmyadmin’, or some other database backup utility.
Frequent backups are recommended, perhaps weekly, for safety and security.”

Now I have backups going back 6 years and several things should rang alarm bells;
1.   No Backup scheduling system,
2.   No real backup verification system.
3.   No restore facility.
4.   Unable to compress files due to size.
5.   Other SMF users experiences with SMF Backup / Restore.

Now not only should I have a backup, I know I should have verified backup – granted. When I run the backup, it run and says
‘Completed, no errors.’ – well that’s good enough, surely?! Well over the last week of blind panic, is turns out the inbuilt system
is about as good as a paper propeller! – It looks the part but in actual fact, won’t stand up to any real world test. Doing a lot of
searching on the matter, reoccurring words pop up, such as, ‘useless’, ‘terrible’, ‘rubbish’, ‘contemptible’, ‘ expletive’, ‘double expletive’,
‘Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?’

Now with the growth of Mayhem’s popularity, we had to move the website a couple of times and therefore we/be had to
move all the data (currently about 9Gig) to a completely new system. We’ve successfully done this using the forum backup
system and the help from a host keen to get your new business, so I know that the backup system does work… until your
forum gets to a certain, unspecified size, then things are different!

You’re only as good as your last backup
Having spoken and communicated with several 'Tefal heads' * over the last week and it turns out I could have done some
things better;
1.   Used myPHPadmin
2.   User Cpanel backup
3.   Created individual SQL table backups.
4.   Regularly test the backup on the Temp / test forum that I’ve had for years!
5.   Bang harder on the hosting company door demanding better support with the ‘504 errors’!

One particular Mayhemer has done extensive work for us and it looks like we may well be able to restore the full members list
to about 3 weeks ago but I’m holding off on that until I understand the full implications on all the new accounts we’ve created
over the last day or so. I must say it’s heartening to see how many Mayhemers have rejoined the forum so quickly!

Thanks again for all the encouraging emails and messages, it really did help in the very late & dark hours of the forum being
down and blind panic setting in. It really is an honour to provide a simple website and forum for you guys!

Just thought that I share this with you because this is OUR forum.
Your comments and observation welcomed.

… It’s 05:00 now… I reedit this into a form of English later today.... after many buckets of coffee.

* Your our younger Mayhemers - Tefal head, see: http://youtu.be/d3hpYgJCeEc & http://youtu.be/hU6Wi5voG9U
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: colin on March 20, 2012, 05:31:50 am: Morning
Made a posting yesterday in this section at 05,59 and still not apeared but shows up in my profile when looking at last posts any ideas ?

Regards
Colin
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: derekwarner on March 20, 2012, 06:29:07 am: Colin similar story here.....

Last night [AEST] when I re registered I revised my avatar image.......however it took greater than 24 hours to be accepted electronically

I am sure these are just teething glitches that will resolve themselves with the dedication & diligence of Martin & his helpers ..... :-)) O0

Derek
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Circlip on March 20, 2012, 09:40:16 am: Fergot to add the smiley re my comment about one posting. Although the forum isn't like it was regards Avatars and signatures, perhaps we should wait until Martin tells us that the "Boat" is running on an even keel before trying to sort our own bits out?

All this hassle to natter about toy boats, A big Thanks Martin for all your efforts.

Perhaps the manhole the Forum fell down was a victim of the latest metal thefts. {-)

Regards Ian
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Alan R on March 20, 2012, 11:00:45 am: Thank you Martin for restoring my daily fix. I have had the shakes & all sorts of withdrawal systems for the last few days. Even SWMBO has commented that I have not been sitting in front of the PC as much as usual.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 20, 2012, 11:25:13 am: Quote from: colin on March 20, 2012, 05:31:50 am
Morning
Made a posting yesterday in this section at 05,59 and still not apeared but shows up in my profile when looking at last posts any ideas ?

Regards
Colin

This one? - http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11159.msg359789#msg359789 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11159.msg359789#msg359789)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 20, 2012, 12:11:00 pm: In some sections on the forum I have 2002 posts (which I suspect was a figure put in by Martin, but looks about right). In others I have none, and am marked as 'Guest'. No great issues with this, but Martin might like to know.

By the way, might we get our PMs back at some stage, or are they unrecoverable?
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: lilgoth on March 20, 2012, 03:19:09 pm: ive just re-regestered ( previous lilgoth89 )
however when i look at my old posts im labled as " thebackways "
good to see the forum back
thanks for all your hard work over the last few days Martin :)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: tugs62 on March 20, 2012, 03:49:56 pm: ive re registered but it would nt let me us fletch so looks like got to start as a newbie again :((
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Bob K on March 20, 2012, 05:13:24 pm: I am getting much better now . . .

I should have waited a week, but in spite of serious ‘Mayhem withdrawal’ symptoms, ie shaky hands, I persevered and tried to brush paint the waterline on my model boat.

(http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n626/bobkiralfy/dazzle.jpg)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Netleyned on March 20, 2012, 05:19:49 pm: HMS Blackpool %%

Ned
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: boatmadman on March 20, 2012, 05:40:20 pm: Stirling effort, that man in the loud shirt. :-))

Oddly, all my info, posts etc appear to have come back as if nothing happened., but I didnt log on again straight away, maybe that has something to do with it?> Who knows!
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Corposant on March 20, 2012, 07:40:45 pm: Ian

Did they ever disappear? If you didn't have to re-register then you were one of the lucky ones whose data weren't lost. This post is an experiment for me because yesterday evening I tried twice and the system ignored me. <:( Since then Martin has entered a number of posts in my profile so, if this is displayed, that may be the answer. (If I request "Show previous posts of ths person", none are found.)

Mike
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Corposant on March 20, 2012, 07:44:02 pm: Bingo! :-)

Thanks Martin - and for all you've done in the last week (and are still doing!).

Mike
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on March 20, 2012, 07:54:24 pm: Quote from: Martin - admin. on March 20, 2012, 04:59:22 am

I’m holding off on that until I understand the full implications on all the new accounts we’ve created

Hi Martin

I think it is going to be very hard for you to marry my lost 1050 posts with any new posts I make. My old posts are showing as
mckenrig - so how you could ever begin to sort that type of thing across the many mixed up members is beyond me; especially
as posting activity continues. It may be we just have to accept it before you go insane..... erm - more insane O0

Dave
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 20, 2012, 08:38:45 pm: Just a thought

When you register and it won't accept you original name, try putting the number 2 next to it.

That way, we should know who was posting and it might make it easier to tie up the links.

cheers

Tug---Kenny2
Now 2 less

:}
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Stavros on March 20, 2012, 08:45:16 pm: Well it's me or is it Welsh Wizard time will tell lol

Martin YOU desereve a MEDAL

Couldnt log on as Welsh Wizard so decided to reseruct me old Nom de plume

Dave
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 20, 2012, 08:48:14 pm: Try my idea Dave as a second member.

We can always delete which one you don't like.

Ken
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: cbr900 on March 20, 2012, 09:10:05 pm: Thanks Martin,

It all seems to be working again, you and the crew have done well............

Roy
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Bob K on March 20, 2012, 09:31:43 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on March 20, 2012, 08:38:45 pm
When you register and it won't accept you original name, try putting the number 2 next to it.
That way, we should know who was posting and it might make it easier to tie up the links.
cheers
Tug---Kenny2

Not a big deal, but when I tried to re-register with my original name of "BobK" it would not work, but registering with the 'new' name of "Bob K" (added space chr) it allowed me in. Now "BobK" is only a guest, I can't log in as that because the email address is already in use by "Bob K".
Not a big deal. Colleagues know who I am. I can live with that, you guys have enough to do O0
Title: New Forum feedback for Martin & Co
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 20, 2012, 09:58:31 pm: 1. Have to had to reactivate notification of replies, previous notifications not working no doubt because I had to re-register, not really a problem.

2. Notification message is different and now receiving multiple, multiple, notifications.

Copies below, first is message from 'ye olde' forum, second is current. Maybe the missing line highlighted in bold type in message 1 about further notifications is producing multiple email notices.

1.A reply has been posted to a topic you are watching by nhp651.

View the reply at: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=34379.new;topicseen#new

Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=notify;topic=34379.0

More replies may be posted, but you won't receive any more notifications until you read the topic.

Regards,
The Model Boat Mayhem - Forum Team.

2.A reply has been posted to a topic you are watching by cbr900.

View the reply at: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11159.new;topicseen#new

Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=notify;topic=11159.0

Regards,
The Model Boat Mayhem - Forum Team.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 20, 2012, 10:03:50 pm: Not too mention, that those that use an Avatar :-)) :-)) are instantly recognisable O0 O0 even if your 'name' has changed slightly {-) {-)
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Corposant on March 20, 2012, 10:13:44 pm: It's tempting to wonder if those who couldn't use their original username didn't need to re-register.

(BobK no longer appears in the members list BTW)

Mike
Title: Re: New Forum feedback for Martin & Co
Post by: CF-FZG on March 20, 2012, 10:36:23 pm: Raaaaaaarty,

Isn't that how it's supposed to work {:-{

I usually get 1 notification per thread, so if I'm 'watching' 10 active threads, after 1 hour away I can have 10 notifications, (although if I don't read them there's still only 10 emails)

In your example you're showing 2 seperate threads, ergo you should get 2 notification emails :-))

AAAAHHHHHH!!! just re-read your post, and I think I see what your problem is,

If you go to your 'Profile', then select 'Notifications and Email' (under 'Modify Profile'), you'll see a line near the top on the right that says - 'Receive reply notification only for the first unread reply.' make sure the box is ticked, (I think by default they're not)

Mark.
Title: Re: New Forum feedback for Martin & Co
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 20, 2012, 10:55:24 pm: Thanks Mark.
Does that work for you raaartygunner ?
Title: Re: New Forum feedback for Martin & Co
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 20, 2012, 10:57:23 pm: Mark,

Thank you :-)) :-)) have made the changes as suggested.

