Model Boat Mayhem
Mess Deck: General Section => Chit-Chat => Topic started by: Capt Podge on March 24, 2012, 10:18:43 pm
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Yes folks, once again our illustrious leaders have decreed that we must advance our clocks 1hr forward vis : 0100 to 0200. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
I just can't understand the logic in this anymore - why, why, why ???? >:-o >:-o >:-o
This posting may seem like a bit of a rant but, in reality, I just wanted to remind everyone O0 {-) {-) {-)
Regards,
Ray.
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Call me cynical...... but I think it's just another way the government can take something from us.... it's a "time tax"!! ;)
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I know what you mean I really don't understand why we have to put our clocks forward and backward every year {:-{ {:-{ As far as I know we are the only European country to do this.
I just think It's a bit silly now %% %%
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I know what you mean I really don't understand why we have to put our clocks forward and backward every year {:-{ {:-{ As far as I know we are the only European country to do this.
I just think It's a bit silly now %% %%
Works a treat in Cyprus. I once watched a whole platoon of German holidaymakers miss their Sunday breakfast.
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Works a treat in Cyprus. I once watched a whole platoon of German holidaymakers miss their Sunday breakfast.
Now I bet that was fun to watch LOL {-) {-)
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The true perfidious nature of "time tax" is that although we get a delicious extra hour in bed for five months of the year, we get woken up an hour early for seven months. That is totally unfair. They say it is "good for farmers" - well if they want to get up extra early I'm not stopping them.
Likewise the few European-dealing businesses that demand double Summer Time, they should not force the rest of us into premature consciousness nor make people to drive to work still half asleep causing increased accidents.
Daft IMHO
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As far as I know we are the only European country to do this.
I just think It's a bit silly now
Of course we aren't! Other countries do exactly the same. Do you really want to keep the dark evenings into the Spring? The real argument is whether we should fall into line with European countries and advance our clocks a further hour. Much better in my view. if it doesn't suit Scotland then they can have their own time zone. France is an hour ahead of us all year round and I find it works much better than in the UK, much better to have longer daylight hours during the evening when you can do something useful in your own time.
Colin
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As for it "being good for farmers"
one autumn I once asked an old farmer if he had enjoyed his extra hour in bed.
His answer was,
"T'cows can't tell time lad, so what's good a watch for a farmer".
Regards
Richard :-))
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Now hear this, now hear this, the answer is simple move to Queensland Australia, our clocks alway tell the right time, no daylight saving.
O0 O0 O0 {-) {-) {-)
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>>:-(..in Queensland ...well thay may have a new Government this morning :-)) :-)) :-)) .....but.............
1. the cows suffer from Too much daylight & don't produce as much milk <:(
2. the curtains fade from Too much sunshine %%
3. the chooks don't lay as many eggs :o
Need I say more?.....
4. will the new LNP Government align itself with New South Wales & introduce daylight saving?.....& give the cows & chooks a break........ {-)........Derek
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Actually, lets think about this....Our bodies operate on the suns position, we know the suns position in advance. Computers can do this for us easily and radio controlled clock/watches already exist.
I'M THE DADDY OF MODERN TIME/ TIMEKEEPING!! {-)
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I am by nature a 'night owl'. I have always done my most creative work long after the sun has set, so having to get up even earlier gains me no extra sunlight at all, just less sleep. QED.
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Several years in NZ, we changed that start and end dates for DST so that the start was earlier in the year and the end later - I think it was 3 weeks at each end or something like that. One of the reasons put forward is that it save electricity as you get more daylight at each end, so less need for lighting.
At this time of year (Autumn down here now) the mornings are starting to get a little too dark for my liking, but the evenings are still good.
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Guys you all can do what I do : I get up at 5 but I wake up at 9 . BTW I start at work at 6 :}
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>>:-(..in Queensland ...well thay may have a new Government this morning :-)) :-)) :-)) .....but.............
1. the cows suffer from Too much daylight & don't produce as much milk <:(
2. the curtains fade from Too much sunshine %%
3. the chooks don't lay as many eggs :o
Need I say more?.....
4. will the new LNP Government align itself with New South Wales & introduce daylight saving?.....& give the cows & chooks a break........ {-)........Derek
C, mon Derek I know you are just itching to move to Sunny (between cyclones and monsoonal rain) Queensland O0 O0 O0 {-) {-) {-)
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BST - I know I didn't break that! :P
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I gather that it's something to do with the limited light available to Scottish arable farmers. Now that every agricultural machine has about a dozen high-powered spotlights and you can see harvesting etc going on all round the clock this argument seems a bit spurious. How many arable farmers are there left in Scotland anyway? Let's hope that if Mr Salmond gets his way then we can leave our clocks as they are in England and he can do whatever he likes with his.