See how I go, thanks again, my in-box was getting a little bit crowded O0 O0 :-)) :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 20, 2012, 10:59:07 pm: Quote from: raaartygunner on March 20, 2012, 10:03:50 pm
Not too mention, that those that use an Avatar :-)) :-)) are instantly recognisable O0 O0 even if your 'name' has changed slightly {-) {-)

What was you old avatar, I'll reinstate it.. :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: mickyrubble on March 20, 2012, 11:01:46 pm: Hi,
could one of the mods reinstate my old account login sez i don't exist,and only way to get on was to register.
{:-{ :(( {:-{ :(( {:-{ :(( {:-{ :((
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: ian-mccaffrey on March 20, 2012, 11:30:46 pm: Quote from: mickyrubble on March 20, 2012, 11:01:46 pm
Hi,
could one of the mods reinstate my old account login sez i don't exist,and only way to get on was to register.
{:-{ :(( {:-{ :(( {:-{ :(( {:-{ :((

mine is exactly the same .... im boyracer who was building the mmbs asd tug but it now says i dont exist when i try to log in l.. thats why i made this account
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Corposant on March 20, 2012, 11:40:08 pm: Micky & Ian

Where have you been for the last week? %%

Poor Martin has been tearing his hair out trying to save all the data from the forum. He's been successful with the posted data but most of the login list has been lost so most of us have had to re-register - you are not alone! O0 There is a slight possibility that it might be retrieved (very slight!).

You'll just have to be patient!

Mike
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: ian-mccaffrey on March 20, 2012, 11:49:35 pm: im gutted i cant sign in as my self ... but by christ am i glad to be able to sign in at all.....nice to be back to normality !!!! and back on here !!
Title: Re: New Forum feedback for Martin & Co
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 20, 2012, 11:58:19 pm: Mark & Martin,

Thank you for the fix, all now working fine. O0 O0 O0

Thanks again. :-)) :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 21, 2012, 12:02:03 am: Quote from: Martin - admin. on March 20, 2012, 10:59:07 pm
What was you old avatar, I'll reinstate it.. :-))

Martin,

Not a problem ,you have enough on your plate, will put one up, later.
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 21, 2012, 12:18:56 am: Micky & Ian,

As Corposant mentioned,You are not alone, have you tried to re-register using your original username etc.????

Go to the 'Forum News updates' thread, lot of applicable info there, plus, Tug Kenny tells how to login with your username number mark 2 which my help. O0 O0
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: murphy1570 on March 21, 2012, 12:27:36 am: Hello folks
Great to see the site up and running again thanks to all who have put their time and indeed knowledge in to getting it up and going again, I have managed to re-register again as advised good to be part of the Mayhem community again, one wee question when I logged in it said "time logged in 9mins" and there were no replies to my messages or posts etc, I presume this stuff was all lost when the site went down, no matter great to have it up and running again and thanks again to those with the knowledge and skill to get the site going again.
All the best, John.
Title: I'm back
Post by: Capt Podge on March 21, 2012, 01:16:46 am: Like so many others, I've had to re-register and can't retrieve my previous postings etc... >>:-(

However, it's great to be back up and running. O0

I'm sure Martin & co will eventually be able to retrieve all previously entered information once things settle down again. :-))

Until then, I'll settle for being a deckhand again :embarrassed:

Regards,

Ray.
Title: Re: New Forum feedback for Martin & Co
Post by: CGAux26 on March 21, 2012, 02:20:04 am: I finally got reregistered after several tries over several days. It would be helpful if the rules for passwords were spelled out, instead of having to guess how long it needs to be, and what letters are permissible or not, and any other rules. And why is all the security necessary? What needs to be so secret about a bunch of old farts talking about model boats?
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: tassie48 on March 21, 2012, 07:00:03 am: glad we are back just sad i am only a one poster haha still we can all get back to model building and viewing again tassie48
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: tassie48 on March 21, 2012, 07:01:28 am: have just reregistred agian and only 2 posts up haha glad to be back tassie48
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Artistmike on March 21, 2012, 07:33:51 am: One thing that's strange is that I can understand my profile being lost together with my posts.... but for some strange reason since I've re-registered my name again it has ascribed a post to me that I never made {:-{ http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=30278.msg302945#msg302945 That may say more about the type of error that crept into the forum, apparently the database thinks I'm partially Vince ! :embarrassed: ........................
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: rsm on March 21, 2012, 09:37:56 am: That's 2 posts more than me tassie. I'll have to get posting some more builds, I don't want to be a 'shipmate' again. <:(
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 21, 2012, 10:55:45 am: Welcome back Captain :-))
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: ian-mccaffrey on March 21, 2012, 11:43:08 am: Quote from: Martin - admin. on July 28, 2008, 02:40:50 pm
Any better now?

look at the dates that we are commenting .... i think we are stuck in 2008
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: hollowhornbear on March 21, 2012, 11:44:27 am: well done to the man in the loud shirt, :-)) :-))
hopefully after re registering I have my avatar back just need to get my posts back to the 250+ i had, how long should that take %%
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: wullie/mk2 on March 21, 2012, 12:36:57 pm: After the meltdown, I had to re-register, and have now noticed that my post count is only 1,previously before the meltdown it was over 100, does this mean that i,ll have to have 25 posts before i can sell an item, {:-{
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: yorkiej on March 21, 2012, 12:49:36 pm: Quote from: wullie/mk2 on March 21, 2012, 12:36:57 pm
After the meltdown, I had to re-register, and have now noticed that my post count is only 1,previously before the meltdown it was over 100, does this mean that i,ll have to have 25 posts before i can sell an item, {:-{
A good question. I'm in the same boat!!!!! as are lots of others. I know Martin is trying to sort out the posts problem but I look forward to a response to this specific question.
Title: Hello (again)
Post by: andrewh on March 21, 2012, 12:51:47 pm: Greetings to all Mayhemmers, and many thanks to Martin and the assiduous IT team

I feel reborn :}

Good to be back in action - time for a new avatar anyhow :}

andrew
Title: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 21, 2012, 01:15:02 pm: Fixed! :-)
Title: Re: Forum News, Updates, Errors, etc.....
Post by: Dave13 on March 21, 2012, 01:25:31 pm: Yay I'm back on here!!!! :-) :-)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on March 21, 2012, 01:35:19 pm: I actually got some modelling done over the weekend!

Katja and Phantom now have propshafts and rudders fitted

who else got more done while sulking over the absence of the drug that is MBM?
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Dave13 on March 21, 2012, 02:38:06 pm: I did do quite a lot of work on my dads fishing boat O0
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: colin-d on March 21, 2012, 02:46:21 pm: seems i am back agian aswell... and all my old NIC... same as this one... is a guest...
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Jonty on March 21, 2012, 03:14:10 pm: No problems for me, but I'm a little worried to see that my number of posts seems fixed on 666.
Title: Re: I'm back
Post by: Capt Podge on March 21, 2012, 04:28:25 pm: Cheers Kenny - this Forum keeps me well away from the "goggle box" %%
Title: Re: New Forum feedback for Martin & Co
Post by: davidm1945 on March 21, 2012, 04:39:12 pm: Hi Martin,
Any chance I can get my posts history back - not vital but would be nice!
Dave.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: baloo on March 21, 2012, 04:51:34 pm: Great to see everybody is happy with getting back to the site,is there away we can think about donations to the site,i cant see it being a problem with the amount of people using the site.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 21, 2012, 05:11:56 pm: Yes it's on the front page

www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk

Click on Donations about half way down the page
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Bryan Young on March 21, 2012, 06:23:56 pm: Just checked that the "Nautical, strange but true" thread was still there.....I'd hate to lose it. Being the 30th anniversary of the Falklands conflict I zeroed in on that, and was surprised at many of the subsequent comments by "mayhemmers" were in a way very apposite to the situation we, as a country, now find ourselves in. Lack of resources. Money, in other words. But our "politicians" still seem to find the defence of the country subservient to squandering £Billions on welfare. I despair.....again. BY.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: unbuiltnautilus on March 21, 2012, 06:29:31 pm: They let me back, whooo hoo!
Great job Martin, I was in danger of becoming a normal member of society again, but...saved the day, back to the Mayhem! :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: slug on March 21, 2012, 06:38:07 pm: well done all to get meyhem back lost without you i have lost all my details had to re register does that mean i start at the bottom again once again meyhem is the best glad you are all back slug
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: regiment on March 21, 2012, 07:04:16 pm: hi martin all is nearly well with mayhem so now you can enjoy your self at alton towers and cause MAYHEM there for a day R <*<
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Shipmate60 on March 21, 2012, 07:33:19 pm: unbuiltnautilus,
"I was in danger of becoming a normal member of society again" Its a Model Boat Forum Al, not analysis!!

Bob
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on March 21, 2012, 08:57:30 pm: Quote from: shipmate60 on March 21, 2012, 07:33:19 pm
Its a Model Boat Forum Al, not analysis!!

It's so much better than analysis Bob - nobody here tells us we have to get better. %%

Dave
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: grub on March 21, 2012, 09:07:12 pm: Thanks Martin, I had no idea how much I needed to look in every night until I couldn't. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Perkasaman2 on March 21, 2012, 09:30:29 pm: Well done Martin . :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 21, 2012, 09:57:57 pm: Quote from: Bryan Young on March 21, 2012, 06:23:56 pm
... Being the 30th anniversary of the Falklands conflict I zeroed in on that, and was surprised at many of the subsequent comments by "mayhemmers" were in a way very apposite to the situation we, as a country, now find ourselves in. Lack of resources. Money, in other words. But our "politicians" still seem to find the defence of the country subservient to squandering £Billions on welfare. I despair.....again. BY.

There is a lot of money going in. We are the third biggest power in the world by military expenditure. Only the US and China are above us.

On the other hand, France and Russia, just below us, seem to be getting better value for their cash.

Something gives me the feeling that there is quite a gap between the money we put in, and the military value that we get out...
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Colin Bishop on March 21, 2012, 10:26:42 pm: From he reports I have seen, Russia doesn't seem to be doing too well at all. A lot of their gear doesn't appear to work or goes wrong and their arms exports on the naval side have a very poor reputation.

Colin
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 21, 2012, 10:46:44 pm: I must admit that I haven't been tracking military export quality much - my suggestion was really based on the idea that they actually HAD a navy, whereas ours seems to be vanishing...
Title: Re: New Forum feedback for Martin & Co
Post by: matphoto on March 21, 2012, 11:05:42 pm: Hi Martin

Ditto as davidm1945

Would be nice to have my post history back but not essential.

Mat
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Bryan Young on March 21, 2012, 11:07:15 pm: Dodgy......and that was my point in a nutshell.
Cash allocation within the UK from Central Gov't always seems to be skewed to "the visible" and not towards the really more important "invisible" bits. Bloody ignorant politicos again. BY.
Title: Re: New Forum feedback for Martin & Co
Post by: DavieTait on March 21, 2012, 11:11:42 pm: hmmm MARTIN I posted under a comment in this thread , came up with "152 new replies" warning and went here , might still be some problems
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 21, 2012, 11:16:46 pm: That might just be me merging topics to gather them together in one place %%
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: DavieTait on March 21, 2012, 11:23:36 pm: That could explain it lol %% %% %% %%
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Abuelo3 on March 21, 2012, 11:49:41 pm: HEY HEY MARTIN
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I HAVE A BOX OF CUBAN CIGARRS OR A BOTTLE OF CUBAN RUM, for You, please tell me what you like more
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 22, 2012, 12:02:04 am: Hi Godo,

Always good to hear from you. I'll be round for dinner on Sunday! O0
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 22, 2012, 10:27:11 am: Existing members who re- register will be re-instated so

Don't panic Mr Mannering

:} :}
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on March 22, 2012, 10:35:50 am: (http://www.mitchellcharlesworth.co.uk/media/47680/don%27t%20panic%20(152x200).jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug Fanatic on March 22, 2012, 10:47:58 am: Martin

I can only guess how much work/ time you must spend making this by far the best UK model boat forum. As everybody else has said you deserve an enormous thank you not just from those who post but also from those who lurk in the background.

A QUESTION

Has anybody else noticed that getting access to the forum has now become unreliable? I would say that about a third of the time when I try to open the forum in my browser nothing happens & if I try again immediately still nothing. If I leave it 5 minutes then it is likely that it will open instantly. The same ratio & results apply when I click on links - say to open a thread - within the forum. All other sites in my favorites work fine - including when this link has failed to connect.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 22, 2012, 10:52:14 am: We are a trifle busy, so hang in there.

Our plight has been noted all over the world and as a consequence we are experiencing a large amount of registrations. Everyone is welcome so, to quote another TV program.

Come on down :-))

ken
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: CJ on March 22, 2012, 12:46:29 pm: Just a quickie as I am sure you guys are busy getting this fantastic forum back on track again - but if we had to re-register will our posts/mails/pics etc be re-aligned ??

All the best

CJ
Title: New Name...
Post by: Lash151 on March 22, 2012, 02:04:37 pm: Hi... My old name and password wouldn't work on the site... so I have re registered! (Was Lash151, now Lee Ash)
So... hello again!
Lee
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 22, 2012, 02:18:05 pm: I wonder if we need a FAQ?

It could cover the timeline of what happened, the current state of the forum, what is expected to be done over the next few weeks/months and what forum members can best do to maintain the smooth running of the board without disturbing Martin more than necessary...
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 22, 2012, 02:41:18 pm: Quote from: dodgy geezer on March 22, 2012, 02:18:05 pm
I wonder if we need a FAQ?

It could cover the timeline of what happened, the current state of the forum, what is expected to be done over the next few weeks/months and what forum members can best do to maintain the smooth running of the board without disturbing Martin more than necessary...

Good idea.

You start it and I'll help full in the details!

It all started about March 13, 2012, 22:45 ..... {:-{
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: wullie/mk2 on March 22, 2012, 03:55:03 pm: Quote from: wullie/mk2 on March 21, 2012, 12:36:57 pm
After the meltdown, I had to re-register, and have now noticed that my post count is only 1,previously before the meltdown it was over 100, does this mean that i,ll have to have 25 posts before i can sell an item, {:-{
Whom do I have to thank for giving me this Avatar????....Its not me, ...I,m better looking,even if its only me that thinks so, {-)
Title: Re: Forum News, Updates, Errors, etc.....
Post by: Jimmy James on March 22, 2012, 04:57:44 pm: WOOOPEE!!! and I didn't have to re Reg.
Ok now whats the catch ??????
Jimmy
Title: Re: Forum News, Updates, Errors, etc.....
Post by: rmaddock on March 22, 2012, 05:03:40 pm: Quote from: Jimmy James on March 22, 2012, 04:57:44 pm
Ok now whats the catch ??????

Well, we actually all slipped sideways into an alternative universe where Mayhem never crashed. It shouldn't cause problems but if you get a lot of headaches.....start to worry. {-)

Thanks Martin. You're a star. :-))
Title: weird... my post disappeared...
Post by: Lash151 on March 22, 2012, 07:45:32 pm: Hi... I posted yesterday to say I had to re-register, so now I am Lee Ash instead of Lash151... but the post disappeared! There are strange goings on here ...without a doubt!! :-)
Title: Re: weird... my post disappeared...
Post by: Captain Povey on March 22, 2012, 08:00:04 pm: Hi There. Well I couldnt log on after the crash either so reregistered to find all my post have gone too. <:(
Title: Re: weird... my post disappeared...
Post by: Captain Flack on March 22, 2012, 08:17:00 pm: Hi
I was the same. Apparently all will be well and restored given enough time. At least that's what I was told :-) :-) :-)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 22, 2012, 09:10:32 pm: Quote from: wullie/mk2 on March 22, 2012, 03:55:03 pm
Whom do I have to thank for giving me this Avatar????....Its not me, ...I,m better looking,even if its only me that thinks so, {-)

Now that you're a full member :} can you try altering your Avatar from your end.

We are going at touchy feely speed at the moment. O0

ken
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: emlra on March 22, 2012, 09:29:27 pm: :-))

Well done team........maybe the 'shakes'will go now!

I always thought that 'Cold Turkey' was something to do with Boxing Day but now I know betterer.

Rex
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: billa65t on March 22, 2012, 09:41:36 pm: Many thanks to the team for sorting things out and getting back online.
Its been lonely without you
Regards
Bill %% :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Howard on March 22, 2012, 10:21:44 pm: HI tHANK GOD ITS BACK AND CAN PUT MY KNITTING AWAY AGAIN. life was so bad going to bed early, doc says i should be back to normal soon, and will be able to be weaned off the tablets soonThank you and all the helpers Martin. do ope after a few weeks all my old posts and names return but for now just so so pleased the family of modllers are back I think I speak for all when I said it was souly missed.
Regards Howard.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 22, 2012, 10:32:28 pm: Welcome back Howard.

We didn't half miss you. Bear with us while we process 900 members

:}

ken
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: BailingBen on March 22, 2012, 10:39:16 pm: it was terrible i was forced........forced........forced to have a social life and go out with "mates!" :(( :(( :(( :(( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( <:(

THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME

KK
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on March 23, 2012, 12:36:36 am: Quote from: subnormalkid on March 22, 2012, 10:39:16 pm
KK

A Ha - methinks it's Krafty Kid in disguse :o?

Dave
Title: Re: weird... my post disappeared...
Post by: irishcarguy on March 23, 2012, 03:19:22 am: Hi all ,my posts have gone to never never land too & I have been demoted to shipmate, now the ship cant sail without its Captain, LOL. I am sure Martin will come to the rescue, Mick B.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: michael 1979 on March 23, 2012, 07:37:45 am: Hi Martin

I'm having trouble loading up my own Avatar from my files. What can I do?

Regards
Michael
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: vnkiwi on March 23, 2012, 07:54:38 am: everythings all to hell I can't change my password, or anything. No posts etc etc
No rush, bottom end of the que is cool
vnkiwi
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 23, 2012, 10:00:56 am: Quote from: michael 1979 on March 23, 2012, 07:37:45 am
Hi Martin

I'm having trouble loading up my own Avatar from my files. What can I do?

Regards
Michael

Email me your avatar - how many posts did you have?

Martin ?
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 23, 2012, 10:02:53 am: Quote from: vnkiwi on March 23, 2012, 07:54:38 am
everythings all to hell I can't change my password, or anything. No posts etc etc
No rush, bottom end of the que is cool
vnkiwi

(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/Themes/babylon/images/english_british/profile.gif) - 'Account Related Settings'
Title: Re: weird... my post disappeared...
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 23, 2012, 10:17:25 am: Sorry chaps - see Here: http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36102.msg359784#msg359784 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36102.msg359784#msg359784)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: vnkiwi on March 23, 2012, 10:19:52 am: Sorry Martin,
don't worry about it at the moment ok. fix everything else first, as I can still get onto mayhem, so not cold turkey
Quote from: vnkiwi on Today at 07:54:38 AM
everythings all to hell I can't change my password, or anything. No posts etc etc
No rush, bottom end of the que is cool
vnkiwi
Martins reply
- 'Account Related Settings'

tried all that, can't remember my password, its been a 'rubbish' week, must be getting old

by the way, well done on the site recreation, your the man

cheers
HarryD (vnkiwi)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on March 23, 2012, 01:00:10 pm: I think this sums up our feelings about Martin and all the others who helped to get the site back up and running

(http://cdn.mdjunction.com/components/com_joomlaboard/uploaded/images/Awesome_mc_HT_Smiley_16ffaf3dacb83b3cdcfca7e17df0f735-8aea7cedaa4d32f7d223c23b04aeaaf8.gif)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Sparky on March 23, 2012, 04:12:01 pm: Absolutely !!