There was also some concern about kids being unsafe on the roads when it's dark early in the morning. Wouldn't it be less bother to change the school hours than disrupt the sleeping patterns of the whole population twice a year? Anyway, around here you don't see many kids going to school on foot or bike - they're all driven by their mummies in great big Chelsea tractors.
DM
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Is 'arable' the Scottish pronounciation of 'horrible'?
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No ok2 do'not say a thing ;D
OK
When it's dark it's DARK
Now we see the LIGHT
Timo2
The Sheriff will tell you off >>:-( <*<
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Is 'arable' the Scottish pronounciation of 'horrible'?
Nah, you f1ck savvern git. It means fings wot grows inna graand, innit? The scottish word for 'orrible is "scottish"................. ;D
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I'm with Colin (Bishop) on this one, I think it's a real treat getting an extra hour daylight in the evening especially after the dark evenings of winter O0
With the lovely weather we're currently having its put a real spring in me step and a bit of summer delight in me 'ed - is that sad or what! {-) {-) {-)
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Too right!
I feel better for seeing some extra sunlight, I will enjoy whilst I still can, I might not see any sunshine for a few months, just snow, more snow and did I mention snow?
Nick B
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As far as I know we are the only European country to do this.
I just think It's a bit silly now %% %%
We have it here as well
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We have it here as well
Please note I did say "as far as I know" ! However I also like the extra hour in the shed !! :-)
I just don't like losing an hours sleep lol :((
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Please note I did say "as far as I know" ! However I also like the extra hour in the shed !! :-)
I just don't like losing an hours sleep lol :((
you get it back in October lol
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All this ranting is a bit silly really. What, on Saturday, was 8am became on Sunday 9am. A much nicer time to be able to sit outside with a coffee and the Sunday Times. And so it remained for most of the day. Whoever thought up the notion of shifting time was a genius....deserves a medal. But...always a "but"....if we, heaven forfend, go to "Berlin Time" which is 1 hour ahead of us, then you'll be expected to get up and go to work a lot earlier than you really want to.
But in the wise words of (Truman)...."If it ain't broke, then don't fix it". BY.
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What country is the MAYHEM clock in. :}
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i suffer with insomnia...so day and night dont really make much of a difference to me :)
one is easier to see and said...but there are more folk about
the other is much quieter and more peacefull
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In Arizona the First Nation (what was the reservation) don't change to Daylight saving but the rest of the State does. So some of them can leave for work an hour late and still arrive on time, obversely you can be real late. %%
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What country is the MAYHEM clock in. :}
Alice in wonderland of course %) %) %)
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On an earlier post (on here) there was a reference to how our life cycles were decided by the sun.
The female of the species (women) operarate 0n the lunar cycle. About a day shorter than the male. This causes all sorts of problems between the Male/Female harmony. Tell me, which "male" hasn't been subjected to irrational abuse on a regular 28 day cycle. I rest my case. BY.
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I know what you mean I really don't understand why we have to put our clocks forward and backward every year {:-{ {:-{ As far as I know we are the only European country to do this.
I just think It's a bit silly now %% %%
Why..
Who's to say that the other European countrys are correct!! Well done England, Scotland & Wales, Keep it up... and while were complaining, it aint half getting on my nerves the amount of news reports who talk about distance in kilometers, last I checked we were still using MPH and miles for speed and distance or should we follow all the other Eropean countrys as well. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
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Why..
Who's to say that the other European countrys are correct!! Well done England, Scotland & Wales, Keep it up... and while were complaining, it aint half getting on my nerves the amount of news reports who talk about distance in kilometers, last I checked we were still using MPH and miles for speed and distance or should we follow all the other Eropean countrys as well. >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-( >>:-(
Oi, we ainta European an we alsa speka da inglis but not av MPH na more, itza a kilo ere now an ya need ta catch up wit da wurld <*< <*< <*< <*<
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Oi, we ainta European an we alsa speka da inglis but not av MPH na more, itza a kilo ere now an ya need ta catch up wit da wurld <*< <*< <*< <*<
Why should we... :}
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Why should we... :}
Nuff said {:-{ {:-{ %) %)
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I just can't see the point of change because of the Main Land Europeans.. Does Australia have a time change ?.