Vic.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: vnkiwi on March 23, 2012, 04:46:01 pm: my sentiments, exactly. Well done Martin and Co
vnkiwi
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Big Ada on March 23, 2012, 05:04:26 pm: Phew,
Just scrambled back on board with Martins help.

len
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Thelegos on March 23, 2012, 06:01:05 pm: Sorry but I must have missed something, I had to re register with a new ID and loose my history to get back on the site but many people seem to have their old ID and activity records etc.

Can something be done to retrieve the situation or is this just tough luck {:-{

roger
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: michael 1979 on March 23, 2012, 07:37:40 pm: Hi Martin

Have sent PM with my avatar
Hopw you can reinstate me. By The way Awsome work on getting site back up... I was going crazy here at home :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: irishcarguy on March 23, 2012, 08:33:09 pm: I think Martin crashed it on purpose so we all buy him free beer for the rest of his life, LOL. Joking aside I really missed the whole bunch of you, even Dave from ACTion, yes Neil & Norseman you guys too. Thank you Martin you are one SUPER guy. Now how about us all dropping a few nickels in the bank to help Martin with the cost of fixing everything, I am sure it is worth a bob or two to have our forum back again, Hi to you all it really is super to be able to talk to you all again, Mick B.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: derekwarner on March 23, 2012, 09:10:03 pm: & Mick says........ "now how about us all dropping a few nickels in the bank to help Martin" :-)) ...last week I did just that Mick %) .....& even with the melt down crisis I still recieved a note of thanks......

If every member donated a few quid++++ or what they could afford would certailnly help ......Derek O0
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: BailingBen on March 23, 2012, 09:31:27 pm: also if you want to donate stuff to me i need it 6 boats to build no money income for 10 months <:( <:( <:( <:( <:( :embarrassed: :embarrassed:
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 23, 2012, 09:34:25 pm: All contributions, no mater how small, can be donated here.

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/

Scroll down the main page to the donations button

Thanks everyone

Ken
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: irishcarguy on March 23, 2012, 10:04:38 pm: KK , why no income & what boats are you wreck/ oops sorry building now & how is your big saling event coming along, Mick B.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: BailingBen on March 23, 2012, 10:36:54 pm: event is pretty much sorted the reason for no income is because i borrowed money from "mum" to pay to finish some subs of and ive just brought another sub and a mtb

will likely sell some of my boats in near future to fund my new projects
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: irishcarguy on March 24, 2012, 04:47:07 am: So KK how much do you owe 'Mum' you bad boy, don't you know you must not spend on toys until you have a whole pile of loot saved up to buy them first. Mick B.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: BailingBen on March 24, 2012, 08:28:15 am: lets just say it just reached tripplle digits £££ not above £101 though
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: slug on March 24, 2012, 11:07:30 am: i am glad we are back on meyhem but i dont come up anymore no profile no posts have re-registered still no profile have filled it all in just comes up no profile all my previous posts have gone was a full meyhemer now nothing what do i do slug
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 24, 2012, 11:31:54 am: Still Working on restoring the old Logins / Accounts..... {:-{
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 24, 2012, 11:47:54 am: The great Doggy Geezer put this together for us - Top Man. :-))

What happened?

During Jan / Feb 2012 annoying '504 Tijmeout' errors started effecting many members logging into to the Forum. After many queries to the site hosting company and to SMF, the Forum people it was suggested several s/w upgrades were required. The biggest of these was initiated on the evening of March 13, 2012. It was expected that the forum would be off the air for a few hours....
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11159.msg359774#msg359774 (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=11159.msg359774#msg359774)

It turned out that the inbuilt backup facility doesn't work properly, and an arduous manual; rebuild had to be undertaken. This kept the forum unavailable for several days. It eventually returning on 19 March.

So everything's all right, then?

Well, yes and no. The forum is back up, but the majority of User account / Login details were trashed (6,0000+ in fact!) Many, many posts lost the link to there owners and all those saved PM were also deleted as they suddenly had no owners! These are slowly being investigated and repaired where possible...

Ah. So what will I notice when I sign back on?

Some of you may be able to sign on as if nothing has happened. But many of you will find that your old username/password will not work.

What should I do then?

Go to the (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/Themes/babylon/images/english/register.gif) (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=register) button above and register your name again, as if you were a new user. Once you have gone through the registration process you will be able to access the forum again. BUT you will be treated as a new user...

In this case, can I pick a new name?

Of course! But don't pick a name that was already known to be connected to an original user. People who had signed on under a particular name on the old system will have first choice if they want to use that name again.
Remember to fill your profile in again - in particular your location!
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1448.0
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1448.0)

Does this mean that my old posts, personal messages, pictures, avatar and the rest have gone?

Not necessarily. Just no longer connected to your 'new' username. We are slowly going through the files and re-connecting people where possible. All the old posts are still visible on the forum - just not connected to your new name, even if they have your name against them...

But I had important information in PMs/a spectacular avatar/a really high post number/etc! What should I do!

Keep calm and don't panic! Martin is still in recovery mode, and we hope to get a lot of our data back eventually. This may take some weeks, however. In the meantime, if you have a specific urgent reason for needing a manual fix, you should PM Martin and he will try to fit it in. Examples of a special reason might be:

I want to offer an item for sale and I can't do it because my posts are set to zero
......etc
.....etc

In general, try to avoid bothering Martin with questions and issues which can wait for the next two weeks. If you want to know what's happening, read this sticky which will be updated whenever there is something important to report.

Latest News:

I now have a "repaired members file - I'll test it on the temp forum this week....

Regards,
Martin & Co.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: slug on March 24, 2012, 12:07:21 pm: thank you martin i will be patient you have had a lot of problems you have done very well to get this far slug
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on March 24, 2012, 12:47:25 pm: Martin,

A thought, perhaps this, Doddgy Geezers, account of the meltdown could be put on the welcome page or at least a link to it from the News Box.

Might stop a lot of repetitious questions etc.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Popeye on March 24, 2012, 03:14:50 pm: Congratulations Martin and others who contributed to getting the Forum back on line.

It's like welcoming home an old friend who'd disappeared (into the ether) without prior warning. :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Captain Povey on March 24, 2012, 03:58:41 pm: Hi Martin, Sorry for bothering you earlier with an email. I was unaware of the seriousness of the Crash. Many Thanks for getting Mayhem up again. Cheers Graham. :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: KNO3 on March 25, 2012, 06:10:52 pm: Glad that the forum is back running, thanks Martin and all those who worked on it! My account was gone and I had to register a new one. I hope you'll be able to resurrect the old one to get the old subscriptions and messages back.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Shipmate60 on March 25, 2012, 08:04:13 pm: Due to the loss of part of the members list there were lots of "Sales" items with no contact information.
I have removed these.
Please feel free to repost any ads under your new name and if your new name doesn't have the prerequisite number of posts just contact a moderator.

Bob
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: michael 1979 on March 26, 2012, 09:01:59 am: Martin, Thanks for restoring my posts for me, Top Man :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on March 26, 2012, 09:03:55 am: I was going to send a donattion but paypal wont let me pay in shekels
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: michael 1979 on March 26, 2012, 09:18:58 am: I don't know if this ominous or not but I just had a 504 Gateway Timout I just got back on.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: gingyer on March 26, 2012, 09:46:47 am: Big Bri still cant get back on.
He has tried re registering but it keeps coming up his IP address
is a known spamer and wont let him back {:-{ {:-{ {:-{

I know he is a few things but not a spamer %) %) {-)

Any ideas???
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 26, 2012, 09:49:38 am: Try registering as Big Bri2 on a friends computer. :}

ken
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: davidjt on March 26, 2012, 12:49:43 pm: hi,
dont forget to put your clock forward martin, as we are still one hour behind on all postings times :-))

davidjt
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 26, 2012, 01:01:51 pm: I was an hour late all day yesterday!!! :embarrassed:
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: TheLongBuild on March 26, 2012, 01:43:47 pm: Quote from: gingyer on March 26, 2012, 09:46:47 am
Big Bri still cant get back on.
He has tried re registering but it keeps coming up his IP address
is a known spamer and wont let him back {:-{ {:-{ {:-{

I know he is a few things but not a spamer %) %) {-)

:} :} :} :} :} :} :} :}
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: gingyer on March 26, 2012, 01:55:56 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on March 26, 2012, 09:49:38 am
Try registering as Big Bri2 on a friends computer. :}

ken

It wont let him Kenny it refuses to let him register under anything {:-{ {:-{
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: wullie/mk2 on March 26, 2012, 02:16:24 pm: Quote from: gingyer on March 26, 2012, 09:46:47 am
Big Bri still cant get back on.
He has tried re registering but it keeps coming up his IP address
is a known spamer and wont let him back {:-{ {:-{ {:-{

I know he is a few things but not a spamer %) %) {-)

Any ideas???
...There,s Nowt wrong wi Spam,..I eat it all the time,
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 26, 2012, 03:22:30 pm: If Big BIi still can't re-register, please ask him to email direct - Email Me (martin@modelboatmayhem.co.uk) :-)

Quote from: gingyer on March 26, 2012, 09:46:47 am
Big Bri still cant get back on.
He has tried re registering but it keeps coming up his IP address
is a known spamer and wont let him back {:-{ {:-{ {:-{

I know he is a few things but not a spamer %) %) {-)

Any ideas???
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 26, 2012, 07:46:47 pm: Try it Now Brig Bri! :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: big_bri on March 26, 2012, 08:05:07 pm: Oooooooh! I`m back... :-))
I dont know how long the shakes will take to subside as I just did`nt realize how much I was addicted to this flaming site %%
Anyway, many thanks to all you guy`s for getting Mayhem up and running again and a special thanks to Martin for sorting out my wee spam problem.