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I just can't see the point of change because of the Main Land Europeans.. Does Australia have a time change ?.
All states, except us, (Queensland), put their clocks forward for daylight saving. O0 O0
It was tried once, here in Queensland when first implemented, but never since, as it was a resounding failure.
The other states, have a crack at us from time to time, due to time differences of the Eastern seaboard states with Queensland, 1 hour difference in summer. See Derek Warner's dig above. Reply 9 {-) {-) {-)
There are standard time zone differences across the country minus two hours between Western Australia, west coast state and East coast states, because of GMT zones from east to west
But we have thick hides and can stand up for ourselves.
Better duck for cover now.
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Sounds like sour grapes to me..... >:-o ....raaartygunner says.... see Derek Warner's dig above
Clearly the man has lost his sences as NSW is always below QLD & was never above %% :o ...but to humour him I suggest he follows the simple FIX
Select your Profile Icon.......select Modify Profile...select Look & Layout Preferences......tick both lower box's....& bingo the last post is displayed at the top
Good luck :-)) ...that will be $10.00 [please] O0 ........Derek
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Sounds like sour grapes to me..... >:-o ....raaartygunner says.... see Derek Warner's dig above
Clearly the man has lost his sences as NSW is always below QLD & was never above %% :o ...but to humour him I suggest he follows the simple FIX
Select your Profile Icon.......select Modify Profile...select Look & Layout Preferences......tick both lower box's....& bingo the last post is displayed at the top
Good luck :-)) ...that will be $10.00 [please] O0 ........Derek
Ya lern sumtin evry day :-)) :-))
The Check iz in da mail O0 O0
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Thank you to all for some not unreasonable comments / arguements.
I've a few points to make:-
1. Unless I'm mistaken - daylight saving was brought in during WWII to assist with food production - WWII ended in 1945 so why do we still need daylight saving now ?
2. As stated earlier - modern farm machinery works "brilliantly" 8) in the dark - just drive around almost any road near a farm at harvesting time to see this in action
3. If the hourly change were abolished we would move nice and smoothly between the seasons and hardly notice any change at all. June 21st would still be the longest day
and Dec 21st would still be the shortest day of the year.
4. Is there any advantage to moving time further forward onto Central European time when we've been functioning quite sufficiently on GMT for centuries ?
Food for thought anyway.
Regards,
Ray.
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In OZ, my understanding is that the reason why clocks are changed is because of Industrial Arbitration and regulations to do with working awards.
Most 'awards' determine when 'overtime' penalty rates will apply which includes, starting early as being 'overtime'. Example 8 hours to be worked between 0800 - 1700hrs Mon - Fri. So if you are told to start one hour earlier, it is overtime, at penalty rates.
It is easier to change clocks than to amend every State and Federal Industrial award and Regulations to accommodate daylight saving.
There is a bit more to it as well, such as time between starting and "breaks".
So it easier to change the clock. No entitlement to overtime etc, no arguments all working same times, same industrial award as before.
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Well said Ray. Nice smooth transition through the seasons. For the many of us unable to switch sleep on/off like a Planet T5 this outdated clock changing involves weeks of major jet-lag body clock disruption. Frankly I am losing an hours sleep each morning, yet am still unable to get to sleep any earlier despite what clock hands nominally point to. Even meal times are out of sync with the bodies natural rhythms.
Of course we could have Summer Time all year round, in which case the Meridian might just as well be moved from Greenwich to Paris as Britain would no longer have any use for it.
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Actually, Ray, I am pretty sure they used Double Summer Time during the war - two hours.
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I spent a whole hour last Saturday night looking for the hour I lost.I never did find it so I went to bed. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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And it started in WW1.
According to wiki, ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time ) all of non Russian Europe along with most of North America and sizeable chunks of the Southern Hemisphere.
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we have it to. finishes next weekend. at least this time round we gain an hour. yahoo a long weekend.
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An old story I heard somewhere - An old Indian asked his white friend to explain daylight saving time to him. Upon hearing said explanation, the old Indian commented " only white man cut 1 foot off blanket and sew on other end to make blanket longer."
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An old story I heard somewhere - An old Indian asked his white friend to explain daylight saving time to him. Upon hearing said explanation, the old Indian commented " only white man cut 1 foot off blanket and sew on other end to make blanket longer."
Wrong analogy altogether. You just move the blanket up or down until it covers either your head or your feet!