Cue the witty comments........... {-)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: lilgoth on March 29, 2012, 06:28:22 pm: just had a bunch of 504 timeout errors...
but now im in O0
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 29, 2012, 06:35:48 pm: Hey! I know why that one was this time!!!

... I just ran a full back up! :-))
Title: My posts gone astray?
Post by: Nordlys on March 30, 2012, 08:58:23 am: Hello Martin,
I have now got back onto the site after the glitch - but my posts under my original user name have been assigned to U-33.
This is very odd?
What has happened to me??
I re- registered with different user name thinking that my old details would not be accepted - am I mistaken here?
Regards......
Title: Re: My posts gone astray?
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 30, 2012, 09:10:57 am: Try re-registering under your old name first - assuming that you want to keep it....
Title: Re: My posts gone astray?
Post by: Nordlys on March 30, 2012, 09:18:14 am: I tried that straightaway - in fact I tried that again this morning but it just says incorrect password (which I know is Correct!)
So I re-registered with new name just to get back onto the site.
Lost all my postings tally......
Title: Re: My posts gone astray?
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on March 30, 2012, 10:39:26 am: It would help us if we knew your OLD NAME

If this won't register then the current advice is to put the number 2 next to your old name and register.

That way we can assimilate them and link them together.

regards

ken
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: lilgoth on March 30, 2012, 11:07:31 am: yeah just woried me when everypage was a 504

my pre meltdown posts are under 'theblackways'
i re-regestered under the same nick ( without the 89 ) O0
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Springbok1 on March 30, 2012, 11:26:58 am: Hi Martin

A big thank you for getting me back on line, I realise the problems you had were massive and your support is appreciated. :-))

Regards

Trevor
Title: Re: My posts gone astray?
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 30, 2012, 01:52:15 pm: Quote from: Tug---Kenny on March 30, 2012, 10:39:26 am
It would help us if we knew your OLD NAME

If this won't register then the current advice is to put the number 2 next to your old name and register.
That way we can assimilate them and link them together.

In an ideal world, there would be a sticky at the front of the forum, and this sort of advice would be added to it as the recovery progressed. I did try to give you a starter set of words.... {:-{ {:-{
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 30, 2012, 02:33:26 pm: It should appear in the "News Box" top right of the forum!

Mayhem is Back! (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36102.msg360882#msg360882)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Timo2 on March 30, 2012, 03:24:50 pm: Hi Martin

Sorry

Not yet still the Temp Style

Timo2

Great work over the last few weeks :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: dodgy geezer on March 30, 2012, 04:14:49 pm: Quote from: Martin - Admin on March 30, 2012, 02:33:26 pm
It should appear in the "News Box" top right of the forum!

Mayhem is Back!
(http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36102.msg360882#msg360882)
Very Good! Then please get the latest advice about how to rename yourself (oldname+2) added to it then, plus any other new recommendations which we need to comply with....
Title: Re: Forum News, Updates, Errors, etc.....
Post by: thegrimreaper on March 30, 2012, 05:58:07 pm: WoW how posh is this looking now like the new look Martin now if only my post count was right I would be able to sell a bit of stuff

oh yes Martin thanks again for your hard work in sorting the problems out RESPECT

Regards Mark
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Timo2 on March 30, 2012, 06:46:31 pm: Hi Martin

That's better Thank You

Timo2

now just history to update :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: ian-mccaffrey on March 30, 2012, 11:42:52 pm: Quote from: brockya on March 19, 2012, 02:10:20 pm
HI
Its just great to be back with everyone, like the song said, you dont know what youve got till its gone !!
Richard

thought i was on facebook when i was reading that !!!!! i was looking for the "like" button
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on March 30, 2012, 11:51:37 pm: I'm just need to 'bounce' the server - the forum will be off line for a few minutes and you may get logged out.

Martin
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: BailingBen on March 31, 2012, 12:58:26 am: Quote from: ian-mccaffrey on March 30, 2012, 11:42:52 pm
thought i was on facebook when i was reading that !!!!! i was looking for the "like" button

KRAFTYKID Like's this
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: U-33 on March 31, 2012, 02:05:19 am: One 'like' button coming right up...
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: ian-mccaffrey on March 31, 2012, 02:27:14 am: Quote from: U-33 on March 31, 2012, 02:05:19 am
One 'like' button coming right up...

awww what a gent !!
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 02, 2012, 01:39:27 pm: There may be be a certain amount of Forum "outage" Thursday evening.

I need to carry out further repairs.... <*<
Title: Topics posting upside down
Post by: Lash151 on April 02, 2012, 03:49:57 pm: Hi... Since the meltdown the posts appear backwards... the first post in a topic is at the bottom and the last post is at the top (err, if you see what I mean!) How do you make it view the other way round? I like opening a topic and seeing the first post first!
Lee
Title: Re: Topics posting upside down
Post by: dougal99 on April 02, 2012, 03:55:39 pm: checkout 'look and layout preferences' in your profile
Title: Re: Topics posting upside down
Post by: Mad_Mike on April 02, 2012, 03:57:05 pm: click the profile tab at the top just under the search bar.

it will then bring you to your profile page. down the left hand side click the link that says look and layout preferences

you should see a tick box check list go down the bottom and untick show most recent posts at top

scroff down further and click change profile to save the settigs
Title: Re: Topics posting upside down
Post by: Circlip on April 02, 2012, 04:01:18 pm: Thought Martin had re-rigged it for our Anti-podium members %%

Regards Ian.
Title: Re: Topics posting upside down
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 02, 2012, 10:06:30 pm: Quote from: Circlip on April 02, 2012, 04:01:18 pm
Thought Martin had re-rigged it for our Anti-podium members %%

Regards Ian.

Makes perfect sense to us, after all why not tailor it to they who art worthy %) %) %) %) %)
O0 O0 O0 O0 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 02, 2012, 10:48:32 pm: Quote
Thought Martin had re-rigged it for our Anti-podium members

Did you mean antipodean? Anti podium means not wanting to be on a stage...
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: howyson on April 04, 2012, 09:17:10 am: Hi Martin

I have re-registered with my original details, will this cause you a problem if you manage to retrieve the old registration?

Regards

Howard
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 04, 2012, 10:23:50 am: Hi Howard

You should be OK. Carry on as normal

ken
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: 6705russell on April 04, 2012, 10:58:41 am: Hi Ken

I have been trying to post pictures all morning to no avail?

Russ
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Circlip on April 04, 2012, 11:05:43 am: Quote
Did you mean antipodean? Anti podium means not wanting to be on a stage...

Doh!

Get with it Colin, everybody nose it would have to have been upside down and backwards O0 %) {-)

Regards Ian.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Colin Bishop on April 04, 2012, 11:09:28 am: Sorry Ian, I didn't realise that your nose was upside down and backwards..... :}

Colin
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 04, 2012, 11:12:42 am: Quote
Hi Ken

I have been trying to post pictures all morning to no avail?
Russ

Post pictures test. I first loaded a large version, but it was too frightening. I then modified it with the smaller one.

The posting system seems to work at the moment' Hope this helps Russ. Keep trying

ken
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: howyson on April 05, 2012, 08:29:11 am: Thanks for the info Ken

Howard
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 05, 2012, 08:37:12 am: Just a reminder, the forum will be off-line for a few hours this evening. <:(

I need to carry out further repairs....
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: kiwimodeller on April 05, 2012, 10:16:59 am: Just another advantage to being in a different time zone on the other end of the world - our evening is different to yours and the forum is right there when we need it thanks !! Ian.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 05, 2012, 10:49:54 am: Quote from: kiwimodeller on April 05, 2012, 10:16:59 am
Just another advantage to being in a different time zone on the other end of the world - our evening is different to yours and the forum is right there when we need it thanks !! Ian.

:-)) :-)) :-)) O0 O0
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 06, 2012, 12:04:29 am: And we're back!

Has anyone had their PM recovered?
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: pettyofficernick on April 06, 2012, 12:57:43 am: None of my original posts or PM's have returned, still showing 11 posts and 9 PM's, forget how mant exactly but there was loads. :(( :((
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 06, 2012, 01:06:19 am: Martin,

Negative, no originals, only items recorded since reregistration, all other data/records gone.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: derekwarner on April 06, 2012, 01:07:32 am: Hullo Martin.....no .......still the same here in OZ on Good Friday......only 1 x PM listed.....Derek... :-X
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on April 06, 2012, 01:45:58 am: Hi Martin

No sorry - PM's still gone and posts still under mkenzig - thanks for trying though.

Regards Dave
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Artistmike on April 06, 2012, 06:40:46 am: No PMs returned for me either and still my posts are astray..... 'aint modern technology great, not to worry though, onwards and upwards. :D
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: triumphjon on April 06, 2012, 07:56:06 am: ive not had anything returned eitther , must all be lost in cyberspace ?
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: U-33 on April 06, 2012, 08:05:49 am: I never lost mine....

Rich
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Footski on April 06, 2012, 08:34:41 am: Well you were lucky Rich....Lost all mine and not got them back!! :(( :((
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: DickyD on April 06, 2012, 08:44:58 am: Mine aren't back either. (http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p8/DickyD_photos/Smileys/crying2.gif)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Bob K on April 06, 2012, 08:53:57 am: Thank you for your valliant efforts Martin. The main thing is this valuable resource is working, for which we are truly grateful.
If I've 'lost' a few PM's and had to create a new name that is no big deal. 1,171 of us are back in communication.
Muchas Gracias! Grazie mille! Merci mille fois! Herzlichen Dank!

Bob K (was bobk)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: catengineman on April 06, 2012, 09:52:36 am: No PM return :((

Seeing my name as a guest is a little off putting as well but I know Martin will be doing his very very best to get the site back to normality.

R
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 06, 2012, 11:11:50 am: Quote from: Bob K on April 06, 2012, 08:53:57 am
Thank you for your valliant efforts Martin. The main thing is this valuable resource is working, for which we are truly grateful.
If I've 'lost' a few PM's and had to create a new name that is no big deal. 1,171 of us are back in communication.
Muchas Gracias! Grazie mille! Merci mille fois! Herzlichen Dank!

Bob K (was bobk)

Bravo :-)) :-)) O0 O0 Its mayhem what do you expect %) %) %)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Liverbudgie2 on April 06, 2012, 11:36:25 am: Mine are all there though, well done Martin keep your pecker up lad!!

LB
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Ghost in the shell on April 06, 2012, 12:13:20 pm: i logs on, forum down, first thing comes into my head

"who started an argument so bad that the system has to be plugged"

oh system crashed!

WELL DONE MARTIN FOR FIXING IT
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 06, 2012, 12:52:32 pm: . . . . . sigh! {:-{
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: marinemole on April 06, 2012, 12:53:36 pm: I re-registered under my original login id. PM's, record of postings etc still missing.

As so many others have rightly said....well done and many thanks for all your hard work.

Andy
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: swordfish fairey on April 06, 2012, 02:30:27 pm: Hi all again, back after re-registering, seem to have lost everything, but at least I'm back on and that's the main thing. Changed my photo for a new look, Well done Martin.......Smudge
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on April 06, 2012, 03:29:05 pm: Hey Catengineman - just noticed your avatar
Ooh - It makes me feel ill (nothing personal)
It's a bit like being on the waltzers .......

Dave
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: TheLongBuild on April 06, 2012, 03:41:18 pm: Lost all the pms on the forum (copys went to my main email however) and tracking of my posts gone, may be down to the fact my id is ever so slightly different to the original but at the end as long as the threads are intact just look at it as a big spring clean of dorment accounts..

The fact that over 1000 rejoined so quickly is a tribute to Martin and the site..

Oh and it brought Ghosty out of Hibernation.. :}
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Ghost in the shell on April 06, 2012, 04:31:03 pm: Quote from: TheLongBuild on April 06, 2012, 03:41:18 pm
Oh and it brought Ghosty out of Hibernation.. :}

can i go back into hibernation????
Title: I'm back online, woo hoo!
Post by: Number 6 on April 06, 2012, 04:36:06 pm: Hi all, I'm finally back online with the purchase of a shiny new laptop! Pain in the rear trying to keep up with things on my smart phone! I'll hopefully have my new workshop in Wem, Shropshire up and running in the next couple of weeks then it's back to the boat building!!!! 1:72 scale Prinz Eugen to build now, only 10ft long!! Number 6, aka Dave. :-)) :-)) :-))
Title: Re: I'm back online, woo hoo!
Post by: U-33 on April 06, 2012, 04:45:04 pm: Welcome home, chap...

Rich
Title: Re: I'm back online, woo hoo!
Post by: Norseman on April 06, 2012, 04:49:33 pm: Hi Dave - the mention of getting your new workshop up and running
has stirred me into motion (well slow motion anyway) - I'm off to the
shed I'm converting for models - it sort of ground to a halt due to the
cold weather and my general tendency towards idleness.

Post up some pics of your new workshop with the Prinz Eugen.

Dave
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: catengineman on April 06, 2012, 05:48:35 pm: Quote from: Norseman on April 06, 2012, 03:29:05 pm
Hey Catengineman - just noticed your avatar
Ooh - It makes me feel ill (nothing personal)
It's a bit like being on the waltzers .......

Dave

Err Yes made me fell a little queasy But I could not find my original so just clicked on a random file.
Will probably up-load something at a later date.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: KNO3 on April 06, 2012, 06:36:56 pm: My account hasn't recovered either... :-(
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: TheLongBuild on April 06, 2012, 07:00:11 pm: Quote from: Ghost in the shell on April 06, 2012, 04:31:03 pm
can i go back into hibernation????

Nope. About time you put another build/ restoration project on..
Title: WHY
Post by: larry w on April 08, 2012, 01:30:58 pm: HAPPY EASTER MARTIN,
WHY do I go on to welcome page when i answer returns to my posts and pm it was all right before the site crashed,
also get more time out errors , can you fix it i don't to get the nice response any more :(( LARRY.....
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 08, 2012, 02:31:09 pm: Not sure what you mean Larry.....

All your personal settings can be changed under (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/Themes/babylon/images/english_british/profile.gif) above.
http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile (http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php?action=profile)

"when i answer returns to my posts" What do you want to happen?

We're still working on the 504 timeout errors... that's what caused the Mayhem Meltdown in the first place! {:-{ :((
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Netleyned on April 08, 2012, 03:07:45 pm: I had about 20 timeouts between 8 & 1130 today
My worse day ever.
We know you will crack it Martin.
Things can only get better.
:-)) :-)) :-))

Ned
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: larry w on April 08, 2012, 04:22:58 pm: HI ,
EVERY TIME I TRY PICK UP POSTS AND PM I GET A GREAT BIG STARTER PAGE , THEN I CLICK TO FORUM.......LARRY..
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: larry w on April 09, 2012, 09:44:46 am: good morning martin , can not find your reply going cross eyed reading posts still getting wecome page the one with all wickstead adds on {:-{ ..
thank you bringing the mayhem back on line but i can get on pages like i used to ....Larry...
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: malcolmfrary on April 09, 2012, 10:30:34 am: Quote from: larry w on April 09, 2012, 09:44:46 am
good morning martin , can not find your reply going cross eyed reading posts still getting wecome page the one with all wickstead adds on {:-{ ..
thank you bringing the mayhem back on line but i can get on pages like i used to ....Larry...
My bookmark/favorite link to here looks like this -

http://www.modelboatmayhem.co.uk/forum/index.php and puts me on the login page.

If yours looks any different, you will be directed somewhere else.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Getemuphigh on April 09, 2012, 12:37:15 pm: Got my name back ok, thanks Martin.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: larry w on April 09, 2012, 01:28:06 pm: hi how do you book mark pages ...larry..
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: malcolmfrary on April 09, 2012, 02:53:52 pm: If using chrome as your browser, on the top line of the page, at the right, there is a spanner. Next to that is a star. Click the star. From the list that drops down, pick a spot to save it, click "done".
If using IE, top left is a button marked "favourites". Click that and proceed from there.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Kerrsy on April 09, 2012, 08:38:53 pm: Hi
Great to have the site back up well done all
My post come up with "broger" as the owner and it should be Kerrsy
I wonder when you have a minute would you be kind enough to change it
Broger also has my avatar

thank you

Alan Kerr
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 10, 2012, 11:25:04 am: Larry has left the forum.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: U-33 on April 10, 2012, 12:14:46 pm: Saw that earlier...a 'toys out the pram' moment?

Rich
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 10, 2012, 01:27:55 pm: A pity <:( as most, are all experiencing the same problems and frustration, but we just need to hang in there and be patient O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: TheLongBuild on April 10, 2012, 01:45:51 pm: Has Larry W actually Left or accidentally turned something off ?.

Larry R.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: catengineman on April 10, 2012, 03:52:16 pm: I know we all get to a point where the last straw gets to you
I know I've been there.

it is a shame that this site has lost a member, every one of use are special in our own ways and we (i know I do) learn and can teach to others and from others about the many many different ways to enjoy our hobby (or careers)
I am using my old name and even all my old settings, even so I have to resign myself to the fact that past posts and PM may never be open to me (in my case not such a great loss) it however does mean that if I want to remind myself of an item which in my brain I know happened then that link is missing (and before you say anything capt jack) yes there are a few dead cells in between my ears :D

I think that Martin and all the others involved in the rebuild of the site are doing their very best without causing too much of an inconvenience to us modelers out here

Well done to Martin and the other unsung hero's
Title: Help
Post by: kiwi96 on April 11, 2012, 09:14:48 am: I am a regular visitor and poster here. I came to visit the other day and site was down. Came back tonight and I did not exist. Username not valid and had to re register. Used same username but all posts I had made have me down as guest. I want to return back to my original statis. I will delete my latest registration after this post and await admin to email me with news of my reinstatement as old kiwi96. Will watch posts as guest and asee what happens.
Cheers,
Adrian aka kiwi96.
Title: Re: Help
Post by: Netleyned on April 11, 2012, 09:32:00 am: Most of us are in the same boat (pun intended)
Kiwi96
We are all waiting patiently (most of us anyway)
to see if Martin can restore the old system
The main problem as I see it is that a restore to before
the meltdown would mean losing everything posted since.
Martin and his helpers are doing all they can so just re register
and wait for future developments.

Ned
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on April 11, 2012, 09:49:14 am: I'm not sure why there is such a fuss about the post count.... this to me is a badge of shame :embarrassed:... It shows how much time I spend on the forum and how many stupid questions I must have asked lol {-)

Is it such a big deal that your posts are no longer attributed to you? the information is still there for others to see. I'm sure thats the most important thing.

Let's give Martin and co a break and let them get on with the important stuff
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: DickyD on April 11, 2012, 10:02:13 am: Quote from: essex2visuvesi on April 11, 2012, 09:49:14 am
I'm not sure why there is such a fuss about the post count.... this to me is a badge of shame :embarrassed:... It shows how much time I spend on the forum and how many stupid questions I must have asked lol {-)

Badge of shame and stupid questions to you maybe, to others, how long they have spent on the forum helping others.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Vintage on April 11, 2012, 10:54:51 am: Quote from: DickyD on April 11, 2012, 10:02:13 am
Badge of shame and stupid questions to you maybe, to others, how long they have spent on the forum helping others.
:-))

Just to add my thoughts - I do post very occasionally, specifically on vintage subjects (which I know a little about) when I feel that I've something positive to add that'll help others.

As I suggested in a response to an email from Martin last week - the reinstatement of the site back to it's original form prior to the crash, if that's at all possible, would be a far preferable solution imho.

"There was a wealth of information built up over many years that would, potentially, be lost otherwise & it'd also mean that those who haven't rejoined would, I assume, be automatically reinstated.

Contrast that with the loss of a few weeks posts and a much depleted membership - I'd have though it makes sense to reset everything...."

I fully appreciate all the hard work that Martin puts in, especially over these past few weeks, in trying to resolve the issues & one of the reasons that I'd held off rejoining was because I could see the potential for duplicate user name problems in reinstating old accounts.

"I'm still talking to the host company to work out what's going on but they are still being less than helpful..". - Martin

If this is the case then can I suggest that you consider moving the hosting? We had huge issues with 1&1 as a hosting company (I appreciate that you're not with them) & eventually switched to United Hosting who are incredibly helpful, have servers based in the UK & go out of their way to ensure that everything runs smoothly... Incidentally - I have absolutely no association with them other than being a very satisfied customer :-))

Thank you for a great forum & good luck!

Mark
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 11, 2012, 11:05:25 am: Mark,

Under topic "forum news etc", a similar comment, namely, switch back recover all data etc and lose all recent posts, was suggested.

It would seem that this is preferable to many in the main.

However, I do not recall it being said that this is possible but if it is, maybe we should seriously consider it.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on April 11, 2012, 11:08:00 am: Quote from: DickyD on April 11, 2012, 10:02:13 am
Badge of shame and stupid questions to you maybe, to others, how long they have spent on the forum helping others.

True and I dont disagree with you on that... the comment was made firmly tongue in cheek but other than the 25 posts in order to sell in the classifieds, does the post count actually mean anything at all?

Quote from: Vintage on April 11, 2012, 10:54:51 am

As i suggested in a response to an email from Martin last week - the reinstatement of the site back to it's original form prior to the crash, if that's at all possible, would be a far preferable solution imho.

I don't think thats possible as Martin was saying earlier that the backups had not been backing up.

As for the Hosting change... I have been in communication with Martin re hosting here in Finland through the company I work for. One advantage of which is that the hosting guys are within coffee cup throwing distance of my desk :D and the servers are physically downstairs
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Vintage on April 11, 2012, 11:43:13 am: Quote from: raaartygunner on April 11, 2012, 11:05:25 am
Mark,

Under topic "forum news etc", a similar comment, namely, switch back recover all data etc and lose all recent posts, was suggested.

It would seem that this is preferable to many in the main.

However, I do not recall it being said that this is possible but if it is, maybe we should seriously consider it.

Hi - My thoughts were based upon comments Martin had mentioned in an email to me last week, namely:

"Merging the old and new accounts is proving really difficult and the latest suggestion involves loosing all the connections to all the posts that have rejoined....."

If that is the case then it would seem the preferable solution imho.

Mark
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: TheLongBuild on April 11, 2012, 01:42:06 pm: Keep drinking the coffee Martin :-)) you will get there in the end..
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: lilgoth on April 11, 2012, 03:23:37 pm: Quote from: essex2visuvesi on April 11, 2012, 11:08:00 am

One advantage of which is that the hosting guys are within coffee cup throwing distance of my desk :D and the servers are physically downstairs

i wouldnt throw coffee at them...they might get you back by pulling out wires %%
i also suspect by now martin simply runs on coffee O0
i dont really mind losing my post count im sure ill have it back up in due time anyways
although members with 5 figure post marks might feel differently ;D
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on April 11, 2012, 03:36:31 pm: It isn't the posting numbers I missed (though Martin kindly fixed that without my asking), it is the links to everything I was looking
at and also the PM's that I saved for various reasons. I can still search for my old posts by searching for 'mckenzig' but can't for other
peoples posts as I found out when I sent Hama a PM regarding an old post. He replied that it wasn't his........ and 'WoW look at all this
stuff under my name' (Hama's I mean).

I think Martin has done everything possible and maybe we need to just move on and accept that old posts might be under the wrong names;
at least they are all still there to be read.

Dave
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: lilgoth on April 11, 2012, 05:25:26 pm: ^^^ yeah
pm's would certanally be good to have back ( although i didnt have many ) but i think i had an un-read one just before the meltdown
who knows
the pm might have contained the emergency panik button that could have saved the forum {-)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on April 11, 2012, 06:42:44 pm: Lilgoth I am intrigued by your Mantra 'The cake is a lie'
The cake is a truth - saying 'I don't want the cake' is the lie

Dave
....... diabetic2 and still wants cake - mainly craving Walnut or Carrot, sometimes Cherry & Coconut .......
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: lilgoth on April 11, 2012, 09:38:09 pm: the cake is a lie is a line from the puzzle game 'portal'
you complete the tests to get your promiced 'cake' at the end of the game
unfortunatly the tester ( an out of control computer ) betrays and tries to kill you
so there is no cake
hence the message in hidden rooms all through the game telling you the cake is a lie :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TluRVBhmf8w
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 11, 2012, 10:22:05 pm: Quote from: lilgoth on April 11, 2012, 05:25:26 pm
^^^ yeah
pm's would certanally be good to have back ( although i didnt have many ) but i think i had an un-read one just before the meltdown
who knows
the pm might have contained the emergency panic button that could have saved the forum {-)

Ah, it reads like an episode of LOST, push the button or else?????????????????/ O0 O0 {-) {-) {-)

In reality all mayhemers are lost, {-) {-) look at them, all experiencing withdrawal symtoms, Martin, give me my posts back, Martin give me my numbers, my PM's, Martin where are you %% %% %% %%
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on April 12, 2012, 07:51:13 am: Quote from: TheLongBuild on April 11, 2012, 01:42:06 pm
Keep drinking the coffee Martin :-)) you will get there in the end..

I think he may have to lay off the coffee... I popped in to see our Martin last night and sadly I think all the Site issues are getting to him.
I did manage to grab a quick picture
He kept muttering something about his precious.... all very odd
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on April 12, 2012, 11:49:29 am: He wouldn't answer the door when I knocked
but through the letterbox I could see him with
the post meltdown donation.
(http://s14.postimage.org/5pwjo70rh/Donations_arrive.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/5pwjo70rh/)
Dave
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 12, 2012, 12:29:20 pm: I can't get over how well he looks O0 O0 even after the meltdown, definitely a sign of hidden stamina %) %) %)

Must be something to do with being in the Northern hemisphere %% %% %%
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on April 12, 2012, 01:43:38 pm: Good afternoon Ladies & Gentlemen,

Sorry I've I've not updated everyone recently but the coffee and caffeine are not as effective after 2 or 3 gallons, some evening I
look at the options for fixing the forum and just stare at the screen blankly for a couple of hours while watching Mythbusters, they
really do have some budget for that show!

My next scheme is to create a blank forum using the new version on the forum s/w, and reinstate a backup until I find one that actually
works. The main issue being that I've been using the forum backup system for years, reassured in the fact that was the best option
only to find out it's actually a bit 'rubbish'! In fact the real preferred option (PHPMYADMIN) isn't much better in that the only real way to
test a full backup is to restore it somewhere else and see if it works?!?!?

If that does work, I'll see if I can restore the membership / logons and see how much will be lost. There may well be a way of merging
the recent post onto the resorted Forum but that a job for someone with unlimited resources, an offshore software company or an
infinite number of monkeys capable of writing all the works of Shakespeare!

Anyway, that's what I'll be doing this weekend.....

Quote from: essex2visuvesi on April 11, 2012, 09:49:14 am

Is it such a big deal that your posts are no longer attributed to you? the information is still there for others to see. I'm sure thats the most important thing.

Yes that my thinking too. Actually, I couldn't believe my luck when the Forum wobbled back to it's feet and all the posts were there, especially the pictures. I did a quick lap of honour round that back garden that night I can tell ya!!!

I've been told that I'm looking drawn and a little recently.... and for a black guy, that's not to good. {-)

Keep posting the funnies, they do cheer me up!

Cheerio 'My Precious!'

HAHAHAHahahahahaha...... ( Maniacal laughter. Exit stage right. Fade to black.... )

Martin %%
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: jimmy2310 on April 12, 2012, 02:30:27 pm: Well done, don't lose your sense of humour Martin.

Jimmy
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on April 12, 2012, 02:30:27 pm: As you requested Martin
(http://s13.postimage.org/usyynpyk3/Room_504.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/usyynpyk3/)
Dave
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on April 12, 2012, 03:49:44 pm: Quote from: Martin - Admin on April 12, 2012, 01:43:38 pm
or an
infinite number of monkeys capable of writing all the works of Shakespeare!

Martin %%

we have been using these ones at work recently for some database modification and verification. I'm sure I can arrange for them to help you on an ad-hoc basis subject to a satisfactory renumeration package.... I hear they are very fond of outspan and Fyffes
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29400000/Intelligent-monkey-random-29494090-500-460.jpg)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: tt1 on April 12, 2012, 07:01:34 pm: {-) {-) {-) {-) {-) like it! :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: dodgy geezer on April 12, 2012, 07:59:05 pm: Quote from: Martin - Admin on April 12, 2012, 01:43:38 pm

....the only real way to test a full backup is to restore it somewhere else and see if it works?!?!? ...

I simply run an incremental file image backup for my web sites using IceMirror, and then copy the results to a DVD once a fortnight, and load onto a spare machine (which then becomes the standby...

Quote from: Martin - Admin on April 12, 2012, 01:43:38 pm

Quote from: essex2visuvesi
Is it such a big deal that your posts are no longer attributed to you? the information is still there for others to see. I'm sure thats the most important thing.

Yes that my thinking too...

I miss the PMs I had with contact data - and when someone comments on an old post I had contributed to, I can no longer easily see if there is an update to that post...
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 12, 2012, 10:45:00 pm: Quote from: essex2visuvesi on April 12, 2012, 03:49:44 pm
we have been using these ones at work recently for some database modification and verification. I'm sure I can arrange for them to help you on an ad-hoc basis subject to a satisfactory renumeration package.... I hear they are very fond of outspan and Fyffes
(http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/29400000/Intelligent-monkey-random-29494090-500-460.jpg)

Strewth mate in OZ, he would get a job as a top deck intellectual O0 O0 {-) {-) {-)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Richtea on April 12, 2012, 11:45:22 pm: TOO late,
that is David Cameron's top advisor {-)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: lilgoth on April 18, 2012, 09:20:19 am: got nervous just...had a few 504 timeouts
makes me jumpy now :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on April 18, 2012, 12:19:41 pm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Tug-Kenny RIP on April 18, 2012, 02:42:10 pm: Quote from: essex2visuvesi on April 18, 2012, 12:19:41 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlBiLNN1NhQ

Very Good

Gave me something to listen to while I suffer another 504. {-)

ken
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: catengineman on April 18, 2012, 06:02:15 pm: Mmmm got my first 504 <:(

Then when I did get back to the site I tried to select a different page and the system froze, had to close the page then restart.

As this is my first problem I am possibly lucky, reading some of the posts !!
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on April 18, 2012, 11:23:13 pm: Maybe because we are down under O0 O0 , since the meltdown, I am getting a lock up, the site freezes when I try and log out.

Have to shut down my browser and reopen the browser/site then I can log out. {:-{ {:-{ {:-{
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: lilgoth on April 19, 2012, 02:54:53 am: Quote from: raaartygunner on April 18, 2012, 11:23:13 pm
Maybe because we are down under O0 O0 , since the meltdown, I am getting a lock up, the site freezes when I try and log out.

Have to shut down my browser and reopen the browser/site then I can log out. {:-{ {:-{ {:-{

have you tried with a different browser ??
works fine on my firefox
although i have recently had some websites that wont work well in firefox but work fine in internet explorer ( or vica verca )
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: gerard on May 02, 2012, 06:49:13 pm: Martin.
My previous name before the meltdown was Returnee, is there any chance of getting the messages I had saved transferedto the name I have now as I would like to get at some of the information and I cant get to see them now .
Regards,
Gerard
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on May 02, 2012, 07:17:16 pm: .... I'm still looking into that Gerard.... {:-{
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: bbdave on May 07, 2012, 11:22:55 am: I'm not that fussed about amount of posts etc but i used to go through my profile to see where i had posted so i could check back on old threads links etc. also i saved some pms with useful info it's a shame that's all lost.

Dave
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Circlip on May 07, 2012, 12:45:01 pm: Couple of times after signing in, when I've pressed the "Login" button I've receive a change profile instruction screen and also after posting, at times it's difficult to log out, the screen "Hangs" and I have to leave explorer, start explorer again, sign into MBM again to then Logout otherwise I'm still lit up on the forum but can't make an entry. Yes, I'm on IE and no, I don't want a different one. Any web site programme generator worth his salt makes sure ALL work properly.

Regards Ian.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on May 07, 2012, 01:40:41 pm: Quote from: Circlip on May 07, 2012, 12:45:01 pm
Couple of times after signing in, when I've pressed the "Login" button I've receive a change profile instruction screen and also after posting, at times it's difficult to log out, the screen "Hangs" and I have to leave explorer, start explorer again, sign into MBM again to then Logout otherwise I'm still lit up on the forum but can't make an entry. Yes, I'm on IE and no, I don't want a different one. Any web site programme generator worth his salt makes sure ALL work properly.

Regards Ian.

Having similar problems trying to log out the site hangs.
Also after posting a comment the site hangs like now.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Circlip on May 07, 2012, 01:47:41 pm: Sorry Raaarty, just seen your post 339, exactly the same at times.

Nearly in the same words of a well known film - "Martin, you're going to need a bigger BAT" (NOT Bateau) {-)

Regards Ian.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Artistmike on May 07, 2012, 01:48:02 pm: There seem to be lots of 504 timeouts today, it makes you wonder if the servers just can't cope with the extra traffic at holiday times .......
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: RAAArtyGunner on May 07, 2012, 01:58:16 pm: Quote from: Artistmike on May 07, 2012, 01:48:02 pm
There seem to be lots of 504 timeouts today, it makes you wonder if the servers just can't cope with the extra traffic at holiday times .......

Don't know that the traffic/extra traffic reason holds up.

My difficulties, I am in Australia, seem worse when your side of the world is out to it.

The host should be able to provide numbers when and at what times peak loads are achieved and they can be matched up with the glitches.

Could be the host slows/shapes the site or such "out of hours"???????????????????

Just got worse very slow to post this then got a 504 and had to log back in.

Checked site figures 93 guests and 29 users? less than at normal times.???????????
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Artistmike on May 07, 2012, 02:08:10 pm: Quote from: raaartygunner on May 07, 2012, 01:58:16 pm
Checked site figures 93 guests and 29 users? less than at normal times.???????????

That may be because the server is disconnecting the rest.... {-)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: AlisterL on May 08, 2012, 03:44:33 am: The frequency of the 504 errors is not going to be entirely based on the number of users concurrently on the site, but also on what it is that they are doing.
From what I can tell (and with the help of a little Googling) the 504 error is reported by the Nginex webserver not getting a response back from the PHP-based forum software within a certain time. There could be a number of reasons for this... While the "spec" of the server (RAM, CPU etc) do have an effect on this, the architecture of the underlying software can mean that having multiple CPU's might just result in having any additional CPU's sitting idle, and if heaps of RAM is available, only that RAM up to a certain limit is actually used.

While I find the occasional 504 error annoying, I think we should remember how bad it was when the forum went away entirely... Lets face it - we can all log in, we can all post, we can all respond, we can all enjoy our hobby - Martin's doing a great job.

I have been in the situation where the failure of an IT system that I was responsible for took down an entire business and believe me it's not fun (and we have way more than the number of users this forum does to worry about), so I feel for Martin very deeply and I'm absolutely certain it will come right in the end.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Bob K on May 08, 2012, 09:17:25 am: Please bear in mind there are frequently over 100 users accessing this forum, which is a heck of a lot more than many others I read, with most accessing searching and dowloading content.

OK, occassionaly I get a 504 time out. I get on with something else for 1/4 hour then try again. Invariably it then opens up fine.

When posting sometimes it goes 504 during the post upload, however almost every time the post does come though.
Suggestion: If writing more than a two or three sentances I compose in Word which has a better spell checker, then copy paste into the reply box. I leave the temporary Word document open until I can see it's gone through, just in case.

No big deal. I am just so grateful that Mayhem is back up and running after the meltdown.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: essex2visuvesi on May 08, 2012, 09:21:48 am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHFDa9efCQU
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: patternmaker on May 08, 2012, 03:47:39 pm: Its great to have the forum back, but it would be better if we could have our pre meltdown statistics and PMs as well, it would appear that the chosen few have theirs.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on May 08, 2012, 05:11:42 pm: How many did you have? 500 enough? :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: patternmaker on May 08, 2012, 05:36:38 pm: That would do nicely, thank you Martin,
I wonder how many members made a donation to help with the stirling work you and the backroom boys have to do
to keep us all in order.

Regards Mick
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Martin (Admin) on May 08, 2012, 05:44:32 pm: ... I donated many, unaffordable brain cells...!

Actually, a number of Mayhemers did make donation which covered most of the costs, thanks again Gentlemen. :-))
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: irishcarguy on May 10, 2012, 05:23:19 am: I seem to get most time outs @ between 12 to 1 AM here in Canada, that would be between 7 & 8 AM U/K time. I just disconnect & log back in & it works most times. I do have a lot of posts that are not mine & don't have the ones I did post. But I am sure it will all sort itself out in the end. I don;t know where my avatar came from, certainly not from me, but I kinda like it. Mick B.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Netleyned on May 10, 2012, 06:54:52 am: The avatar is Corposants
(Google it)

Ned
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Artistmike on May 10, 2012, 08:20:30 am: Quote from: Bob K on May 08, 2012, 09:17:25 am
Please bear in mind there are frequently over 100 users accessing this forum, which is a heck of a lot more than many others I read, with most accessing searching and dowloading content.

In my experience, 100 users is a very small number indeed ! On one forum for another interest I pursue , there are normally between 5,000 to 10,000 users on the site and it has peaked at over 12,000. For a small UK site dealing in a particular niche aspect of the same interest, there is normally five hundred on line at any one time, peaking at just under a thousand, without any problems.

There is obviously something amiss at the server end and I feel really sorry for Martin and those others helping, trying to sort all this out, as it must be highly frustrating and also very time consuming for all involved.

I know that I, like everyone else, am very grateful for the time effort and dedication put into it all as I really missed the site when it was down for a while but as we all know these 504 errors are a daily occurrence now, I'm sure Martin's blood pressure in particular will improve no end when it's sorted and he'll love being able to get out in the fresh air occasionally again. O0
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: ian-mccaffrey on May 10, 2012, 09:13:09 am: here is a present for martin .... you could probably do with this after the site going down ..... and a few cold beers !!!!

(http://s16.postimage.org/3v7r6unep/relax_chair.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3v7r6unep/)
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Circlip on May 10, 2012, 11:04:27 am: Just post 339'd me again followed by a 504 and I'm not blaming you Martin but it's about time the Burks got it sorted.

Regards Ian
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on May 10, 2012, 12:02:12 pm: Even if Mayhem got to the state of the Ohio from the Pedestal convoy
I'd be almost as happy as Malta was in 1942 to see it still afloat ...........
with Martin and the tech's acting as the destroyers and tugs alongside it.

Dave
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: irishcarguy on May 10, 2012, 09:11:37 pm: I believe you Ned, no need to google, if Martin would be so kind to return it to its rightful owner, Thanks again Ned. Mick B.
Title: Re: The Great Mayhem Meltdown of 2012
Post by: Norseman on May 10, 2012, 09:36:19 pm: You can do it in profile Mick - but choose yourself a good avatar before going there.
......... hee hee - Two Tamars? :D {-)

Dave